A Hero for Our Times

Not me. Some guy apparently not afraid of bullets.

But the man with the beer is a victim. Don't victimize him twice.

Looks like some idiot there with a beer in his hand thinking he's cool by being a fool, standing in the open and taunting a man with a machine gun...

I see nothing heroic about it...

Over the last 24 hrs I have gone through lots of emotions. Fear, Anger, Heartache, Compassion and many others. I truely dont understand why a person would want to take the life of another. Something has changed in this country and in this world lately that is scary to see. This world is becoming the kind of place i am afraid to raise my children in. At the end of the day we arent Democrats or Republicans, Whites or Blacks, Men or Women. We are all humans and we are all Americans and its time to start acting like it and stand together as ONE! That is the only way we will ever get this Country to be better than it has ever been, but we have a long way to go and we have to start now. My heart aches for the Victims and their families of this Senseless act. I am so sorry for the hurt and pain everyone is feeling right now and there are no words i can say to to take that pain away. Just know u all are in my heart and my prayers as we all go through this together. Time to come together and stop the hate! #stopthehate #prayforlasvegas

this was a well planned coordinated military operation

You want FAKE NEWS? Go to this guy’s page. Couldn’t possibly be planted from a source wanting to create more hate and division, right? This is so obvious, it’s insulting.


Branch Talley Per the police press conference, S. C. Paddock did not have a Facebook page. Nor was he active on Twitter. This post is fabricated bullsh#t.

Christopher Allo Utter 45 style bullsh#t.
Becky Harshbarger This is completely false, Mr. Martin. You are trying to divide our beautiful country when progressives and conservatives should unite 🇺🇸. Many, many reporters have been searching for days, and the killer has no social media account. The gunman had no political or religious affiliation. Please do not exploit this horrific tragedy.

What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?

There'd be less calls for "gun control".

Obviously, the shooting was a Liberals's conspiracy to take our guns away!

Moose

What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?
There'd be less calls for "gun control".

Zamudio was in a nearby drug store when the shooting began, and he was armed. He ran to the scene and helped subdue the killer. Television interviewers are celebrating his courage, and pro-gun blogs are touting his equipment. "Bystander Says Carrying Gun Prompted Him to Help," says the headline in the Wall Street Journal.
But before we embrace Zamudio's brave intervention as proof of the value of being armed, let's hear the whole story. "I came out of that store, I clicked the safety off, and I was ready," he explained on Fox and Friends. "I had my hand on my gun. I had it in my jacket pocket here. And I came around the corner like this." Zamudio demonstrated how his shooting hand was wrapped around the weapon, poised to draw and fire. As he rounded the corner, he saw a man holding a gun. "And that's who I at first thought was the shooter," Zamudio recalled. "I told him to 'Drop it, drop it!'"
But the man with the gun wasn't the shooter. He had wrested the gun away from the shooter. "Had you shot that guy, it would have been a big, fat mess," the interviewer pointed out.
Zamudio agreed:

The trigonometry of terror: Why the Las Vegas shooting was so deadly

So in a magical unicorn fantasyland kinda place where you could make the icky scary black guns just go away..... You can't of course, real machineguns were used to kill scores of people in France and the rest of Europe recently, along with trucks and bombs. Pretty sure those are all illegal.


But let's for a moment pretend....

You don't think there's methods to kill 22,000 tightly packed people even more effectively than a rifle? If you believe it was really this guy they're blaming, he was educated and owned planes.

These events trigger emotions which then result in illogical thinking.

Fact is, if you've got a nutcase or several of them that want to kill and maim soft targets... they will. Particularly true in the case where the perps don't care much about living through it.

The suicide rate in the US is roughly similar to the rate in most European countries. (Rates vary from country to country--I just mean big picture.)
In the US, suicide is very often by gun; in Europe, it rarely is.
So if we got rid of guns, would our suicide rate magically be cut in half?

Delusional Solution: MORE GUNS.

