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matty
Trad climber
under the sea
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Dec 12, 2017 - 10:16pm PT
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Looks nice, I was misled at first by the pictures that showed a house but there is no house on the lot. Still looks like a rad lot though.
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matty
Trad climber
under the sea
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Dec 12, 2017 - 11:11pm PT
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respect quiet hours - no drilling after 10PM ;)
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Dec 13, 2017 - 04:05am PT
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Hey, that house on the Pinnacles West Side is available for only $1.3m.
Surely Brad needs it as a second home? :-)
31251 Highway 146,
Soledad, CA 93960
3 beds 3 baths 1,906 sqft
FOR SALE
$1,295,000
EST. MORTGAGE
$4,804/mo
Get pre-qualified
Experience the forever views of the Salinas Valley and West Pinnacles National Park, relaxing on your private 160 acre ranch in the Gabilan Mountain Range. This unique estate boasts active production of ultra-premium Chalone AVA Pinot Noir & Cabernet Sauvignon grapes, onsite ATV trails, plentiful wild boar hunting and Pinnacles National Park trail access. The exceptional residence is meticulously designed with no expense spared on architectural detail with its high-end finishes, open floor plan, stone wine cellar, lap pool and floor to ceiling windows that take in picturesque views from every room. Completely off the grid, the design is focused on taking advantage of the natural environment, keeping your power consumption minimal. Use this distinctive property as a private recreational mecca on a vineyard estate https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Soledad-CA/111417807_zpid/40955_rid/globalrelevanceex_sort/36.472679,-121.213745,36.466268,-121.222929_rect/16_zm/
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Dec 13, 2017 - 06:00am PT
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Gunks guy!
One can buy Gunks rock in Rosendale, but it is a crap shoot as to weather you can get an un-contestable survey. New Paltz and Gardiner
are much safer any where bodering the Land grab and you could be a part of the preserve;7O
Your Search begins in the Tax Records. Look up Assesment contests may then have to dig into Maps, with property lines, and any cut outs that might show up Topographically'
Anther thing to look for would be Road names, or notations on old maps for rock or Ledge , There was A town name that caught my eye, and the Ridge in Ridgefield turned up a town where you can buy properties with rock on it. From small to 60 feet tall,Some mungy choss but lots of stuff some stunning pink Granite,
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Dec 13, 2017 - 06:22am PT
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This thread is moving. I want that Pinns estate Clint.
Meanwhile how is the garage climbing cave coming?
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Don Paul
Mountain climber
Denver CO
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Dec 13, 2017 - 06:23am PT
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I would suggest contacting access fund and a good realtor. There are properties in CO like this all the time adjacent to public land with real climbing on it. If a road can be built to the top then developers consider them "bluff sites" for mansions. Otherwise, land with cliffs on it is "useless."
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Dec 13, 2017 - 07:22am PT
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It is nice to dream....
Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
--Andy Dufresne in the movie The Shawshank Redemption
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 13, 2017 - 07:36am PT
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A year or so ago Corey Dudley had a
Listing for an amazing house on the outskirts of Estes park that had acerage, climbing on the property, the works! for like $550k. There was a video and everything. I'll see if I can find the link
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Dec 13, 2017 - 07:53am PT
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Here it is
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Gunks Guy
Trad climber
New Paltz, NY
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Dec 13, 2017 - 08:15am PT
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Hey Gnome, are you referring to the preserve's land grab? I live a 5 min walk to the preserve but do not border it. I hadn't heard about widespread title problems in Rosendale. I've built about 10 houses there over the years and never had a problem.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 13, 2017 - 08:52am PT
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MUNGE.... a few years back there was a house up at Shaver Lake.... on a 2 ac lot... the add went ... " large rock formations add a subtle ruggedness to the property..."
There were 25-40 foot tall boulders, much like DonutNation.
maybe its still for sale.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 13, 2017 - 09:52am PT
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Bought the crag, built the house.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Dec 13, 2017 - 10:12am PT
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Off White wins. Very nice.
