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zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 15, 2016 - 12:46pm PT
I am documenting my 1st set of every workout on my journey to full planche and one arm chin up. I know this isn't specifically related to climbing, but I believe there are quite a few people out there interested in the one arm chin up who climb. I hope to have 3 one arm chin ups and a 9 second full planche by the end of 2017 and I'm posting 3 workouts every week with my progress and form improvement. I would enjoy to have an open conversation with anyone interested in these two difficult exercises and how you are progressing as well as hear any questions you may have about my journey. When I started this journey I could do about 15 chin ups and a 15 second tuck planche (0 seconds with hands facing backwards). I am using resistance bands for both exercises and currently using 58lbs of assistance with the intent to drop about 1lb per week on average in order to meet my goal. Check out today's workout below and if you're interested subscribe to follow me on my journey!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-pbVpdp1Eo
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 15, 2016 - 12:51pm PT
What is a planche, is it similar to a leppo?

Thank god for YouTube

[Click to View YouTube Video]
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
You nailed it! It's also in my video.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 15, 2016 - 01:29pm PT
When I was at Berkeley, one of my favorite people at Indian Rock was a retired blacksmith named Bruce Cooke. Higgins named the Booke Book route on DAFF dome for him.

When I met Bruce in 1969, the hair on his chest was already white, but he could still do six one-arm pull ups with each arm, and had something left after that. My theory was that his tendons must have taken shortcuts to give him a mechanical advantage, because he was rather wiry rather than bulky.

Boy, do I miss him.

John

Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 15, 2016 - 02:27pm PT
I was fairly strong (for my weight) when I was young (early thirties) and decided to build one-arm pull-up strength. Turned out to be fairly easy, and before long I could do half a dozen with either arm.

Then I couldn't do any. All those one-arms severely trashed one of my shoulders. Tendinitis and bursitis that took over a year to heal.

So take it slow and easy.
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Nov 15, 2016 - 03:17pm PT
Zach, good to see a post here on bodyweight exercises. Going on 80 I have gotten back to pull-ups and traverses on the horizontal ladder after losing it all recuperating from a spinal deterioration attack last year. Keep up the efforts!
couchmaster

climber
Nov 15, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
The master^^^ has spoken, good on you for having goals zack. That and staying healthy, no injuries is usually the hardest part of the journey. Seriously! Good luck and I look forward to your updates.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Nov 15, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
Yeah, good to hear you are back John. I thought you were a goner! A goner pull-up-wise that is....LOL. I was walking around our lake/park last week and decided to do a chin-up just for the heck of it. I was completely successful! I don't do them at all anymore because of various shoulder injuries from road rage and the like.

And about those one arms: I found it easy to build up to them when I was young (late teens - early twenties). So yeah, no need to overdo it at first. I have always been a big believer in rest and recovery and it never hurt my shoulders. I used a bit of a different method - the one were you hang onto the elastic cord with one hand. One hand is on the bar and one is on the cord that hangs from the bar. You just gradually move the hand down the cord during subsequent workouts until in the end you hang onto the un-weighted cord for just psychological support.

Saw this today - could be good for old folks: https://www.facebook.com/toughmudder/videos/10154663403687790/
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Nov 15, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]

Add some cardio!
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Nov 16, 2016 - 08:05am PT
Somebody should post classic Gill photos for inspiration.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 16, 2016 - 09:36am PT
John Gill from the internets


mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Nov 16, 2016 - 11:46am PT
Hand raised. For me, Ament's "Master of Rock" was the source. Must have read it when I was 13 or so. It inspired my early efforts bouldering in the Tetons and Winds with my clodhopper mountaineering boots.

Watch out for injuries. As I write this, the shoulder of my strong arm is bothering me a bit. Caused by sawing tree branches, but who knows, maybe those one arms 20 years ago are part of the problem.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Nov 16, 2016 - 11:59am PT
A show of hands here ; how many of us have been in awe of John Gill since the '70s :-D !?

How about since the '60's? (my hand raised).

One of the amazing things about ST is our ability to have a conversation with climbers I've admired for decades. And as a plus, I even get updated information on climbs I like to do.

What a web site!

John
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Nov 16, 2016 - 12:21pm PT
This fad died in the eighties.
Friend

climber
Nov 17, 2016 - 06:04am PT
Very cool Zach. Echoing some comments above, I read somewhere I think it was Jerry Moffatt saying, "you keep improving as long as you don't get injured." One of the best training tips I ever heard, along with Jim Karn's pithy remark in one of the Masters of Stone films.

Hand raised for having purchased Climb! for 25 cents at the friends of the library bookstore in high school and being absolutely floored by John Gill. How could you not be. Master of Rock too.

