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FBrewster
Trad climber
Foresta, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 31, 2017 - 04:06pm PT
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Yet another major corporation will be entering YNP this summer with a location in the Yosemite Lodge.
This continues a growing trend where corporations are gaining undue influence in some of our most sacred lands. In Yosemite, recent years have seen corporations barrel roll into YNP and the National Park Service. The Yosemite Valley Visitor Center now showcases televisions blaring recent corporate sponsorships, for companies such as REI, Subaru and even Budweiser. A small market just outside of the park but still on federal land that was run by a local family lost its contract to a corporation from Florida in 2015 ( uniondemocrat.com/localnews…). And there is also a very public dispute going on in court about who owns the names to historic buildings, camp grounds, and hotels ( nytimes.com/2016/03/02/us/b…) some of which were built by tax payer money in the early 1900’s. This is all amidst chronic and largely unaddressed skyrocketing visitation, which has been met with the dozing of small meadows and trees in Yosemite Valley to pave the way for more parking lots.
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aspendougy
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 31, 2017 - 04:15pm PT
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With all the issues facing Yosemite, giving a place to Starbucks is the least concern, in my opinion. I was always hoping the Village Store franchise would be given to Trader Joes. I hope they do get the Ahwahnee, etc. names back.
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unlocked gait
Gym climber
the range
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Dec 31, 2017 - 04:31pm PT
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yosemite's got nowt friction
just last morn i was shaggin my wife
and i lewked at her and
said,''i canae feel anything, like''
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Dec 31, 2017 - 05:25pm PT
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You must have been shaggin on the 12 step urethaned plywood...?
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unlocked gait
Gym climber
the range
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Dec 31, 2017 - 05:32pm PT
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aye the fumes they wairnt proper,
migh gear maight 'ave malfunctioned,
her kit sports plenty o friction,
unlike those greasy valley slabs
and overtly smooth cracks,
huh. feckin starrybuck
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 31, 2017 - 05:33pm PT
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They had "Peets Coffee" here for years.
Now they are dropping "Peets" and going to Starbucks" BFD.
Same sh!t different companies.
Where was outrage back then ... NONE!
Same sh!t from drooling forum whinny runny nose losers bitching about every little bugger on their noses .....
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Dec 31, 2017 - 06:20pm PT
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I'd like to see a Dunkin' Donuts!
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Dec 31, 2017 - 09:26pm PT
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DMT, "fagged" out? Really? I'll edit my post if you edit yours.
Back to coffee, Peet's or Starbucks: a reason to wait for the sun to warm things up. Early starts are so uncivilized.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 31, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
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Remember when they Roasted their own coffee in the Ahwhannee? How far it's fallen.. Starbucks.! And the hotel has lost its name as well.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Dec 31, 2017 - 09:51pm PT
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McClintock! Sorry to say a petition will have no effect on him. That carpet bagging sonofabitch
sonofabitch is putting it mildly.
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Byran
climber
Half Dome Village
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Dec 31, 2017 - 11:24pm PT
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I can't think of any two things which are so completely irrelevant to my enjoyment of Yosemite than the names of the hotels and the brand of coffee they serve...
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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The names "Ahwahnee", "Curry" and " Wawona" will never stop being relevant to me. What's next "Yosemite National Park" becomes "Walmart National Park"?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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How can you possibly refer to Yosemite Valley as sacred lands? It’s been despoiled for decades.....better coffee than the current fare won’t hurt.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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I will miss the free Pete's coffee on the second floor of the the big hotel.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Don't know that a Starbucks is something to be petitioning about. Like the duck said: where was the outrage when Peets moved in? There's not much difference between Peets and Starbucks. One thing corporations do really well is to provide adequate volumes of overpriced coffee to the masses.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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justthemaid: . . . to provide adequate volumes of overpriced coffee to the masses.
And we think that the price of gasoline is sometimes too high? Coffee goes for about $15 a gallon at most coffee shops.
