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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 29, 2016 - 06:18am PT
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Anyone tried it?
Thoughts?
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Blakey
Trad climber
Sierra Vista
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Sep 29, 2016 - 06:21am PT
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Underwhelming on a 5s....
Steve
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Sep 29, 2016 - 06:45am PT
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It works fine for me. There was an update today (ver. 10.0.2) to fix some supposed bugs. I have a 5SE.
Curt
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 29, 2016 - 07:08am PT
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No complaints with it on a 6s
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Sep 29, 2016 - 07:16am PT
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So far so good.
I like the text message features so I can send my son goofy graphics.
It rearranged your photos in a bunch of different ways. Could be cool if I actually had time to fine tune the way they're organized.
Susan
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 29, 2016 - 07:24am PT
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Hmmmm?
I run about the same Vintage phone... Anyone try it on a 4 yr old iPad?
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kief
Trad climber
east side
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Sep 29, 2016 - 08:31am PT
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Jaybro—
I have a third generation iPad from 2012 and it won't run iOS 10.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 29, 2016 - 08:33am PT
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Thnx Kief.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 13, 2016 - 01:27pm PT
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Has anyone ever figured out why an iPad won't stay logged in to, say, Supertopo? It's other web pages too, though.
If an iPhoneis not powered off it will stay logged in.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 13, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
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Updated to 10.0.2 and does it suck bad? They changed texting 10 ways for
the worse and a bunch of other stuff. They just change stuff to justify
their overblown salaries. What a bunch of horsesh!t.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 13, 2016 - 01:42pm PT
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iOS 10 works well for me.
There is a lot more connectivity between apps (only ones that get updated to take advantage) that can be very useful, e.g. time saving.
Notifications come to your home screen automatically and you can open the notifying app directly. The notifications observe the same security as the calling app. This is more secure and saves a LOT of time if you use any updated messaging apps. Actually many types of apps.
Siri is much more intelligent and therefore more useful.
Security is stronger for non-Apple apps such as banking, which I use nearly daily.
For iPhones 5 and later the touch pad does more (part of security enhancements)
32GByte phones may have problems if you're getting low on memory, like my wife's. It frequently runs short on memory and comes to a halt. Closing open apps usually fixes it.
My 64Gig iPhone5 works fine.
I can't see any good reason not to upgrade if you've got enough memory.
Airplay can do more which is great with AppleTV.
I've been getting the Giants playoff games live on my iPhone and playing them on my AppleTV.
Even my technophobe wife is liking it better than iOS9
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Oct 13, 2016 - 03:09pm PT
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"If an iPhone is not powered off it will stay logged in."
My iPhones have stayed logged it to Supertopo for years. Regardless of whether I turned them off. Kind of strange now that I think about it. I think it's even stayed logged in when I've gotten new phones.
Maybe it's because I have the forum page saved in my Bookmarks?
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Oct 13, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
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Updated to 10.0.2 and does it suck bad? They changed texting 10 ways for the worse and a bunch of other stuff. They just change stuff to justify
their overblown salaries. What a bunch of horsesh!t.
Well said Reilly. The "ihassle" has gone middle school with all the b.s. added to the text screen with this new operating system.
Apple must have run out of useful innovations, so now they grasping. With "ihassle" 10.02 you can't send a simple text w/o all kinds of screens popping up to format your message to look like one of the hundreds of handwritten notes i collected from my 6th and 7th grade girls (boys didn't pass notes, they just verbalized their messages).
To each his or her own, but i wish i had never uploaded the Downgrade. You can't opt out of the maddening changes.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 13, 2016 - 03:45pm PT
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Thanks labrat
Testing
BACK
My link to ST is on favorites and logon is not lost with power down.
Maybe what I'm remembering is from before saving a link in favorites.
This is an old iPhone I inherited running iOS 7.1.2
Now on to the iPad - also inherited
The iPad was 'defaulting' into private mode where info is not retained.
