A Response to Trumpism

He'd better get used to the first amendment cuz' it ain't going away. He's such a whiner.

t's not "free speech," and it's not protected by the first amendment!

"If Clinton had won, and "Trump supporters" were protesting the way that now "Clinton supporters" are, you guys would be all over it, railing on how "the rule of law must be followed," and "quit rioting just to prove how idiotic you are! Your guy lost. Get over it, and quit burning things!"

Where will Hillary be in one year?

It's interesting that many conservatives have nostalgia for the 50s when the top end tax rate was much higher and much of that went to infrastructure, public R&D, and full financing of our public institutions. This was also before the Glass-Steagall Act was still in place to prevent financial institutions gambling with investors money. Republican dismantling of this allowed the crash of 2007 that came close to bringing down the international economy.

only serves to fuel the fire they're tryin' to put out.

he'll either be impeached by the rupugs who would LOVE to have Pence as a party-line puppet. Or he'll resign since it was never his intent to actually win. Or the stressed out, over weight, out of shape, 74 year old taking on the hardest job in the world will croak or an MI right before a meeting with his lover Putin. 18 months max. take your pick.

Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 11, 2016 - 02:39pm PT
Would have preferred Warren Buffett. Voted for Clinton. Arguably the most qualifiied politician to be president since...Eisenhower?

Emails and Benghazi? Both previous Secretaries of State Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powelll couldn't figure out why there was such a fuss. There were a few Benghazis during Bush, Clinton, Bush, and Reagan without wanting the Secretary Of States head. Clinton had been for funding to bolster embassy security and had been refused by Congress. Stevens chose to operate out of Benghazi though Clinton had advised he operate out of Tripoli where the embassy was better secured.

She should have mea culpaed right off the bat and submitted all the emails immediately. Bad call. Otherwise, sheesh!?

The Clinton Foundation provides ~$200 million a year to charity which is ~ 87% of their revenue, the are rated 93/100 for transparency, and are a platinum rated charity with Charity Navigator, the top charity rating service according to the Wall Street Journal.

When looking up the Trump Foundation it is not considered eligible to be rated. That is the same story for the next two charity rating agencies recommended by the WSJ.

There has been an alternate reality built around Clinton that I find bizarre. And, the decision of many to vote for Trump just to have something different in Washington? Reckless, immature, and simple minded. A doctor that I have mentored and is a naturopath voted for Trump because he is against mandatory vaccination, unlike Clinton. The rest wasn't really part of his equation. Wow.

Trump expresses an uncontrolled Id unfettered by neocortex functions that represents our primitive reptilian impulses. It resonates for people that find that way of being compelling. Sadly.

The long term view is that this event may be useful in that it will end up laying bare the lie that is Trumpism and the multiple lies of the Republican Party since Reagan. I find it interesting that the US was the largest lender nation in the world when the idea of trickle down economics was instituted during Reagan and we are now the largest debtor nation in the world. But, hey, If you like what you're getting just keep doing what you're doing.

It's interesting that many conservatives have nostalgia for the 50s when the top end tax rate was much higher and much of that went to infrastructure, public R&D, and full financing of our public institutions. This was also before the Glass-Steagall Act was still in place to prevent financial institutions gambling with investors money. Republican dismantling of this allowed the crash of 2007 that came close to bringing down the international economy. And, by the way - Obama didn't cause it. He inherited it. THe crash was already a done deal when he was taking oath.

Now the Repubican Party hold the reins, so they can't bitch about what happens. The fundamental unreality of the platform will be laid out for all to see.

Not that the Democratic party has their sh#t together. They haven't been clear about their vision and their mission of service. They got their wake up call. And, the left side of that party is just annoying - get a job and stop whining! Rise by your merits and hard work.

I consider myself centrist libetarian so no party totally represents me - including the Libertarian Party that seems to be largely comprised of Tea Party folks that don't want to pay anything, but want the government to "stay out of my medicare and social security," conspiracy theorists that think "chem trails" are a plot by the government for thought and population control, militia nutters, and tax evaders that think they shouldn't have to pay taxes and then complain about potholes in the road.

Be clear that Trump won the electoral college, but not the majority of the vote.

Here is some irony for you.

"Trump's judgement on the protests (which are set to continue tonight) seems typically hypocritical considering his reaction to Obama's reelection in 2012. On November 7th that year, Trump tweeted that US citizens should "march on Washington and stop this travesty," and that the country needed to "fight like hell and stop this great and disgusting injustice."