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Off White
climber
Tenino, WA
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Dec 13, 2017 - 10:22am PT
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Oh, there's some private Eastern Washington stuff that's pretty great too, but more under the radar than I am. I don't know that anyone ever built a house up at the private bouldering area above Rainbow in San Diego County, but that's pretty prime stuff too. I think walking distance to public crags is as good or better than literally owning the crag. My friend Teri has the Ophir Wall outside Telluride in her virtual back yard, hard to top that one. Houses in the Smoke Bluffs at Squamish would count in this conversation, as would things in Icicle Creek in WA. Isn't there some private land adjacent to Lovers Leap? Some of that Arkansas sandstone? Don't get me wrong, I love my situation, but I don't think it's all that rare in the national sense. The special thing here is that there just isn't much rock in a 50 mile radius of Olympia, so it's extra sweet to have this in my yard.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Dec 13, 2017 - 10:52am PT
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A short cicut! ! WoW super cool Off White! Dang if I didn't try to do the same ,Over again THATS AMAZING !??
Gunks Guy, You Gno ME? I had the place at the End of Springtown Rd
Now marked by the street sign Cottage Lane, That includes all the lands
between Mountain Rd &the J Rhal Rail road Rail trail.
Turns out a Surveyor;
Raymond Killmier, Cut up a few properties, Illegally , lost his license but a lot of damage was done, allowing squatters to become entrenched, a dangerous mix - eventually Sovereign Citizens typed, death threats.
We left. It Has an old farm house and two fully detached 750,sqFt cottages, On a contested 4 acs of an approximate 8. could be 10, could be more with a right of way. We did our own title examination with the help of Fink/Pardini et'al, We found out that there are "good folks" who walked onto nice land, messed with it and have been there for to long. .; .
To Much Information, I dont plan on ever going back to Frozendale where there is some of the best ( just walk up and climb, big holds all the way up )-climbable rock anywhere, It was a daily dog walk past great climbs on the sides of the rail trail to the easy blocks and deep chasms deeper in. we were
and the I personally went off grid, Outta there to across the hill to Esopus just off the river. ( there are 70ft cliffs along that stretch, between the houses and the river)
So From Cottage Lane To Apple Gate that was "on the River" It is a cool property held by a cat lady when we left more than a decade ago. There are two Dwellings and The main house on the landing,
one is a brick 60s modern ranch house, with a flat rubber tan rubber roof, and an old Georgian Victorian, that was once was a library, set in the middle of an old orchard, overlooking the rivermy landlords name was Marin, but i m not sure of ownership of what.It is an Enclave gated neighborhood waiting to happen.,.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Dec 13, 2017 - 10:59am PT
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Off white for the HUGE win.....
very nice.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 13, 2017 - 11:21am PT
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When we bought our 5-acre "ranchette" back in 91, the ad didn't mention the abundant basalt outcrops & small cliffs, the spring creek, or the waterfall.
It had been on the depressed real estate market for a while, since "white-trash" were living in the trashy farmhouse & the property was also full of trash & weeds.
The real mistake was not bull-dozing the house, but at the time it was un-thinkable for us to destroy a perfectly good house, when we could instead remodel it. It's comfortable now, but it ain't going to be in Sunset Magazine anytime soon.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Dec 13, 2017 - 11:47am PT
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I will take a so so house in a great location before a great house in a lousy location
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 13, 2017 - 01:15pm PT
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I was serious about buying this joint in Colorado but The Wife said "JAMAIS!"
I figured it was also burglar proof unless they had Bill Forrest's plastic nuts.
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ec
climber
ca
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Dec 13, 2017 - 01:55pm PT
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‘Never thought a cliff could be used as currency...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2017 - 02:53pm PT
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Clint, that's gotta be one of the best in the country. I mean it is Pinns, right? :)
Clink, not so good on the cave. I got some stuff organized so there is more space now. But putting boards on walls has lost traction as we go into winter and the garage gets colder.