Problem solved I believe.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Oct 13, 2016 - 03:56pm PT
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Apple must have run out of useful innovations, so now they grasping. With "ihassle" 10.02 you can't send a simple text w/o all kinds of screens popping up to format your message to look like one of the hundreds of handwritten notes i collected from my 6th and 7th grade girls (boys didn't pass notes, they just verbalized their messages).
Well, that's completely false. I have 10.0.2 and my texting works almost exactly as the way it did before. It isn't mandatory to use any of the new texting features.
You can't opt out of the maddening changes.
I have.
Curt
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 13, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
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If you don't like the iPhone you can switch to any one of a half dozen knockoffs for less money. Many of them very good phones.
You can even get a Galaxy Note7 if you want to burn up the next plane you fly on. Well not any more you can't.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 13, 2016 - 06:48pm PT
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my iPhones have stayed logged it to Supertopo for years. Are you certain it's "logged in"?
The Safari browser (like most other browsers) remembers the last website you visit. So next time you wake up or restart the phone it takes you back to the last site. Dunno if you can bypass that but you can be sure it's not connected to SuperTopo while Safari is off. Although I can't prove it, I expect it also disconnects when asleep.
Obviously your Phone app doesn't really "sleep", it's always listening for phone calls. It would be really annoying if it fell asleep and you missed an important call. Although you can make it do THAT if you like.
I suspect that the messaging apps do the same.
OS10 does have a new Notifications behavior which sends you messages from a large number of apps. You can configure which apps you want to receive (and to listen to the outside world) notifications in Settings->Notifications
Some notifications come from an app on your phone (like your calendar) to bring you important messages. These CAN wake your phone but you can disable this as well if you turn off Settings->Notifications "Show on lock screen". You also now have more control over the lock screen: See Settings->General->Background App Refresh.
If you don't like the way your iOS10 phone behaves, look through settings. You have control over a large number of its automatic/background behaviors.
A good example is the eBay app. If you turn on Background App Refresh and someone outbids you you'll get a message.
Some transit apps will let you know that the next train/bus/plane is arriving etc.
Of course you have to upgrade to the new iOS10 compatible apps.
All your old iOS8/9 apps should work just as before if you like.
Oh yeah, now you have more control over your keyboard. See Settings->General->Keyboards (yes, you now have 2 by default and might be able to add others in the future)
You don't like your keyboard automatically filling in your next character and giving you the wrong word? Turn off Predictive.
While you're messing with Keyboards settings, checkout About Dictation and Privacy at the bottom. You may want to turn Dictation off if you're paranoid, or Julian Assange.
Most Apple apps now support Dictation (for Siri among other things) so lots of the updated apps have a similar control.
If you're Uber paranoid go to Settings->Safari->Advanced->Website Data and Remove All Website Data at the bottom. Now your S.O. can't know where you've been browsing.
Checkout the other Safari Settings that can let you control your privacy:
Search Engine Suggestions, Safari Suggestions, Do Not Track, Check for Apple Pay, Block Cookies etc.
You can even change your search engine from Google to Yahoo, Bing or DuckDuckGo.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 13, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
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There is a big difference between logged in and connected.
Check it out.
Like I said, turn on private browsing and compare.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Oct 14, 2016 - 05:27am PT
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I have.
Curt, you must know something the apple techs don't know, they told me the text screen has no optional settings. If you know how to opt out of these unwanted text options please inform me.
I tilt my phone 2° and this pops up:
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Oct 14, 2016 - 07:15am PT
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DMT,
Not bad advice if i had a portable desk to place the phone so that i won't tilt.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Oct 14, 2016 - 07:22am PT
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"Logged in" is when you see your avatar name in the upper right corner of the supertopo page.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2016 - 07:25am PT
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If an iPhoneis not powered off it will stay logged in.
Mine doesn't!
I have to. Password in, after any gap over about four hours.
Does anyone know if in the settings there is a way to get back the swipe camera? So you don't have to use a password to open the whole rig.
This feature is essential for taking photos of people on top of Ancient art with their phone.
And yes, there are a whole slew of gratuitous dorky features in texting now!!!
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Oct 14, 2016 - 08:05am PT
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Swipe left on the lock screen to get to the camera.