DMT

Weirder yet, after closing a big deal I had plans to go to the Venetian for clams and then drive the strip people watching before heading to the firebase to camp and shoot my Les Baer SWAT monolith. The rifle and 2 loaded clips were in the car, but I was too lazy to gather camping gear and just stayed home.
If I hadn't I would have been right below Mandalay Bay shortly after ten,....

What would the media have said to a wealthy 64 year old psychopath shot by a wealthy 63 year old with the world's finest heavy battle rifle?
There'd be less calls for "gun control".

Bump stocks were approved for US sales by the ATF who were under the leadership of obama in 2010.

Here's another way to think about it.
The suicide rate in the US is roughly similar to the rate in most European countries. (Rates vary from country to country--I just mean big picture.)
In the US, suicide is very often by gun; in Europe, it rarely is.
So if we got rid of guns, would our suicide rate magically be cut in half?

Seem very unlikely to me--more likely people would just other methods.

As an epidemiologist working in suicide I can tell you that there are several well done studies that show that limiting access to guns (locking them in safes, trigger locks, removing them from the home) reduces suicides, especially among adolescents. Suicide is the leading cause of death for adolescents in Utah.

Doesn't Sweden have a high suicide rate,

Bump stocks were approved for US sales by the ATF who were under the leadership of obama in 2010.

Factually wrong.

They were approved for sale under the law written by Congress, controlling such sales. Those laws were written when such devices did not exist.

I don't know about you, but during his entire administration, I was seeing and hearing Obama calling for revision of firearms laws. He worked to change the situation. The Repugs blocked him.

The ATF does not have the power to approve of disapprove of something, they only have the power to enforce the law, as written.

Nice try to palm this off on "the black one".....

The problem is we may never know the answer because Congress has banned Federal research money from being spent on gun violence.

Congress Gutted Researchers’ Ability to Study Gun Violence. Now They’re Fighting Back.

It is much easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled

A letter that purports to be from a general surgeon who dealt with gunshot wounds in military hospitals: He links to a video of an operation on a real leg gunshot wound, its life threatening nature, and the incapacity that it inflicts for a long time even if the operation is successful. He compares this to the rosy-cheeked laughing alleged victims shown on YouTube with gunshot wounds in support of the official story and says without equivocation that they are actors, badly acting the part.

I appreciate the reader’s point that none of the 527 wounded have died from the wounds. This is not what happens in reality. I am posting the letter below from the surgeon in the hopes that knowledgeable surgeons, military medics, anyone with knowledge of gunshot trauma will assess it’s truth and provide their name and credentials. Not being a military surgeon who has treated gunshot wounds, I cannot attest to the validy of the letter. But there are those who can. Retired surgeons and former military medics can still speak their minds. So let us hear from you. I will compile your comments and present them without your name.

As for my readers, this is the deal: If there are validatated replies, I will provide a report, and that will be the conclusion of my participation in this issue. If there are no validated replies, I will conclude that no qualified people are willing to commit one way or the other on the issue. Without expert opinion, the matter cannot be resolved.

This is the letter from the person who represents himself as a surgeon familiar with gunshot trauma. It was sent to a person named Jack and forwarded to me. I eliminated “Jack” so that it would read to you simply as the expression of a purported trama surgeon’s opinion. Note also, that all of the fake videos of the wounded to which links are supplied have been removed from YouTube. Apparantly, as people are catching on, the authorities are being more careful about their “fake news.”

“As a patriotic American, I must say I was, like most people here, initially totally shocked by the Las Vegas shooting and I hate to admit naively believed the media. However, after receiving disturbing emails about it, with references to others with doubts, I began to look at the media reports with more suspicion, and from a medical point of view primarily the almost complete absence of blood on site from the around 550 victims apparently shot was an immediate give away.

“I am a retired general surgeon, and when younger served in a number of military hospitals in Asia and the Middle East, and I can assure you, few would have had such extensive experience in treating bullet wounds as I. Unless you’ve actually seen bullet wounds from a clinical perspective from high powered weapons they claim were used in the shooting, it is hard to appreciate the extent that the mainstream media are plainly lying.

