OSHA fines Exum after death, water-knot probe

...as anyone that's used 9/16 tubular webbing knows the water knot is completely unreliable and comes apart so easily.

as anyone that's used 9/16 tubular webbing knows the water knot is completely unreliable and comes apart so easily.

OSHA now getting involved in the climbing world?

Yowza, so scary .........

It's a known notorious problem with 9/16 tubular webbing especially aid climbers know this as the 9/16 tubular tie-offs come apart just hanging on the rack while climbing.

This guy also fails for trusting his life to a single non-redundant sling. Should have had a second backup sling. That is really the worst offense.

OSHA shouldn't be fining climbers.

OSHA ain't climbers.

They are clueless to the dynamic world of climbing environments.

OSHA is a static robot ......

It doesn't matter what OSHA understands of the sport - they're simply an org that won't participate in nor accept BS.

The dude weighed about 340 pounds 5 feet 8 inches with a beer gut you wouldn't believe ......

I'm okay with the OSHA thing...

Fall Protection
Something every instructor must go over with his clients is protection from a possible fall. This includes proper landing technique, avalanche awareness and how to break a fall.

Climbing Aids
An instructor or manager has the responsibility to provide adequate climbing aids to clients. This may include harnesses, clips and hooks needed for a safe climb.

Loads
Loads and weight-bearing boundaries should be addressed before a climb. This includes any backpack or carry-on pack the climber may have.

Body Belts
Body belts and harness adjustment are essential to a successful climb. Making sure that each climber has been shown how to properly use belts, harnesses and ropes is part of OSHA's safety standards.

Instructional Data
Providing instructional data such as video guides, booklets, or hands-on demonstrations of how to safely climb rocks, mountains, ice or other terrain is necessary. Another important part of OSHA guidelines is demonstrating accident scenarios and reviewing safety and first aid concerns related to each type of climb.

the strength of 1/2" is sufficient

Who here is old enough to remember that fat and stiff 9/16" tubular webbing was called "Super Tape"?

wouldn't monkey-f*#k you as much

Damn, that 15C is a blast from the past. You dudes are old.

want to run a guiding business employing other guides? sorry, but i don't see why you shouldn't have to play the same game that every other business employing people in dangerous fields has to play... ultimately, if done with realism, it is for the betterment of the industry as a whole as it creates more professionalism, a leveller playing field and a safer environment for all involved.

If OSHA were to really get involved they'd kill every guiding business out there.

saying an employer is responsible to inspect their employee provided safety gear once a year is, imo, both realistic and positive.

Damn, that 15C is a blast from the past. You dudes are old.

Good luck at being able to quickly untie a cinched water knot.

The US tort system is far more efficient.

The US tort system is far more efficient.

If it did, then the atrocious workplaces, worker injury and death rates of the past wouldn't have existed.

The usual fringe-right, hate-all-things-guberment nonsense.

I used to program that thing instead of using the mainframe (lol, you young guys know what a mainframe is?)

Feb 22, 2017 - 02:21pm PT
If it did, then the atrocious workplaces, worker injury and death rates of the past wouldn't have existed.

And OSHA eliminated such things, due to its wonderful oversight?

And OSHA's wonderful oversight could have kept this incident from happening?

And the fine is going to make guiding services really shape up to keep such things from happening again?

The usual fringe-right, hate-all-things-guberment nonsense.

The usual fringe-left, government-does-all-things-well nonsense.

And OSHA eliminated such things, due to its wonderful oversight?

And OSHA's wonderful oversight could have kept this incident from happening?

And the fine is going to make guiding services really shape up to keep such things from happening again?

According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, there were 3,849 workplace deaths in Texas from 2003 through 2010 – the years available in the online database. That was 10 percent higher than the 3,589 workers who died at work in California in the same period.

That's not a negligible difference when you note that California – despite all its faults – has a far larger workforce than Texas. (Even if in this period, Texas jobs grew 10 percent as California payrolls shrank by 3 percent!)

So when you look at workplace deaths vs. the BLS count of all non-farm workers by state, Texas had 4.79 fatalities per 100,000 workers in 2003-2008 vs. California's 3.07. Basically, Texas workers died on the job at roughly a 50 percent faster pace than Californians.

O.K. Not all jobs are the same in terms of risks.

So I then looked at a particularly dangerous slice of the workplace – the so-called "goods producing" jobs. You know, where folks actually make things vs. pushing papers or providing services.

In Texas, in 2003-10, there were 1,780 deaths in goods-producing jobs – or 46 percent of the state's total job-related fatalities in the period. That was 32 percent higher than California job deaths in the same period.

But, believe it or not, California has more goods-producing workers than Texas – despite the many manufacturing challenges in the Golden State that sliced California good-producing work by 23 percent in this period. (Meanwhile, Texas job count was flat in 2003-10!)

As for good-producing, job-related deaths -- per equal number of employees, Texas workers are almost twice as likely to get killed than a Californian.

Could Texas goods-producing jobs themselves be more dangerous than the ones in California? So I took one more mathematical step – comparing what's seemingly a rather ubiquitous yet dangerous trade: construction work.

From 2003 to 2010, 999 Texas construction workers died on the job – a quarter of the state's job fatalities and 42 percent more than California.

I never did understand the reasons for keeping it wired open

the truth is, regulation works.

the "war on drugs" also "works."

when you are trimming a very small amount of material the guard makes it difficult.

I would just use a nail to hold the guard up when I needed to do that, then removed it.

Having it up all the time was a hassle because you could not set the saw down without worrying about the blade doing damage.

Meanwhile, the CIA is trafficking drugs all over the USA and the planet to fund their criminal black ops everywhere they go

the reduction in accidental death and injury rates say so

You must think that you are the center of the universe

Abstract
Controversy surrounds occupational health and safety regulators, with some observers claiming that workplace regulations damage firms’ competitiveness and destroy jobs and others arguing that they make workplaces safer at little cost to employers and employees. We analyzed a natural field experiment to examine how workplace safety inspections affected injury rates and other outcomes. We compared 409 randomly inspected establishments in California with 409 matched-control establishments that were eligible, but not chosen, for inspection. Compared with controls, randomly inspected employers experienced a 9.4% decline in injury rates (95% confidence interval = –0.177 to –0.021) and a 26% reduction in injury cost (95% confidence interval = –0.513 to –0.083). We find no evidence that these improvements came at the expense of employment, sales, credit ratings, or firm survival.

I'm saying OSHA has had an impact. You seem to be saying they're worthless.

sufficient tails

Willy: What the hell you need ball bearings for?

Fletch: Awww, come on guys, it's so simple. Maybe you need a refresher course.

Ah, the Nanny State! Ever growing, ever invading, ever seeking to control that which in principle can't be controlled.

Try as you might to "oversee" everything at the federal level, sh|t's still gonna happen. End of story.

t's become a tragic axiom: Whatever the government declares "war" on is going to cost us TONS of money to basically no avail.


How many millions/billions do you want to spend to have (if it is really to be believed) a 9% reduction in, say, carpel tunnel syndrome?

But we already have. The slippery slope reigns supreme.

He was preparing to safeguard the students with a belay rope as they rappelled one-at-a-time off a roughly 120-foot drop slightly below the summit.

But because of a last-minute re-arrangement of climbing teams, Falk found himself one ATC short.

From above, Falk tried to flip the jammed rope and ATC to free them.