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Prezwoodz

climber
Anchorage
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 18, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
I've been gone for a bit..but I'm wondering where all the climbers went? It's all Trump...
EdBannister

Mountain climber
13,000 feet
Feb 18, 2017 - 06:06pm PT
Post something good and positive
ecdh

climber
the east
Feb 18, 2017 - 07:06pm PT
Theyre here. Just not talking about climbing.

Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Feb 18, 2017 - 07:21pm PT
Where have all the climbers gone, long time posting?
Where have all the climbers gone, long time ago?
Where have all the climbers gone?
Young troll have picked them everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?

Where have all the young trolls gone, long time posting?
Where have all the young trolls gone, long time ago?
Where have all the young trolls gone?
Gone for bannings everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?

Where have all the banned ones gone, long time posting?
Where have all the banned ones gone, long time ago?
Where have all the banned ones gone?
Gone to gym climbing everyone
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?

Where have all the gym climbers gone, long time posting?
Where have all the gym climbers, long time ago?
Where have all the gym climbers gone?
Gone bouldering fields, everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?

Where have all the boulderers gone, long time posting?
Where have all the boulderers gone, long time ago?
Where have all the boulderers gone?
Gone to climbers, everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?

Where have all the climbers gone, long time posting?
Where have all the climbers gone, long time ago?
Where have all the climbers gone?
Young trolls have picked them everyone.
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn?
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Feb 18, 2017 - 07:22pm PT
It's ski season.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 18, 2017 - 07:25pm PT
The glaciers ate them.

MikeL

Social climber
Southern Arizona
Feb 18, 2017 - 08:10pm PT
They're getting old.
norm larson

climber
wilson, wyoming
Feb 19, 2017 - 05:13am PT
Like Charlie I've been skiing and not that in to talking about the old days or how fuked our country is.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Feb 19, 2017 - 05:55am PT
I've been gone for a bit...

I feel like Ed Bannister does.

My question is, "WHERE DID YOU GO?"

Tell us and it will help clean the sewers here in Taco City.
Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Feb 19, 2017 - 06:57am PT
I've noticed less climbing and climbers posting here in the few years since I started following and posting on ST. But while climbing posts come and go, the older generations of climbers naturally wanes. I love the format here, but miss the old timers and others who've left here.

I stopped climbing when the pain outweighed the motivation, but the longing never left me. I post here because I still relate to the mindset of the climber's heart, or at least my interpretation of it. This is what I try to convey in some of my poetry and rambling writings.

If You Have To Ask

Among early loves we found
The freedom of the hills
A steadfast lifelong passion
Driving early morning conflicts
Inside our minds
Between love of comfort
And the wildness we have seen

Around every unknown corner
Beyond every new ridge
Across each wide horizon
Around every rising buttress
At the base of every mountain face
Up every icy gully
Along each winding staircase ledge
This strangeness has spurred us

Welding our curiosity
To a dream of what would be
Or undaunted fascination
With the trails, the routes, the cracks, the holds
And unfolding panoramas
Unspeakable or unnamed
To each becomes a choice or calling

A profession, sport, or hobby
To each a chance for
Encounters with perfection
Or chapters to
Inform our mental conversations
And interpretations
Of the natural world

-bushman
02/19/2017
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Feb 19, 2017 - 07:13am PT
My crag is under 10 feet of snow. The skiing on Donner Summit is really good, however.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Feb 19, 2017 - 12:04pm PT
Mouse, we have sewers here? Really? I see it just running down the streets.

On a positive charge, yes climbers are climbing ice and rock right now. Could you call heliskiing, half and half?

I have climbing guests today from out of town. Does this count? May give a TR. Late, lynnie.
Presto

Mountain climber
Vancouver
Feb 19, 2017 - 12:43pm PT
I've always been more lurker than poster, but a new job and a desire to get out and do stuff has kept me almost entirely offline and away from screens the past few months... And I don't miss what I've "given up."
Edge

Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
Feb 19, 2017 - 12:55pm PT
I'm at a point in my life where I look down on Eldorado climbers.
















Well, this morning I did.


neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Feb 19, 2017 - 04:21pm PT
hey there satm prezwoodz... nice to hear from you...

say, jim:

as to this:

Climbers are usually found in the mountainous regions of the world.


ahhh, very good deduction... ;)


i've seen a lot of folks share skiing stories, too, and ice climbing,
so, that sounds about right, too, :)



edit:
mikeL ... HEARD age is detouring, some climbers, too-- that's true...


also, edge:
wow, very nice share, with daughter!



Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 19, 2017 - 04:29pm PT
Let's Keep It As Raw & Natural As We Can.

Upon the Jersey mountains that's where I made my stand
Now lost in Connecticut it's a big small Rock hell.
So upon these chossy blocks is where this climber dwells
The crisp days of spring-time will shortly tell
If there are any other climbers here about
Young, old, strong or not,
there is lots of rock
Will any who don't need it
cleaned & bolted step up?
'Cause where I climb, here, it's not.
that's just how I roll.
Lollie

Social climber
I'm Lolli.
Feb 20, 2017 - 02:14pm PT
That map has a flaw. Norway is white.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Mar 2, 2017 - 10:04am PT
Zinke is an avid outdoorsman, and the department’s home page boasts a large photo of him fly-fishing. His Medium post included a photo of him standing outside Glacier National Park with his wife, Lola. On Thursday he wrote about one of his favorite memories hiking on public lands. He recalled that he suffered a painful mishap while trying to impress his future wife near the military base in California where he was training to become a Navy SEAL.

