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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Mar 23, 2017 - 11:37am PT
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I blame the millenials
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2017 - 11:39am PT
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Yeah,millennials won't be friends with me either.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2017 - 11:48am PT
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Locker: how the f*#k did you get my picture?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 23, 2017 - 04:15pm PT
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Who's lonely?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Mar 23, 2017 - 04:47pm PT
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Could you friend me? please please please!!!!!!!
haha, that article is true, I am terrible at maintaining my friendships. When any of my few friends call me the first thing they ask is if I am in town. Although when I am in town I always cook dinner on Sunday evening and invite a couple of my closest friends over to eat. If I did not do that I would never see them. Everyone else can try to catch up to me.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Mar 23, 2017 - 07:11pm PT
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So is Jody.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Mar 23, 2017 - 07:14pm PT
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Loneliness I can handle.
It's blandness that's the real killer!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 23, 2017 - 07:16pm PT
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It's blandness that's the real killer!
Don't be so hard on the Boulderites, Roy.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Mar 23, 2017 - 07:45pm PT
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I'll have to reconsider my rope soloing in light of this insightful research - not.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Mar 23, 2017 - 07:51pm PT
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Tami as always nails it. :)
Imho, only way you can die of loneliness is to care about yourself more than others.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
moving thru
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Mar 23, 2017 - 08:07pm PT
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Need to think about that, Jim. I think at this moment that love given is free and we never need to be a doormat.
jess sayin :)
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Stupid Merican
climber
Crankloon, OH
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Mar 23, 2017 - 10:08pm PT
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The pistol is loaded after seeing Jody's photo.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2017 - 10:58pm PT
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Wow. I guess even female climbers are selfish.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Mar 24, 2017 - 06:28am PT
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And here I thought that Canadians care. The woods aren't greener on the other side of the border after all.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Mar 24, 2017 - 07:28am PT
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Awwww.
Maybe he can help
Susan
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
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Mar 24, 2017 - 07:36am PT
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Imho, only way you can die of loneliness is to care about yourself more than others.
Gold.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Mar 24, 2017 - 09:11am PT
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Isolation = loneliness?
I hope we’re not paying too much for these research studies.
Alienation, anomie, estrangement, meaningless, purposelessness, Gemeinschaft or Gesellschaft, existential angst, etc. have been conditions that were talked about a great deal once organization / society started separating people from close-in social ties and purposes and even their work. Go back and review Marx, or Durkheim, or Nietzsche. Or go back to the Bible and read that Man freed from communion with God will waste to ruin. It’s an age-old topic: “why don’t feel whole?”
You can be lonely in a large family of 10, in a city of a few million people, or even living with a spouse of 30 years.
Me, . . . I am enjoying more and more time alone.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Mar 24, 2017 - 09:14am PT
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Get a cat.
Susan
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Mar 24, 2017 - 09:34am PT
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goB, duh, most musicians are in the same boat as most actors. It's depressing working as a waiter.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Mar 24, 2017 - 10:01am PT
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im, I just got a shirt and coffee from the BRCC...good stuff.
Interesting...a Utah coffee company. At 13 to 17 bucks a pound...hmmm. We'll see how they do long run. Strange based in a place where less than half the population doesn't partake.
The video looks like it was filmed at the Armory...a whoppin' two minute drive from work for me. Fun spot. They could turn the air down a bit in there...gets chilly. Friendly folks. Convenient and not too spendy. I'm about due for a free day pass...
Peets on sale at the local Smiths here for 5.50 per bag. Wow.
Haven't tried their coffee. Wonder how it stacks up to Silver Bean (another local roaster).
Anyone do a taste test?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Mar 24, 2017 - 10:36am PT
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No worries, a cure seems just around the corner...
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/what-would-sex-robots-for-women-look-like
Watch: Behind the scenes at a VR porn shoot...
"One thing is undeniable... the way we hang out, talk and f*#k is about to change forever..."
re: sexbots for women, sexbots for men
"The fact is that we don't yet know what kind of relationship humans will have with their robots."
"We are the guiltless pleasures of the lonely human being," says Gigolo Joe. "We work under you, we work on you, and we work for you. Man made us better at what we do than was ever humanly possible."
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2017 - 11:16am PT
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I don't get it, every robot I've seen could easily serve as a sex robot, especially those ones used to weld cars together.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 24, 2017 - 11:19am PT
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I have a couple of theories on the guitar player depression thing.
1. Especially in these YouTube days, it is easy and frequent to see examples of people with far better skills, development, talent, etc.... In the olden days, many people with solid skills or "way above average" abilities in something were able to feel like they were special. Nowadays, it is easier to realize how so many people are so much better than us at whatever we think is our best ability. So if our self-worth is based on our relative ranking with a certain ability that we believe defines us and encapsulates our identity, that gets crushed pretty quickly when seeing what amazingness is out there in the world. SUMMARY #1: SELF-WORTH BASED ON OUT-PERFORMING OTHERS IS A DEAD END.