Other hand raised for Tami. You've helped calibrate my climber/poseur-meter for decades. It's a sensitive instrument that requires care and attention, hehe.

Zach you're doing something right to have drawn comments from folks like these. Stay psyched.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Nov 17, 2016 - 06:44am PT
I'd also suggest you do chin ups in over-grip. I notice you're doing your sets of one-arms in under grip. Over grip works different muscles and is more like climbing.

Agreed. But it is somewhat difficult (not that this is a bad thing, quite the contrary) to keep the body in an overgrip position. One trick is to do the 1-arm pullup with the other arm raised as if reaching for a higher hold, and making sure that the raised arm is on the same side of the bar as your body.

I think some kind of elastic tubing help, as you are using, is the gold standard for 1A pullup training, although if you can set up a really low-friction pulley system that keeps the weight away from your body, that might be even better, since your control of the amount of help you are getting improves. I also think using longer pieces of heavier tubing is better than several short pieces as you are using. The short pieces tend to give too much help at the bottom and not enough help at the top compared to a longer piece.

Finally, such training is hard on the body and injuries are a worry. I think it is a good idea to mix it up with weighted two-arm pullups, which are in some ways "safer" since the shoulders are symmetrically loaded.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Nov 17, 2016 - 07:17am PT
Tami, sorry to have offended you with my comment. Let me add content to my snide remark.

In high school a copy of the Guinness Book of World Records was laying around for students to gander at. In it was a comment that only an estimated 1 out of 100,000 people had done a one arm pullup, I am sure that the popularity of climbing and fitness in general has changed that number.

So a we had a try at it and not a one of us could get our arm to even start to bend. A few years went by and many workouts, pull ups and buildering sessions later I figured out how to use my lats and back muscles to start the rotation and bending of my arm to the point the biceps and forearms were enabled to be utilized to finish off the pullup (palm out).

This was pre-climbing gym and a lot of climbers blew out elbows and shoulders doing these extreme isolation exercises. Laps on the Bachar Ladder probably contributed to injuries more so than one arm pullups. Be careful and smart with your workouts, mix it up with all the available training opportunities.

Recently at Pacific Edge, I watched a youngster doing one arms off the small rail on the hang board. :)

Jon Cochran

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Nov 17, 2016 - 07:49am PT
My hand has been up in awe of JG since the 70s.

I used to do 1,000 pull-ups daily in multiple sets over the course of the day, wearing a 15 pound backpack. The best I could ever do was a slow 1-armed let down. Never even came close to a 1-arm pull-up, but boy did I try!
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 17, 2016 - 09:10am PT
Agreed. But it is somewhat difficult (not that this is a bad thing, quite the contrary) to keep the body in an overgrip position. One trick is to do the 1-arm pullup with the other arm raised as if reaching for a higher hold, and making sure that the raised arm is on the same side of the bar as your body.

For what it's worth, here's the method that took me fairly quickly from not being able to do any to being able to fire off several with either arm, and it, coincidentally or not, includes Rich's trick above.

I was working in a building that had a high ceiling in one area, with exposed beams. I clipped two aiders end-to-end, and then got on a ladder and clipped the top of one of them to a sling around a beam. This left me with an eight-step, free-hanging aider that allowed me to start by doing pull-ups with both arms, although with one hand a foot higher than the other. Pretty similar to using holds on a climb.

This set-up allowed me to vary the amount of work done by each arm, so that I was gradually able to go from 50/50 to 100/0.

The only drawback was that I wrecked a shoulder. Although that probably has more to do with my over-training than with the actual method.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Nov 17, 2016 - 10:58am PT
I was working in a building that had a high ceiling in one area, with exposed beams. I clipped two aiders end-to-end, and then got on a ladder and clipped the top of one of them to a sling around a beam. This left me with an eight-step, free-hanging aider that allowed me to start by doing pull-ups with both arms, although with one hand a foot higher than the other. Pretty similar to using holds on a climb.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention this...uneven-grip pullups are a really good training method (it is essentially what you get from rope-climbing, which is probably the best upper body strength workout there is). BITD, you could find a rope hanging in almost every gym, but nowadays they have pretty much disappeared.

A modern approach to uneven pullups, more finely adjustable than the aiders or the even cruder towel over the pullup bar, is to get a set of exercise rings, which are basically still rings mounted on some long adjustable daisey's. These can be set up uneven and finely adjusted as strength increases.

My recommendation, for any ordinarily fit climber, is to start so that the lower hand is at the level of the elbow of the upper hand when hanging straight down, and work until the lower hand is at the level of the armpit of the upper hand, at which point the lower hand will be pressing, rather than pulling---an excellent training motion all by itself.

