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Kligfield

Mountain climber
Boulder, CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 21, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
With the widespread advent and uptake of drones in misc. recreational (i.e., skiing) and commercial (i.e., agricultural) endeavors, there must be many interesting episodes of climbers using drones to photograph themselves during their climbs? And the use of drones for this purpose would surely result in special perspectives that are not attainable by normal photography, with or without the use of ropes. Is this the case? Does anyone have photos and/or videos taken of them climbing using drones? Also, are there regulatory issues associated with drone use in climbing areas (for example in the national parks)?
snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Oct 21, 2016 - 04:04pm PT
ask GDavis, hes using drones to change his posture. Nature and j constine are all over this topic. a simple search of this site will give some posts.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/2657681/Ban-Drones
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Oct 21, 2016 - 04:05pm PT
i will be carrying a slingshot in the future
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 21, 2016 - 06:37pm PT
My .22 pellet gun & scope does the job for me
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 21, 2016 - 07:29pm PT
44 Mag with birdshot - easy peasy!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 21, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
Neighbors aren't so keen on that, Reilly. Stealth is key.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Oct 21, 2016 - 07:34pm PT
Well, that's only for at the crag.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 21, 2016 - 07:34pm PT
Love this

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jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Oct 22, 2016 - 05:52am PT
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 22, 2016 - 06:00am PT


Drones are banned in National Parks, Wilderness Areas

No restrictions on BLM or National Forest (unless you are operating commercially and then the same regs apply as with any photography).

Here in Boulder all they are banned in Open Space (Flatirons, etc.). Also banned in Colorado State Parks.

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Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Oct 23, 2016 - 05:51pm PT
If you want low-level aerial stuff in the National Parks, how many ways does the NPS have to tell you to "go fly a kite!" ?




All your park are belong to us.

Ken in Seattle will get you squared away:

http://www.brooxes.com/newsite/HOME.html




Do you think these guys gave a F about National Parks, or getting shot at?

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( that's some Steam Punk sh#t, right there )

sween345

climber
back east
Oct 24, 2016 - 06:01pm PT
Roy,

Sounds like you might want a Nixie for Christmas

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Fella named Christian Fracchia has been puttin up some pictures and videos for a while. You might recognize this area.

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Currently the Preserve has banned drones without their pre approval

Jim
Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID
Oct 24, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
Great Headstone shots, Chaz!
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Oct 24, 2016 - 06:32pm PT
Is this the Kligfields follies Kligfied? I see it is! Awesome one of the finest and hardest lines I've climbedei have now loaded and reloaded so no post for me?
%#^}[^
http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Skeleton-Ridge-The-Needles-Isle-of-Wight/t13066n.html

BALD EAGLE PRODUCTIONS HAS FUN A D MAKE A LASTING IMPRESION
WITH THRILLING BACKGROUNDS SWEEPING VISTAS AND SOME INSTANT "don't miss"
Close ups, very approa po music, all the whole package beacons, if you want to climb in
Scotland see these.
(please and thanK You Bald Eagle Productions! When are you going to Skye?)

AND

http://www.supertopo.com/tr/Old-Man-of-Stoer-sea-stack-in-Scotland/t13058n.html


Links incoming. . . .
In bit
Kids
Bedtime mine too for a bit..


The stuff that Jeff Constine has shown is the best that I've seen.
It takes much more than climbing chops to "GET IT" there is real Art involved.
He is The Big gun Mofo! In climbing and drone survalence of climbing in my opinion
(I know, sorry to the other pro's here, but I've not seen your/their work)
He has some sort of Hollywierd exposure. I like to think of him crashing the most expensive
Drones to get a shot at buying them cheap off the production company ( complete conjecture)

Actually the 'Sinus start' to Dark Shadows
Trashman

Trad climber
SLC
Oct 24, 2016 - 06:37pm PT
The drone busters can't get into consumer hands quickly enough.

At least the two stroke crowd is doing something while they annoy everyone in ear shot, instead of getting another angle for their feed.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Oct 24, 2016 - 07:18pm PT
Drones rock, and follow you, then land automatically.
Trevbo

Trad climber
Oct 24, 2016 - 07:27pm PT
Forget photography... use em to clip bolts instead of a stick clip!
Teresa Gergen

Mountain climber
Boulder, CO
Oct 24, 2016 - 10:00pm PT
http://www.climbing.com/news/drone-attack-the-ingenious-first-ascent-of-colorados-highest-unclimbed-peak/
Majid_S

Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
Oct 24, 2016 - 10:06pm PT
what is wrong with using drone to clip biner, set top ropes, dropping pizza and beer and do SAR or warn when LE is about to checkout the permits?
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Oct 25, 2016 - 12:12am PT
Links incoming. . . .
In bit
Kids
Bedtime mine too for a bit..


The stuff that Jeff Constine has shown is the best that I've seen.
It takes much more than climbing chops to "GET IT" there is real Art involved.
The back drops can make or break the sense of being there.
That said, Jeff is one very competitive Big gun Mofo!
He has some sort of Hollywierd exposure. I like to think of him crashing the most expensive
Drones to get a shot at buying them cheap off the production company ( complete conjecture )

Never mind all the nostalgic Gunks stuff.
While not a -drone video- check out the"Moments of Doubt" video,
at 3:17 the soloing would have been excellent
but the shot never pans out far enough for my taste,
Jeff will just laugh,
his work is miles beyond the fixe'd camera stuff!
(Hey! JC, ask 'you know who' about this! Tell her it is up 'Hill' from A. I. and Running Man)


but the Gunks App folks are the New IN crowd at the Gunks.
So it won't belong before we see their product reflect comments like this.

