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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 20, 2016 - 10:23am PT
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Our old pal Dr Alfred Kwok seems to be over due on a weekend trip out of Onion Valley, possibly in the direction of the Vidette's to the SW.
More current info on his face book page.
Here is his milk carton photo:
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2016 - 11:25am PT
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Swellymon, My thoughts too. He was spotted getting a permit and had someone with him according to FB post. Hopefully I will get good news and be deleting this thread later today. Sheriff is on it and a group of friends are headed in to look for him. Hopfully just slogging up out of Bubbs creek with that twisted ankle.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Sep 20, 2016 - 12:04pm PT
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It sounds like there is already a big crew looking for him, with a very good idea where to look. Here's hoping he's found healthy today.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Sep 20, 2016 - 12:08pm PT
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Thinking positive thoughts. I spent some time with Alfred a while ago. He's a good guy.
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Sep 20, 2016 - 12:29pm PT
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Sending good thoughts. Remember him posting about So Cal stuff on mountainproject.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Sep 20, 2016 - 12:46pm PT
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Really hope he is ok. Very nice guy. The last few weeks were really rough, so praying for a good outcome.
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Alpamayo
Trad climber
Davis, CA
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Sep 20, 2016 - 01:06pm PT
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I did an extended climbing trip with Al many years ago. Hope he is ok.
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ClimbingOn
Trad climber
NY
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Sep 20, 2016 - 01:24pm PT
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Please keep this thread updated with any news. Link to the Facebook page?
Is there anything those of us who are not in CA can do to help?
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 20, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
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No need to stress. Chances are it is just an epic not an end.
Nothing new on the facebook feed. People out looking for him. Hopefully someone here might have been out that way in the last couple of days and can add a clue.
https://www.facebook.com/alfred.kwok.10?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Sep 20, 2016 - 04:47pm PT
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Hoping for strength on his end and speed and efficiency for all the searchers and teams involved.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Sep 20, 2016 - 06:19pm PT
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Hope Al's ok. Was he due back on Sunday?
Anyone in touch with his family or know who he's with?
I hope to read good news soon.
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sowr
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 08:24am PT
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Nothing new yet - search continues today.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Sep 21, 2016 - 09:06am PT
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Alfred Kwok at the Tunnel Crag!! Nice guy all the way around. Glad he is OK.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Sep 21, 2016 - 09:23am PT
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Good news!
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Gorgeous George
Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
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Sep 21, 2016 - 09:31am PT
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Good news indeed. Is a TR forthcoming?
Curiosity is getting the best of me.
Hope to hear confirmation that you're ok Al.
jg
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JayH
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Sep 21, 2016 - 09:54am PT
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E Scott--can you confirm your info? No one on FB was aware of this yesterday or even this morning, including members of the search party who reported back after returning to camp last night--thanks,
Jay
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Sep 21, 2016 - 09:56am PT
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Great news!..I was worried...hope this news is true!
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leopop
climber
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Sep 21, 2016 - 10:05am PT
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E Scott - Where did you get this info? Kwok's family said they are in communication with NPS & Inyo SAR, and as of last night there was no news.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 10:24am PT
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p.s. carry a DeLorme. Text messaging from anywhere is a game changer.
I forced my husband to buy one before his last trip to Nepal. He wasn't enthusiastic about it at first - the idea of inserting technology and cost into something (hiking) he's done his whole life. I'm so glad he has one.
Hoping for some good news today in this case.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Sep 21, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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Just got some news from a very close friend to Alfred, she said he has not been found. It was some other person SAR found.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Sep 21, 2016 - 11:32am PT
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Hoping for the best.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 11:35am PT
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Hoping for the best.
Same here.
John
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sowr
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
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Al's family posted this on Facebook:
"Thank you all for the concern, well wishes, and prayers for Alfred Kwok, Enoch's cousin, who has not returned from a backpacking hike into the High Sierras over the weekend. We have been in contact with both the Inyo County Sheriff's Department lead officer in charge of this search and rescue operation as well as the National Park Service ranger coordinating the helicopter search. While progress has been made in the search, we have no definitive news to share at this time. We will update you tomorrow when we have more concrete information. Enoch Kwok, for the Kwok family. 11PM 9/20/2016"
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LAhiker
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Sep 21, 2016 - 01:13pm PT
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Hoping for good news.