Come up and manage! Beer fridge is in.
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steve s
Trad climber
eldo
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Dec 13, 2017 - 06:37pm PT
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Does this work? From my casa in Eldo to the base of the Bastille is a 5 minute walk, 2 minutes by bike. About 7 minutes to base of Redgaurden wall and Naked Edge etc. It’s actually faster to walk in then drive. Pretty killer to have Eldo as my back yard. Dirt road, expensive shack... it’s not for everyone. Picture shows last pitch of Naked edge and Divingboard. And a full moon. Cheers
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mike a.
Sport climber
ca
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Dec 13, 2017 - 09:30pm PT
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I bought a house with lots of cliffs, I have the whole Southern Yosemite to myself!!! love living in Oakhurst!!!
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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Dec 13, 2017 - 09:44pm PT
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Just build a moonboard!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 13, 2017 - 10:10pm PT
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$898,000.00! What does a hotel room in Yosemite cost per night?
It seems like you could spend a lifetime of nights in a Yosemite hotel, for what that place, plus property tax, plus upkeep, would cost.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2017 - 10:24pm PT
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Kalen, I got ya covered. you buy the LED xmas lights drill the holes. You just have to move fast as it flickers!
guyman, any luck finding it?
Some great posts.
That Bama Hills spot looks pretty dern nice!
Yeah, Yosemite West, for that much to deal with that traffic in summer, you'd have to love living in Yosemite. Lot of reasons to love it.
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John M
climber
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Dec 13, 2017 - 11:05pm PT
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you have to figure out how to avoid the traffic. Travel early or late. For 4 months it sucks, but the rest of the year it isn't that much of a problem, except on some saturdays. It sucks getting into and out of the park on weekends if you want to do things out of the park, but mostly you try to leave the park midweek. It didn't bother me because I only left the park once a week to go shopping. I will say that the last 15 years or so it has gotten significantly worse. The thing about living in the park is that you are inside the park already, so that is more then half the traffic issue. If you head out for climbing early, then parking usually isn't that much of an issue. but don't try to move to a different spot. You learn to ride the shuttles. The 90s were pretty darn good to live in the park. I left 4 years ago after 24 years in Wawona.
Fritz, the lodge is 400+ a night from spring to fall. If you can get a room. It has mediocre rooms and you are stuck eating in concession restaurants. Not too bad for a few nights, but we are talking about living in a place. So your 9000 dollars a year property tax would only get you 20 nights a summer or so. And at the end you would have no investment. Just memories. A place like that one in Yosemite West rents for between 400 and 600 a night. I don't know how many nights a year one could expect to keep it rented if you owned it. Friends in Wawona say they about break even renting their cabin through Redwoods cabin rentals, but Redwoods take a 40 percent cut. Plus they charge for a lot of the services they provide, like filling your propane tanks on your gas grill. Friends of mine in Wawona rent their cabin through AirBnB. I believe for 400 a night, with $150 cleaning fee. And they clean it, so they keep the whole 400, minus county taxes. But then they live next door to it and own it outright. So its not that hard to deal with issues such as things breaking, and they have no mortgage to pay.
When I first moved to Wawona in 1990, a 3 bedroom house came on the market for 235,000 dollars. I went to look at it to buy it. It sold in less then 24 hours for the asking price. Today it would market for close to 750,000. Its crazy inside the park.
Here you go Fritz.. in Wawona. Only $329,000
https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/pmf,pf_pt/2094746522_zpid/globalrelevanceex_sort/37.550685,-119.629848,37.533705,-119.659717_rect/14_zm/
Edit: forget everything I said above. That was nostalgia speaking. The traffic flat out sucks. LOL.. But I still miss Wawona.
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Dec 14, 2017 - 06:21am PT
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"Gunks Guy, You Gno ME? I had the place at the End of Springtown Rd"
I might know you; do I owe you money?
