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skitch
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Bend Or
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 5, 2016 - 08:27am PT
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I've smoked a handful of times in my life. I've always been a bit scared to become a regular, but now that the legal issues are mostly removed I think I would like to "get into" smoking regularly. I have rarely enjoyed drinking too much, but the few times that Ive smoked enough to get stoned I've really enjoyed the experience. I don't have any close friends that regularly smoke, but I think a few of you enjoy the devil weed.
There is still a lot of stigma associated with weed where I live, so I'd like to avoid a physical head shop. I'm 90% sure that I know someone I can acquire good quality product from.
I've tried to search the Internet for good resources on the subject, but they seem to expect that I'd know a lot more about the subject. What I've learned so far is paraphanelia is expensive, vaporizers supposedly produce a shorter lasting high. Joints and pipes cause really hot smoke to "burn" lungs. Bongs are expensive and there are 3,678,238 different types that do a lot to cool the smoke.
I'm thinking I will buy some type of $50 bong for home use and some type of pipe for camping trips. What do you think I should look at? What the heck is a grinder and kief used for? Is there a way to smoke a joint or pipe without burning your lungs?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Don't feed 'em!
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2016 - 09:31am PT
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NOt sure why you think I'm trolling. I believed in Christianity when I was in high school and the Air Force. By the time I quit believing that "stuff" I was still in the AF Reserves, so I was worried about drug testing, then while I was in college I stayed clean to ensure I could pass any drug test if a job came up. Over the last couple of years I've taken a hit or three from friends pipes...I now live in California and weed was just legalized in-state. I have a job where I don't need to worry about getting drug tested as long as I don't go to work stoned.
Sorry if I thought you would like to help me with my foray into this...I just want to avoid damaging my lungs more than necessary. I'm also hoping that a little weed here and there will help with anxiety/depression issues.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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sub'd.
at some point I will try it out to deal with increasingly suspect knees. don't want to deal with opiates or surgery.
I guess brownies are the way to go, more than smoking
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canyoncat
Social climber
SoCal
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THC may help with anxiety, but I don't recommend it as a treatment for depression. You should discuss with your Doctor (most doctors are cool with a rational discussion in Cali).
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 5, 2016 - 10:44am PT
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From bend, but now in CA. Never thought I'd live in CA, but that's where the job was.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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'Some of us" smoke regularly.
4:20 comes and goes
by that time I have the slows
dawnbreaker, dawnbraker,
make my day, smokin' that first day of the jay
--THC Hocking
see? there are few lasting ill effects as any major smokin' dude will tell you
a few tips for the n00b smoker:
do not drink bong-water, ever
do not let your pets drink bong-water, either
share what you have -- it generally gets returned in kind by cool peeps
do not hold stash in federal jurisdictions without being super-cool
not all climbers smoke weed, but you know that
always go for the cheapest possible deal, which means buying "in bulk" if you can
stick with one supplier if possible, but be open to good deals from good friends
clean your bong regularly -- ask your bong-dealer
repeat: do not ever drink bong-water
spend time learning to roll fatties -- your friends will be mightily impressed
only climb while stoned with others who are high as well
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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But they won't...
Hahaha. Yeah right. Just like they won't bust people for state-based gun laws that are still Federally Illegal.
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kaholatingtong
Trad climber
The real McCoy from The City
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Clean your glass often, you will enjoy it more. Hot rubbing alcohol should be all you need. If its real bad add epsom salt ( the large grain kind ) into the mixture to shake around. No need to buy the expensive fancy cleaners.
Every different way you ingest will effect you differently. So you should try them all and see what they work best for. Edibles and vaporizing are the healthiest, with the lack of actual "smoke" entering the lungs, but the highs are all different. Edibles will last a bit longer and be more physically felt in the body. Smoking definitely gives the flavor differently, and better in my opinion. But all for you to try and decide for yourself.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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To me, vaporizing is the equivalent to taking Nodoze instead of drinking coffee...
Similar results...
but big time loss of flavor...
I have the oppposite reaction
When vaping I can really taste the terpines and flavors
a lighter in a bowl nukes the flavors
what vape are you using?
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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http://f*#kcombustion.com
Edibles last 8 hrs dont take too much.
Smoke/vape last about an hour or two. Intense for about 15 min.
Don't dab right away if the other methods are intense for you.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
Dec 5, 2016 - 11:24am PT
But they won't...