“Most of these military style weapons now shoot high velocity bullets above 3000 f.p.s. muzzle velocity and when these bullets strike a human body they often cause the bullet to yaw (or tumble) and fragment into about a dozen pieces of various sizes thus creating wounds way out of proportion to the calibre size. Often these wounds are so devastating many have considered the modern M16 type assault rifle rounds (and other similar type of rounds) to be inhuman. Most media sources claim the victims were hit at a range of about 500 meters. To use the U.S military M16 assault rifle as an example. It uses 5.56 x 45 mm high velocity, flat trajectory cartridges giving it an effective range of about 200 meters, but with now more common M855 cartridges and heavier projectiles this is increased to 600 meters, with the bullet being lethal to over 3000 yards or 2700 meters. The M855 round produces massive wounding effects. After about 200 yards, as the velocity declines the projectile is less likely to fragment when it strikes the target, but it still does a huge amount of damage, way above wounds delivered from a regular hand gun for example.

“So with this knowledge in mind, I have now viewed most of the mainstream media reports on YouTube of the victims in hospital and I can assure you they are all actors and not one of these people is a legitimate patient. Being shot with a high-powered weapon and struck with a high velocity bullet is a very trumatic experience and indeed more patients routinely die from the trauma rather than the wound itself. Yet all these patients being interviewed in bed are not surrounded with emergency care diagnostic equipment at all, are looking completely normal, relaxed and comfortable. This is not how patients feel one or two days after being shot with a high-powered assault weapon I can assure you and even if its only in the leg it is still serious. Here is a short YouTube video of what many typical gunshot wounds to the leg of a patient actually looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cDIjCwl3n0

“Here is possibly some of the greatest government/mainstream media/propaganda yet about the Las Vegas shooting, showing President Trump actually visiting a patient in a Las Vegas hospital who apparently was shot through the leg. I can assure you, if he had genuinely been shot through the leg with a high velocity bullet as they claim, he would not, so soon after the event, be able to stand up, neither would he have the desire to do so. This is a disgrace, and one finds it impossible to accept President Trump does not know it is all a completely staged event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0ucMWOatho

“Here are a couple more videos of these supposed victims in hospital that have been shot. Every one of them are not legitimate patients at all, but are plainly actors: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gySdhRhWGVE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_LFKvz3W2w Note: in this video the girl patients are almost uncontrollably laughing, knowing that they are lying. During one or two days after getting shot through the hip with a high powered assault weapon and after having been operated on, I can assure you no patient is ever laughing or looking like this!

“Lastly, in the past material has been ‘censored’ off the Internet, and in relation to this recent Las Vegas shooting, links have been blocked over the last 2 or 3 days as well. You might like know that you are not on your own. Because both Facebook and YouTube are working together to censor everything they and the government doesn’t like and don’t want the public to know.

“YouTube has just changed its search algorithms from Thursday night 5th October 2017, to block and censor all the most persuasive videos making claims that the Las Vegas shooting event is a hoax, designing them conspiracy theories, especially videos exposing the crisis actors involved portraying themselves as victims in hospital. These are not wild allegations. It is from their own public admissions. Here is a report showing, “YouTube takes action against offensive conspiracy videos that claim Las Vegas massacre was a hoax.” The arrogance of it all! This is the resurrection of Nazi Germany all over again.

“Therefore, my conclusion is that the whole event was staged, there were no real shooters at all, and probably even Stephen Paddock’s brother is a crisis actor as well. When a handful of powerful wicked men like this control the banks, the global mainstream media and the government, no one can effectively now speak up to criticize, because when they do their words will never be published or heard. I think the real reason why they are using actors and staged events like this at this early stage, is that when they use real, bigger more serious events in the future, those patriots who have previously exposed these earlier events as not being real, will be made to appear stupid. Hopefully I have helped clarify this medical aspect at least.

Yours truly.
Dr K.S.
Florida.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cDIjCwl3n0
Gunshot Wound To The Leg Surgery At Shock Trauma
Surgery for a gunshot wound to the leg at the University of Maryland’s Shock trauma Center.

Yours truly.
Dr K.S.
Florida.