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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 4, 2017 - 07:34am PT
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http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-microchip-employees-20170403-story.html
The syringe slides in between the thumb and index finger. Then, with a click, a microchip is injected in the employee's hand. Another “cyborg” is created.
What could pass for a dystopian vision of the workplace is almost routine at the Swedish start-up hub Epicenter. The company offers to implant its workers and start-up members with microchips the size of grains of rice that function as swipe cards: to open doors, operate printers or buy smoothies with a wave of the hand.
“The biggest benefit, I think, is convenience,” said Patrick Mesterton, co-founder and chief executive of Epicenter. As a demonstration, he unlocks a door merely by waving near it. “It basically replaces a lot of things you have, other communication devices, whether it be credit cards or keys.”
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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I'm in !
It's better than touching those grody keypads at Supermarkets, ATM's and Gaspumps.
I'd want it implanted in my middle finger.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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“The biggest benefit, I think, is convenience,”
whoa! lookout!! someone's going to use that to justify adding bolts to established routes!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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we already have fingerprints and DNA, what harm can a little chip do?
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Chips are harmless... if the state sanctioned authority is on your side and as long the chips aren't hacked.
pretty big f'ing "IFs"
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covelocos
Trad climber
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If someone else wants in the door (or a smoothie) they just cut off your hand!
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WBraun
climber
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The chip belongs plugged into the socket on the circuit board, not in your organic body you stoopid Americans.
You loons and your Brave new stoopid world of organic drooling brainwashed robots .....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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The wife has been inserting Implanons for years - way more usefull!
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G_Gnome
Trad climber
Cali
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Reilly, we don't really want to know what your wife has been putting where!
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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They already know everything about you through your phone and internet habits. Chip is redundant.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Old news being recycled...
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WBraun
climber
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Most of you don't even need a chip implanted.
You're already sheepled and brainwashed to the hilt .....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Only a matter of time til new world nutjob showed up along with his pal conspiracy man.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Buffalo chips?
Does not seem cool...
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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My chip says I'm due for a sheeeple wash
It gives me the best dreams
And I never forget a thing
Never need fill in boxes again
I can chat with anyone anytime
And the cloud is so soft and smoothe
It's the same old magical powers
Without the blood
Chips Ahoy Dr. Spock
Fear is illogical
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dude, did you even read that? If you really think firing an artillery shell filled with anything, spraying anything from airplanes, or dumping barges of rust in the ocean will ever scale significantly then you're as delusional as the typical geoengineering enthusiast. Not happening.
Let's be excruciatingly clear - climate can't be 'engineered' except on grand scales. What constitutes a 'grand scale' you say? Well, producing 50-75 million automobiles per year that all produce exhaust meets that definition if you do it for decades. Operating 2 million megawatts of coal-fired power plants for decades also qualifies. Operating 12-15k commercial aircraft per year for decades probably only begins to approach that definition.
Nothing in that paper or plausibly imagined would ever make it to something like .0001% of the impact of any of the three just mentioned. And that's the problem with the whole concept of geoengineering - scale. There's nothing of any kind which can be done that scales significantly that isn't wired into all our daily existences at a fundamental level and certainly not in less than half-century time scales.
As for implanted chips? They're called cell phones - no need whatsoever to get subcutaneous.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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The book - Brave new World, Aldous Huxley, 1932
The movie - THX1138, George Lucas, Francis Ford Coppola, 1971
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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It's fine and dandy to have a chip, they may come in handy.
But what happens when you have too many in you?
Will you begin to swell?
Will you burst if you have enough of them implanted?
Collect them like FB friends.
Trade 'em for the doubles of others.
What's going on in this country is that,
along with the narcotics epidemic ...
This problem is within all age groups, folks ...
After the thrill that you get from the shots,
there is a horror that comes later ...
If there is a way the horrors can be prevented from happening to just one person,
I will have done well.
THE DEVIL awaits you weak-willed economic slaves,
while NIRVANA and PLAYBOY MANSIONS are the reward
for turning to the light of a savings account, surely.
I want my first chip here on my right shoulder, please.
It's free, right?
--Johnny Credit, Luddite, TX
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Do you even read these or is your reading comprehension so low you just don't understand them? That's study is meta-analysis of childhood neurodevelopment with exposure to high levels of naturally occurring fluoride in groundwater (common in China and here in the PNW) - i.e. this map:
It's a long, long way from any kind of indictment of fluoridation.