Hahaha. Yeah right. Just like they won't bust people for state-based gun laws that are still Federally Illegal.
Good Grief!
Everything is about the durn statists and their oppressive gun laws with you. Get a life dude.
Go back to practicing your self fellatio. You're more likable when you have your binky in place.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Locker, you realize that the Feds are already interfering right?
I realize that it sounds completely logical that the Feds wouldn't bother about some dude smoking in his living room, and for the most part you are right, they don't.
But let's not lose sight of the reality that dude smokes in his living room only under the whim and leisure of federal agents.
Even if "F" can't wrap his head around it, the parallels between state pot legalization and certain state gun legalization are spot on.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Sorry if I thought you would like to help me with my foray into this...I just want to avoid damaging my lungs more than necessary
Modern strains of pot are really strong. If you are only an occasional smoker, you won't need much. Probably just a single hit.
Unless you really get into it, I don't think damaging your lungs is really a concern.
A bong or vaporizer might be easier on the throat.
If you are buying from "somebody you know" I don't what your options are. But I would suggest you get one of the pens. For $30 you can a vaporizer that is the same technology that is used for ecigarettes. You have to buy a cartridge but they will last an occasional smoker a long term. For an occasional smoker, one small hit is probably all you need.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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TCH may help with anxiety
I've had roommates who were quite anxious and obnoxious when they didn't have THC, and the THC certainly smoothed out their personalities, but apparently it's not effective for dyslexia.
In terms of bong costs... seems silly to me.I went through an "experimental" phase in 7th grade and made a bong with about 30 minutes of unskilled labor. Start with a glass bottle, drill a hole in the side, stick the outer part of a ball point pen into the hole so it is submerged below the level of liquid to be filled in the bottle. Use some tin foil to make a bowl on the end of the pen.
I only inhaled in the darn thing once, enough to figure out that inhaling smoke feels terrible. Managed to smoke about 2 more times in college, but pretty much figured out I can be as wacky as I want without needing to resort to aid like other people.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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At anytime, because it remains Federally illegal, they can step in and start the sh!tting...
Exactly, and just because they aren't shitting on you is not evidence of the lack of defecation.....
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Personally, I've got way more things to worry about.
Personally, I think you may have had a bit too much today to engage in thoughtful conversation.
Just because they aren't shitting on YOU, doesn't mean they aren't shitting on SOMEONE.
Everyone thinks they won't get shat upon, until they are.
Fear not, the odds are in your favor....
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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Zzzzzzzzzz
No one cares if pot becomes illegal again. It'll be just like it was.
Edit: Doesn't even compare to firearm control.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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When things look likely this you've done to much ya lucky bloke
Some smoke smoke.
But if you are depressed this will not help that much with that
It will help you sleep, and eat but not feel happier
That's a thing ,that needs fixing
internally
Happiness needs redemption,
from the inside out
for the real smile to be great
I've never really seen the stoner humor as all that funny!
these next two have had Some stoners in stitches ( I'm not sure I get it )
Sponge Bob Angry mug with the loud lyric .to loud for what!?
[youtube=http so://youtu.be/VJ_SqUVCFzw]
And the Sponge Bob does 'Up Town Funk'
, is some how disturbingly dis-jointed and alarmingly tone-deaf.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Any way everything in moderation a carful controlled Safe environment especially for
Edibles. Try to find some bunk or Jamaican / Tex/Mex, mellow gárde
to be able to be able to pick gag-zooks among the high grade Nugz.
when the mission comes along.
Good to have you willing to look open minded ly at 'stupid stoner' things.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Like I said, the odds are good that the someone won't be you.....until it is.
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brotherbbock
climber
Alta Loma, CA
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The newest thing out now boys is called Moonrocks!!!
Moonrocks are high grade nuggets of weed dipped in hash oil then rolled in kief!!!
Send ya to the moon!!!
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I rise to the level of my competition....
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Twentieth!
The links as to what we might expect from a. pencerump COD piece , what will be the
stand of an administration that is run by FACIST's? How might, the Attorney General respond?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/09/what-the-future-of-marijuana-legalization-could-look-like-under-president-trump/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.f1984f0108da
I've not read it, others though, I have.
I feel strongly that, as in the Riech, if you pay for it through the channels, so it is all above
board, a catalogued transaction. Drugs will be available, legally.