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Oct 14, 2016 - 12:03pm PT
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Dingus. Responses in caps below....
1. You never close Safari, ever, and or (I TRIED THAT, IT's STILL LOGGED IN WHEN I WENT BACK TO IT)
2. Never close the window of the site you're visiting. (I TRIED THAT, IT's STILL LOGGED IN WHEN I WENT BACK TO IT)
An awful lot of iPhone users don't know how to close an app. But turning the phone off and back on will close the apps too so guessing this isn't it.(I KNOW HOW AND JUST DOUBLE CHECKED THAT I AM DOING IT CORRECTLY)
But when you visit a site using Safari, it remembers it and when you launch Safari the next time it will reopen that same window, unless you explicitly close/kill the app when exiting.(I CLOSED THE PAGE WITH ST ON IT AND OPENED JUST A GOOGLE SEARCH PAGE BEFORE I CLOSED IT)
But none of that = 'logged in' (WHEN I REOPEN ST FORUM PAGE I AM STILL LOGGED IN)
I EVEN REMOVED IT FROM MY BOOKMARKS AND IT STAYS LOGGED IN.....
HELP! MY PHONE IS POSSESSED BY THE FORUM!!!
It might have something to do with the icloud keychain but I believe I said no to saving the password....
Monolith
"Logged in" is when you see your avatar name in the upper right corner of the supertopo page.(CORRECT)
"Swipe left on the lock screen to get to the camera."
Thanks Monolith! I've been swiping up and then touching the camera. Saves me a step.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 14, 2016 - 03:58pm PT
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Do you want to stay logged in or not.
I prefer not to one finger type my moniker and password, so I stay logged in!
Correcting your 'private' browsing setting fixes the staying logged in problem
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:03pm PT
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Curt, you must know something the apple techs don't know, they told me the text screen has no optional settings. If you know how to opt out of these unwanted text options please inform me.
I tilt my phone 2° and this pops up:
Hmm. I have 10.0.2 and I have never, ever seen that when creating or sending texts.
Curt
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Norton
Social climber
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:08pm PT
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My iPhones have stayed logged it to Supertopo for years. Regardless of whether I turned them off. Kind of strange now that I think about it. I think it's even stayed logged in when I've gotten new phones.
Maybe it's because I have the forum page saved in my Bookmarks?
Safari remembers from the supertopo login cookie to retain your username and password
now if you go to Settings-Safari-and then "clear history and website data" then your login information will be erased and you have to log in all over again
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:33pm PT
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Thank you Norton and zBrown
I'm fine with being logged in all the time......
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 14, 2016 - 04:52pm PT
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A couple of people (including me) have mentioned that all apps will be closed when you turn off (with the side button) the iPhone. Yes, but then you have to reboot.
There's another way that I find more useful. It came in with iPhone5.
Log yourself in with the finger ID button or your password.
Now double press the button. All open apps will appear scrolled across the screen.
Slide (left to right) so that you can get a finger on the app you wish to close. Slide the app screen up. That app's screen will magically disappear. Repeat until all apps are gone (except the home screen which will persist)
Single press the button to return to the home screen.
It's very easy to have several apps open at once which can eat up your available memory. My wife does this frequently. If your iPhone iOS9/10 comes to a screeching halt, you've likely consumed all your memory.
Close all apps as described. If the phone still seems bogged down, now's the time to shut it down and start afresh.
You can see how much memory is available with Settings->General->About->Available
If you've got something less 1 GByte your iPhone will be slow.
As a habit I try not to have more than 4 or 5 apps open at a time.
NOTE: apps that are open in the background WILL stay connected to their last webpage.
So this may be your cause of staying logged in all night.
I shut all apps down when I plug into the charger for the night.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Oct 14, 2016 - 05:51pm PT
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Hmm. I have 10.0.2 and I have never, ever seen that when creating or sending texts.
Lots of people have said that to me, while others, like Susan stated they like it, so i assume there is a bug somewhere. Some people get the emoji demon by default, some don't. Emoji is a keyboard that looks like the pic i posted.
i spent 2 hours w/ Apple techs today. It is controlled in settings, general, keyboard settings. i have an ihassle 5, but that shouldn't matter.
