Hopefully the 2 parties will get together
and come up with a health care bill that every one likes.

GOOD!

Spiraling health care costs didn't begin with Obamacare. Without a mandate forcing young people into the market there's no feasible way to lower costs.

There replacement was pretty pathetic.

They need to just repeal without replacement. Let the market sort it out. There would be a period of pain before improvement.

Healthcare is a basic human right. Meaning, anyone who wants it has the right to seek it by there own means, not by government mandate.

Exactly....yet Barry and the Dem's rammed this garbage down our throats anyway. They had complete control to get the job done right(single payer) the first time but Reid/Pelosi coudn't walk away from that tasty lobbyist money. Fuking crooks

"Here's the problem: We're having a hard time making the transition from being an opposition party to being truly in the majority in Washington, D.C.," said Rep. Mike Coffman (R-Colo.). "It used to be an opposition party. There's a comfort in being against everything."

The failure underscores the biggest obstacle to any GOP health care reform effort: The party is simply too divided to pass legislation that pleases all its members. After this week, it's unclear if conservatives will settle for anything less than a full repeal of Obamacare. Moreover, any changes made to placate the conservatives will further alienate moderate Republicans and vice versa.

Exactly....yet Barry and the Dem's rammed this garbage down our throats anyway. They had complete control to get the job done right(single payer) the first time but Reid/Pelosi coudn't walk away from that tasty lobbyist money. Fuking crooks

The top Administrator of Medicare makes a few hundred thousand dollars.

That's still an outrageous amount of money, particularly when it's coming directly from taxpayers' pockets.

How come you are never outraged that someone making 50 times that ($102 Million) was made by denying people medical care?

That's still an outrageous amount of money, particularly when it's coming directly from taxpayers' pockets.

In an effort to keep the public option idea alive, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi invited me to testify during a Sept. 16, 2009, meeting of the Democratic Steering and Policy Committee Forum on Health Insurance Reform.

Knowing the industry as I did, I told the committee that if Congress failed to create a public option to compete with private insurers, “the bill it sends to the President might as well be called “The Insurance Industry Profit Protection and Enhancement Act.” Pelosi insisted that Congress had no intention of doing that.

While Pelosi was able to get a bill through the House with a public option provision, she couldn’t control what was happening in the Senate. Although a majority of Senate Democrats supported the public option, the industry knew it only needed one senator who caucused with the Dems to change his mind and kill it.

Part of Trump's brilliant plan

Madbolter's president

Nobody on the forum worked harder than you to undermine his opponent.

Incompetent Don's yours, 100%. You get the slimball Gorsuch and everything else.

Package deal, the vanity, narcissism and clumsiness included.

remove health insurance for 20 million Americans

I don't care if i can't afford health insurance

The proposal is to eliminate ten essential benefits that, according to the Affordable Care Act, must be offered as part of any insurance plan. Those benefits are:
•Outpatient care without a hospital admission, known as ambulatory patient services
•Emergency services
•Hospitalization
•Pregnancy, maternity, and newborn care
•Mental health and substance use disorder services, including counseling and psychotherapy
•Prescription drugs
•Rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices, which help people with injuries and disabilities to recover
•Laboratory services
•Preventive care, wellness services, and chronic disease management
•Pediatric services, including oral and vision care for children

In other words, all potential benefits of health insurance, like covering hospitalization and prescription drugs, gone in favor of some sort of ridiculous a la carte system where men don't have to pay for maternity benefits but women would have to pay for men's boner pills if they wanted prescription drug coverage. Apparently men don't have anything to do with pregnancy, either.

This is Paul Ryan's nirvana right here, and apparently it's enough to get the Freedom Caucus on board.

We dodged a huge bullet in that Trump is completely incompetent.

Part of Trump's brilliant plan. He knew it would not pass, therefore, he will let Obummercare implode on it's own and then get everything he wanted to pass.

Also, there is language in Obummercare that refers to a "as the HHS secretary sees fit", etc. Well the current HHS has the power to gut Obummercare on his own based on this language that gives him broad powers to implement changes.

It also shows that Ryan is incompetent. He is suppose to be the guy who gets things done. The enforcer so to speak.

A gov't official that sets out to sabotage an official gov't law. Where is THAT in the Constitution? Will he write out this order in Russian???

kingtut is demonstrating what is so pathetic about the liberals way of thinking. They can't even comprehend people helping the needy WITHOUT THE GOVERNMENT! The government is the only one in the mindset capable of helping the needy. If an individual wants to help WITHOUT GOVERNMENTAL INTERFERENCE...then the libs accuse them of hating the poor and being "fake" Christians. This inability to separate government involvement in helping the needy shows how mentally blind they are.

They need to just repeal without replacement. Let the market sort it out. There would be a period of pain before improvement.

Healthcare is a basic human right. Meaning, anyone who wants it has the right to seek it by there own means, not by government mandate.

A cooperative model with direct individual and employer payments to networks comprised of GP's, specialists, pharmaceuticals and hospitals would be a good working model. Cut out the middlemen and excessive regulations to just pay for healthcare.