We looked at a property at the end of Cragswood Road 20 years ago. But it abutted preserve and had other building issues. Had a nice one pitch crag right behind the property, between sun bowl and that other crag with some good short routes on it.
We own some property on Sparkling Ridge Road. Had full-on plans to build a nice cabin but the kids grew, got more expensive and then went to college. And the main areas in the Gunks have become untenable on weekends for me. Not so enamored with the place anymore. We'll probably sell the property in the next five to ten years and move to San Diego. Pacific Beach is calling my name.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Dec 14, 2017 - 06:52am PT
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No Gunkie, I got 1/2 the deposit back on the LBI house, just down from the Acme on the ocean ,at the end of Jerome, bad surf report, the better break is up by the cause-way by Harvey Cedars. . where were we? oh useless county real estate,
Im sorry
I mean it, really, I am sorry I ever owned anything there. I had hoped to age and enjoy the place but was done when the stations went in. I was looking forward to using them, but they turned out to be the harbinger of the end of my 30 yrs in the Gunks.. The addition of un-necessary bolted anchors changed things , intrinsically'
Bringing - it all - down to a lower level.
That lower level;
of risk/ vulnerability, commitment needed to participate,
led to swelling the crowds waiting at the base of walls, many not climbing. climbing in crowds made it no fun. Then to it all became much more of a walk. & the way that some of the properties are,?
that place is a sink-hole.( Did they ever evict the women with the puppy-mill from the hart of Clove Valley?)Chamilliel!?
We Left When The bolts Started going in, grabbed at a spike in a spring market, had a hard time deciding between Mass & Ct.for close rock,
Farley in 20 minutes or The Gunks in an an hour, hard to know which was the better? Then I found That perfect mix with lots of rock, so Ct, less than 1 hour from NYC and the same 60 miles to the white cliffs
I was happy when I could close My accounts in Emty Bank.
Cragswood Road! standing facing up hill at the end of the road,So the Marks property, That Drive way of which some do not speak, is on your left, the trail on your right leads towards Porteouse(?) lane and another great climbing zone I knew by the old, original owners name,The "Ws" next to the ("Conglomerate"(w/ Bruce & Elaine?)
I wonder? I buried a dog under the twin cracks that split the steepest short alcoe, the rock platform is the headstone, for a Goofey Newfie; Boulder (dog). is it that WALL? original sticky rubber shoe/And a beer production, With
dave Lahnman
The major developers of Cragswood road; Joe And Sheri (?)
? forget the last name - maybe?-
We were excellent neighbors, equally helpful in anyway we could be.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2017 - 11:49am PT
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Petch, nice proximity!
Off white, the classic example is your place. :)
John M. - good points.
I always liked the places in Bishop that had streams (irrigation?) running through their yards. Almost as good as a cliff.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 14, 2017 - 02:12pm PT
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Saw this place last summer. Sadly, it wasn’t on the market.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
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A buyer's realtor is great.
A seller's, not so much. Hence Zillow. Disruption of the elastic margin.
what we need is a Zillow for climbers. or a filter function...
"Does the home require a boulder that overhangs on all sides?"
"Does the home require a slab with desperate runouts?"
"Does the home require sandstone with overhanging offwidth?"
Of course the filter could select for height of the crag.
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Guernica
climber
dark places
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Dec 15, 2017 - 12:17am PT
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No cliffs, but my property here on the oreogon coast does have some ideal spruce trees for setting up some lovely midline/highlines.
Here's a fun one, "hanging gardens", 120' long & 65' high.
No climbable rock in my immediate area but at least I have my own personal highline training ground!
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Dec 16, 2017 - 05:50pm PT
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View from?
House near cliff
Easy walk to the rock
A route I did
60 metres
On the route
another easy walk from the house
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:34pm PT
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Styling MH2!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
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Mh2, nice!
Studley, what are those?