When these are going well, you can try momentary releases of the low hand when at the top of the pullup to develop full lock-off strength on the upper arm. (You don't let go of the lower ring to release, you just lift the low ring up a bit.)
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Nov 17, 2016 - 01:35pm PT
You're welcome Tami. So no caricature of a person with his head up his ass doing one arm pull ups? Caption?

I wired a house for a political cartoonist this year. Don't rankle a cartoonist. :)

zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2016 - 02:11pm PT
Wow, so many awesome replies. Thanks! Would it be okay to post my workouts in this thread for feedback and motivation?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 17, 2016 - 04:40pm PT
Definitely post it up, I am curious. Somehow the internet decided that only 1 out of 100,000 people are capable of doing a OAC. Another view is that anyone can train to do one.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2016 - 06:26pm PT
Today's workout below.

https://youtu.be/r1xJJQUPpeM
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 17, 2016 - 07:50pm PT
Your workout is okay, but I want to see more of the cat!
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Nov 17, 2016 - 10:05pm PT
I like watching this guy. He's got some unusual, even artistic stunts.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

Not much of this correlates directly with climbing.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Nov 18, 2016 - 06:25am PT
[youtube=https://youtu.be/EeYQGYa0p3I]

Internet odds changer for Beck.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Nov 18, 2016 - 08:30am PT
I love the sequence starting around 1:17---the guy has a sense of humor!

We always knew footwork was important.
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Nov 18, 2016 - 01:06pm PT
Not sure that video changes the odds, those are some of the top female climbers (according to the comments). The ladies have been cranking the OAC for ages.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
FTOR

Sport climber
CA
Nov 18, 2016 - 02:08pm PT
for what its worth, there's no need for one arm pullup strength to climb well. i bet few of the best climbers do yet cruise 5.14's or harder.

i found rope climbing to be good training for one arms.
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Nov 18, 2016 - 04:08pm PT
I used to do 1,000 pull-ups daily in multiple sets over the course of the day, wearing a 15 pound backpack. The best I could ever do was a slow 1-armed let down. Never even came close to a 1-arm pull-up, but boy did I try!

Sounds like my experience. There is a huge genetic component here, with a certain trade-off between endurance and strength (slow-twitch vs. fast-twitch fiber proportion is part of it).

I ended up being content with the fact that I could hang in "full-up" or "half-up" position from either arm longer than most could from both arms. Also from fingertips. The "genetic content" of your muscles says a lot about how successful you'll be as you move toward the "strength" end of the training spectrum.

Connective tissue also matters a LOT!

I used to know a guy who was very strong both with weights and with climbing. Multiple one-arm pull-ups: No problem. One day he showed up with an impressive scar on the front of his shoulder. Apparently he'd been cranking a hard route and his bicep muscle tore loose at the shoulder-tendon insertion. It just "rolled up" into the crook of his elbow. One second he was cranking and feeling strong; the next he was falling in severe pain and needing surgery. And you get no warning prior to this sort of blow-out. You are feeling strong until the very second the tendon gives up the ghost.

Be careful out there!
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Nov 18, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
Over a rather wasted youth in gyms, I've encountered a few 100-pullup guys and none of them could do a one-arm pullup. I'm no expert on physical training, but I'm pretty sure that lots of high-repetition pullups is a seriously wrong approach to 1A pullups. Training endurance isn't going to get you high strength, as all the power-lifters and gymnasts of the world have figured out. High loads, relatively small number of repetitions, and substantial rests between sets seems to be the way to go.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Nov 19, 2016 - 11:41pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Nov 20, 2016 - 03:58pm PT
I don't recall ever seeing planche push-ups. Very impressive.

As in gymnastics, body dimensions play a huge role. It helps to have short legs, except for the OA pull-ups.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Nov 20, 2016 - 04:14pm PT
Planche pushups with behind-the-back claps too! Power to spare!
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 20, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
Workout 9

58# assistance
OAC - 5,5,4,4 reps
Planche - 15,15,12,12 seconds

[youtube=https://youtu.be/fE28rMy8FAM]
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Nov 21, 2016 - 01:50pm PT
One arm strength
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2016 - 02:14pm PT
That's awesome!
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Nov 21, 2016 - 02:16pm PT
Yeah, I'm so not worthy. It took me a couple of loops before I realized the jump was pretty impressive too.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Nov 21, 2016 - 03:06pm PT
Jim Clipper, that little video is super impressive!
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2016 - 03:06pm PT
I'm not worthy either but I'm working on it! The jump was impressive as well.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Nov 21, 2016 - 03:14pm PT
And what the...that Brasilian guy moves how...what?
couchmaster

climber
Nov 21, 2016 - 03:49pm PT
Zach, not to dog you on this, but noticed in your vid that you ignored Tami's advice above. She's been a Gymnastic coach for a long time, if she says don't fully extend on those pullups, I'd take her advice to heart. I've heard that advice earlier from elsewhere for hangboarding too. It's easy to get injured, hard to recuperate. As John Gill and RGold (both super strong workout artists in their day and still ahead of the curve) have detailed many times.