Basketball fans tonight in several Republican-adjacent TV markets are enjoying a series of ads, prematurely bought by the American Action Network PAC, inviting viewers to call their representatives to thank them for repealing Obamacare today—something that did not happen.

The government should spend the time/effort/money it would spend on single-payer to instead actually DO the anti-trust enforcement it DOES have a constitutional duty to accomplish.

We COULD contact our "representatives" and say something like, "Get off your a55es and hold Congressional hearings on the costs of health care and the profits (and salaries) of insurers.

What if a state overhauled their system and was used as an example? Is that possible? Bernie and others tried in Vermont, but that went south. I don't have the answer. Hope someone does.

The GOP could have fixed the ACA any day of the last 7 years for lower costs and better coverage, but instead they f*#ked over the American people for political purposes

I know none of the Government parties are on obamacare.
We the people are paying for their EXCELLENT Medical coverage!
If they were forced to be on obamacare they would be working hand in hand
40 hours a day to change the insurance and health care system.

I could only hope to so clearly put into words such a dark version ,
then again, oh man, to hope to be able to foretell such a dark image is nothing to hope for at all

Accomplishments of the ACA

Implementation of the ACA has produced several positive health care benefits[1, 4].

• The rate of uninsured Americans declined from between 16.3% and 18% for 2010 to 2013 (before implementation of the ACA) to between 9.1% and 11% for 2015 to 2016, which to my knowledge are the lowest uninsured rates recorded to date in the United States.[6, 7] The rates are even lower among states that implemented the ACA Medicaid expansion compared with states that did not (7% vs 14%).[8] As a result, 20 million of the previously 48 million uninsured Americans gained health care insurance. This improved their access to health care, their financial security, and their health.

• The health care exchange market provides subsidies (financial assistance) to families with incomes between 100% and 400% of the federal poverty level so that they can have health care insurance at a reduced cost.

• For states that are willing to accept federal assistance, the ACA Medicaid expansion covers individuals and families with incomes up to 138% of the federal poverty level (this includes adults without disabilities and without dependent children).

• Dependents (children) can remain under the insurance of their parents up to the age of 26 years.
Insurance companies cannot deny health care coverage based on preexisting medical conditions. This could have potentially affected as many as one-third of Americans. Insurers also are prohibited from canceling insurance in the event of sickness (a surprising but not uncommon occurrence before the ACA).

• Minimum acceptable health care coverage standards and benefits are required for health insurance policies. This protects patients against insurance that would be worthless in the case of serious illness, and from significant deductibles.
Insurers cannot cap the amount of care received annually or in the patient's lifetime. This helps patients to avoid abandoning care because of financial burdens.

• Reasonable caps are proposed on annual and lifetime out-of-pocket expenses.

• Patients cannot be denied coverage of, and access to, clinical trials.[9, 10]

• The Medicare Part D coverage gap is being reduced gradually and will be closed completely by 2020. This coverage gap, commonly referred to as the “doughnut hole,” describes high out-of-pocket expenses on oral medications provided to senior Americans covered under Medicare.

• Health care spending is projected to be 20% less than anticipated.[11, 12]

• On average, the trends for increases in health care insurance coverage and costs are lower than in the periods preceding implementation of the ACA.[13]

• Insurance companies are required to spend 80% to 85% of their revenues on actual health care. This figure previously was as low as 50% to 60%. As a reference point, Medicare spends 97% of revenues on health care.

• Approval/disapproval rates of the ACA have varied over time, depending on polling sources, how the questions are framed, and ideological beliefs, as well as ethnicity and age groups.[14] Recent polls have demonstrated that more people approve of the ACA.

• Approval rates are reported to be 61% among Hispanic and 91% among African American individuals.[15] Approval rates are higher among younger Americans compared with seniors. Approximately 80% of ACA enrollees are satisfied with their coverage. The approval rate is 91% for those covered by Medicaid.[16]

• To date, none of the dire predictions of ACA implementation have materialized (ACA death spiral, “death panels,” increased costs of care, soaring insurance premiums, massive insurance cancellations, job killing, etc).

"Practically every wealthy capitalist democracy in the world has decided that some form of government-managed universal health care is the most sensible and effective option."


"The point of universal coverage is to pool risk, for the maximum benefit of the individual when he or she needs care.

And the point of having the government manage this complicated service is not to take freedom away from the individual. The point is the opposite: to give people more freedom.

Arranging health care is an overwhelming task, and having a specialized entity do the negotiating, regulating and perhaps even much of the providing is just vastly more efficient than forcing everyone to go it alone."

How is the ACA going to explode? I truly want to know, because I give a damn about my fellow citizens. How is me getting insurance at an affordable rate screwing everyone else? I don't qualify for a policy under the Medicade (or is it Medicare, I confuse the two) expansion.

What's the fallout?

The General Welfare clause empowers the elected Government of the USA to do ANYTHING that improves a citizen's life, liberty and happiness in their judgment as long as it has a RATIONAL BASIS.