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susan peplow
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 8, 2007 - 01:42pm PT
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Official invitation to join in!
If you feel the need to debate the challenge, rules, etc. please refer to http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?topic_id=302249
If you would like to join this challenge I must receive a direct email for confirmation.
Weigh in Tuesday, Jan 9th - weigh out Friday, Feb 9th. You can weigh in/out at anytime on those days. Weight does not have to be disclosed to the group and/or forum unless you want to.
Rules:
-Commit to losing 10 pounds in 1 month
-For every 1 pound you DO NOT LOSE you will pay $10.00 to a maximum of $100.00
-Week 2 requires a weigh in - if you haven't lost as least 4 pounds - penalty fee of $10.00 pays to the pool
-No extreme dieting - such as running up and down to the Druids wrapped in cellophane wearing weights
-Winner(s) split the prize pool
-If no winners (this has never happened) - First person to hit the goal plus 2 extra pounds takes all (sudden death)
-Verification preferred but honor system for weigh in/out accepted
-Payments (both ways) can be made by cash, check or paypal - no delays in paying up!!!
~Susan
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand, Man.....
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dropping 10 off my usually muscular 245lb frame should be no big deal. Start making your checks out to me.... again.
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Jingy
Social climber
Flatland, Ca
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Jan 10, 2007 - 10:46am PT
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During the holidays and shortly after I was up to 171 on a scale at work. They were going to have a diet challenge at my job and I thought for sure that I could take all the money.
By the time it started, Jan 8th, I had dropped all fat and now I'm down to 154.
Strange thing what a little booze and smoke will do for ya!
Count me out!
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susan peplow
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2007 - 04:42pm PT
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Fish is lookin' good..... down .556 pounds.
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troutboy
Trad climber
Newark, DE
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Jan 19, 2007 - 05:25pm PT
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Yes, but the strict diet is clearly affecting his energy levels :-)
T
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euro-brief-guy
climber
mountain view, ca
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Jan 19, 2007 - 05:26pm PT
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probably .556 pounds of drool.
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2007 - 05:39pm PT
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Mick Ryan, "that was just saliva"
Russ Walling, "a quart?"
~Susan
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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Jan 19, 2007 - 06:45pm PT
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Now I know why I can't get my Fish fly!!!! Dammit!
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 19, 2007 - 09:17pm PT
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If I lost 10 lbs, I'd be eating into too much muscle tissue.
May the best chubster win!
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couchmaster
climber
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Jan 19, 2007 - 09:25pm PT
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Ahhh, Muscle tissue.....god that must be nice to have.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 20, 2007 - 11:58am PT
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down 4.5 lbs as of this morning
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 12:16pm PT
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Nature, you're too skinny to be on a diet. What up?
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 12:24pm PT
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I thought medicine was nearly free in Canada.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 12:25pm PT
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I need to go on a diet, hahahaha I can't gain or lose a pound if I tried.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 12:29pm PT
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Werner, I am truly curious. Which is your most heartfelt desire?
Less or more.....
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 20, 2007 - 12:42pm PT
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last April when Susan et al did the Diet Challenge™ I weighed 142.5 lbs. In the process of starting my business I did some Sushi R&D. As there was no one around to enjoy the extras I endulged myself - to the point that I gained 19.5 lbs. I found myself making cookies and eating a dozen at a time. I've also hit that point in my life where my metabolism has slowed a bit.
If nothing else it's an excuse to get back into climbing shape.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 12:45pm PT
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Seeing those recent pics of you, you appear to be pretty skinny. Must be the camera angle?
You must've been eating a lot of rice besides the cookies. If you ate only the sashimi, you'd be a lean machine.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 01:10pm PT
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Are you saying you have no medical coverage?
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Jan 20, 2007 - 01:54pm PT
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You guys....
don't cut the calories, bump up the heart rate is my answer.
Susan, get Mussy to take you hiking, that oughta do it.
bwahahahahahahah
Mussy, hiking, LOL, giggle,
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 20, 2007 - 02:37pm PT
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can't say - only gonna half agree with you. I've been porking out and not working out enough. Cutting back on one just a bit and upping the heart rate is the plan. Actually, it's not so much of cutting back but rather switching diets. More salads and less cookies. Maybe a week long raw foods cleanse.
