Climbing Vocabulary: Define "Scum" as a climbing move.

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Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 17, 2017 - 10:48pm PT
Scum - verb, to scum. The act of using a body part in a relatively insecure way especially in wider cracks where the sides are parallel and not amenable to other trickery of the wide crack variety. See also, offwidth. Examples include 'body scum' 'foot scum' or 'elbow scum'
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Dec 17, 2017 - 10:55pm PT
The relationship was impinging on my climbing time, so I scummed my way until she dumped me.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2017 - 10:58pm PT
That's a new one. heh
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Dec 17, 2017 - 11:04pm PT
to gain friction or purchase by application of body to rock in a manner not recommended by manufacturer. example: although painful, the taint scum is vital to free the hands for advancement on the Diagonal.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Dec 17, 2017 - 11:32pm PT
Pressure knee or whatever against rock while you change placement of either foot on hold or crack?
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2017 - 11:38pm PT
transitional move in all cases? Makes sense. if it were secure one would yard on it. So by necessity it needs to be tenuous, and as a direct result only temporary.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 17, 2017 - 11:38pm PT
bravecowboy, that's a new one too. lol
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:39am PT
Lean on with various body parts.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:47am PT
Actually never heard it used for crack climbing.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:49am PT
Used often where Wyde meets stem. See also "dab"
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:52am PT
A move made by climbers in which an alternate part of the body is used in a way to assist in an otherwise ungraceful attempt to achieve some goal.

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kaholatingtong

Trad climber
The real McCoy from the inside of my van.
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:10am PT
A transitional/intermediate move for balance or friction achieved with any body part?
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:13am PT
i'd stand in line to watch "Scum" as a climbing movie
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:14am PT
Think of how often, when jamming in a corner, you scum your shoulder against the wall. Then look at the wear on the incredible hand crack, or virtually any crack in a corner in Indian creek.
skywalker1

Trad climber
co
Dec 18, 2017 - 08:46am PT
I wonder if when you "belly flop" or "walrus" a top out is that "scumming"?

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NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:16am PT
Sky walker, I usually call that move a “beached whale”. I think to get the Walrus label, you have to use your teeth to gain the ledge.
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
The real McCoy from the inside of my van.
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:20am PT
I generally try not to belly flop from my top outs.
Oplopanax

Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
Dec 18, 2017 - 09:59am PT
The beached whale is in fact a belly scum
mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Dec 18, 2017 - 10:10am PT

Think of how often, when jamming in a corner, you scum your shoulder against the wall. Then look at the wear on the incredible hand crack, or virtually any crack in a corner in Indian creek.

This actually started as a discussion between Munge and me on Mudn'Crud.

Munge, Jaybro's definition (above) is just what I was talking about (substitute butt-cheek for shoulder though). A "scootch" isn't the same thing.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2017 - 12:05pm PT
a flag frictions a static placement so it doesn't slide down. So I'm not sure on that one.

healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 18, 2017 - 12:14pm PT
Southern root-digging top-outs down in the hollows are a form of agile scummery.

It's where you top out by pulling on your last hold on rock and reaching up and over as far as possible to sink the fingers of one hand deep in the roots of the forest floor then cutting with the other hand to do the same with it. You then brutally drag yourself up and over the forest floor a handful at a time. After standing up the your entire upper body and pants should be green if executed correctly. Best done while free soloing for full effect.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Dec 18, 2017 - 12:44pm PT
I always figured that scumming was climbing at the Gunks during a big caterpillar year...
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Dec 18, 2017 - 01:39pm PT
Who among us haven't scummed. I've dumpster dived, riddled trash cans to eat and been scared shirtless on slabs. Oh, and trolled the Lodge cafeteria.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 18, 2017 - 01:56pm PT
Scumbagged: REALLY f'n sandbagged this time!

DEEP DOO-DOO!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Dec 18, 2017 - 05:06pm PT
And when it fails.....and the pro gets zipped......this is the origin of the expression......"the scum of the earth."

Beer out the nose on reading that one!

Awesome.
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Dec 18, 2017 - 05:51pm PT
"That's not scum. It's Rebel Scum!" :-)
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2017 - 06:18pm PT
"you'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy!"

...than in...

7 Eleven in JT?





Mos Eisley?






Hidden Valley Campground?





All of the above?

mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Dec 18, 2017 - 06:51pm PT

"You'll never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy!"

