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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 31, 2018 - 04:24pm PT
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Strava released their data to the public and there's a cool interactive map overlaying all of the tracks. Head to the "empty" zones for the FAs!
http://labs.strava.com/heatmap/#15.85/-118.46429/36.79956/gray/all
Cool things I've found so far:
-Popular paragliding spot off of highway 180 shows a giant web of loops.
-You can see a ton of ski lines going from Alta Peak down to the Pear Lake Ski hut in Sequoia.
-At least one person went to Palmer Cave :)
-Nobody goes to Tehipite
It's actually a global map so you can kill a lot of time playing with it.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2018 - 04:26pm PT
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PS: Setting opacity to 100% on the left makes it easier to see tracks
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 31, 2018 - 04:39pm PT
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Now that's cool ... er hot...
Looking on an iPad gotta get on my pc to navigate mo bettah
OK, getting the hang of it
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Wayno
Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
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Jan 31, 2018 - 05:05pm PT
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The Satellite overlay is more than 7 years old in some places.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2018 - 05:15pm PT
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Ya and it's hard to see the single tracks with satellite, I've just been using the shaded relief.
Hey, someone peeked into the Gorge of Despair
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Jan 31, 2018 - 06:17pm PT
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whew! my haunts are almost devoid of activity.
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Scole
Trad climber
Zapopan
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Not a lot of traffic in Center Basin
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 1, 2018 - 01:32pm PT
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whew! my haunts are almost devoid of activity.
Yup, I get a little bit of joy from finding places I've been with no lines :)
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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I hope it doesn't show my lines travelled on paved roads when the Park was closed for the year......
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Who has Strava on all the time they're out? That's what I want to know....holy f*#k people. Did I go hike and climb today? Not sure I didn't Strava it?! I think I'm turning into an old man....
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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LOVED THIS MAP. THANKs!!!!
It showed me where some of the social trails go that aren’t on any trail maps and I’ve been wondering how far they go and what link ups to other trails in the area. This map made it quite clear. A bunch of new trails to check out.
Brian brings up a good point. I do usually wear a Garmin tracker when I’m biking or hiking and I think it links to Strava when I up load ( actually it does it automatically). As for climbing. I don’t wear it then because it’s kind of bulky but I don’t climb much anymore. It appears enough folks are making the Strava connect that at least trail areas in my fav spots are showing up...I really like that the unmapped trails are showing, which I guess means they’re not unmapped anymore. I guess local knowledge won’t be as important.
I especially love seeing the perfect red ovals that are school tracks. So neat.
Then again this is probably the same type of info that revealed a bunch of top secret military stuff. Oops.
Susan
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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This is unreal! I'm a map addict. Thanks so much for sharing this link, limpingcrab.
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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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In my part of the world Strava shows the tiny reserve villages in the middle of the Great Bear Rainforest
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RjBlake
climber
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I've been playing with the Strava heatmap for years, it is great to see it getting wider attention as it is a very neat dataset, especially since the 2017 update.
You can, with some finagling, access the heatmap in Caltopo or Google Earth which allows for (in my opinion) some very cool visualizations. You can select different heatmaps based on user indicated activity type (All Activities, Cycling, Running, Snowsports and Watersports), which allows one to see differences in winter vs. summer routes (handy for figuring out what trails might be packed out when you're trying to get to ice climbs for instance, or figuring out where certain backcountry ski lines go).
I'm not very familiar with the Sierra so my examples are from further afield. As others have pointed out, this is not a comprehensive view of recreation activity, but rather of users with GPS devices inclined to track and upload activities.
Mount Washington (NH) Showing summer hiking activity (orange) and winter skiing activity (blue).
The Grand Canyon - hiking activities.
Half Dome
El Cap
New York City (Central Park)
Rainier
Mount Whitney
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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I’m a map addict also but did not know of this until the OP.
It’s awesome! Just like bad enemies, being able to find top secret military base stuff, I have been able to find a bunch of the “secret, locals only” trails around here.
One particular local trail, there was considerable lore about a secret “left hand fork”. Yes! Now I know where it goes. There’s also another top secret trail to some Indian Art that is best viewed on Summer Soltice. You could buy the directions for a couple bucks on the internet.
VOILA! I can find it now!
So much fun....so many new unknown trails!
Susan
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2018 - 03:13pm PT
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That's so cool, Rj!
You bring up something I was wondering about, Susan. How many people used a GPS to track their route to a "secret" fishing spot or something only to have it now available to everyone? I'd be kinda annoyed to see some of my approach routes to fishing spots pop up on the internet. On the other hand, I'm happy to see other peoples' routes on my computer screen :)
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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You can, with some finagling, access the heatmap in Caltopo or Google Earth I use both those a lot, but unfortunately I'm not the most adept at maximizing their potential. Mind sharing your finagling for either or both? (All things being equal I'd prefer Google Earth, because Caltopo and Strava are fairly easy to just toggle between tabs.)
