Shithole Countries

If I lived in Norway I wouldn't want to come here.

Veered away from the political stuff, but WTF? If I lived in Norway I wouldn't want to come here.

If you still support this as#@&%e you are a racist.

if he died tomorrow I'd throw a party.

if you support him and died tomorrow I'd throw a party.

there's no room for you POSs on this planet.

Fu ck OFF. And Die.

Malemute -- "Dear USA, Canada knows what it is like to live next to a shithole country."

Mr. Trump probably didn't care that the ancestors of most Norwegian-Americans, just like his ancestors, came to the USA because they were poor - although that has long changed.

Jstan: has our transition to third world happened because the third world came to us?

Don't we all only have ourselves to blame for that?

is there a political party, domestically, that represents my best interests?

Also I think we are going to have a lot more choice and variety of domestic manufacturing in the coming years,

I’ll be at the party Nature and bring some good tequila from Mexico.

Crikey, the dude is the president and he shouldn't be talking about Alabama and Texas that way.

"What are you talking about? America is not going to be destroyed."

"Never?
Rome was destroyed, Greece was destroyed, Persia was destroyed, Spain was destroyed.

All great countries are destroyed, why not yours? How much longer do you think your own country will last? Forever?"

The real question here is: How will this affect climbing?

U.S. Ambassador to Panama John Feeley, a career diplomat and former Marine Corps helicopter pilot, has resigned, telling the State Department he no longer feels able to serve President Donald Trump.

Also I think we are going to have a lot more choice and variety of domestic manufacturing in the coming years, due to changes in power production, proto-typing and robot assisted manufacturing

...we have to find ways to meet in the middle and we have to be willing to actually move that way ourselves.

Who cares what a troll thinks?

our transition to the third world, or actually second world status, began in the mid 1970s with the dismantling of the New Deal and the assault on labor.

It wasn't secret, you read about it in the business pages. Their idea was that workers made too much money if they could afford to send kids to school and buy houses. No, really, as unbelievable as that is. It really intensified under Reagan. The New Democrats were just as supportive. Bill Clinton fought tooth and nail for NAFTA, but when some of the old school Dems tried to pass the anti-scab Striker Replacement Bill, Clinton was off in Europe, couldn't, or wouldn't, be bothered to help there.

I swallowed my pride and joined this year. I'm now (shudder) a registered Democrat. Ugh.

I think Trump's main problem is his words and Tweets utterly lack the nuance a skilled politician possesses.

If this isn't a sh#t hole, I don't know what is:

Gary, would unions be faring any better under Hillary Clinton?

Right now he's grabbing the low hanging fruit and trying to make good on campaign promises. He's a changeling and may become more moderate. We shall see.

As usual the media and liberal critics of Trump have it all wrong.

------ I will tackle Trump’s “offensive words” about Haiti and African nations. There are reports that Trump called those countries by a crude name. If he did, he certainly could have chosen his words more carefully. But…who cares? If he said it, he told the raw truth. As usual, he was right on the money. Trump said exactly (although perhaps crudely) what 63 million American taxpayers who voted for him were thinking.

When you have hooked up with a random climbing partner with the intent to do 10 pitches, and it becomes glaringly obvious before they even tie in that they are not only arrogantly in denial of their lack of capability to do the job, but probably going to get you killed if you continue - do you wait until midway through the third pitch and STILL HOPE and wonder if he somehow becomes a competent and safe leader?

no natural resources...

Is that language on the Statue of Liberty:

Written by France - another country getting taken over by immigrants from shithole countries.

I lived in NYC, upper west side, in the 1970's...

Not sure what people are so upset about. Seems as if he described this country pretty well.

Jody wrote: Not sure what people are so upset about. Seems as if he described this country pretty well.

The putative "leader of the free world" should be leading, not channeling the most base emotions with vile comments.

We have an interest in making Haiti a much better place than it is, making the world a better place than it is, and to have those people realize the ideals that this country was founded on. When the POTUS looks down in disgust at those other nations he doesn't raise the bar, he doesn't stoke the hope, he doesn't encourage those other peoples to rise to the challenge of bettering themselves and their situation and their nation.

When the POTUS wonders why we would let people from countries he describes as "shitholes" come to our country he condemns them, how could they interpret it any other way. He has said they are not worth consideration.

That is not what the "leader of the free world" would do if he had any idea of leadership.

Didn't Trump basically call the the Whitehouse a shithole when he moved in?

Yes, in Norway you are to a large extent free. You are free because you pay tax to secure welfare, healthcare, childcare. In America 90% of people will end up as the slaves of vulgar capitalists like Mr Trump. And the 9% in the upper middle class will be so afraid to dump down into the 90% miserable that they will support every restriction on tax pay proposed by the 1% vulgar capitalists, be it the Trumps or the Clintons of the country...

Trump supporters are racist, ignorant, and VERY un-American...

No if's, and's, or orange fat fuk doubt's about it...