More Dead
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va

This place I miss more than I could ever explain
I know these places well they were walking distance from
Where I lived and you used to be able to drive to within a 10 minute rock hop
Now it requires miles of walking through the woods from Spring Farm, the "back side"
Or a more expensive stay at a bed & breakfast, that is close but still not that close
and there is a very anti-Mohonk, anti climber, property owner.....His land, where 'Artificial Intelegence' sits neglected must be avoided
( my attempt at a public service announcement )

http://www.mammutathleteteam.com/2008/11/there-are-no-cracks-in-gunks.html


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No back to the future though so here it is here. . . It speaks to the changing
Of some climbs from 12s & 13s down to, sandbags, (Certainly if you go to do them On-sight.)


I was once able to float all three,
infinite Space, Kansas City & Suppers Ready', in a day.
I didn't float Marooned or The Sinus or Dark Shadows, (Drk Shds, Two ways to go the easier escape lower, to the right. turning the roof at the spot where the white rock turns dark.
Or the much longer and harder way. Straight up the white rock, to and through the steep dark rock at the top past the overlaps.



All 3 of those climbs were ground up, on-sight FAs
First led on an odd assortment of wired stoppers & clog Wabs on cord, No cams,
every bit 5.12a-b, c if you're small...
11c-d? What do they Call A. I. ?( artificial intelligence , now .12d?!)[/quote]

There are 4 distinct cruxes on Marooned as I recall, all of them are edited out of the video.
The 1st, arriving here, the stand-up to get to this, is all part of the sequence from a necky reach out of the corner. As seen In the shots of R Romano,Apologies for the 'All time' R.R, Butt Shot,If only . . . .I could go back again!




Thnx rgold,
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Oct 25, 2016 - 09:52am PT
Anything in the name of a Good Shot. And they are beautiful shots! Good luck!

I was 2 feet from getting hit by a drone jogging/limping around my neighborhood. The 'pilots' were wearing goggles that prevented them from seeing me as I slowly came huffing and weezing down the street. Scared the bejebus outta them with my 'WOW'!

I hope drone pilots get some liability insurance because if they injure me, I'm going to make sure I'm not the only one paying the bill...

May all drone photographers/pilots be conscientious and responsible!

Cheers!

LS

squishy

Mountain climber
Oct 25, 2016 - 11:24am PT
Drones!!!!??? I got your Drones...

Plenty of drones here in Sacramento and I have a legal commercial crew with lots of capabilities and at least one climber, me.

I would love to get into marrying drones and climbing and I have been doing both for a long time. I typically make a trip to the mountains for one or the other, but not both.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Oct 25, 2016 - 01:53pm PT
I get the manifold commercial uses, but there doesn't seem to be any aspect of the outdoors that someone isn't going to try to ruin with some kind of motorized battery-powered intrusion. No place is too remote, no nook or cranny too removed, for a busybody quadratcopter to nose about. The quiet, "nature's peace," the "good tidings" John Muir so eloquently wrote about...

"Walk away quietly in any direction and taste the freedom of the mountaineer. Camp out among the grasses and gentians of glacial meadows, in craggy garden nooks full of nature's darlings. Climb the mountains and get their good tidings, Nature's peace will flow into you as sunshine flows into trees. The winds will blow their own freshness into you and the storms their energy, while cares will drop off like autumn leaves."

...all of this is now becoming material for a eulogy rather then a paean to the wilderness.

What do all these high-tech selfies add to the outdoor experience, other than satisfying the subjects' apparently insatiable need to self-publicize?
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Oct 25, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
COZ not a drone shot. But i just had to. I miss my bro.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Oct 25, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
Screen shot from a video i did with the flying rig. Un edited.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Oct 25, 2016 - 07:45pm PT
Devils Punchbowl County Park, Pearblossom Hwy
Bald Eagle

Trad climber
Oct 26, 2016 - 01:02am PT
Hi Kligfield

For my sins I have a Phantom 2 Quadcopter or Drone and have been using it in my wee climbing videos I have been filming over the last year or so. They are amazing pieces of kit and allow you to get perspectives of a route, crag or climber from a bird's eye view.



However I am very aware that drones can be noisy and intrusive and the key, like most things in life I guess, is to use them sensibly and responsibly.


Consequently I tend to use my drone in remote climbing venues anyway but I normally fly it early or late in the day. This means I hopefully do not disturb anyone (and they do not disturb me!) but also to get the best light as you would for standard photography.


On the very odd occasion there has been a member of the general public around I always tell them what I intend to do and ask if they are ok with it and have always had a positive response. If anyone ever expressed that they were unhappy or did not like the idea, especially a climber, I would never fly!



Happy climbing! :-)

Cheers

Dave aka Bald Eagle

Ps Thanks a million Gnome for your kind words!
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Oct 26, 2016 - 05:11am PT
BE, if every (or even most) drone pilots were like you I'd retract my rant.
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Nov 23, 2016 - 04:13pm PT
We just posted a drone review at TechGearLab. We have not used it for climbing applications yet. But Corey Rich has shot some cool stuff of Alex Honnold soloing in J Tree (1/3 of moive below. other 2/3 are white water kayaking and mtb. I helped on the white water shots in Mexico. The drone actually took off on its own and crashed into a tree. It was an expensive flight.

Mighty Hiker

climber
Outside the Asylum
Nov 23, 2016 - 04:26pm PT
A drone should do better at getting the rope up than a grappling hook or a cheater stick. And with a little luck won't be visible from the bridge.
Chris McNamara

SuperTopo staff member
Nov 24, 2016 - 10:54am PT
And it could deliver cold beer and tacos...
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