We got six inches of snow last night. I just got some old Ramer Randonee bindings mounted on some new-to-me skis. I'm heading out my front door with my dog, my new found freedom, and some motivation to return with a sweat.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 02:39pm PT
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Yikes! Are those the Ramer's that were also called Ramer Break-a-Leg bindings? Be careful with those things.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 02:44pm PT
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Janet, you're not alone. Many smaller companies don't provide dental. It's costly.
How much is your typical annual fee for insurance? And I thought drugs were cheaper in Canada which is why so many Americans were buying them from there.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 05:06pm PT
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Thanks for the numbers, Janet, we finally have something to compare to. For self-employed individuals here, I started out at $199/mon in 2000 for a really good policy but without full dental. This increased each year until I was paying $330/mon when I got a job with group coverage in 2005. I now pay about $82/mon for excellent coverage including vision and dental.
Those drug prices are really high IMO.
So the socialized medicine costs are really low. Just out of curiosity, since you have your tax info. handy and without asking your income, what are the typical income tax bracket percentages?
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 20, 2007 - 06:17pm PT
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Now I'm all scared about these bindings. I use them more for touring than downhill.
Just got back from a nice tour in the snow. Musta dropped 5 lbs. I WIN!
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 08:47pm PT
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Nature, when Stan first taught me how to ski, we went to SLC with old gear and this was 1981! The pair of skis I was handed had Ramer bindings that would not release and you wore a mountain boot. I think I was using a borrowed pair of Super Guides or other. Are the Ramer's you have similar?
Anyway, our roomate who was there was a polished skier from CN and was horrified to see what gear I was using. He got really mad at Stan and told me to go rent better gear. I skied on that gear for a couple of days, made some wild runs, and finally rented something. Oh, and the roomie made me take lessons. Well worth it. Those were the days! The crashes we used to take were gonzo. Can't imagine doing that today. Way too brittle.
Glad you had a delightful day out there.
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 20, 2007 - 08:58pm PT
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Janet, very interesting. Thanks for the insightful data.
Get well soon and spend the money on the meds if they've been working.
Cheers,
Mimi
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quartziteflight
climber
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Jan 21, 2007 - 09:28am PT
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The diet challege seems cool, but not so good for the somewhat skinny folks.
Janet,
70$CA or US for the inhailer? What type of inhailer is it? That seems kinda pricey.
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 21, 2007 - 12:57pm PT
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Mimi - it sounds like my bindings are different. My bindings have a DIN release setting. They release at times when I don't want them to or feel they should have so I figured that might be where the break-a-leg part comes in.
time to go make some fresh tracks
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Jobee
Social climber
El Portal
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Jan 21, 2007 - 01:10pm PT
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Yo Susan (THE GREAT!) and Russ who off the sofa can blow the socks off all of us in one clean sweep...it's a mind over matter thing.
"I am sooooooo PHAT"!
Good luck getting the skinny on..you hungry fools!!
jowedbodhilittlemeowmeowjakeandallyourelportalianfriends
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 21, 2007 - 02:41pm PT
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The Diet Challenge Breakfast of Champions™
two vegan waffles slightly New Balanced with minimal organic maple syrup
four cups of coffee
fruit smoothie - rice dream and blended frozen fruit
two bran muffins
1.5 hours ski tour with my dog
I can feel the fat dripping off...
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Jan 21, 2007 - 08:48pm PT
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Nature do you work at a sushi place in Flag?
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2007 - 12:46am PT
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Gee thanks Doug. To think you called me evil for sending you chocolates!
What is that? Eel? Yummmmmmm
~Susan
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 22, 2007 - 01:11am PT
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Here's what I do (or did, before I was recovering from my shoulder having problems)...