A Norwegian television station sent a reporter out to do man on the street interviews, looking for anyone willing to emigrate to the United States. The reporter could not find anyone. The Norwegians interviewed, however, were notably polite in declining the invitation.

it's a shame when you need to find some label to characterize a viewpoint that you don't agree with, but would like to discredit wholesale by attaching some pejorative name to it

If by socialist you believe that the Federal Government should not engage in activities that require support from tax generated revenue, then where do you draw the line?

Cragman, remember it was a bunch of 'liberals' who set up the guillotine
in the Place de la Bastille.

You would prefer to have no regulating laws at all and have everyone fend for themselves?

FYI, the Inquisition was just a way for the Catholic Church to get their
hands on the Spanish Jews' money.

The Social Contract theory of the 18th century, upon which our Declaration of Independence and constitution are based

Conservatives have forgotten our roots and are pushing us towards anarchy, i.e., an unregulated society

Anarchy is law and freedom without force.
Despotism is law and force without freedom.
Barbarism force without freedom and law.
Republicanism is force with freedom and law.

Immanuel Kant,
Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View

Ballo conveniently forgets about how the bills get paid and where the money comes from.

I’m still friends with some people who voted for Trump, but I tend to avoid people who used to be friendly and fun but are now sour and bitter.

The Declaration of Independence was based on the liberal British ideas about individual rights being ordained by a universal authority higher than any King or state.

I'm not an academic, actually, I work at a national laboratory for the past 20 odd years (I had taught at UMass/Amherst in the 1990's).

My "arguments" aren't political, on these posts, they are pointing out that if you actually had any conviction to your opinions you wouldn't hide behind the anonymity of an avatar.

And many people that read and post to SuperTopoForum have read my trip reports, and more, they know who I am and have not trouble coming up to me when they see me climbing somewhere. When I post I think about that. That's a big difference (and not a political one, I've met Jody, and Cosmic and Reilly in climber settings), they would stand up for what they post here, whether or not I agree is quite beside the point.

My criticism of the current administration: it is one thing to shoot your mouth off, quite another to come up with some policy that effects the proposed changes, I don't see that the recent comments that lend to the title of this thread have anything backing them up, in terms of leading the world at least, and even in this country they are horrendously counterproductive.

I am happy to discuss any of my posts with any of the climbers I'd run into at any of the climbing locations I frequent. Apparently I am recognizable enough that people introduce themselves to me "out of the blue."

Until last year, I'd never considered politics a condition of friendship or partnership on a rope. Like music or film, boycotting liberals in the outdoor world leaves one with fewer options. But post-2016, I have cut off at least a couple folks who, frankly, became so unhinged about the election that I no longer consider them stable.

If you want some mountains that have snow,ice and glaciers with crevasses that don't pretend to be snow slopes, come to Canada, the richest shithole in North America.

PNW excluded from this rant because those Washington State climbers are friendly and know their way around an ice axe and pair of crampons.

All you have to do is make it past the California produce checkpoint without catching a 15 year prison sentence for a half eaten carrot.

It should be clarified that the person who wrote that post about having a party if DT or someone who supports him died, DID NOT WRITE that they wished anyone would die.

No, JoeM, our transition to the third world, or actually second world status, began in the mid 1970s with the dismantling of the New Deal and the assault on labor.

It should be clarified that the person who wrote that post about having a party if DT or someone who supports him died, DID NOT WRITE that they wished anyone would die.

Yep, blah, blah, blah. Kettle, meet pot.

If you still support this as#@&%e you are a racist.

if he died tomorrow I'd throw a party.

if you support him and died tomorrow I'd throw a party.

there's no room for you POSs on this planet.

Fu ck OFF. And Die.

An orange fat fuk...

with little hands...

Trump supporters are IDIOTS!!!...

One and ALL!!!...

FACT!!!...

Trump supporters are racist, ignorant, and VERY un-American...

No if's, and's, or orange fat fuk doubt's about it...

Ahhh, JoeM, another racist pig. We need more like you to leave.

I am expecting Images of the Statue Of Liberty destroyed. Blown to bits ; exploded,
in photo shop or graphics, cartoons even, just hope not for realz

The trash "conservatives" that post here are simply racists ecstatic that the ass clown in the white house will give voice to what they have always wanted to say publicly....despite the forefathers of Reilly et al coming from sh#t holes themselves.

There is no defending this racist c*#ks@cker and if you are then your no different than him.

What has no place in our society is Trump supporting nut lickers on their knees eating corn from Putin's SH!THOLE...
"Deplorables" is a gross understatement...

the difference, and you don't seem to get it, is that I am a person, and you are an anonymous poster. It could hardly be a personal attack on you, I have no idea that you are a person, it is an attack on your anonymous avatar

Thanks, John M, for that much-needed rebuke. And thank you too for reining in the folks responsible for the quotes below--all made here by assorted liberals in this thread.

But just consider the guy who posted the mirror might be on to something.