~ from The Verge

Here's a Trump tweet from 2012 -

"We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!"

Here is a tweet from yesterday -

"Just had a very open and successful presidential election. Now professional protesters, incited by the media, are protesting. Very unfair!"

Now, this is all starting to look like the Three Stooges and would be funny if it weren't so dangerous. Suggested cohorts are Giuliani (Attorney General), Newt Gingrich (Secretary of State), Steve Bannon (Chief of Staff), and Sarah Palin (Secretary of the Interior?? Are you effing kidding me?? That's like making has been suggested Myron Ebell, aclimate shift denier, for

This scenario is starting to look like it is leaning toward a governance modeled after "The Lord of the Flies."

He'd better get used to the first amendment cuz' it ain't going away. He's such a whiner.

So, anyway. Bitching will only go so far. The next step is to plan and act wisely.

Yvon Chouinard, regardless of what you happen to think of him - in general - wisely says "Vote for the planet."

Here are actions I plan to take in response to current trends in our governance.

First is to support presrvation of the natural world, in part just because, but in greater part sustainabilty is a good idea if you want your offpring to have a world that supports human life (Hey, Mother Nature will be fine in the long run after we've shot ourselves in the head). And, damage done now may not be fixable later.

Second goal is to preserve civil liberties. Trump has repeatedly shown that he doesn't understand this aspect of our foundation.

Third goal is to support the emerging world changing technology - sustainable energy systems and agriculture. Steel manufacturing is not coming back to the US in any large way. The industries that Trump has promised to restore aren't on the things to do based on reality list. All those promises he made are false promises.

Those manufacturing industries represent previous technological waves.

The US enjoys it's prominent position in the world because of "owning" the last few technological revolutions/waves. While Great Britain owned the first industrial revolution, we owned the second one exemplified by the "assembly line." We also led and controlled technological waves that have followed - Industrial Agriculture (often referred to by the misnomer "The Green Revolution"), Scientific-Technical, Digital, and Information.

The next two waves are -

1) Sustainable agriculture/agro-ecology. This will be free of GMOs and pesticides-herbicides and will drive yeilds through emerging soil science technologies and crop rotation and integrated planting.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/30/business/gmo-promise-falls-short.html

2) Sustainable energy systems. China knows this is the next technological wave that will determine the most dominant economy/country in the near future. Who owns essentially all of the lithium reserves in South America? China. Who owns most of the rare earth metals in the world? China. This is what is behind their investments in mining reserves in Africa, Australia, and even Afghanistan.

China is clear about the future and is working diligently to control it. We are acting like children thinking the answer is to make steel again.

Going back to the Industrial Wave is not in our national intrests and doesn't serve the bigger picture. It doesn't ultimately serve people who are feeling the pinch from that technological waves' natural decline. To put the disenfranchised to work in rebuilding our infrastructure and retrain them to have ownership in the sustainable agriculture and energy waves.

Interestingly, federal investment in infrastructure and R&D made our "ownership" of these technological waves possible. Where did the money come from? Taxes. Especially, the tax structure of the 50s that required that the high earners paid at a tax rate commensurate with their utilization and enjoyment of the infrastructure, including stable rule of law, that supported their prosperity.

What I'm advocating will lead to higher taxes for me. I'm OK with that. It's not all about me.

“Taxes are what we pay for civilized society.” ~ US Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr.

Fourth, promote civility. We Americans have been traditionally known to have, generally, a remarkably civil society. We need to restore this standard and principle. To this end, we need to act civilly, even when it is not present otherwise.

We need to be less polarized, not more polarized. We need to use reason more and blind passion less. We need to remember at the core we all want basically the same things. We need to keep in mind that hatred in all of its' manifestations is primarily - overt or covert - is and expression of ignorance and suffering (mostly pain and fear).

We need to realize that it is overall more effective to stand and work for something rather than fight against a thing - not that taking a stand against some things - pillage of commonwealth resources or against assaults of women, for instance.

Doing Something
1) I have donated to the Sierra Club, National Resources Defense Council, Environmental Defense Fund, and 1% for the Planet. I plan to donate monthly.
Sierra Club
http://www.sierraclub.org
National Resources Defense Council
https://www.nrdc.org
Environmental Defense Fund,
https://www.edf.org
1% for the Planet
http://onepercentfortheplanet.org

2) I have donated to The Union of Concerned Scientists, Food and Water Watch, and Center for Food Safety. I plan to donate monthly.
The Union of Concerned Scientists
http://www.ucsusa.org
Food and Water Watch
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org
Center for Food Safety
http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org

3) I have joined the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). I plan to donate monthly.
American Civil Liberties Union
https://www.aclu.org

4) I have been contributing monthly to Save the Children Fund with the money directed within the US because kids here in this country go hungry and plan to continue.
Save the Children Fund
http://www.savethechildren.org

5) I plan to make a study of civilty and work toward practicing civility moment by moment, to the best of my ability.