“I was trying to show off some rock climbing skills I had just picked up training with the SEAL teams, but lost my hold and I broke my ankle,” he wrote. “I did what any guy would do in my situation: I stood up and kept on hiking, surely messing up my ankle a bit more. Lola and I finished the hike and I didn’t collapse in pain, but the bigger accomplishment was I won Lola’s heart.”




PolishClimber

Trad climber
Mar 2, 2017 - 11:11am PT
Supertopo is something like:

10% Good/New Climbing Content and interesting threads
10% Excellent Stories and Trip Reports from the past
20% People screaming at each other over climbing ethics
60% People screaming at each other about politics

This really seems to be the reputation of this site in the community, right or wrong.

I'm not trying to say that politics aren't important, or that ethics aren't important (they both are). And I'm sure there have been some productive and cordial political/ethics threads on this forum, but these are the exception and not the norm. The manner in which things are discussed on this site puts off quite a few climbers who might otherwise join in. Some of you are alienating folks, and the only benefit you get is to vent steam, seemingly without ever REALLY changing anyone's mind on politics. I wonder if it is worth it, or if people should find other more productive and effective outlets to voice their political beliefs. This is directed at BOTH camps.

Just my two cents.

Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 2, 2017 - 11:17am PT

PolishClimber

The statement "60% People screaming at each other about politics" can easily end up in the 60% category. There's a catch to everything, to every single of your statements. If it matters to you, delete this post and post something climbing related. Unless you're a troll, if you're a troll, then you're doing the right thing and will soon have the chance to quarrel with someone over ST politics...
PolishClimber

Trad climber
Mar 2, 2017 - 11:38am PT
Marlow,

I promise you I am not trolling, but I don't feel its necessary to delete my post. I respect your opinion and have no intention of arguing with anyone about anything. Happy climbing unto you.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 2, 2017 - 02:20pm PT
The manner in which things are discussed on this site puts off quite a few climbers who might otherwise join in.

If they're put off by that then how do they have what it takes to climb anything halfway hard?

Mad69Dog

Ice climber
Mar 2, 2017 - 04:14pm PT
I climbed today. My lungs burned on the approach, my fingers whined on the crux and my face is still smiling.
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
The real McCoy from the country
Mar 2, 2017 - 05:36pm PT
Lost in the abyss, man.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Mar 2, 2017 - 05:48pm PT
Climbers? Hopefully they're climbing. Posting on this forum is for posters. You do what you do :-)
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Mar 2, 2017 - 05:51pm PT
zzzz

Maybe they actually have better things to do than type on a forum all day long?
Maybe they're out climbing, or working or travelling? Maybe they have busy lives or they're not bored? Or, maybe, SuperTopo's forum is just so irrelevant to them, they'd rather spend time on Instagram or Facebook or someplace else? I know talking about what climbers do is great and all, but maybe some people want to do what climbers do instead?

And at the end of the day - guess what? No one cares about SuperTopo.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Mar 2, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
I used to climb, but now I don't even post here any more :-)
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Mar 2, 2017 - 06:23pm PT
Fraught with peril! I like the sound of it. Sounds like what real climbers do.

But hopefully, if they're real climbers, they're less than forthcoming because they're climbing. The folks discussing here are more like discussers.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 2, 2017 - 06:26pm PT
Brennan ballcupping Reilly lol.
I guess you guys are numb to the fact that all the bs you guys spew on non climbing threads actually does drive people away-
not out of butthurt but out of....common sense?
i.e. come to a climbing forum, realize it's a political forum, bail.
Maybe you should read what homeboy said, twice.
Or don't.
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Mar 2, 2017 - 06:28pm PT
And at the end of the day - guess what? No one cares about SuperTopo.


But they, and you, post to it.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Mar 2, 2017 - 06:45pm PT
"They're getting old."

SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT???!!!!
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 2, 2017 - 07:11pm PT
Lol!
You can't troll a boulderer that easily!!!
Thanks for the laugh "Brennan"!!!!

Edit: Mountains lol!!!
WBraun

climber
Mar 2, 2017 - 07:17pm PT
drljefe

You are an absolute idiot for sure.

A total fanatic one trick pony.

When I was climbing thousands of feet every day for many many years I hated to talk about climbing.

The minute I was done climbing it was over, I went to the river and sat there till dark watching it flow.

I spent more time at the river than anywhere else.

Blathering about climbing all the time is a total turn off to me.