In < Out = Weight lost. The equation doesn't get much simpler and for me it means shut cake hole and get exercise. Exercise in my case is climbing (as much as possible), running (18-20 mi/week), swimming (4.5-6 mi/week), and yoga (3x/ week). My diet is very simple when I get after my weight. I have a small morning / lunch bowl of this stuff blended to an oatmeal consistency:
 Kellog's All Bran cearal
flax seed
yogurt
banana
ginger
cranberries
lime
cow, oat, soy, or rice milk
1 scoop Trader Joe's protein [egg or whey (sp?)] powder
And a small evening bowl of the following mix augmented by a bit of some sort of protien (salmon/chicken):
1 cup (when uncooked) wild rice
1.5 cups (when uncooked) brown rice
1 can Trader Joe's cuban/carribean black beans
1 can Trader Joe's corn
1 Yellow Bell Pepper
1 big tomato
1 cup salsa
2 avacados
1 red onion
a bunch of fresh garlic
lots of cilantro
lots of [grated] ginger
splash of hot sauce
shot of salt
lots of pepper
splashes of Toasted sesame and olive oil
That make about a week's worth, and I live pretty much off these two mixes when I'm training. That, and I pound water all day and night. This pretty much guarantees I'll lose 2-3 pounds per week.
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2007 - 02:22am PT
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Jobee, did you see that photo of Russ on the sofa? Typical Friday night date night.
Pounds are melting away. Unfortunately, I believe it's whats left of my muscle mass. Still flabby but I'll make that 4 pound minimum weight loss on Tuesday.
Healyje - Where do I start?....you're just nutz! Wayyy to much exercise!
~Susan
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 22, 2007 - 02:53am PT
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Yeah, that's what my beat 53yo shoulder said at the time. Haven't figured out a 'new normal' yet, but probably have to ease up on the swimming...
[ Edit: I could drop all the exercising except for the running and it would basically work the same - the running is what makes the whole program work for me... ]
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand, Man.....
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Jan 22, 2007 - 11:55am PT
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Healyje: If I did that routine I'd be dead and weigh about 38 pounds in a week. I think I'd sooner just do Meth and eat 4 squares at Del Taco..... works for many.
Side note: That fat guy asleep on the couch is down 5 as of today......
can you spell W-I-N-N-E-R?
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G_Gnome
Boulder climber
Sick Midget Land
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Jan 22, 2007 - 11:59am PT
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Your guys little contest should be a percentage loss. Otherwise Russ is gonna continue to win every year. After all, he who starts the fattest has the most to lose and Russ is definitely up on Susan in that category.
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Holdplease2
Big Wall climber
Yosemite area
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Jan 22, 2007 - 12:29pm PT
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Hi Guys:
I haven't been checking in b/c this diet challenge thing is taking allll my time. I got a scale (digital) two weeks ago and it sits in the middle of my living room.
Though the weight loss isn't going that well (Only down 3.5 as of this AM and hitting the liquid diet to get the goal of 4 by Tuesday, I feel SOOOO much better than I've felt in a long time. So thanks for that!
This has been the plan, and I've stuck to it 100%:
* No drinks with any calories, including juice, excluding protein. (I'm vegetarian, so I need protien)
* No bread other than one tortilla a day
* No milk products except for the feta on the salad at cross roads
* One salad meal per day
* Two protein shakes per day.
Plus, I've gone to the gym three times and climbed four times.
Even though I haven't lost weight, I'm way more healthy. I can see something that looks like a two-pack emerging on the abs and my arms/legs are way more solid and strong.
So even if I don't lose 4 by Tues or 10 by the end, my little world is improving, thanks to the weight loss challenge!
-Kate.
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quartziteflight
climber
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Jan 22, 2007 - 01:20pm PT
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This thread is awesome.
Typical week. I've got tendonitis now so no climbing
Sun:
yoga
run 2-5
smothie or something
eat little maybe slacklining
no booze
200 crunches
Mon:
Yoga
Lots of ab stuff
hiking or something
no drinking
Tue:
Lots of coffee and soduku puzzles
no drinking
running
more abs
Wed,
This healthy sh#t is getting boring. Go to the bar, down about 20 shots, loaded!
Thurday:
head hurts alot. To hungover to eat. Must have coffee or a bloody mary.