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jaceking
climber
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:04pm PT
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I am a student at the college he worked at. We just received notification that Prof. Kwok has passed. :(
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:07pm PT
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Damn, deepest condolences to all who knew him.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:07pm PT
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Oh no! Very sorry to hear this.
John
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sowr
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:13pm PT
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Dear Friends of Alfred Kwok,
It is with great sadness and regret that we must inform you that Alfred Kwok has passed on from this world to our loss. Heaven has required his full attention and presence. We were notified last night that a body had been spotted by the National Park Service rescue helicopter in the vicinity where Alfred was expected to be hiking, but due to impending weather conditions, the body was not able to be recovered until this morning. Park Rangers have positively identified the corpse as belonging to Alfred, and family members are on the way to receive him. From the preliminary autopsy, Alfred suffered a quick death from a fall and did not suffer for long. We know that Alfred touched many people’s lives and will be making arrangements for a memorial service to take place in or around Claremont, CA in the near future. When those arrangements are finalized, we will post the details here on Facebook. In the mean time, we would like to request that people think of one or two favorite memories or photos of Alfred and post them here on this Facebook thread, so that we can all share in the grieving process, but also to celebrate the blessing that Alfred has been in our lives. Enoch Kwok, for the Kwok Family. 1:40PM 9/21/2016
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:14pm PT
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Oh man that stinks!
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:34pm PT
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homeward bound, we loved you well
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:42pm PT
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I often think of freak accidents while hiking on sketchy terrain in high places. It might not ultimately save me, but it gives me the illusion of staying on my toes when I'm really tired. We had cause to watch ourselves on this recent trip. We've all been so close.
My condolences to all who knew and loved this man.
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ClimbingOn
Trad climber
NY
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:46pm PT
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This is deeply saddening news. Alfred was incredibly kind to me and helped me through a very difficult time. He and I partnered frequently a number of years ago. Trips to Yosemite, Joshua Tree, Cochise, etc. He was always game for a full-value weekend adventure. We would load up his Subaru and head out, often arriving late and cooking noodles & other food before catching a bit of sleep.
When I broke my wrist in Cochise (not his fault in any way) and did not have a place to stay, he took me to the hospital and then let me stay at his house for multiple days while I figured out what to do. He drove me to the airport and did everything he could to help me.
Alfred's collection of classical CDs is quite something to behold. We'd pull up to the crag listening to Beethoven, surely giving other climbers pause. One night on the way back from a climbing trip I remember putting on a rock station as the classical music was putting me to sleep. I asked him what rock he could handle, and he said most other than AC/DC. Of course AC/DC was the first song I found, and was just what I needed to stay awake. He tolerated that remarkably well.
The most significant climb Alfred and I did together was the East Buttress of El Cap. This was a significant achievement in his climbing career and he was intensely happy to complete it. Walking up the talus slope to the base, his enthusiasm was tangible.
Alfred was a unique climbing partner and we shared many adventures together. I'm glad we got in as many quality climbing trips as we did. His life was rich in both academics and the outdoors and both communities have suffered a loss.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
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We have had too many losses this month. While I did not know him, I mourn the loss of one of our own.
Condolences to all, you can tell from his eyes in the photo what a wonderful man he was.
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scheumee
Mountain climber
Eternia
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Sep 21, 2016 - 02:59pm PT
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I only knew Alfred through another friend but am very sorry to hear this.
RIP Alfred.
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Todd Gordon
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
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Sep 21, 2016 - 03:30pm PT
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So sorry to hear this. Climbing's dark side .,.Al often contacted me with questions about climbs, climbing areas, logistics, advice....and I would see him at the crags or out and about....he will be greatly missed by his family, friends, students, and the climbing community.
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robert selter
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 03:34pm PT
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He will be missed.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Sep 21, 2016 - 03:52pm PT
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R.I.P Alfred Kwok!!! Here with Tony Bird, Tunnel Crag.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Sep 21, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
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Terrible news. Condolences to family and friends.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 04:16pm PT
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Yes, this is terrible news. Condolences to all his good friends and to his family.