One of the best quotes in movie history.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Dec 18, 2017 - 06:52pm PT

Climbing Vocabulary: Define "Scum" as a climbing move.

To abandon any standards in choosing climbing partners.

See: camp 4 bulletin board.
Rollover

climber
Gross Vegas
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:01pm PT
pb

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Dec 18, 2017 - 07:12pm PT
see: serial bailer
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2017 - 12:38am PT

Scum = euphemism for Mildew Encrusted Shower Stall, which btw, is a route name.



This thread seems to have a few notions consolidating so far:

1. reprehensible person

2. highly prized movement of a general type

3. highly prized movement of a specific kind

4. some kind of funk growing in their man-bun or in their #vanlife

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Dec 22, 2017 - 01:04am PT
"Succumb to the scum."
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Dec 22, 2017 - 06:30am PT
I'll give it a shot- similar to Skywalkers thought:

An in-ellegant yet effectual use of any body part to achieve a climbing move?

Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 22, 2017 - 06:32am PT
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That frowning face, it used to be clean and dry,
nice ,safe-sh. A fire burned over the top,
changing, baking the soil.
Stoping the ability of the soil to absorb water. Now you can get a shoulder scum in the corner, it turns into a back step one palm down butt Scum against the off set wall that is on the left side
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Full body Scum from underneath, where its cramped, to where J Gruenberg is,
and then a reach after the gear to stand-up, a pasted; arms wide move, One of those where you're kissing the rock all the way. On The 1st ascent team?
Welcome To Gunks Solid old school, .10 dont fall
1 of the all time classics







Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Dec 22, 2017 - 06:53am PT
I think we used to call it "thrutching."

BAd
pb

Sport climber
Sonora Ca
Dec 22, 2017 - 07:37am PT
no it's not thrutching
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Dec 22, 2017 - 11:12am PT
scum is a fun word.
it's the scruffy cousin of smear,
not so fussy or constrained by uppity footwear.

no particular application of scum is as showy as the crescendo of sweaty
peristalsis adapted from the order of cetacea known as "beached whale technique."

when the crowd of observers, often joined by freshly released spotters, gather to witness a highball thrutching
set to take place where the steep rolls off to summit slab, there arrives a time for special execution, one performed
to the accompaniment of unanimous gasp, as feet cut loose, lower limbs breach the skyline blue
and shiny ankles live to gleam on ... like the perfect peduncles they were born to be
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2017 - 03:43pm PT
uh, er, ahem,... your peduncle is showing.

Lively description!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 22, 2017 - 03:55pm PT
Scum your way up Green Dragon




Slick at the start,9 foot run out after some ledgey 5.8, then good gear, solid holds out the horizontal roof.
The start of the business to a heel hook then a stand up into an over hanging v notch, with no gear at the top of the dihedral
to a bramble guarded ledge, covered in sapling north-east hard woods, in dripping wet dirt
Srub Oak, Rhododendron and some rouge Holly. with a 3 foot thick gauntlet of barbs and tangleg vines some poison ivy.
Dripping wet.
The only way through is to tunnel, trench, Scum between the rock and thorny birdsnest like edge.


Then theres Ero-scum,
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Lennox

climber
in the land of the blind
Dec 22, 2017 - 04:05pm PT
After falling out of the flaring off-width squeeze at the top of the Bismarck when all my scumming was to no avail, and my vocabulary did not extend to “inverted arm-bar” which my partner was yelling encouragingly, I proceeded with a most graceful lie-back transitioning to a thrutching belly-waddle mantle that would’ve made a mama elephant seal proud.
Footloose

Trad climber
Lake Tahoe
Dec 22, 2017 - 07:38pm PT
Jebus, you remember I Be Jammin?

That is where I learned the value of body scumming.
First time up IBJ I had no consciousness of body scumming
and I thought, Are you kidding me, this is so sandbagged!

First time, I tried climbing it like other dihedrals: red dihedral, hospital
corner, crescent arch, mithral are a few that come to mind.

What a difference body scumming can make! I just wish I could
use it more often on more routes!!


In fact, right now, I can't think of any route that lends
it so well to left-side body scumming as IBJ.
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Dec 22, 2017 - 10:19pm PT
"smear" is a precise foot move on the way up. "Scum"is an imprecise foot move as you are falling down. Sometimes "scumming" arrests the fall. "Scum"describes most moves on choss..heh heh
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