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Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Feb 6, 2017 - 05:24pm PT
I made a vow to myself that I would never post on a politard thread again. But something that slipped by me (and probably by most of you) when it happened has me breaking my vow.

Among the flood of Executive Directives that insane clown you and/or your fellow citizens elected signed following his inauguration was one restricting new government regulations for 60 days.

No big deal, right? Plenty of regulations in place already, so who needs more?

You, that's who.

Maybe you think of government regulations as a bunch of red tape strangling American initiative. But think about what's preventing the f*#king engine from falling off the wing of whatever airplane you're flying in tomorrow. Or the airplane your son or daughter is flying in.

Yeah, a government regulation, that's what.

The Federal Aviation Administration is among the many agencies that can no longer issue regulations, so that Airworthiness Directive they would have issued yesterday, or next week, about the cracks found in the engine mounts on whatever aircraft can't be issued.

Thank f*#k that the aviation industry and the FAA will continue to cooperate behind that assclown's back.

And if the FAA can't issue new ADs, then I bet the Food and Drug Administration can't, either. Or any other agency.
monolith

climber
state of being
Feb 6, 2017 - 05:29pm PT
Trumps directive to kill two regulations for every one added is silly as well. That gives the impression that all regulations have equal burdens and impact.

http://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2017/1/30/14441430/trump-executive-order-regulations
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Feb 6, 2017 - 05:36pm PT
Ghost is my hero.
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Feb 6, 2017 - 05:55pm PT
I'm wit you Ghost, but am not sure if issuing an AD is issuing a new regulation. The regulations allow the FAA to issue ADs, which are requirements for corrective action to ensure airplanes don't fall out of the skies (or at least try to). The regulation is what allows them to be issued. So an AD is a consequence of the ability to regulate, not the regulation itself.

Having said all that, it's amazing to me how people forget why these regulations came about in the first place. For example the EPA (started by Nixon, for god's sake) was started because it was getting hard to breath in some cities. Mileage and emissions regulations have made a huge difference in the environment and our health. The same for regulations about such things as mercury, asbestos, acid smoke emissions from power plants, nuclear waste, clear cutting, dams, food additives, meat inspection, car crash protection ...... the list is endless.

There was a reason unions were formed, there was a reason financial regulations exist, there are reasons for all this stuff. To expect that 'business' will regulate itself for the good of us all because of the great power of capitalism is just f*#king delusional; all they are concerned about is short term profits. Randian pricks like Ryan are so full of it I'm surprised they don't explode. Ryan was helped in his life by Social Security support after his father died, but wants to deny the same thing to all of us because 'capitalism'. What a bunch of sh#t.

History is a great teacher if we will only listen. And, frankly, the little handed prick in the White House has no knowledge or understanding of history. He doesn't even read books or the 'Presidential' orders he issues. We're f*#ked.

Edited to add: My daughter, who is a professional historical preservationist working for a private company, and I were discussing the Bundy boys take over of federal lands. She proceeded to tell me the history of the BLM; it was formed at the behest of the ranchers, as range wars and over grazing were destroying the land. The ranchers WANTED the BLM because then there would be some rational control of range lands, as opposed to the states controlling the land. The Bundy bunch have no idea this is so and that is the sort of things history can teach us. I shake my head and weep that we survive this sh#t. But I still have my NZ passport.
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Feb 6, 2017 - 05:59pm PT
Try food safety, communicable diseases, on and on- crazy!
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 6, 2017 - 06:07pm PT
Trump just makes things up and then his poor staff has to scramble to make more stuff up to support him. It would be funny if it wasn't so destructive.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/wh-lists-terror-attacks-it-claims-media-ignored/ar-AAmGtvN
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Feb 6, 2017 - 06:33pm PT
In case anyone missed it...

[Click to View YouTube Video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV7eVvph69Y

Good to watch on youtube
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Feb 6, 2017 - 07:19pm PT
Looks like Ghost's comment that Airworthiness Directives, which direct airlines to correct aircraft problems for safety reason, are actually being stopped by Trump's 'Presidential' directives. The FAA say they are trying to keep things safe despite the order:

http://money.cnn.com/2017/02/06/news/companies/trump-faa-air-safety/index.html

What a joke. Thanks Ghost.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 7, 2017 - 06:40am PT
Can't trust the MSM, gotta dig it up yerself
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Feb 7, 2017 - 06:48am PT
Trump just makes things up and then his poor staff has to scramble to make more stuff up to support him. It would be funny if it wasn't so destructive.