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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Sep 21, 2016 - 04:27pm PT
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also sad, RIP DR.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 04:30pm PT
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Peace to Dr. K and his friends and family.
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Sep 21, 2016 - 04:31pm PT
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My condolences to his family & many friends.
My life is poorer for having never met him.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 04:55pm PT
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God bless ya, Alfred. Sorry to hear about this. Rest in peace.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Sep 21, 2016 - 05:42pm PT
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I was really hoping this was going to end up differently. My sincere condolences to his friends and family. RIP
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Sep 21, 2016 - 05:48pm PT
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So sorry to hear this terrible news. My condolences to his friends and family.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 21, 2016 - 05:53pm PT
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RIP. Sorry for the loss of your friend, Spider.
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BillO
Trad climber
Yachats, OR
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Sep 21, 2016 - 06:15pm PT
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A couple of photos of Alfred climbing at Dome Rock (Tree Route) with Sheila Romane and Nathan Scherneck on an ROWCC trip to the Neeldes and Dome Rock a few years back.RIP Alfred
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ninjakait
Trad climber
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Sep 21, 2016 - 07:33pm PT
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I remember when I first met Al, climbing with my Dad, out in JT. As memory serves, he was a soft spoken and kind individual with whom my father always enjoyed climbing with. Sincerest condolences to Al's family and friends.
Cheers,
Tia
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Aerili
climber
Project Y
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Sep 21, 2016 - 09:20pm PT
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Wow, what bad news. I never knew Al but he emailed me several times in years past to ask for beta on various northern California climbing areas. My sincerest condolences to his family and friends.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Sep 21, 2016 - 10:18pm PT
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Sad to read of his passing.
My condolences and peace to all those lucky enough to have known him.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Sep 21, 2016 - 10:50pm PT
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So sad to hear this. I only knew him a little but clearly Al was Such an awesome person!
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pb
Sport climber
Sonora Ca
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Sep 22, 2016 - 02:23am PT
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Yeah, he was a really sweet guy. Truly generous of spirit. I showed him how to play flashlight tag with the kids one night in Joshua Tree. Here's this Physics pro playing with the kids, just overjoyed. That's how he climbed too, like it was Christmas morning.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Sep 22, 2016 - 07:29am PT
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Wow so sad to hear about Al. I didn't know him well but I climbed with him a couple time around LA. He was a very nice guy. Solid climber. Last time we touched base was when we exchanged a couple emails after Woody's accident.
Condolences to his friends and family. We lost too many people this year.
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Tom Patterson
Trad climber
Seattle
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Sep 22, 2016 - 07:38am PT
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How very, very sad. I'm so sorry for those experiencing the pain of his loss. He sounds like a wonderful guy.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Sep 22, 2016 - 07:47am PT
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Crap. I'm inspired by people who both work hard and play hard and it sounds like he was quite a guy. Sorry for all the people who he knew as I'm sure he'll be missed. God bless.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Sep 22, 2016 - 08:37am PT
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Damn
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Sep 22, 2016 - 09:00am PT
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This is bad news.
I offer my sincere condolences to Al's Family and many Friends.
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crusher
climber
Santa Monica, CA
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Sep 22, 2016 - 11:51am PT
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I was hoping for a better outcome to this when I first heard the news he was missing. Just terribly sad. Over the years we'd run into Al at different crags. He always had a smile, was so friendly and so enthused about climbing.
Condolences to Al's family and friends, he will be missed.
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tpeckdmin
Boulder climber
Glendora, CA
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:37pm PT
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Hi everyone: I am Alfred's pastor and fellow climbing enthusiast. The family is planning a memorial service on Saturday October 8 in Claremont CA. I know the family would love to have as many of you there as possible. More details to follow.
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Radish
Trad climber
SeKi, California
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:47pm PT
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Sad outcome indeed ! Condolences to all Family and Friends....