5) The Rogue Valley where I live in southern Oregon is an area currently developing sustainable agriculture and energy systems. My wife and I have recently moved here and plan to become more involved with local groups to support these developments. The ideal is to be a model for other areas of the country.

This is all to make a statement that puts me under the obligation to be true to my word. It is also to put out ideas, concepts and resources for you to develop your own ideas and plans for supporting a future that promotes liberty for all, sustainability and perpetuation of our Founders ideals.

Unlike Trump who has a long history of unfulfilled promises of charity, I will provide receipts upon request.

5) I plan to make a study of civilty and work toward practicing civility moment by moment, to the best of my ability

So he won. The nation takes a deep breath. Raw ego and proud illiteracy have won out and a severely learning-disabled man with a real character problem will be president. We are so exhausted from thinking about this election, millions of people will take up leaf-raking and garage cleaning with intense pleasure. We liberal elitists are wrecks. The Trumpers had a whale of a good time, waving their signs, jeering at the media, beating up protesters, chanting "Lock her up" -- we elitists just stood and clapped. Nobody chanted "Stronger Together." It just doesn't chant.

The Trumpers never expected their guy to actually win the thing, and that's their problem now. They only wanted to whoop and yell, boo at the H-word, wear profane T-shirts, maybe grab a crotch or two, jump in the RV with a couple six-packs and go out and shoot some spotted owls. It was pleasure enough for them just to know that they were driving us wild with dismay -- by "us," I mean librarians, children's authors, yoga practitioners, Unitarians, birdwatchers, people who make their own pasta, opera goers, the grammar police, people who keep books on their shelves, that bunch. The Trumpers exulted in knowing we were tearing our hair out. They had our number, like a bratty kid who knows exactly how to make you grit your teeth and froth at the mouth.

Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones and they will not like what happens next.


To all the patronizing b.s. we've read about Trump expressing the white working class's displacement and loss of the American Dream, I say, "Feh!" -- go put your head under cold water. Resentment is no excuse for bald-faced stupidity. America is still the land where the waitress' kids can grow up to become physicists and novelists and pediatricians, but it helps a lot if the waitress and her husband encourage good habits and the ambition to use your God-given talents and the kids aren't plugged into electronics day and night. Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.

We liberal elitists are now completely in the clear. The government is in Republican hands. Let them deal with him. Democrats can spend four years raising heirloom tomatoes, meditating, reading Jane Austen, traveling around the country, tasting artisan beers, and let the Republicans build the wall and carry on the trade war with China and deport the undocumented and deal with opioids and we Democrats can go for a long brisk walk and smell the roses.

I like Republicans. I used to spend Sunday afternoons with a bunch of them, drinking Scotch and soda and trying to care about NFL football. It was fun. I tried to think like them. (Life is what you make it. People are people. When the going gets tough, tough noogies.) But I came back to liberal elitism.

Whooping it up for the candidate of cruelty and ignorance does less than nothing for your kids.
Don't be cruel. Elvis said it and it's true. We all experienced cruelty back in our playground days, boys who beat up on the timid, girls who made fun of the homely and naive, and most of us, to our shame, went along with it, afraid to defend the victims lest we become one of them. But by your 20s, you should be done with cruelty.

Mr. Trump was the cruelest candidate since George Wallace. How he won on fear and bile is for political pathologists to study. The country is already tired of his noise, even his own voters. He is likely to become the most intensely disliked president since Herbert Hoover. His children will carry the burden of his name. He will never be happy in his own skin.

But the damage he will do to our country -- who knows? His supporters voted for change, and boy, are they going to get it.


Back to real life. I went up to my hometown the other day and ran into my gym teacher, Stan Nelson, looking good at 96. He commanded a landing craft at Normandy on June 6, 1944, and never said a word about it back then, just made us do chin-ups whether we wanted to or not. I saw my biology teacher Lyle Bradley, a Marine pilot in the Korean War, still going birdwatching in his 90s. I was not a good student then, but I am studying both of them now. They have seen it all and are still optimistic. The past year of politics has taught us absolutely nothing. Zilch. Zero. Nada. The future is scary Let the uneducated have their day. I am now going to pay more attention to teachers.