Tha makeup of Trump's staff is interesting. Conway, Bannon, Priebus, etc. On the one hand, Trump has carefully chosen people just as delusional as he himself is--on the other hand, nobody competent would consider working for him.

Curt
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:07am PT
The Election was Stolen – Here’s How…


Friday, November 11, 2016
http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/

Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives to elect Republicans at every level of Government.

Starting in 2013 – just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act – a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOP–controlled states.

The system, called Crosscheck,

Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393



What about those exit polls?

Exit polls are the standard by which the US State Department measures the honesty of foreign elections. Exit polling is, historically, deadly accurate. The bane of pre-election polling is that pollsters must adjust for the likelihood of a person voting. Exit polls solve the problem.

But three times in US history, pollsters have had to publicly flagellate themselves for their “errors.” In 2000, exit polls gave Al Gore the win in Florida; in 2004, exit polls gave Kerry the win in Ohio, and now, in swing states, exit polls gave the presidency to Hillary Clinton.

So how could these multi-million-dollar Ph.d-directed statisticians with decades of experience get exit polls so wrong?

Answer: they didn’t. The polls in Florida in 2000 were accurate. That’s because exit pollsters can only ask, “How did you vote?” What they don’t ask, and can’t, is, “Was your vote counted.”

In 2000, in Florida, GOP Secretary of State Katherine Harris officially rejected 181,173 ballots, as “spoiled” because their chads were hung and other nonsense excuses. Those ballots overwhelmingly were marked for Al Gore. The exit polls included those 181,173 people who thought they had voted – but their vote didn’t count. In other words, the exit polls accurately reflected whom the voters chose, not what Katherine Harris chose.

In 2004, a similar number of votes were invalidated (including an enormous pile of “provisional” ballots) by Ohio’s GOP Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell. Again, the polls reflected that Kerry was the choice of 51% of the voters. But the exit polls were “wrong” because they didn’t reflect the ballots invalidated by Blackwell.

Notably, two weeks after the 2004 US election, the US State Department refused the recognize the Ukraine election results because the official polls contradicted the exit polls.

And here we go again. 2016: Hillary wins among those queried as they exit the polling station—yet Trump is declared winner in GOP-controlled swings states. And, once again, the expert pollsters are forced to apologize—when they should be screaming, “Fraud! Here’s the evidence the vote was fixed!”
trailridge127

Trad climber
Loveland, CO
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:09am PT
^^^lol
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:29am PT
Pizzagate is going to blow everything wide open.

All those biblical kid lovers will be exposed!!!

An aside, what the eff is this world coming to? I blame millennials.
dirtbag

climber
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:29am PT
It's all about the money.


Melania's attorneys admit she wants to use position as First Lady to peddle her knicky knackies:

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/melania-trumps-lawyers-admit-she-hoped-to-cash-in-on-being-first-lady-by-selling-clothes-and-fragrances/
kief

Trad climber
east side
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:44am PT


Two of the terrorist attacks "underreported" by the media in the alternative universe of Donald Trump.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Feb 7, 2017 - 07:48am PT
The Duck's daily little Trumpertantrum...

Curt

Thanks for reintroducing "Trumpertantrum".

It's a perfect term for the constant anti-Trump whining.

Trumpertantrums.

LOL
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Feb 7, 2017 - 10:18am PT
Crankster!!

I thought you appreciated the Bill Maher Sam Harris video.

Why would you delete?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Feb 7, 2017 - 10:21am PT
Craig Fry,

why no commentary on the Bill Maher Sam Harris video?

You're a classical liberal - fighting the good fight from the strong left - you should be giving it a Grade A, no?

Aren't all the many points made in the piece solid? What's up?
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Feb 7, 2017 - 10:28am PT
That liberal subset (personalized by Ben Affleck) that refuses to have the backs of reform Muslims, liberal Muslims or ex-Muslims in the face of oppression by fundamentalist Islam, imo, need to either question their awareness, their commitment or else take a remedial class in classical liberal thought.

Silence, obscurantism or obstruction by this subset is shameful.


Trump won for a dozen reasons. Here's one... liberals can't get their act together on multiple fronts, eg, re fundamentalist islam... and FOX and the orange buffoon took advantage of it and made it partisan issue.

And the liberals rolled over...

Hot liberal on hot liberal action...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vln9D81eO60

Get in the game, goddamn it, the issue's too important to just watch
from the sidelines.

If you think Ben Affleck made any sense of afore video, YOU are part of the problem and not the solution for liberal democracy and thought.

There I said my piece.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Feb 7, 2017 - 10:37am PT
Crickets...
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