I remember coffee being made in the field in Vietnam. One big freaking pot of water and a 5 pound can of coffee grounds poured in. Boil it, then turn it back to simmer, and viola . . . coffee. Pick up your canteen cup, and ladle up a half of quart. Guaranteed to start your aching heart.
I’m with Roger. It’s nice to have a civilized start to the day.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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FBrewster
FBrewster, with that for a handle I expect you can make a damn good pot of coffee.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Obviously your not a golfer. There is a world of difference between Peets and Starbucks. One of them actually uses coffee.
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gruzzy
Social climber
socal
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Is it a full fledged Starbucks or just the coffee, like they give away on planes?
If it was topless, now there would be some outrage
I guess if you sit back and actually think before acting, you do see that its always been about money
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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My oh my...people were upset about a Dollar Store in JT and now a Starbucks in Yosemite. In neither case did they detracr from what already was there. If someone wanted to put an adult store in the Louvre you might have a legitimate complaint.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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I want a Starbucks back in Baker on the way to Vegas. I've biked through a few times on desert tours, and it was great to get a quick fix. Closed a few years ago, which really surprised me because of the massive traffic on I 15. NBD for a little outlet in the Lodge. Valley blows anyway. It's all choss.
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i-b-goB
Social climber
Wise Acres
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Is it a full fledged Starbucks or just the coffee, like they give away on planes?
It will be StarBucks in the 25th century, automated by Kwiki ...
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Ω
climber
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what about the yi / nature bridge? they got 33 acres of yosemite land to develop and no one screams about that? they are no different than the concession, they sell services, lodging, food, etc and the ceo's are laughing all the way to the bank
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Ω
climber
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the addition of Starbucks is part of Aramark’s renovation project of the food court that will be renamed Basecamp Eatery. The new space is expected to open this spring and will offer sandwiches, salads, soups and specialty coffee drinks.
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Axis
climber
San Jose, CA
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tb.in.sf
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Got a climbing association with Peets - remember first trip eons ago with an old yose vet, he pulls a small bag of Major Dickensons out at 5AM. It was like religion back then and Starbucks is garbage in contrast. But yes both are big coffee these days - Peet's got bought out a few years ago by some german company.
Anyway, the food has mostly sucked forever in the valley, but at least it's expensive.
Bring back the pasta loft.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Royal Arches is to be renamed the McDonald's Golden Arches.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Why won't Aramark dump OE800, and make Pilsner Urquell the cheapest liquid in the Valley? If they're going upscale with coffee, they should go upscale across the entire beverage spectrum.
And, whatever happened to the Chongo Smorgasbord of cream cheese, jelly, Grey Poupon and other condiment packs at Degnan's Deli? I guess all that "free food" came at the cost of Yosemite's trademarked names.
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sierracanon
Mountain climber
Sacramento, CA
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Jan 11, 2018 - 10:32pm PT
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Axis
climber
San Jose, CA
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Jan 14, 2018 - 11:24am PT
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I poked around the Village and it's not going to be a big deal. In Degnan's now they have 2 large coffee pots with PEETS on them. The word I picked up is that in the "Base Camp Eatery," it will be similar. But we shall see.
Hersey is a multinational company and the park sells them.
BTY, the new remodel of Degnan's is great. 2 free wifi areas and the Loft is redone into a nice environment.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 28, 2018 - 03:21pm PT
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I was kidding about the pea milk.
//I see it in a grocery I shop but I'm a cow's milk 1/2 and 1/s feller all the way.//
I'm just testing google to see if I start getting pea milk ads.
NOBODY would milk a pea. They have no teats.[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Mar 20, 2018 - 08:48am PT
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Cant believe someone didn't want to put a real brewery or restaraunt there
There's an Applebee's at Fisherman's Wharf, despite San Francisco being one of the top culinary destinations in the U.S. if not the world.
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