Bears Ears!

Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch on Wednesday issued a scathing indictment calling Obama's action an "attack on an entire way of life" and an "astonishing and egregious abuse of executive power" that far exceeds the intent of the Antiquities Act.

"In the next Congress under President [Donald] Trump, I will do everything in my power to reverse this travesty," Hatch said.

He said he'll meet with Trump's pick to lead the Interior department, Montana Rep. Ryan Zinke, to discuss reversing the monument, and he and fellow Utah Sen. Mike Lee plan to reintroduce legislation exempting Utah from the Antiquities Act.

"This arrogant act by a lame duck president will not stand," Lee said in a statement. "I will work tirelessly with Congress and the incoming Trump administration to honor the will of the people of Utah and undo this designation."

More land for the park service to maintain

Obama has now designated over 553 million acres as "Monument" under the Antiquities Act far exceeding all presidents

I'm like you Fritz, mixed emotions. Protections are needed but the notoriety that comes with designation is problematic. Remarkable area. In the end if it pisses off the Utah legislation I will tend toward supporting it, as they are all a bunch of asshats, every single one of them. And stick a stick up your pud, pud.

Obama has now designated over 553 million acres as "Monument" under the Antiquities Act far exceeding all presidents combined...

I think you guys don't understand the ramifications of these designations.

Lol, from a trump voter

He's all yours. You elected that con man.

Actually, the people didn't elect him. Our apartheid system of government did.

So again I'll ask, are we justified in doing whatever we want with the land (basically social Darwinism) or do we have any obligation to honor the Native American people that live there?

Sore loser

Again I ask -- Do you think we as a people, or our government owes anything to the Native American tribes in this region?

Respect, but nothing else. The concept of "hallowed burial grounds" seems as silly with everyone else, as it does with them.

Respect, but nothing else. The concept of "hallowed burial grounds" seems as silly with everyone else, as it does with them.

Way to go last president of America before the grand kleptocracy of disfunction and abuse.

Elected San Juan County leaders have been nearly unanimous in their opposition to a monument, arguing it would stymie public access and disrupt traditional uses. Congressman Rob Bishop, R-Utah, and many other state leaders claimed a monument "unilaterally" established through executive decree — under the 1906 Antiquities Act — would disenfranchise local sentiment and perpetuate conflict over use of public lands.

Bishop, chairman of the House Natural Resources Committee, has already met president-elect Donald Trump's transition team, asking him to revoke large-scale monuments that Obama designated even though local leaders opposed them.

Bishop and Rep. Jason Chaffetz have sponsored legislation attempting to preserve critical lands in the Bears Ears area without designating the area as a national monument.

pendulum has swung too far to conservation

If the US locks the lands shut to mining, ranching, drilling; we will still need those resources to exist as a modern society. Should we just import that stuff and let other countries rape their lands so we can enjoy ours?

If the US locks the lands shut to mining, ranching, drilling; we will still need those resources to exist as a modern society.

Ranchers on federal land pay both grazing fees and income tax to produce FOOD for you.

So Ken, the only thing we owe blacks is respect?
How about the Japanese internees?

the indians were at war with the United States.

In any other war in history, they'd have simply been eradicated

The indians have the burden of assimilation into America, same as the polish, the Italians, the Mexican-Americans, and the rest. There comes a point where that needs to be the priority, not living in the past.

I don't doubt that the American Indian got a raw deal. Nor do I doubt that they are starting on a starting line far back of the pack, and that is unfair.

However, when they choose to identify as a separate nation, as they often do, then I think of them like Canada or Mexico

Trump’s order reportedly will instruct Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke to examine those designations to determine whether they were within the scope of a century-old law that allows presidents to set aside federal lands without congressional approval.

Every day that goes by it becomes more and more clear that Trump is nothing more than a shill for industry and the wealthy. Whereas he previously argued he was just interested in jobs, the credibility of that claim has all but evaporated. Pity that the deluded still don't see that. I guess it's hard to admit that you f-

And yet, in a newly released poll, 96% of his supporters would vote for him again.

the United States was not at war with the blacks or japanese-AMERICAN internees at any time.

the indians were at war with the United States. In any other war in history, they'd have simply been eradicated.

The indians have the burden of assimilation into America, same as the polish, the Italians, the Mexican-Americans, and the rest. There comes a point where that needs to be the priority, not living in the past.

I don't doubt that the American Indian got a raw deal. Nor do I doubt that they are starting on a starting line far back of the pack, and that is unfair.