2. As one more deeply pursues "excellence" in whatever field, the mechanics of mastery and deeply analytically understanding what is happening can take away some of the "magic" and just plain joy that goes with the activity. Instead of having a glorious rainbow of blissful sound washing over you, you might hear a specific sequence of notes and visualize how to move your fingers to replicate that and it is good, but not that same bliss of "what crazy gods made this stuff." I remember a music professor who is still a long-haired hippy kooky classic rock guy seemingly having fun, and another music professor (Beethoven specialist) who stopped listening to music when he is relaxing because it is too much like work with his brain analyzing and categorizing stuff. Such a delicate balance of putting in the work to gain proficiency without killing the soul of what gave you the passion to do the work in the first place. SUMMARY #2: BEWARE THE TRAP OF LOSING THE MAGIC AND JOY WHILE PURSUING EXCELLENCE.
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Mar 24, 2017 - 11:50am PT
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Welcome to the Monkey House.
Vonnegut solved this in the 60s.
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Mar 24, 2017 - 12:01pm PT
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What happens after you get the cat?
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2017 - 12:11pm PT
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Have you heard of the game; Schrödinger's cat?
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Mar 24, 2017 - 01:30pm PT
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Hi Jody, I can tell by looking at your hands & fingernails you do not climb anymore, that photo is airbrushed to hide imperfections and is from 10 years ago or more.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Mar 24, 2017 - 01:49pm PT
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Susan! You don't wanna ruin some poor kitty's life !!!! :-D hahahaha.
Spot on! It's likely to be grabbed.
Susan
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Mar 24, 2017 - 02:05pm PT
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Peets on sale at the local Smiths here for 5.50 per bag
That's all I drink, French Roast. Real coffee!
Nowadays, it is easier to realize how so many people are so much better than us at whatever we think is our best ability
Nice, Nut. And can achieve so much more.
As a mathematician who did a little legitimate research while a college prof, having retired in 2000 but still wanting to dabble in the art without trying to keep up the accelerating pace of published research on the outer fringes of my expertise, done by much smarter mathematicians, I turned to "elementary" investigations that appeared to have been neglected in the race to the top, and have written many math notes along those lines, quite a few of which are new discoveries, but just not as sophisticated as typical published articles.
I think some of this stuff is publishable, but who really cares these days? The process enables me to explore at my own pace without competitive pressures. There is still that delight in finding something new. I put these notes up on researchgate.net for anyone who might be interested, and find that there are occasional views from all over the globe, almost any nation you can think of. Probably more people read my articles now (but still, very few!) than when I did legitimate stuff!
Just one little story about how to adjust to ageing and solitude while keeping alive a spirit of exploration and discovery.
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MikeL
Social climber
Southern Arizona
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Mar 24, 2017 - 10:29pm PT
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Susan: Get a cat.
Got one with two fosters currently. Cats like being quiet and alone, too. It's not easy to get one's 16-hour beauty nap everyday if everyone is running around and making noise. (Perhaps city cats are different than country cats?)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 24, 2017 - 11:46pm PT
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hey there say, moosedrool...
say, very nice post:
Mar 24, 2017 - 12:47pm PT
When I was a kid, I got used to be alone. Awkward, terrible in team games, I couldn't identify with my class mates. We also moved a lot, so I had no long term friends. I preferred being alone.
Since I hated school too, I would go to the forest, climb a tree, lay on a branch and read. When there was snow, I would go on skis for hours, crossing little hills in that forest. Always in trouble with teachers and parents.
When I went to high school, I didn't want to be alone anymore, I learned judo, got strong, and gained respect at school. Then everybody wanted to be my friend.
Since then, I have become a social animal.
But I still like to go alone hiking, climbing, skiing, scuba diving, or biking. Just not too often.
It's good to be alone from time to time, knowing you have somebody waiting for you at home.
Moose
say, nut again...
nice to share about the #1 note, as to the
quitarist, etc...
as to any instrument, or whatever one does:
one must not dwell on who does what better...
it is better to think about the why, and move on:
why = we are different, taught and learn different, play and learn
for different reasons, and on and on...
one should do what one does... strive for their own best and
make goals that one knows are OURS and 'to push to match the world media'
of soooo many neat players out there...
:)
*have not read many other stuff here, yet... been busy, :)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 24, 2017 - 11:55pm PT
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hey there say, jody... interesting to read that about your daughter and her teacher taking notice to her ways...
say, i had a small, very small circle of friends, as, we didn't
hang out the clicks, etc, that hurt and mocked folks that
were different for whatever reasons...
we made the best sincere friends by being friends in-and-with the
those around us, that were:
'just who they were' whether they-or-us:
bothered the--
'we're special' group...(labeled of course, by themselves, not us) ...
some folks turn they nose up at you, you know, and may criticize
you, but-- your conscience of just being a simple human being,
in god's eyes, is always clean then...
very interesting shares, on this page, in many different ways...
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Mar 25, 2017 - 06:19am PT
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When worker bees are worn out they leave the hive to never return. It's socially responsible to leave the corpse where it won't gum up the works. I like to think that one or two of those tired and bedraggled drones are rolling in the clover doing what the birds and bees do.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Mar 25, 2017 - 06:27am PT
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Men and women -- even man and wife are foreigners. Each has reserves that the other cannot enter into, nor understand. These have the effect of frontiers.-Mark Twain
Welcome to the wilderness.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Mar 25, 2017 - 07:15am PT
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45912
We 'Yanks could learn a thing or two from our brothers from the north
A " Stop you in your tracks' beast . . .
A Good 'Broad,
and a
Big smile
go along way to perpetual survival
Grabbing enough time, away from it all to re-charge, re-evaluate
taking the time to see the storm-setand rolling clouds from positions like that!
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