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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The maps show only where people with "strava" hike in the Sierra. What percentage of the hiking population have them? Possibly those who like peace and quiet, and know places to find them, avoid the things.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2018 - 04:23pm PT
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The maps show only where people with "strava" hike in the Sierra. What percentage of the hiking population have them? Possibly those who like peace and quiet, and know places to find them, avoid the things.
Very true, it's definitely not a complete log of all users. But, it's worth noting that Strava can link with phone apps, Garmin GPS units and a bunch of other stuff so the maps do include over a billion tracks.
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RjBlake
climber
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I use both those a lot, but unfortunately I'm not the most adept at maximizing their potential. Mind sharing your finagling for either or both? (All things being equal I'd prefer Google Earth, because Caltopo and Strava are fairly easy to just toggle between tabs.)
So the way I know how to do it requires a $20 annual Caltopo subscription, and Google Earth Desktop Pro (which is now free). The Google Earth display is via the Caltopo Superoverlay feature (only available with the paid subscription).
If that sounds reasonable, I've written some directions into a Google Slideshow. Forgive me for not re-typing them out here. Google Slide Link
Good Luck.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Interesting. There's a perfect circle out in the middle of the Salt Flats south of I-80. In the middle of an Air Force Test Range.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2018 - 08:06pm PT
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I think Strava is global, and I bet many of those billion+ tracks were just people on their morning runs trying to see how far/fast they went. I've just been looking at the Sierra, hence the thread title.
I had a feeling you would not be a fan of this. I'm a bit torn between having fun with this data and agreeing that it's invasive and weird to make it all public.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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RjBlake, thanks. I've had a subscription to Caltopo for a couple years now because $20 a year seems like the least I can do for how much I use just the basic format. It'll be good to start figuring out some of the proper benefits of it. And you're forgiven. I'll check out that link to the instructions when I'm on my real computer.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Feb 12, 2018 - 08:43pm PT
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I finally added the Strava layer to my Caltopo account. It's great. Thanks again for putting those instructions up RjBlake.
Slight fix: on slide 5 the url should be "http" not "https".
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YosemiteSteve
Trad climber
CA
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Feb 28, 2018 - 09:44am PT
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Hey, Limpingcrab, are those your tracks all around Windy Cliffs and the north side of the Kings River? I've poked around that marble a bit, but never extensively.
PS: Cool you went to Palmer recently...no one does that anymore. I'm surprised you found it!
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 28, 2018 - 09:54am PT
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What's 'strava'?
Yeah, I know: RTFM!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 28, 2018 - 12:22pm PT
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Y’all do know that Strava has a contract with the Pentagon, right?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Feb 28, 2018 - 01:13pm PT
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Strava? Is that like the East German secret police or something?
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DebLee
Trad climber
Around, About
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Mar 15, 2018 - 03:47am PT
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They took away a LOT of information..... can't find those secret trails anymore?????
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2018 - 09:58am PT
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Hey, Limpingcrab, are those your tracks all around Windy Cliffs and the north side of the Kings River? I've poked around that marble a bit, but never extensively.
PS: Cool you went to Palmer recently...no one does that anymore. I'm surprised you found it!
That's weird, I can't get the map to work at full resolution anymore so I don't see those tracks? I don't use Strava so they're not mine. I've explored around there some but not as much as I want. The first cave I ever went in was Pirates Cave on the north side of the Kings downstream from Boyden. The big wall with the white spot on Windy Cliffs is on my climbing to-do list!
Palmer was tricky. It's been 10 years since my last visit and the 6 inches of snow on the ground made following the old trail tough, and the trail is way more overgrown than I remember. That was my 7th trip up that trail we so still made it without much backtracking, it just took longer than it should have.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2018 - 01:32pm PT
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Ha! Ya, I don't think the "activity" filter" is very reliable.
I figured out why I lost tracks on the map. There's now an option for users to keep their tracks private. Not surprisingly, the tracks to many caves and fishing holes are gone.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Apr 15, 2018 - 09:59pm PT
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With the "only registered users can see street level detail" update I've lost the ability to overlay this on Caltopo, even now that I've registered. Anyone have a patch/updated instructions?
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Apr 16, 2018 - 03:08am PT
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I think is decades-old military technology that was used to blast places like the Ho Chi Min Trail
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Trump
climber
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Apr 16, 2018 - 04:09pm PT
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What do you mean other people’s trails? I own this world!
It’s not like the spy satellites can see me walking out of my front door or anything. Oh wait, it is like that. Good thing we’re social animals.
I’m gonna keep my thoughts on this subject private. D’oh! I guess I’d better read cmac’s privacy policy for the first time.
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