That takes a very vocal and large portion of society,
brings to the support of the regime and feeds their, that users group, needs.
By giving the double message Barry left us hangin'
The full throated support of the highest form of control,
grubby hands of guberment
A whole new branch,
G ood. O ld P arty run money generating D rug E ncouragement, D epartment.
gain that segments support, and it is an easily controlled group.
But the articles I read all project various bias ~ such as to the Dollar genii, the very much avalanche like nature of stopping the industry that has already begun to support and supply
The Green Gold rush.
I'm jealous easily and sorry tha t I m not able to to partake in the opportunities.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/18/trumps-pick-for-attorney-general-good-people-dont-smoke-marijuana/?utm_term=.dd821b526d0b
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crackfiend
climber
Springdale, Utah
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Welcome to the club!!!
As a newbie I would recomend an oil cartridge pen similar to a cigarette. Good taste and very easy on the lungs, plus they dont smell at all. You do need to get these at a pot store though.
As far as federal involvement goes I would say there is currently no noticeable federal involvement in states that currently have legal recreational markets or medical programs.
I live in the SW corner of Oregon and the cannabis industry here, including the legal, grey and black markets are thriving. In my county there are over 2,000 registered medical marijuana growsites and since the state does no enforcement regarding plant count limits and whether a property with a 8 ft wooden fence actually has medical cards for the platnts inside, the number of active growsites has boomed in the last 5 years. There is no law enforcement presence and it definately has a lawless wild west vibe, people are pretty much doing whatever the hell they want.
As for as what will happen with the new administration? I give it 50-50 odds there is recreational marijuana allowed and hopefully the state medical programs remain intact, time will tell.
Here are some pics I took from a flyover in my friends Cesena during the middle of summer.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Here in southern Colorado the FBI, DEA, ATF and local LE have a task force going after illegal grows, particularly in suburban houses. A lot of outside criminality moved in with legalization. Have fun, CA.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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purple hash
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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I would assume that is the same for many (most???) areas of ILLEGAL growing...
Illegal considering state law or federal law?
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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In southern Colorado there was a surge of illegal activity after recreational pot was approved. There were something like fifteen raids on houses this past spring just in the community of 35,000 where I live. Cubans, Russians, Mexicans, etc. using the cover of legalization to grow product and ship it out of state in U-hauls, etc. Also increased street crime in Pueblo, ten miles away. There's a multi-organizational task force working there, also.
I hope these syndicates and groups move to California and out of our back yard.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Now that weed is legal I can safely assume that half the drivers on the road are incompetent,
half are drunk, and the other half are stoned?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Now that weed is legal I can safely assume that half the drivers on the road are incompetent,
half are drunk, and the other half are stoned?
And the other half are staring down at their various i-thingies furiously updating their "social networks". Not paying attention probably kills more peo.... hang on... going through a tunnel......
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2016 - 11:37am PT
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Am I missing something, does it state somewhere that you have to be stoned to comment on this thread?
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Inner City
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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Werner equals sun
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
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Picked up a lil something last night, made a homemade Gatorade/Wilfred style bong and got knocked on my ass! Felt like I was looking through a curved lens, time was totally a bizarre feeling.
I felt fine this morning, but around lunch time I felt really light headed and more stupid than usual...is that common?
I ordered a small 4.5mm thick bong and a glass spoon from an online headshop and a multi chamber grinder via Amazon.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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I'm unsure how they stay in business. They're everywhere! $5/gram.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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I hope your NIMBY sentiment repays you deservedly
;>)
When everyone can grow a certain amount of pot at home, the pros move into the neighborhood, buy houses, then hope to get lost in the crowd. It's their neighbors who complain about odors, mold growing on exterior walls, fancy electrical apparatus, etc. who alert the cops. You'll see.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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When everyone can grow a certain amount of pot at home, the pros move into the neighborhood, buy houses, then hope to get lost in the crowd. It's their neighbors who complain about odors, mold growing on exterior walls, fancy electrical apparatus, etc. who alert the cops. You'll see.
jgill,
I'm sorry to hear you've had unpleasant experiences with (state-law) legal weed in Colorado. That hasn't been my experience of the experience of anyone I know in Boulder or Denver, but what can you say, we all have our own experiences.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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To the OP
Looks like you're well on your way to becoming a stoner.
As far as the next day, I've never had a "stone over" but my friends have that don't puff as much. THC is my blood type though.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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THC is my blood type though.