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Dec 16, 2017 - 09:59pm PT
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MH2 that is hard to beat not much more to
say about that
`From today,the The Nutmeg state, Connecticut, nearer to New Haven
theres small rocks everywhere.
Now, after seeing whats been shared here, My toes are glad I didnt head over to see what else is there,
but it is there
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Dec 16, 2017 - 11:30pm PT
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Hi Munge,
In the photo, its deep in China, a stone pagoda, and two heavily carved architectural stone columns for...an entrance to hell?.
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Dec 17, 2017 - 12:26pm PT
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There's a cliff near this site, too.
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Teri and Antoine Savelli
Trad climber
Ophir
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Our property outside Telluride is for sale! Not only is the climbing right there and we’re fifteen minutes to Telluride but we have the best natural spring in this part of the country with 8.5 c.f.s water rights!
http://www.ophirwallproperty.com
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nice... how far from the Ames Ice Hose parking lot is that?
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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Nice place. At 3.2 mil, probably out of reach for anyone that actually climbs rocks. Some retired tech millionaire or old money East coast family would buy it just for the views, I'm sure. Maybe see if the American Alpine Club would like to buy it convert it into a hut...
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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um?? not my circus I'm loath to add, but in all fairness
Welcome To The Taco Stand!
well nice to meet you Mr Sevelli,
ive known your name a long time.
You once had my resume.
Ill not mince words
A 3 bed 1 bath, on 2.3 acres ? \ please, . . . (you can shoot the messenger)
There is a formula, & ( i'm just guessing?) that the 1st respond'r
to you - "Fear", might be able to Qualify, but not when the appraisals come in
https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/437-Ophir-Rd-Ophir-CO-81426/124648870_zpid/
EDIT:
That is not the introduction that you deserve!
oh man, of course you would be watching. As I said,
welcome to this place.
where I'm a disreputable disgrace, due to posting drunkenly
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being a proud Arse,
from all accounts I have ever heard,& specifically because of your location, I used to recommend you...
I am a head strong Climber from way back,
1st '68 on the rope - gold-line & Bowline,on coil, tie-in
that said, I do know my Real Estate.
There is nothing wrong with your price, and I did not imply that there was. The Idea is to ask, so Yes, you have to try by asking.
There is a buyer out there,maybe one who can pay cash or half? to qualify
Also, I'm not saying that there is any price that would be right, it is a one of a kind, full of potential, they won't be making anymore like it.
Your Life And residence !! are a dream that still has not died in me Skoal!
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Teri and Antoine Savelli
Trad climber
Ophir
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Thanks, We're keeping the price high not only because there is nothing like this location anywhere that we have seen on this continent at least and our natural spring with the senior commercial and residential water rights are amazing.
Funny, that my first place to put this out was SUPERTOPO
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Teri and Antoine Savelli
Trad climber
Ophir
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No worries Gnome, a lot more history/knowledge goes into this evaluation than what Zillow put out. This is actually Teri writing but Antoine and I are both working on this together. Thanks for noticing it. Cheers
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Houses with cliffs in Norge are like McDonalds with fat people in the US.
This one comes with a farm! Course farming does cut into yer free time.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 10, 2018 - 01:56pm PT
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They’re running low here! Ya better hurry!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2018 - 02:19pm PT
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Teri, great spot! Thx for sharing it here.
Wish I could buy it.
I think I have an old Ophir Wall guidebook I'm willing to trade you the house for it? :)
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T?S
Trad climber
Reno, NV
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Jul 10, 2018 - 05:13pm PT
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bought the crag, built the house.
I think Off White has the only true solution here.... Go find land that has rock that speaks to you in some way and build the house around, or on it.
Always dreamed of this, whether its a small lead/TR wall in the backyard, a really awesome all-sides boulder...
or the possibly the ultimate: building your house to incorporate the rock in the house in some way.
Buying a house really close to awesome climbing is cool, but misses the point here i think.
I wanna OWN my crag/boulder...
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