However, when they choose to identify as a separate nation, as they often do, then I think of them like Canada or Mexico.

the United States was not at war with the blacks or japanese-AMERICAN internees at any time.

the indians were at war with the United States. In any other war in history, they'd have simply been eradicated.

The indians have the burden of assimilation into America, same as the polish, the Italians, the Mexican-Americans, and the rest. There comes a point where that needs to be the priority, not living in the past.

I don't doubt that the American Indian got a raw deal. Nor do I doubt that they are starting on a starting line far back of the pack, and that is unfair.

However, when they choose to identify as a separate nation, as they often do, then I think of them like Canada or Mexico.

Liberals can do the handwringing, but some indians today are doing ok even without casinos. If they wanted a NM designation it is likely that they have tourist dollar signs in their eyes.

The best way to protect an area is often to keep quiet about them. It worked in the Tusher Mountains,.......... oh dratt, I blew it!

the United States was not at war with the blacks or japanese-AMERICAN internees at any time.

the indians were at war with the United States. In any other war in history, they'd have simply been eradicated.

The indians have the burden of assimilation into America, same as the polish, the Italians, the Mexican-Americans, and the rest. There comes a point where that needs to be the priority, not living in the past.

I don't doubt that the American Indian got a raw deal. Nor do I doubt that they are starting on a starting line far back of the pack, and that is unfair.

However, when they choose to identify as a separate nation, as they often do, then I think of them like Canada or Mexico.

What a bunch of ignorant racist tripe.

the indians were at war with the United States. In any other war in history, they'd have simply been eradicated.

The indians have the burden of assimilation into America, same as the polish, the Italians, the Mexican-Americans, and the rest. There comes a point where that needs to be the priority, not living in the past.

I don't doubt that the American Indian got a raw deal. Nor do I doubt that they are starting on a starting line far back of the pack, and that is unfair.

However, when they choose to identify as a separate nation, as they often do, then I think of them like Canada or Mexico.

However, when they choose as a separation nation, as they often do, then I think of them like Canada or Mexico

If the US locks the lands shut to mining, ranching, drilling; we will still need those resources to exist as a modern society. Should we just import that stuff and let other countries rape their lands so we can enjoy ours?

Well, looks like all the Trump lovers like myself will be boycotting Patagucci!

The new Bears Ears National Monument stands as a testimony to the collaboration between diverse groups, from an unprecedented coalition of Native American tribes to dedicated government employees. If the monument is reduced or rescinded because of lies broadcast by Hatch and the Utah delegation, the real losers will be the American people — especially Native Americans to whom this region is more than a place to seek beauty and solitude. It's a place of ancestral connection and continuity. For it to be destroyed by deceitful politicians would be a heartbreaking travesty

Is that the hotel ruin?

On February 3, 2017, Utah Governor Herbert signed a resolution passed by the Utah legislature asking President Trump to rescind the designation of Bears Ears as a National Monument. There is uncertainty about the authority for a president to rescind a monument designated under the Antiquities Act, as it has never been done before.[16] On February 7, the outdoor clothing company Patagonia announced that it would not be attending the Outdoor Retailer Market in Salt Lake City in 2017 or subsequent years due to the Utah government's opposition to Bears Ears. Patagonia urged other retailers to join it in moving to a state that "values our industry and promotes public land conservation."[17] On February 16, the Outdoor Retailer Market announced that, after talking to the Governor, it would no longer schedule its annual trade show in Utah (as it has done for 20 years) due to the Utah government's opposition to Bears Ears National Monument.[18] The Outdoor Retailer show has 50,000 visitors and generates $45 million in local spending annually.[19]

After the pullout from Utah, Colorado attempted to become the host of upcoming Outdoor Retailer shows. The organization Colorado Conservation put advertisements in Utah papers stating, "We have stronger beer. We have taller peaks. We have higher recreation. But most of all we love our public lands."[19]

On February 21, 2017, the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance announced that it will begin a statewide television advertisement campaign to build support for Bears Ears National Monument.[20]

I'm personally in favor of removing cattle operations from the the new Monument

WASHINGTON — The Senate has approved a bill that revives a popular conservation program, adds a million acres of new wilderness, expands several national parks and creates four new national monuments.

The massive measure combines more than 100 public-lands bills that add more than 350 miles of wild and scenic rivers and 2,600 miles of federal trails. It designates nearly 700,000 acres of new recreation and conservation areas. The bill also withdraws 370,000 acres in Montana and Washington state from mineral development.

The Senate approved the bill, 92-8, sending it to the House.

The bill permanently reauthorizes the federal Land and Water Conservation Fund, which supports conservation and outdoor recreation projects across the country. The program expired last fall after Congress could not agree on language to extend it