Garrison Keillor is an author, entertainer and former host of "A Prairie Home Companion." (

Let the uneducated have their day.

USA is fearful of a powerful Russia, so needs Saudis for oil price manipulation to crash their economy. Saudis want oil hegemony and want regional power, to get their neo-fascist version of Sunnism to dominate Iran's Shi'ism. Syria is allied with Iran and Saudi Arabia wants Assad out of Syria. Saudi Arabia is a disaster for human rights and exporting human suffering, and is antithetical to everything America used to stand for, but because of bigger global power aspirations, we are dancing with them.

Any man that talks about woman the way he does is a POS. I despise trump with a passion I rarely feel and am amazed that any man with daughters could vote for him.

Alas for the Trump voters, the disasters he will bring on this country will fall more heavily on them than anyone else. The uneducated white males who elected him are the vulnerable ones and they will not like what happens next.

He'd better get used to the first amendment cuz' it ain't going away

But either way, Trump is the most disgusting person - by his own words and actions - ever to become President of the US, and is variously scaring much of the world and making a laughing stock of US politics.

Curves gyms

It's too bad the Democratic Party didn't have the gumption to move away from HC. They would have won the presidency.

Nut Again, I agree generally on the need to prevent illegal discrimination in public accommodations, but whenever a business involves artistic or intellectual expression, I think the balance rests in the other direction. We don't require lawyers to take cases in which they have an objection of conscience. Why should we require an artist, say, to create something celebrating an event the artist believes to be wrong? That's the distinction people miss, particularly Avakian's actions in the Oregon cake decorating case.

The Constitution recognizes free enterprise, on condition it does not damage the common good, health and safety, liberty and human dignity.

should I post a list of the MANY examples of violent behavior that Trump supporters have already hurt people with?

Two men were arrested in Meriden, Connecticut, on Saturday after beating up a Trump supporter. The Trump fan was on a traffic island, holding up both a pro-Trump sign and American flag, when suspects Wilson Eschevarria and Anthony Hobdy got out of their vehicle and proceeded to attack the victim.

In New York City on Friday, a Trump supporter wearing a “Make America Great Again” cap was assaulted while riding the subway. The victim was reportedly choked by an anti-Trump aggressor.

The anti-Trump violence has also spread to schools. Jade Armenio, a sophomore at Woodside High School in Woodside, California, who isn't even old enough to vote, was nevertheless attacked by a gang of fellow students for having supported Trump.

In addition to isolated incidents of violent attacks on individual Trump supporters, the anti-Trump protests popping up across the country have also seen incidents of violence.

The worst violence has been in Portland, where on Saturday one person was shot and roughly 70 people were arrested. Projectiles, including glass bottles and road flares, were thrown at police officers.

On Friday, harrowing video footage from the city showed a pregnant woman trapped in her car as protesters proceeded to attack it. Her only apparent crime was being white and in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Those progressives not brave — or perhaps stupid — enough to physically assault innocent Trump supporters or police officers, have taken to social media and issued calls for violence against Trump, Vice President-Elect Mike Pence, and their supporters.

A search for "kill Trump" or "assassinate Trump" returns countless tweets on Twitter, and while it would be nice to think that these are merely the ramblings of mentally unhinged, adolescent basement-dwellers, some of these threats are being issued by well-known, ostensibly upstanding citizens.

Matt Harrigan, CEO of PacketSled, is currently on leave for tweeting that he wished to shoot Trump with a sniper rifle. Meanwhile, director and screenwriter Paul Schrader, who co-wrote such Scorsese classics as "Taxi Driver" and "Raging Bull," issued a direct call for armed rebellion.

Even Joss Whedon — frequent Marvel collaborator, creator of "Buffy the Vampire Slayer," and uncrowned King of the Nerds — appeared to issue a call for revolution on social media. "This is simple: Trump cannot CANNOT be allowed a term in office. It's not about 2018. It's about RIGHT NOW," he tweeted on Monday.

In the last week, it has become clear that progressives only respect the democratic process and representative government as long as they deliver a progressive agenda. The pure vitriol spat by Democrats and their supporters in the face of Trump's victory is unlike anything seen since the pure vitriol spat by Democrats and their supporters in the face of Lincoln's electoral victory 156 years ago.

I'm wondering what the ST Trump supporters think of the people he is considering for his cabinet.

Geez Mark, do you think people really read the books you post? Shorten it up a bit, would you?