Tami said:
"Zach I just watched your video and since you posted it here I assume you can handle a bit of feedback. ( I coach circus acrobatics as a full time job ) At the bottom of your chin up , you should not hang in the joint of your shoulder but remain lats engaged. This will protect your joint ; remember the human shoulder is not intended to weight bear. I'd also suggest you do chin ups in over-grip. I notice you're doing your sets of one-arms in under grip. Over grip works different muscles and is more like climbing. "

Keep it it and remember that staying healthy is job #1. All else follows or you will have nothing. I speak as a person who has had 5 rotator cuff tendons (Infraspinatus, supraspinatus, Labrum, Bicep, something else) in each shoulder surgically repaired not too long back. They were surprisingly easy to screw up and it's been a long road back to climbing with any flow or competency (still working on that haha). Good luck!



BTW, my hand is still up for being in awe of John Gill.

jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Nov 21, 2016 - 03:56pm PT
As you age, to pull into a tight contraction could also lead to injuries.

You might enjoy looking at this:

Bodyweight Exercise Records
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2016 - 05:01pm PT
Thanks to you all for the feedback and concern. I really appreciate it very much! I have heard mixed reviews from many experienced people on the packed shoulder matter over time, so my goal is definitely not to ignore anyone's experienced advice. I try to do what feels most natural for me personally while going slowly and carefully without ignoring well respected advice. Jgill would you mind elaborating on your comment? Are you referring to impingement?
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2016 - 05:37am PT
Workout 10

https://youtu.be/VDjQsoky4EY
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Nov 22, 2016 - 12:24pm PT
Zach, as I got older and was still capable of one-arm pull-ups I found that if I pulled into a fairly tight configuration - as might be required for any sort of record attempt - I became more prone to "climber's elbow" or "tennis elbow", which can really put you out of commission quickly. Just be cautious and don't be swayed by experts who tell you you must start at full extension and end at tight contraction. It's not worth it.

By the way, I could never do a solid planche. Muscular legs way too long! But oddly enough that didn't bother me particularly when doing front levers. Go figure.

;>)
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Nov 22, 2016 - 02:46pm PT
As I aged, I took a different approach from John for avoiding medial epicondyltis: I started using a wrist loop for pullups so as to disconnect the need to grip hard while pulling. I ultimately found that a 1" webbing wrist loop tied on a piece of gym rope with a prussik knot was the best set-up in terms of avoiding extreme forearm compression on the medial epicondyle. It was pretty easy to learn to relax my grip while pulling, and while doing this I was able to pull to full lock-off at chest level.

I haven't done one-arm pullups for many years now (for shoulder reasons), but still use the wrist loop method for two-arm weighted pullups, which I do to the very top position.

In terms of shoulder distress, the worst position is at the very bottom of the pullup, where reversing directions imposes the maximum acceleration and so the maximum force. I think you lose almost nothing from the workout (maybe you get an extra rep from the momentary rest) if you arrange for your feet to contact the ground before your shoulders are at absolute full extension. This way you just have to lift you body, not reverse its direction of motion.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2016 - 04:49pm PT
Thanks for the details! I love hearing people's experiences with these exercises.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2016 - 06:42am PT
Workout 11

https://youtu.be/IT0xTMmgD9c
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 27, 2016 - 09:21am PT
Workout 12 - Reduced Assistance

https://youtu.be/tgBRW2JkNq0
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 29, 2016 - 05:39am PT
Workout 13

https://youtu.be/jwqw7O7bVwA
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2016 - 06:55pm PT
Workout 14

In this workout I use 54.8 lbs of assistance with elastic bands. Sets of one arm chin are 4,4,3,3 reps and sets of planche are 12,12,9,9 seconds.

https://youtu.be/9vlVQD_YCsc
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Dec 1, 2016 - 11:00pm PT
Keep up the good work.
You're almost there.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 2, 2016 - 04:20am PT
Thanks! Sometimes it feels a little slow, but I definitely feel like I'm creeping up on it.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 4, 2016 - 08:57am PT
Workout 15

https://youtu.be/S3PR6i0lPtg
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 6, 2016 - 04:24pm PT
Workout 16

https://youtu.be/0dyMqerx4M0
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 8, 2016 - 05:46am PT
Workout 17

https://youtu.be/1J9o4ejlkqQ
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 11, 2016 - 07:08am PT
Workout 18 - Mixed things up just a little. Front lever and handstand push ups.