I used to drive to Fresno all the time just to get away from stoopid climbing fanatics and all their bulllsh!t.

drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 2, 2017 - 07:18pm PT
Love you guys!!!
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Mar 2, 2017 - 07:24pm PT
Yea you're probably right - I don't really get why climbers who prefer climbing content, who want to post climbing content, and read climbing content, and comment on climbing content - why do they get driven away by the climbers with other interests? The ratio of climbing content to non climbing content seems to me to be driven by the behavior of the climbers who post here. If people come here and don't find what they want, it's because the people who come here aren't giving them what they want.

Sure we can have holy wars about what a real climber is and how often you need to climb or how hard you need to climb or whatever to have standing to contribute your two cents to the forum, whether it's the old climbers who are messing it up or the new climbers or the trad climbers or the sport climbers or the boulderers or the pros or whatever, but IMHO part of the charm of the place is that cmac has kept it pretty egalitarian, and it's just driven by the interests and behaviors of the posters.

I wonder re where the climbers have gone - like how many of the people here aren't climbers? Maybe not climbers like you mean climbers, but climbers in a broader sense?

But I expect that this has been discussed as nauseum already, and our discussion is just driving the real climbers (as opposed to the real posters and real discussers) away.

Best to you!
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 2, 2017 - 07:34pm PT
WBraun

climber
Mar 2, 2017 - 09:06pm PT
Here's a real climber and he knows the art of falling and staying alive.

He's a charged up dude.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
drF

Trad climber
usa
Mar 2, 2017 - 09:20pm PT
^^^^^^
Nice one WB...L0L

drljefe is suffering from wanna-be-bearded-narcississt-hipster-boulderer syndrome. Tres ghey

Butt carry on drj. Keep your pad fresh!!
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 2, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
You just wait!
I'm learning trad and am going to take my skills to the great snowy mountains of the world!
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 2, 2017 - 09:53pm PT
Jefe you are an absolute idiot for sure.

The wisest thing I have read on this forum. Now I see why he is posting all these retarded comments.

#trumpinitupbro
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Mar 3, 2017 - 12:37am PT
Its winter, after 5 years of waiting. They are most probably skiing.

Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Mar 3, 2017 - 06:26am PT
drljefe

You are an absolute idiot for sure.

A total fanatic one trick pony.

When I was climbing thousands of feet every day for many many years I hated to talk about climbing.

The minute I was done climbing it was over, I went to the river and sat there till dark watching it flow.

I spent more time at the river than anywhere else.

Blathering about climbing all the time is a total turn off to me.

I used to drive to Fresno all the time just to get away from stoopid climbing fanatics and all their bulllsh!t.

Perfect!

It's common knowledge that Plato Socrates and Aristotle spoke at great length about their sends.

Discussion of politics and religion were to be avoided at all cost.


Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Mar 3, 2017 - 06:48am PT
I'd imagine the overall content of the conversations I have with guys that I climb with are probably similar to the typical daily topics you'd see here.

They tend to be light on climbing and heavy on family, politics, religion, philosophy, Injuries and other interests. I can't think of a time I've heard a recount of an FA, some of which are world class.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 3, 2017 - 08:59am PT
They tend to be light on climbing and heavy on family, politics, religion, philosophy, Injuries and other interests. I can't think of a time I've heard a recount of an FA, some of which are world class.

Did you guys even go climbing bro?
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Mar 3, 2017 - 09:03am PT
No, we passed the talking Stick in-between sweat lodging and self help seminars.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Mar 3, 2017 - 10:46am PT
It's common knowledge that Plato Socrates and Aristotle spoke at great length about their sends.

You may be trying for irony here, but in fact, Socrates was totally wrapped up in his sends. Don't believe me?

Just go to the "Bouldering with Socrates" thread and you'll see...

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=2292857&msg=2292857#msg2292857
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 3, 2017 - 11:15am PT
No, we passed the talking Stick in-between sweat lodging and self help seminars.

That's sick bro. But did you know Jefe is a complete idiot? Do you even drink mate bro? I have been to lee vining a few years ago, but heard the conditions are good now, so I am not sure why the weather in San Francisco is so windy. Glass half full bro!!! Woot woot.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 3, 2017 - 12:29pm PT
You guys are mean. Probably quitting this forum.
Currently looking for mentor for tradding.
Hit me up on instagram.

Later jerks.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 3, 2017 - 12:53pm PT
Ask my friend Albatoss. He has about half of all the First Ascents in Arizona and never told a soul. Would be a good mentor.

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phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Mar 3, 2017 - 01:16pm PT
You guys are mean. Probably quitting this forum.
Currently looking for mentor for tradding.
Hit me up on instagram.

Later jerks.

LOL, Jefe! You can come tradding with me any time! Somehow I don't think I'd be a mentor, more likely a mental.

Hi Prezwoodz! Nice to see your handle again.
The climbers come out of the woodwork to post when Vitaliy posts a new TR or when some BITD or "famous" climber dies.

Other than that it's mostly politics, People being very very mean to each other, and people moaning over other people who got banned.

NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Mar 3, 2017 - 01:27pm PT
Be the change you want to see in the world.

Edit: LOL Brennan, took me a minute to parse saw yerself in half ;)
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Mar 3, 2017 - 02:36pm PT
Vitals-
He has about half of all the First Ascents in Arizona and never told a soul.

Had to of told at least one sole...
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