Run 2-5 to suffer off the hangover
Friday:
back to the boring healthy stuff
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2007 - 01:28pm PT
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Jan,
Yes, yes we all know that it should be based on a percentage. We've debated this up, down and every which way for years and you are correct.
Unfortunately, it never quite works out and is difficult to monitor. 10 pounds to lose no matter how tubby you are is a tried and true challenge.
Don't have 10 to lose, don't play. People like Russ & Steelmonkey are always winners. Then again, Riley is playing this year and apparently kinda a big guy. He's up and likely will be paying the $10.00 penalty tomorrow.
Last challenge (spring '06) we had a 200+ pound contestant who had to pay the whole $100.00 at the end. Thanks for that Dave!
People like me & Kate appear (appear is the operative word) to not have the 10 to lose. Guess my opinion is if I lost 8 pounds that would be worth $20.00 to me.
Food for thought (as that's all I get these days).
Down 5 with jeans on!
~Susan
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 22, 2007 - 01:45pm PT
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I played poker with Sinson last night. He will be chipping in his $10 after missing the weigh-in tomorrow. I'll be down 5 lbs easy at the two week mark.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jan 22, 2007 - 02:14pm PT
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Didn't get a ruling on the knee injury...might make it hard to get all 10 off. Guess I might be hosed.
No problem with the 4 for tomorrow...
Seen a lot of complaining about percentage and all that about it not being fair for skinny people. If you need a Diet Challenge, you should easily have ten lbs to lose. If you're skinny, then count your lucky stars.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 22, 2007 - 02:30pm PT
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I have to have a strong aerobic component to my program or I'd never, and I mean never, lose weight or do it so slow as to not be worth the effort.
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Russ Walling
Social climber
Out on the sand, Man.....
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Jan 22, 2007 - 02:31pm PT
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Injury ruling: Pay up.
(like anyone in here is more than about 20 minutes from having to use a cane)
I'm off to Curves.... see'yall later!
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2007 - 03:36pm PT
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Wait just a minute here Greg. We just established that the weight should just melt off during sleep for guys like you and now you're claiming injury? We'd consider death and maybe hospitalization. Other than that, you're committed.
What about Janiec...she started with a knee injury and she's hanging in there. Leg lifts (scissor), abs, arms, backs, 1 leg calf exercises, pull ups, push ups, jump rope 1 leg....
Do I get a free pass for doing no activity what-so-ever? Nope, how 'bout Riley for being lazy as Hell....Nope.
You'll be fine Greg. Remember that Russ did the Mace in a knee brace...the hike and everything.
~Susan
p.s We take cash, check or paypal. (some of us even take yard work in exchange)
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mooch
Big Wall climber
The Immaculate Conception
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Jan 22, 2007 - 04:18pm PT
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All -
I busted Kate (aka The Raven) working the menu at The 'Roads' last night. Kate....when will you stop molesting the brownies there?
Good seeing you yesterday....quite the following you got going on there. HA! BTW, do you have Randy's number? Can't find it on this end. Let's work on some plans to wander out to Shuteye Ridge this spring before I lose you to The Captain :P
Mooch (aka Dr. Evil.....not related to Jody's evil twin)
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jan 22, 2007 - 04:28pm PT
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Dang...no love around here. Just for that, I'm losing that weight if I have to eat rice cakes between now and then!!!
I'm just like healyje up above, though, if I don't have a pretty hard core exercise program to go with the dieting, things move along pretty damn slowly. Figure my creeping-metabolism probably has something to do with being on some workout program or another since the mid 70's. My metabolism practices the first law of conservation of energy...
Wait...I think my knee feels better...I don't want to go on the cart...I feel happy...I think I'll go for a walk...
Good luck Janiec (sp?)!! I'm with ya baby!!! You can do it!!!
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Jan 22, 2007 - 05:01pm PT
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Greg, might I recommend the stomach flu bug that's going around?
Sheesh, so easy, wished I'd signed up for the DC'07...
Not goin'ta mention instant weight loss...
Cheers, and, hope the leg gets better soon...