https://youtu.be/Ioyy_ty3uvo
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2016 - 06:11am PT
Workout 19 - Assisted glute ham raises and weighted pistols. Planche and one arm chins coming back on Thursday.

https://youtu.be/ONvSnFc0jsU
chappy

Social climber
ventura
Dec 13, 2016 - 07:13am PT
I was lucky to meet McHale's Navy when I was probably around 15 (Howdy Dan!) and he got me into doing pull ups etc. He showed me the elastic chord method (we used an old bike inner tube) and it worked wonders. I was able to do multiple one arms with either arm. All that strength served me well once I actually learned how to climb! I avoid injury in my more advanced years the same way you do Dan--I avoid doing pull ups! I must admit I wish I still had that strength to weight ratio.
Chappy
i-b-goB

Social climber
Wise Acres
Dec 13, 2016 - 12:56pm PT
You should use a crash pad if the band breaks on the Glute Ham Raises - Workout 19
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2016 - 03:24am PT
Good idea about the crash pad.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2016 - 03:25am PT
Workout 20 - New Weight!

https://youtu.be/G6KvRkafSR4
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 15, 2016 - 03:58am PT
Interesting basement and first floor retrofit...
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 18, 2016 - 06:59am PT
Workout 21

https://youtu.be/oppGoLXUb0A
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 20, 2016 - 04:50am PT
Workout 22

https://youtu.be/ch5Cy5U6740
Rexi

climber
Dec 21, 2016 - 08:23am PT
Cool thread and i like your workout.

It´s been a while since i´ve been in one arm pullup form but used to be decent at them. My experience is that it is also a little technical more then just strength. At least you can do them with much less effort if you do them "right" (or perhaps just in a specific way).

I didn´t train one arm pullups specifically that much, i did more campus stuff, 1,3,5 laps, 1,4 double dynos and 1,4,7. then some pullups and added close to 50% of my weight, did about 4 of those if i remember correctly. Then lockoffs and lowered down from them, after that one arm lockoffs in 90 degrees. Then hold a small string in one arm and the bar with the other. Did that for some time and then could do the one arm pullups.

But the technical part, i would say it´s much easier if you stand sideways under the bar and while pulling up focus on rolling the shoulder on the arm not pulling close to the pullup arm. That is the main thing, from there you kind of curl up and end up doing a one arm pullup. I would say that the workout that you are doing with the elastic bands has a major flaw because you are not working on the technique, actually the opposite, if you end up trying to do the one arm pullup in the style you are doing now it would be far more difficult then it needs to be.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2016 - 05:01am PT
Workout 23

https://youtu.be/Y0ZbZhb3GzU
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2016 - 05:04am PT
Rexi, thanks for the feedback. I'm sure my method has flaws, but I think as the weight decreases the form will improve, but I could be wrong. Only one way to find out though...
Rexi

climber
Dec 22, 2016 - 07:14am PT
yeah, definately you will get it i´m sure. But you could still basically use the same approach with the elastic bands but focus on the doing them with a little different technique. Then i´m sure you will reach your goal much sooner. this guy is doing it in pretty similar way is i´m trying to describe but you could do it a little more extreme by reaching over your body with the hand not pulling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdjWgw98EeI
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2016 - 11:51am PT
Thanks for the feedback. Good video link as well. I like how he turns into them too like you say, but he's doing them overhand, which is harder than what I'm doing. I'm always eager to improve my form so I really appreciate you posting that.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 22, 2016 - 11:59am PT
I'm serious, what's the deal with the foundation and are the columns the only part of the fix?
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 22, 2016 - 01:54pm PT
Are you referring to the structure of my house? It was built in the early 60's and I don't know all the specifics. I had the house inspected professionally, although that doesn't always mean much around here. The only thing I know for sure is that a tree did fall on the roof at one point before I moved in. It may or may not be related to that.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 25, 2016 - 07:45am PT
Merry Christmas!

Workout 24

https://youtu.be/tsSwoMy1FBA
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2016 - 08:08am PT
Workout 25

https://youtu.be/BFtkx2_-Fro
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 27, 2016 - 11:37am PT
Those are some serious lally columns on either side of the window and significant reframing above it. Something big happened and they were worried about the foundation's ability to carry the load around that window. And the inspector didn't make note of any of that?
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 27, 2016 - 02:28pm PT
No, and there are no other columns in the basement. Only in the garage.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 27, 2016 - 04:01pm PT
Like I said, something serious went on there such that they don't trust that section of the foundation wall - no idea why, but it should have been noted in an inspection.