And Musk's Neuralink is a lot like colonies on Mars - easy to say, hard to do, harder still to find a reason for doing it at scale. But given you don't really know what he's even talking about it's not too hard to imagine you'd run amok with that anyway.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Werner, maybe the cosmic oneness of enlightened being has endowed humanity with analytical ability as a means of shedding our fallible mortal coils and transcending into realms that stoopid humans cannot understand. Maybe it is a test, to see if we can reattain true oneness through technical innovation before we blow ourselves up and fall prey to the illusion of oneness incited by mind-altering drugs that distract us from our true mission.
Things that make you go hmmmmm.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 5, 2017 - 08:27pm PT
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DMT, many movies are actually created to inform us at to what's in store for us in the future.
Terminator, would be a prime example. The powers that be want to merge man with machine.
It's already a reality.
Indeed. The chip implants were revealed in 1953.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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healyje, what can I post as evidence microchips will replace cash and credit cards in the not too distant future? How about a vid of a fellow with an actual chip!? Somehow, I don't think this will convince you.
As I posted earlier, that video is way old news. And, if you worked in high-tech software development, you'd realize what a massive pain in the ass all the various (if not endless) security logins are. The Swedish guys in the video came up with a cool solution to that. But it's just a tool, they did it to and for themselves purely for fun and convenience, nothing nefarious or coerced about it. They did it with an implant because it's cheap and easy compared to other biometric options which involve either expensive hardware or a significant amount of software work. What they did was pretty much dirt cheap and easy.
As for the fluoride, I speak of it being added to our drinking water.
Then why post up a link for a study that was about the neurodevelopment effects of naturally occurring fluoride in groundwater?
We spoke of this some time ago, remember?! Portland put forth a motion to add fluoride, and the citizens voted it down. I recall you were pissed about this.
I wasn't pissed at all, just observed it was a similar level of ignorance involved as there is with the whole mindless anti-vax stupidity.
DMT, many movies are actually created to inform us at to what's in store for us in the future. Terminator, would be a prime example.
No, they aren't created to inform us as to what's in store for us in the future. Sci-fi has always explored what's possible whether dystopian or not - there is no covert messaging in those explorations - they are what they are.
The powers that be want to merge man with machine.
There are no "powers that be" who collectively want to do anything and certainly don't want to merge man and machine. That doesn't mean we aren't pursuing all manner of man / machine interfaces. We are and on all kinds of fronts, for all kinds of reasons: spinal cord injuries, better prostheses, better machine control, etc. But none of it is driven by anything but the advantages of doing so.
Elon is an entirely different deal, he's got a lot of money to put behind his ideas and beliefs; some of which are great, some are simply overzealous and not going to happen like he thinks.
It's already a reality.
Actually it's not other than in the most crude ways imaginable and that's why Elon is throwing a bunch of money at his Neuralink project. There are lots and lots of hurdles to these sorts of endeavors and even if successful they will be deployed on a very limited scale and only for a very few use cases where it makes sense economically or for safety reasons.
Bottom line? Neither you nor I are vaguely significant enough to bother with in the scope of anyone's imagined nefarious schemes - certainly not at the price point it would take to do so. And really, why bother when more successful coercive tools like twinkies, french fries, 'reality TV', supertopo, and cellphones are readily available.
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Barbarian
climber
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edit: I do enjoy my time with you lot!
Can't say I share the sentiment.
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Lollie
Social climber
I'm Lolli.
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Hacking and demanding ransom is simply business, with call centers nowadays. This could make cybercrime rather interesting.
All these things works as long as one can trust the government and the state around oneself. Practical, even.
But with nazis, racists, fascists and other creepy ideologies on the rise, one just have to remember Nazi -Germany. Not very long time ago. What if all these tracking possibilities had been possible back then? Six million dead people had seem as a moderate amount.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Question: If I take the battery out of my cell phone is it still traceable?
Edit: Where to put the chip? Up my arse. That way it'll be gone to where it belongs soon enough.
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perswig
climber
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Nov 20, 2018 - 12:56am PT
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Yeah, that's not just a little creepy.
Although the ad's slickly-done, and for anyone who's got a handle on biometrics, data-mining, and marketing, the potential seems infinite.
Dale
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