To locate it, scroll down to the "Add A New Keyboard" menu and there you will find the root of all evil (emoji keyboard).
When i downloaded 10.02 the emoji keyboard was selected by default. There is no possibility of me having done so, since i knew nothing of keyboard menu.
You may get curious and look at your keyboard settings, but don't let that cat kill you by selecting the emoji option.
i am having to erase all data from phone and restore from icloud via itunes. Hopefully I haven't lost anything of value, such as contacts and some pics.
Right now i am waiting itunes to download the i.o.s. 10.0.2 to my phone, which is very confusing since it is there, albeit dysfunctional.
Maybe you can see why i think so little of the i.o.s. 10.0.2 upgrade, since i had a fairly well functioning phone before the change and nothing but frustrations since.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Oct 14, 2016 - 06:03pm PT
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i spent 2 hours w/ Apple techs today. It is controlled in settings, general, keyboard settings. i have an ihassle 5, but that shouldn't matter.
It shouldn't, but I wonder? I have the 5SE which has the same guts as the 6+
Curt
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 14, 2016 - 06:11pm PT
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No complaints with it on a 6s
I've got one complaint.
It seems battery life at the very end is different. Maybe it's a setting but my 6s would hang on to 1% for way longer than I could ask for. Really surprised me. Now it'll turn off at 10% and 30% if the little bitch gets cold.
Otherwise like with all Apple updates I do them when they come out and forget about whatever little thing that might come up in no time. So like with other Apple stuff iOS10 just works.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 14, 2016 - 06:36pm PT
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I learned something on Supertopo today!!
Thank you Monolith!
Daphne & Susan thank you too!!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 14, 2016 - 08:05pm PT
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Powering down this iPad does not close open apps nor safari windows. Just tested.
Is it worth trying to compile all that we've discovered?
Edit:
Just made sure all safari windows were closed
Made sure all apps were closed
There were a lot open
What do you want on an inherited machine - rubber buscuits
Powered down
Powered back up
Start safari
Go to ST
Still logged in
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 16, 2016 - 12:28pm PT
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Jaybro
I have not had the iPhone log me out of ST in any case I've tested.
Closing all windows
Closing all apps
Powering down
I logged out of ST, closed all windows, closed all apps, powered off, powered back on, hit favorite for ST, got ST, not logged in, signed in ST remembered my moniker, only had to type password and check the box
However,
If you bring the Samsung Note7 on a plane, you could be arrested
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3131343/mobile/us-bans-samsung-galaxy-note7-from-all-flights.html?google_editors_picks=true
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 17, 2016 - 04:43am PT
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Note(7)ed!
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:43pm PT
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I logged out of ST, closed all windows, closed all apps, powered off, powered back on, hit favorite for ST, got ST, not logged in, signed in ST remembered my moniker, only had to type password and check the box Yes, Safari remembers where you were last. But it does not stay connected when you shut down the Safari app.
As I said on page 1, bold added.
The Safari browser (like most other browsers) remembers the last website you visit. So next time you wake up or restart the phone it takes you back to the last site. Dunno if you can bypass that but you can be sure it's not connected to SuperTopo while Safari is off. Although I can't prove it, I expect it also disconnects when asleep.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Oct 17, 2016 - 06:48pm PT
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You are confusing connected and logged in. Discussed above.
If you actually read what I said, I did not say "connected", though I may have used the word loosely a number of posts back.
It's probably better to not use the terms interchangeably.
Also, Safari may remember where you were last. As I ponted out before, it depends upon whether you are browsing in "private" and other things.
next time you wake up or restart the phone it takes you back to the last site is not true in the scenario I described where the windows and apps have been close.
Hope this clears it up for you.
None of which explains why Jaybro's machine seems to drop the login at around four hours.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Oct 17, 2016 - 08:10pm PT
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The only time I get logged out is if I clear cookies or on some system upgrades. It happened going from ios9 to ios10.
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