Good workout, keep it up...
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2016 - 07:39am PT
Thanks. And thanks for the concern.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 29, 2016 - 11:16am PT
Workout 26

https://youtu.be/4wa6UZ4nKcU
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Dec 30, 2016 - 09:55pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2017 - 06:38am PT
That guy is a beast!
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 1, 2017 - 06:38am PT
Workout 27

https://youtu.be/I-LiGQmVIdc
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 3, 2017 - 04:14pm PT
Workout 28

https://youtu.be/H9ncwnwSSMA
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Jan 4, 2017 - 10:02pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2017 - 09:01am PT
Workout 29

https://youtu.be/IiJaG7KeHPw
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 8, 2017 - 06:35am PT
Ten weeks strong today!

Workout 30

https://youtu.be/zk_GH1QV9bw
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Jan 8, 2017 - 08:54am PT
Hey, looks like things are going well. Those one leg weighted squats look from workout 25 look pretty intense! You're going to have to pull all that leg muscle up when you do the one arm chin ups, though.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2017 - 07:34am PT
That's true. I doubt I'll gain too much leg weight though. I've never had big legs. At least I'll be a little more well rounded in the end.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 10, 2017 - 07:34am PT
Workout 31

https://youtu.be/wAB6ITGJo0Y
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2017 - 06:20am PT
Workout 32

https://youtu.be/7qxiQ0JWbRg
mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Jan 12, 2017 - 11:18pm PT
This is amazing, it will either inspire or depress you, probably.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2017 - 05:30am PT
I want those pants. And yes, it's inspiring and depressing at the same time.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 15, 2017 - 05:30am PT
Workout 33

https://youtu.be/KVzCCWCitLA
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 17, 2017 - 05:16am PT
Workout 34

https://youtu.be/hrtEKI6pvLw
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Jan 18, 2017 - 11:59pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Jan 19, 2017 - 12:11am PT
^^^^

sweet. not sure how you found that... but, thanks.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jan 19, 2017 - 12:53am PT
You'll have to figure out the hand balancing thing from the 'Why I married a russian woman...' thread after you get the Planch & One Arm Chin Up down...
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2017 - 04:54am PT
Workout 35

https://youtu.be/YcB7AxdOJ78
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 19, 2017 - 04:57am PT
That video is crazy by the way!
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 22, 2017 - 07:08am PT
Workout 36 - Finally made it down to just 2 bands on the one arm chin!

https://youtu.be/GRWzRJ_meFs
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2017 - 04:41am PT
Workout 37 - Deadlifts & Front Squats

https://youtu.be/bgcxXsyEgSE
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2017 - 03:40am PT
Workout 38 - Front lever feels good!

https://youtu.be/kBLf1muhfQw
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 29, 2017 - 06:37am PT
Workout 39 - 13 weeks strong

https://youtu.be/bxxjZKbhVtE
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2017 - 04:12am PT
Workout 40

https://youtu.be/eQnlzMqGNuM
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 2, 2017 - 03:43am PT
Workout 41

https://youtu.be/pXMXJcPnTJA
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2017 - 06:55am PT
Workout 42

https://youtu.be/UzgzHwwnOVs
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 7, 2017 - 05:07am PT
Workout 43

https://youtu.be/9cUKclmhdJQ
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2017 - 05:45am PT
Workout 44

https://youtu.be/lDlOMYEqskU

zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 10, 2017 - 08:01am PT
Added floor press as a dynamic assistance exercise for planche day since planche is a static exercise. Video below.

https://youtu.be/T0h0f_IMWjE
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2017 - 05:16am PT
Current Routine - 3 Day Upper Lower Split

I thought I'd post my current routine in detail as I feel that I've been making good progress so far. I have 4 different workouts alternating ABCD on a 3 day per week schedule using an upper lower split at pretty low volume.

A. One Arm Chins - 4x5 assisted
Planche - 4x15 sec assisted
Floor Press - 2x5

B. Weighted Pistols - 4x5
Glute Ham Raises - 4x5 assisted
Burpees - max in 5 minutes

C. Front Lever - 4x15s assisted
Handstand Push Ups - 4x5 with deficit
Bent Over Rows - 2x5

D. Deadlift - 4x5
Front Squats - 4x5
1 Mile Run

Progress since beginning of November:

Planche 62.2# to 50.8# assist
One Arm Chin - 62.2# to 42.2# assit
Floor Press - New. Max 185# - 4x5 - 145#
Pistols - 20# to 32.5# (started later)
Glute Ham Raises - 54.8# to 38.6# assist
Burpees - 38 to 53 in 5 minutes
Front Lever -62.2# to 38.6# assist
Handstand Push Ups - 3 with no deficit to 5 with 3 inch deficit
Rows - New. 4x5 - 75#
Deadlifts - New. 290# Max. 4x5 - 200#
Front Squats - New - clean from floor - 120#
1 Mile Run - New. 6:48

