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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Is the property grand-fathered from the new water hauling prohibition? Real opportunity as a fixer
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Nothing a bonfire and a backhoe couldn't fix.
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Looks like it comes fully furnished.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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That's hot.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Doesn’t that go for upper middle class in the area?
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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#dirtbaglifestyle
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Was it John and Sarah Connor?
:)
"Life's full of surprises."
Under different circumstances in a universe far far away...
there's been a social collapse. Who's more fit and motivated to eek out an existence with point and purpose and the barest of resources under this collapse: the counterpart to these kids or the counterpoint to the justin beibers and kardashians and 90210 youth?
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jstan
climber
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As I was taking away the last two truck loads from a homeless camp Yucca Valley had asked the Team to clean up, a young fellow walked up saying "We are homeless. Can we stay here tonight?" His girl friend could not have been more than twenty, she had no coat or blanket, little clothing shielding her from the sun and had not even a pack to carry what little she had. When I said I had not the authority to give them permission, he told his friend to pick up her stuff again as they had to move on.
More often than not a discarded mattress lying on the sand is someone's home. It is all they have. We all cling ferociously to life. Those with luck have a little water and the ability to breathe.
The work I and the teams have been doing here has stripped from me the inclination to make judgments.
Children's toys lying in the sand are the hardest.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Well, it IS a pretty big box,...
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Isn't that the Fish headquarters?
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Where is the hidden meth lab?
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cavemonkey
Ice climber
ak
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Is living without running water and electricity a crime now?
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Bruce Morris
Trad climber
Soulsbyville, California
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Lots of places like that scattered in the hills behind Sonora, California. It's just a question of degree I guess.
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enjoimx
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Its against the law to be poor. To live in poverty is to break the law, and risk imprisonment.
It is required that you must exist just above the true poverty level here in California.
Please don't be poor. It is distasteful.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Did The Lincolns have 40 cats free roaming that lean-to?
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Compared to what I saw in India, these conditions were not so awful. A neighbor said that they were living in very spartan, frugal conditions, but that the children were not abused.
I saw a family with a samosa stand in India live right next to a busy street, constant truck and car exhaust, and a much smaller living space than this. From a health standpoint, being slightly underfed is better than being over fed.
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WBraun
climber
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Yeah, most of these people here have never been anywhere except on their computers.
Americans are so spoiled rotten.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Here is an excerpt from the LA TIMES, What neighbors and friends have said:
Friends of the family say their situation is not at all one of criminal abuse, but of extreme poverty.They describe highly intelligent children who were involved in soccer and scouts and who were cared for as best they could by struggling parents."The Sheriff's Department is punishing those kids for being homeless," said Leanna Munroe, who has known the family for nine years.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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jstan. Thank you for you insight into reality for many people who live in the high desert communities. We know this family quite well. They played soccer with our kids and went to dance and gymnastics lessons with our kids. No, they don't need 30 cats and yes;..they should have asked for help. It's a struggle being poor. As a school teacher in the high desert for 30+ years, I see the struggles of many poor families. It's heart breaking, real, and very very common. They needed to ask for help, and get rid of the cats. Hope the family gets reunited and gets the help they need. This is a tough situation. My heart goes out to this family, and all the families in this basin that are stuggling to survive with kids and no money.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there, say, todd... thank you for a very heart-felt post...
will keep them in prayers...
thanks for sharing your insight, too, with us all...
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10b4me
Social climber
Janie's
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apparently they owned the land, but could not afford to build a house.
Some people are sticking up for them. However, why didn't their friends offer to help them out?
the thing that always comes in to play is if there are kids.
This is a tough situation.
yes it is, and that's why there are always two sides to every story.
Thanks, Todd, for your comment.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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I can relate to the poverty part. My family lived for 3 years with no electricity or running water. Water was a creek 50 yards from the house. We ate what we raised. As a family of five we started out with an eighteen foot camp trailer and over the years we built our house out of scrap lumber. I remember when we finally got electricity. At a different house I remember coming home to start the kitchen fire and not being able to find the damper, well that was because it was an electric stove, who would would have thunk it. Just turn the knob. I guess one of our advantages was we lived out in the woods so not to many folks saw what was going on.
I think part of the problem is the vast majority of the population have absolutely no idea what poverty is like and what all goes with it. It is difficult to come up with a viable solution when you do not truly understand the problem. It has taken me decades of hindsight to begin to understand.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, todd... or anyone...
say, i am curious... a friend of mine, who was helping someone with their kids, said she was doing it, because:
he had just lost his home, and was already divorced, and, could not afford to
put advance payment and rent a place... and, since he could not do this,
SHE SAID (and i do not know if this is true) that,
if he could not show proof of a place to live, that they would take
his kids away to foster care...
is that true???
if, so, it makes me wonder if the family did not want
to get help, for fear that the kids would be taken away???
COULD that have happened???
though, now, of course, it has happened... :(
well, i was just curious... it is a very scary thing when
someone is in fear of their kids being taken away...
:(
hope and prayers, that will turn, somehow,
into good, for this family...
:(
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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If you do not have a place to live they will take the kids. Sometimes they will help the family get started. Sometimes is the key word. Protective services can be a good thing, but families do not like being taken apart. Sometimes what you have is better than what might be. It is all a crap shoot. This county for all its wealth does poorly with the poor.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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This county for all its wealth does poorly with the poor.
An understatement . . . but does not the Donald love the poor? He sure is trying to make more of them.
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