Anyway, what the libtards call "working together" is really sh#tcanning your own beliefs and caving to their agenda.

They are not interested in working "together" at all. The sooner these stupid Republicans realize this the better off we will be. It is the Republicans constantly caving and compromising that got us Trump in the first place.

the racists are really coming out of the West Virginia woodwork now

The triumphant GOP is mired in crisis after crisis



By Michael Gerson Opinion writer
November 14 at 7:29 PM

The Republican Party is everywhere triumphant — House and Senate, executive and legislative, national and state — and yet faces a series of crises.

There is a crisis of identity. Donald Trump now leads a coalition including the Republican establishment — and people who despise the Republican establishment. The insurgent president-elect — lacking relevant experience, adequate personnel and actual policy proposals — cannot exercise power without the help of those he ridiculed.

Trump has chosen to incorporate this conflict into the structure of the West Wing. His chief of staff, Reince Priebus, was the sponsor of the 2013 Republican autopsy report, which called on the party to accommodate America’s multicultural future. Trump’s chief strategist, Stephen K. Bannon, has made a career out of resisting that future. This is less a team of rivals than an ideological cage fight.

Every good presidential transition should involve betraying a few of your friends. Not everyone who helps a president become president is fit to help him govern. Bannon — whose Breitbart News invited the alt-right into the conservative mainstream and who has made a business model out of spreading conspiratorial nonsense — belongs in this category, along with Sarah Palin, Rudy Giuliani, Corey Lewandowski and the rest of the distracting campaign sideshow.

For the Republican Party, this is also a governing crisis. Trump won office promising to undo globalization, bring back manufacturing jobs and fulfill “every dream you ever dreamed.” So expectations are pretty high. But Trumpism, for the most part, consists of cultural signals and symbolic goals, not a set of developed proposals.

Many Republican members of Congress are frankly confused. Are they supposed to follow Trump’s lead or supply his agenda? He has embraced massive infrastructure investment, but there is no favored bill or detailed plan. Obamacare must go, but what approach to “replace” does Trump prefer? House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (Wis.) is pushing for tax reform. Does the president-elect have any interest in the topic at all? The biggest frustration reported by Republicans who have met with Trump is his inability to focus for any period of time. He is impatient with facts and charts and he changes the subject every few minutes. Republican leaders need policy leadership — or permission to provide it themselves.


One area where the agenda is unifying and well-developed concerns the reversal of Obama-era executive orders. Republican lawyers have spent the past year and a half working in study groups on reversal language in order to be ready on the first day of a GOP presidency. The action most likely to cause controversy would overturn President Obama’s limited amnesty for students brought illegally to the United States as children. Most Republicans think that executive order was illegal; but most Americans will probably find the victims of reversing the order to be sympathetic.


This hints at the long-term political crisis faced by the triumphant GOP. Trump won the presidency in a manner that undermines the GOP’s electoral future. He demonstrated that the “coalition of the ascendant” — including minorities, millennials and the college-educated — is not yet ascendant. But in a nation where over half of children under 5 years old are racial or ethnic minorities, it eventually will be. Trump was elected by a 70 percent white electorate. But that was about two percentage points lower than in the 2012 election — and that number has been dropping by about two points each presidential election for decades. Trump’s white-turnout strategy is not the wave of the future; it is the last gasp of an old and disturbing electoral approach.

The final crisis faced by the GOP — and just about everyone else — relates to the quality of our political culture. Trump won office in a way that damaged our democracy. He fed resentment against minorities, promised to jail his opponent and turned shallow invective into an art form. If he governs as he campaigned, Trump will smash the unity of our country into a thousand shards of bitterness.

We should hope that the president-elect will be sobered by the responsibilities of high office and discovers hidden resources of charity (even though malice has been the habit of a lifetime). He deserves the space at least to try. But Republicans may end up depending on a younger generation of leaders — Ryan, Ben Sasse, Nikki Haley, Tim Scott, Jeff Flake, Marco Rubio — to demonstrate the possibility of unifying aspiration and civil disagreement. And that would lay the foundation for a lasting and honorable victory.

Libtard. When I see that term I know the level of discourse to follow will be disappointingly low. If you're going to pose an argument at least put some effort into the task.

I'm wondering what the ST Trump supporters think of the people he is considering for his cabinet.