It takes 9.5 days to go from A back around to A and I feel like it's pretty well rounded and my progress has been steady. I always enjoy the workouts and I try to progress a small amount every workout without getting too eager to put on weight too quickly.

https://youtu.be/TSb9btQwFRc
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 11, 2017 - 05:53am PT
RESPECT,Tim Bellingham, a Vancover photographer he likes to work with
A vast array of subjects including 'ComiCon, Pin-up girls', and athletes. Athletic People in particular—are his favorite subject for photos.
This minimally edited photo features two extraordinarily strong and gifted yoga practitioners and teachers, Amica Hilton and Geoffrey Wiebe. “This pose explores the ways in which very differently proportioned bodies can work together and support each other in extremely challenging poses.






! I'm worried that some over-head shoveling, of East Coast cement snow,
what eventually is layers with frozen 1inch crusts between 4 inches, has actually hurt my shoulder, scapula, rotator cuff? -there is swelling and tenderness in front at my collar bone,
Anyway
Your works outs were a thing in passing I wish I'd payed more attention
Getting old Svcks!
made me look more than I now care to admit ! Life's way of sending one little heads up
If you can only hear it thru the static!
This is not thanx again !
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 12, 2017 - 09:57am PT
Workout 45

https://youtu.be/AOWDNx_IcRg
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 14, 2017 - 03:19am PT
Workout 46

https://youtu.be/I8QTYuJDGGU
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 16, 2017 - 04:13am PT
Workout 47

https://youtu.be/QTxiaWQpFkA
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 19, 2017 - 05:45am PT
Workout 48

https://youtu.be/240dwZs39Uw
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 21, 2017 - 05:00am PT
Workout 49

https://youtu.be/bJ7NZp-qsV0
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 23, 2017 - 04:37am PT
Workout 50

https://youtu.be/-AFaW-aKHsc
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2017 - 05:27am PT
Workout 51 - Finally using the bar with the pistols!

https://youtu.be/updKakBl6RI
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 28, 2017 - 03:50am PT
Workout 52

https://youtu.be/FnjCrvJ0rX4
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 2, 2017 - 03:52am PT
Workout 53

https://youtu.be/GHqOKyTP0V0
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2017 - 05:51am PT
Workout 54

https://youtu.be/r-nuS3IFPiY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 7, 2017 - 06:21am PT
Workout 55

https://youtu.be/RDxQvGFq7BY
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Mar 7, 2017 - 10:19pm PT
I only did some 12 ounce curls. : (
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2017 - 04:37am PT
You can never go wrong with 12 ounce curls. Just don't forget progression is key. Next week try 16oz.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 9, 2017 - 04:37am PT
Workout 56

https://youtu.be/COLTqXc9YWY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 10, 2017 - 04:26am PT
Floor press

https://youtu.be/3ZSwzsSyKB0
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 11, 2017 - 05:28am PT
My first freestanding handstand push up!

https://youtu.be/Fh_Hm48Z6kY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 12, 2017 - 05:54am PT
Workout 57 + 1 Mile Run record!

https://youtu.be/uw1nDrzxiGs
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 13, 2017 - 04:14am PT
Rock bottom pistols on a slackline.

https://youtu.be/cmr2llao51I
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Mar 13, 2017 - 08:36pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2017 - 10:36am PT
Wow!
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 14, 2017 - 10:36am PT
Workout 58 - Weighted pull ups and weighted dips.

https://youtu.be/gD9hVrCSo-E
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 15, 2017 - 09:31am PT
Back lever work.

https://youtu.be/_q8xW_y1CFE
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 16, 2017 - 09:00am PT
Workout 59 - Snatch & Clean and Jerk

https://youtu.be/wqN982ILZ5Q
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 17, 2017 - 05:50am PT
325 yard Farmers Walk

https://youtu.be/jJHnGGtGx_E
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2017 - 06:37am PT
Workout 60 - 20 weeks strong!

https://youtu.be/NMWLYfiRcv4
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 20, 2017 - 04:33am PT
Tuck Front Lever Rows

https://youtu.be/eMW5dw5LgHI
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 21, 2017 - 05:04am PT
Workout 61

https://youtu.be/Oz0QooOh6a8
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 22, 2017 - 05:39am PT
Max Weighted Pistols!

https://youtu.be/kmJMzO4swF8
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 23, 2017 - 04:43am PT
Workout 62 - Planche & One Arm Chin Ups

https://youtu.be/-a8HbZ-xVYM
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 24, 2017 - 04:16am PT
Floor press progress. Up 20lbs in 2 months!