-Brian in SLC
(might be PHX bound in a week or two, I'll keep ya posted)
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jan 22, 2007 - 07:15pm PT
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Just managed to whack out a bit over ten miles on the mountain bike... knee did okay if a little wobbly. Get the odd pain if I push with it a little out of line. Last days with little activity and lots of Vitimin I got the inflammation down...sure wish I could run, though...sigh.
BnSLC: Gimme a heads up dude. I'm in...may not be able to hit the brewery, though, if the Challenge is still going on...
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Standing Strong
Ice climber
still decidering
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Jan 22, 2007 - 10:06pm PT
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see but that's the thing about "dieting" - once they lose weight a lot of people just gain it back and have to do things like the diet challenge every year. you can't just deprive yourself. nothing is wrong with the occasional brownie. some of these regimes you guys have listed don't seem sustainable. you have to figure out how to make healthy living a lifestyle. and i don't really understand measuring this by pounds either. also, you tend to always be fluctuating by a few pounds so it's best to at least weigh yourself naked in the morning, after you've gone to the bathroom. and btw, you can gain quite a bit of fitness, lose several inches and gain muscle, which is heavier than fat. i've gone down four sizes since last year, and lost at least 25 pounds and i feel much better. i'd still like to get down two more sizes - yes, i got THAT out of shape. long story. however, i wouldn't want to do something like this challenge because one it's too public for me and two, while i agree it is a good thing to have a group to motivate you, i don't really agree with the measuring system so i wouldn't want to put $$ into it. i am lucky in that my friend and neighbor down the street is doing the same thing i'm doing and we motivate eachother and always chat on our walks / jogs which is nice. i can even wear her old clothes now, which is cool because i didn't have to buy a bunch of stuff or go through the hell of trying to sew stuff. and then i can pass them on to other friends and we can all share stuff and save money :)
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Mimi
climber
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Jan 22, 2007 - 10:31pm PT
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Mussy declaration: "Injury ruling: Pay up.
(like anyone in here is more than about 20 minutes from having to use a cane)
I'm off to Curves.... see'yall later!"
That sent me back! I can hear you saying that and I'm cracking up. hahahaha! I'm more like less than 15 minutes away.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 23, 2007 - 01:49am PT
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fattrad: "I'm going on the starvation diet, no more food until 2/8/07. Off to the gym in one hour."
Clearly a case of "no more more flan 'til they bomb Iran" - must be the neocon diet challenge '07...
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nature
climber
Flagstaff, AZ
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Jan 23, 2007 - 10:17am PT
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The two week weigh-in is today. Anyone that didn't lose 4 lbs coughs up $10 in to the prize pool. Two have reported via email - myself and greg. We're both down 4.5.
Where are the fat people with the ten bucks?
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Jan 23, 2007 - 09:07pm PT
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Just managed to whack....did okay if a little wobbly. Get the odd pain if I push with it a little out of line. Last days with little activity and lots of Vitimin I got the inflammation down...
Dude, I thought we weren't gonna talk about that kinda weight loss...geez, man, get a firm grasp on yourself...
Remember, more than four hours and call your doctor...(Dr., hell, call the friends and neighbors!).
-Brian in SLC
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susan peplow
climber
www.joshuatreevacationhomes.com
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2007 - 11:40am PT
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Two week status reports are in. For those of your following the challenge, participants had to lose at least 4 pounds by the two week weigh in.
Susan - down 7
Russ - down 5
Nature - down 4.5
Radical - up 5 - $10 penalty
Debora - down 6
Nancy - down/up 0 - $10 penalty
Justina - down 4.5
Janiec - down 5
Sandy - down 4
Steelmnky - down 4.5
Tim S - down 3.5 - $10 penalty
Timbo - down 4
Tommy - down 5
Crotch - down 5
Mini Cheese - undisclosed - $10 penalty
Eddie Moe - down 6
Holdplease2 - down 4.5
The real goal of this challenge is to motivate each other to lose weight. Sure, it's always fun to win the money but it would be just as fulfilling if we all lost the 10 pounds. At this point we all have the same chance to win splitting the pot at $2.35 each!
~Susan
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JenJen
Boulder climber
mountain view, ca
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weigh-out is tomorrow. Anybody got any predictions?
here's mine...
tommy is going to be paying.
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