I must admit that I was a wee bit surprised that Mr. Trump finally chose Mr. Bannon, I thought that his stable of Washington insiders would have objected too vociferously...Perhaps The Donald IS for 'REAL' and is not going to be another controlled puppet directed by the usual 'Wire Pullers,' and does indeed intend to ROCK the BOAT? Time will tell.

So what is your answer?

And yet some trump supporters claim that trump opponents should quietly acquiesce to this sh#t. In other words, they should know their place and be good little children.

Yes, John. Bernie's a good guy, but too far out on a political limb.

I agree. A moderate, well-spoken governor might well have won.

I don't think a moderate candidate on either side would have tapped into this same energy that propelled the Trump and Sanders campaigns.

His only consistency has been on a issues that, to me, he has completely wrong: immigration and trade.

I have presented many facts...

yes, I might toss a few too many "insults" towards people who are destroying my country

so if the trump administration is a failure, is that a failure of one person or of the masses?

right wing bigotry and hatred to be on display.

The libtards think that is a map of how counties voted. It is actually a map of counties
that have a majority of people who pay income tax, red being the payers.

Lastly, upthread you mentioned American voters wanting a change. I'd say this is a very typical American-political theme, going back to the dawn of the republic; nothing new at all. Change for the sake of change.

One KKK march does not equal the anti-Trump outbursts we've seen for at least the following reasons:

3. By and large, the hate groups alleged to be right-wing (e.g. Nazis, KKK, etc.) face explicit condemnation by Republicans, conservatives, and the media.

I'm wondering what the ST Trump supporters think of the people he is considering for his cabinet.

pyro? TGT? Anybody?

The few honest MSM reporters have been reduced to leaking info to new media people because their corporate bosses won’t let them report it.A friend at CNN says Clintonland reports Hillary was in a “psychotic, drunken rage” election night; needed hardcore meds to speak Wednesday.CNN reporter tells me Hillary became physically violent towards Robby Mook and John Podesta around midnight; had to be briefly restrained. Hillary on election night was straight-up Hitler-in-the-bunker sh#t. It even included psychotic screaming about “the Russians.” The doctor helped restrain Hillary when she violently attacked Mook and Podesta at midnight. Gave sedatives, then amphetamines next morning. CNN reporter says Hillary needed so many amphetamines Wed morning she had unexpected nosebleeds all day. Fear was she’d bleed at concession...

0100hrs podesta told her she had to address her followers she (drunk as a skunk) (allegedly) said: “f*#k them – you do it”

....Fear was she’d bleed at concession...

EdwardT I hope that stuff you quoted from the internet is false.

10b4me, you are a low-class moron and a prick, you know that?

You are also stupid and ignorant.

You know nothing.

Hey Curt, here is another fact...your obsession with me is creepy.

Can I suggest we cut the mud-slinging.

10b4me, you are a low-class moron and a prick, you know that?

You are also stupid and ignorant.

thank you Jody.
As I have stated before, Jody always responds with an ad hominem attack.

Curt, I couldn't have said it better.

I'm wondering what the ST Trump supporters think of the people he is considering for his cabinet.

pyro? TGT? Anybody?

it doesn't matter because you libtards will twist the sh#t out of it anyway.,.,


how does it feel to be on the LOOSER side?

Jody I want to give you an opportunity to explain yourself but it seems you are losing you temper. I see you are passionate about your views which I think is good but you have to explain them better and not just say "I'm right you are wrong."

A conservative Washington think tank that has several officials working on President-elect Donald Trump’s transition has broken with him on how it views Russia, saying in a new report that the threat Moscow poses has increased in the last year and ranges from Central Europe to the Arctic to Syria.

The Heritage Foundation’s “2017 Index of U.S. Military Strength” has been in preparation for months, and will be released Wednesday morning, one week after Trump won the White House. Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin agreed Monday in a phone call that their two nations should improve relations and consider working together in Syria. That came despite Russian military actions in recent years that have alarmed the international community and prompted rebukes from both the Obama administration and Republicans.

Sen. John McCain, the chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, sent his first shot across the bow of President-elect Donald Trump’s national security plans Tuesday, saying that any attempt to “reset” relations with Russia is unacceptable.

“With the U.S. presidential transition underway, Vladi­mir Putin has said in recent days that he wants to improve relations with the United States,” McCain (R-Ariz.) said in a statement released by his office.

“We should place as much faith in such statements as any other made by a former KGB agent who has plunged his country into tyranny, murdered his political opponents, invaded his neighbors, threatened America’s allies and attempted to undermine America’s elections,” he said.

Meanwhile a true Jew hater is a contender for leader of the Dems.