https://youtu.be/_3cZpWuxvME

zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 25, 2017 - 08:04am PT
Tuck planche push up on fingertips

https://youtu.be/rJ_oz7xu1sM
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2017 - 05:55am PT
Workout 63

https://youtu.be/qhK9iUKrv8o
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2017 - 05:21am PT
Workout 64

https://youtu.be/QRqRIDk_MH0
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Mar 28, 2017 - 05:59am PT
Well, 64 days later, at the very least you're definitely getting in better shape compared to the first video.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2017 - 09:34am PT
I feel like I'm in so much better shape. Thanks!
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2017 - 09:35am PT
Workout 65

https://youtu.be/P6UD6Ld--aM
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 2, 2017 - 03:10am PT
Workout 66

https://youtu.be/aMbtmXaAvx0
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 4, 2017 - 06:22am PT
Workout 67

https://youtu.be/UEMOhiaJShk
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2017 - 12:25pm PT
Workout 68

https://youtu.be/NvWw3V2kQ8Y
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 9, 2017 - 08:28am PT
Workout 69

https://youtu.be/haVWsagPcQs
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 11, 2017 - 07:16am PT
Workout 70

https://youtu.be/2-tZ3sldONM
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2017 - 04:23am PT
Workout 71

https://youtu.be/Uk4dIX7k2k4
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 16, 2017 - 04:21pm PT
Workout 72

https://youtu.be/9Gwe7lTU_DY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2017 - 10:39am PT
Workout 73

https://youtu.be/ywXsb02QbKo
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 20, 2017 - 02:00pm PT
Workout 74

https://youtu.be/97idKIffiCw
Rexi

climber
Apr 20, 2017 - 03:27pm PT
Awesome stuff, i have been following your posts :) you are getting strong!

I know i have mentioned this before and don´t want to be a pain in the ass so please don´t take this the wrong way :)

But.. I think you could make faster progress on the one arm stuff by altering a bit with the approach you go for. I just say so because i think the elastic bands mess with the technical part a little bit. It delays a little bit when you start really pushing the shoulder of the "resting" arm in towards the other arm and then making the exercise quite a bit more difficult. + you could be doing different pullup excersises that are fun and mixing it up always has a little different benifits.

But again, i don´t want to be a besserwisser and you are way strong, keep up the good work. Maybe just drop the elastic bands, tuck that shoulder in and you could finish that one arm pullup :)
Rexi

climber
Apr 20, 2017 - 03:35pm PT


ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Apr 20, 2017 - 09:29pm PT
Eric Hörst is not a bad coach to have in your corner ... [Click to View YouTube Video]
http://trainingforclimbing.com/
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 24, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
Thanks for the feedback.I see your point. I do hope the weighted pull ups will now help as well.
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 24, 2017 - 01:24pm PT
Workout 75

https://youtu.be/gKlj-OURfMY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 25, 2017 - 02:07pm PT
Workout 76

https://youtu.be/2-tZ3sldONM
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 27, 2017 - 04:15am PT
Workout 77

https://youtu.be/OfzD1p3zesk
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 30, 2017 - 04:09pm PT
Workout 78

https://youtu.be/z3oOoeJGTGg
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 2, 2017 - 08:47am PT
Workout 79

https://youtu.be/GruLKjFKeCY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2017 - 08:05am PT
Workout 80

https://youtu.be/UIZu_xz81jY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2017 - 10:26am PT
Workout 81

https://youtu.be/PaaUeSwyDLk
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2017 - 06:48am PT
Workout 82

https://youtu.be/r9foeBx0YAA
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2017 - 05:47am PT
Workout 83

https://youtu.be/rl3KFA7OLjU
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 15, 2017 - 07:59pm PT
Workout 84

https://youtu.be/uyDrixzpZQw
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 18, 2017 - 07:07am PT
Workout 85

https://youtu.be/duRiXx7mteg
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
May 18, 2017 - 09:47pm PT
^^
Clean and Jerk - Olympic lift where weight is raised from floor to overhead in 2 movements (see also SNATCH).
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 19, 2017 - 03:33am PT
Workout 86

https://youtu.be/ib2NsVoSbe4
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2017 - 07:40am PT
Workout 87

https://youtu.be/Mzhym7cqYT4
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2017 - 11:36am PT
Workout 88

https://youtu.be/InV2yA2_reA
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 28, 2017 - 07:13am PT
Workout 89

https://youtu.be/EhMfXF8rzX4
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 29, 2017 - 05:31am PT
Workout 90

https://youtu.be/DjHIz9CF0aY
zachh85

Boulder climber
Cleveland
Topic Author's Reply - May 31, 2017 - 04:49pm PT
Workout 91

https://youtu.be/RtC0SMp5GsU
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Jun 1, 2017 - 12:03am PT
What's you weight now versus day one?
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