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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Those folks need to build A WALL lol. Stupid AL PACK ers. Invasive Packers do not belong here.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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There were 245 permits to kill issued statewide last year of which 105 were 'successful'.
Maybe there are too many lions because there are too many deer feeding on over-watered
suburban landscaping? I won't stoop to address the issue of too many retards raising alpacas
inadequately fenced at night.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Put one of these in with the Alpaca.
Problem solved.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Wow, pyro, and I actually agree on something.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Pyro has had an awakening...He's joined the P-45 drum circle...My head feels like it's going to explode....
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Pyro has had an awakening...He's joined the P-45 drum circle...My head feels like it's going to explode....
Hahahaha
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Alpaca are not indigenous to that area. ( said with English accent) Cats are!
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c wilmot
climber
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Let it be. It's perfectly natural behavior for a predator to kill multiple prey at once. Just because it made a "surplus kill" doesn't mean it needs to be euthanized.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Arm them Alpackers with semi-automatic assault weapons and 10,000 rounds. Peace will gently descend on the neighborhood. The NRA told me so
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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For one lion to kill 10 large pack animals in one night? Sounds like the lion might be packin' already.
Geez... I bet there's a lot more than one lion doing the work.
Anyone ever had alpaca burgers? They must be delicious.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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"Anyone ever had alpaca burgers?"
I'd be lion to say I have.
( apologies to Mighty Hiker, for working his room )
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Donkeys don't run. I don't know if they can't, or if they just don't ever feel like it. So in a fight-or-flight situation, "flight" is low on their option list.
Their legendary stubbornness makes "fight" plan-A. Mountain lions are chickens, when you get right down to it, and aren't looking for a fight, especially with something that will not back down and is a hell of a lot bigger than it is.
And they're loud, too.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Pet reduction, especially on a masssive scale, is a noble pursuit that should be rewarded.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Pet reduction, especially on a masssive scale, is a noble pursuit that should be rewarded.
Couldn't agree more, when do we get to start shooting ditch cougars?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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And Donini hits another one out of the park, go Cubs!
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Barbarian
climber
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The problem might be raising alpaca in mountain lion habitat.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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You think
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Pet reduction, especially on a masssive scale, is a noble pursuit that should be rewarded.
I would argue that people reduction is more critical at this point.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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I would argue that people reduction is more critical at this point.
Maybe start with Alpaca owners?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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"I would argue that people reduction is more critical at this point."
Be patient. Wait until next month. President Trump intends to trap and relocate a whole bunch of people.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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It is a human problem not lion problem, stupid Americans!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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WWJD?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Brandon, you left off a 'D' at the end.
What Would Jim Donini Do? I know he's already chimed in but talk is cheap.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Cougars are always attacking me.
I often let them.
Beware of Canadian cougars, as they are exceptionally dangerous:
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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WWJD?
S....S....S
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couchmaster
climber
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Oh sure...first the Lions came for the Alpacas, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Alpaca.
Then they came for the Llamas, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Llama.
Then they came for the cows, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a cow.
Then they came for me—as there was no food left, those F***ing Lions had already eaten all the dogs, cats, goats and Guinea Pigs.
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couchmaster
climber
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Besides, the woman who pulled the permit says she won't kill it now. http://www.dailynews.com/environment-and-nature/20161201/rancher-says-she-will-not-kill-mountain-lion
Smart lady quoted: "“The point was never to kill the animal,” said Victoria Vaughn-Perling during a late morning news conference at her Malibu hills ranch home, with a backdrop of more than a dozen alpaca spared by the cat” but to call attention to the issue and “try to get it relocated.” “I’m not looking for revenge for my alpaca,” she added. Vaughn-Perling, who uses the fur of the alpaca to make scarves, lost 10 of her alpaca on her property in a mountain lion attack Saturday — the fourth such attack on the animals since November of last year, she said."...
She's a better person than I. I'd be looking for sweet sweet revenge for sure! That f*#ker would be dead faster than any of you Californians could say "double shot skim soy latte" if that was Couchmasters livestock being repeatedly ravaged...
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Go up against a lion without one of your firearms and see who is the fittest. It's not an even playing field but, no worries....other life forms will occupy the earth long after we are gone.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Yet Ruth Gomez, who raised alpacas at her eight-acre Malibu ranch for nearly two decades before selling her last one this week, said she never had lions invade. To ward off predators, she used larger llamas as guardians, along with a pack of loud, powerful dogs and motion-sensing lights.
“We know that the cougars like to hunt in stealth, so we made it noisy and bright,” Gomez, 73, said. “We would never kill a cougar. That’s stupid.”
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Owner caved into NOT wanting to kill P45..
Publicly.....Fish and Game will be along shortly.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2016 - 06:58am PT
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Look how poor protected this pin is no wonder Da cat jumped inside
Donkeys are bad ass!
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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God, this is funny.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Maybe you could have a two for one. Call in the Mt Lion and Woot Boi to have a meeting and see if you can get them both to listen to reason and stop their foolishness.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Dogs do a pretty good job. Some dogs. Lions don't want problems they just want to live their lives & be left alone. If they see two large dogs that work together they are going somewhere else.
Donkeys are bad a##.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Slightly off topic. While I support all the wolves, and mountain lions, there is a problem in the Santa Monicas. The lions are in a relatively confined area. That's why P-22 left. There is a serious problem of inbreeding.
The NPS says they can't move the lions. I don't buy that. There is talk of building an animal bridge over the 101 near Liberty Canyon. So what's the difference if the lions use the bridge and disperse on their own, or if the NPS moves them?
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Moving large animals almost always turns out bad. That's why they have outlawed it in most places.
Tied up dogs aren't able to work together. How could you even equate the two.
Dogs that protect need to be free to do there work, like the Great Pyrenees above.
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Why don't they make the wildlife bridge on the 101 wide enough for a lion trap? Problem solved people.
What would make more sense to me is if we let wild land fuels build up for fifty more years.
Cats can run from the firestorm, homes can't.
Meanwhile, over the past fifty years, urban planners will have made urban centers desirable for families, with open spaces and sh#t.
Then, after the firestorms, people will gradually migrate back to the city centers, leaving the cats with more space.
There, two solutions. You're welcome.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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The Basque sheepherders on the eastside use donkeys..Donkeys also keep ravens away ...My neighbor had a great pyrhenee to protect his llama herd...Never lost any llamas...Recently a big cat mauled the neighbors dog then killed a llama.. A neighbor got a permit and shot the cat...Next night the other llama got whacked...Neighbor got another permit and bagged the 2nd lion...
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Which is more tasty...llama or alpaca? I'm headed out in a bit....
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Guanaco is better than either.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Didn't Obama close that down...?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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HaHaHa! Gud one, but even I couldn't eat a whole naval base!
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