I'm stealing that quote.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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You come across as a little on the paranoid side...
also a bit of a "Conspiracy theorist" type...
Just now seeing this. Hahaha, so its now a conspiracy to point out the obvious conflicts arising from something that is legal at the state level yet remains illegal at the Federal level?
Which, despite the ignorance of some of the retards on here, is EXACTLY what has happened in the case of several different states gun control legislation (or lack thereof). Particularly around NFA items.
But I assure you, its not paranoia but rather fact that even in states where its made legal, you smoke at the convenience of federal agents who have bigger fish to fry......at the moment.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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Hey I have a retarded friend.
F uck you!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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You're, not your.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Hey I have a retarded friend.
So does your friend.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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So does Jebus' friends apparently.....
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2016 - 11:57am PT
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Can you fcuk on weed without blowing your load in 2.5 thrusts?
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Your "at the moment" is going back to that paranoia I was mentioning...
So its paranoid to think that the federal government might enforce one of their laws? They enforce their laws all the time, why is it paranoid to think they might enforce that one?
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Actually there might be some upside to the Feds trying to prosecute millions of every day users.
Like a backlash that would finally get Federal law changed.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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^^^^^^
Es no pito is funny!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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This is only a mold. Do not ingest mold.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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jgill, I'm sorry to hear you've had unpleasant experiences with (state-law) legal weed in Colorado. That hasn't been my experience of the experience of anyone I know in Boulder or Denver
Pueblo West is a prairie community of about 35,000, ten miles from Pueblo. I live in the western part, where lots are typically 2.5 acres, so the homes are scattered and many of us don't socialize with our neighbors, although we are friendly and supportive when required. So it's easier for the illegal outfits to buy a house, move in and convert it to production of weed for export outside the state. Nobody pays much attention until what they are doing becomes obvious. Then the LE teams come in and arrest a few, perhaps, and turn the others out . . . and for the growers the process is profitable since house prices here in PW are I would guess one half of what they are in your neck of the woods. So, losing a house that cost $160K and is being purchased possibly through a mortgage after running the illegal business is a big financial positive. There has been virtually no violence associated with the growers or the LE agents.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2016 - 09:01pm PT
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Is the first time to get super high hard to replicate! I've smoked a little bit more than the first night each night and I don't get the same psychadelic feeling as the first.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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no you just switch to harder drugs each time
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F
climber
away from the ground
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A bong load of hash topped with .5 grams of Salvia will get you to where you want to be.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2016 - 09:58pm PT
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Is heroin very good?
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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i think you already took the red pill.
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Killer K
Boulder climber
Sacramento, CA
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F-
How do you weigh .5 grams of saliva?
Edit: Ha! Salvia. I need glasses. And they say weed helps glaucoma...
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Is the first time to get super high hard to replicate! I've smoked a little bit more than the first night each night and I don't get the same psychadelic feeling as the first.
You do get used to it and more functional (just like alcohol). Why some people can even, gasp, do hard rock climbs on it.
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Is heroin very good?
Heroin seems to be the drug of choice for either: really depressed people or people that got addicted to prescription painkillers.
Maybe try mushrooms.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 10, 2016 - 09:30am PT
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Today's LA Times obit of Rashaan Salaam, the '94 Heisman winner, quotes him as saying getting addicted to weed ruined his NFL career by making him lackadaisical and not able to hold onto the ball.
Police officers who entered the Boise Airport air traffic control tower Nov 19
after pilots could not reach controllers by radio Nov. 19 found one controller had fallen asleep and a second one had left the tower and smelled of marijuana, according to reports released Friday afternoon by the Boise Police Department.
Hey, don't shoot the messenger, mkay?
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 10, 2016 - 10:08am PT
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I definitely want to try mushrooms.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2016 - 10:52am PT
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So now that I've smoked a few nights throughout the last week I've developed what feels like a permanent buzz, like I've just drank 2 beers on an empty stomach. My head is definitely more in the clouds than normal, which has some positive and negative effects. Will this go away, or is this why every stoner I know so withdrawn when they aren't high?
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2016 - 11:06am PT
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Are you calling me a 1 percent-er?
Maybe it isn't the weed, I also have a staff infection in my knee as we "speak". Maybe it's eating my little brain?
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2016 - 11:14am PT
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What do mean? Trump is just like us.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Dec 12, 2016 - 09:18pm PT
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