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Bill Mc Kirgan
Trad climber
Cedar Rapids, Iowa
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:49pm PT
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I didn't know Al, but wish to extend my condolences to his family, friends as well as to his colleagues and students where he taught. He was obviously much loved in every community he touched.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Sep 22, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
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My sincerest condolences to the family and friends of
Dr. Kwok.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Sep 22, 2016 - 01:26pm PT
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I knew Al in passing, and had his contact info for possible future plans. But the time when I got to know him better was shortly after the sad event of Woody's death. I knew Al was hurting from that and I didn't know what his situation was in terms of company, people to talk to, etc. So I invited him and Tony Yeary, who knew him far better than I, over for dinner. We sat and talked for long time. He impressed me as a kind and thoughtful person.
Heartfelt condolences to friends and family.
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tpeckdmin
Boulder climber
Glendora, CA
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Sep 22, 2016 - 08:10pm PT
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Hi friends: Alfred's pastor here again. A memorial service has been planed for Alfred on Saturday, October 8 at 3 PM. The service will be held at Little Bridges Auditorium at Pomona College in Claremont. The address is 150 E 4th St, Claremont, CA 91711. Alfred's family would like to invite any of his climbing friends to attend.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Sep 22, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
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Man, this is so damn sad. Rest in peace, brother.
What the hell is going on in the Sierras this year? Watch yourselves, folks.
BAd
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Sep 23, 2016 - 04:14am PT
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I hear that the climbing is better on the other side, bro.
Belay on!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 23, 2016 - 09:16am PT
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This is awful news...I met Al this spring, and we climbed together for a day at Margaritaville. He struck me as well as a kind, thoughtful person who kept adventure as a central part of his life.
He contacted me about 2 weeks ago, looking for a partner to climb Fingertrip. I was unable to make it...now I find that as a great regret.
The people around us that seem such a constant fixture in our lives are ephemeral as spring flowers.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 23, 2016 - 08:29pm PT
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Welcome back, TGT. Undoubtedly, you feel this loss more than most anyone could.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Sep 23, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
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Holy sh#t, this is THAT Al?
Aw, man...I didn't realize that. I loved Woody like an Uncle, and when I heard about that accident I wondered about the 'Al', and how hard that must have been on him. And Wendell.
F*#k! I had never met Alfred, but if he was a good friend to so many here, and guys like Wendell and Woody, it really just sucks a whole lot more.
Wendell, stick around. Sorry for everyone's losses. Really depressing...
I can't think of anything optimistic to say.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 25, 2016 - 02:24pm PT
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Thank you TGT. I am greatful I dragged him out to the Access fund event at Tahquitz last June. Good to meet you there too.
It has been one week today. Seems like much longer. Facebook is a continuous stream of love and memories.
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Sep 26, 2016 - 12:12pm PT
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Such sad news.
There is a 49 year-old experienced ex-marine solo climber missing in the Maroon Bells area. He was to climb Pyramid, then the Bells . . . crumbling masses that they are.
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Send
Trad climber
Central Sierra
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Sep 26, 2016 - 12:34pm PT
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Sad News, RIP Alfred.
I was fortunate enough to climb with Al as well on many occasions. Jtree, Tahquitz, Needles.
I always remeber Alfred eating like 3-4 bagels during one climbing day. I did one of my favorite climbs with him, Igor Unchained, and he even let me lead all the pitches.
Great guy, will be missed.
Chad N.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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Sep 27, 2016 - 05:12am PT
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Sep 27, 2016 - 07:25am PT
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The wife tells me I met Al Kwok.
The paper says they found him high on the southwest side of Deerhorn. So he climbed one of those third class buttresses on the northeast and then fell from the top, something unexpected went wrong.
RIP
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sowr
Trad climber
CA
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Sep 27, 2016 - 10:54am PT
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I agree - the crossing between lower horn to west and the main summit or the other direction, depending upon which route he climbed. So either on the way up or the way down. One could look for an entry in the Summit Register.
Something tells me I'll be climbing this one next year.
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Send
Trad climber
Central Sierra
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Sep 29, 2016 - 02:07pm PT
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TYeary
Social climber
State of decay
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I will always remember Al as curiously nerdy, very high functioning individual who could hold his own in conversation on just about any subject.
Always friendly and kind, he didn't have a mean bone in his body. Solem and I were the first to talk with Al after the accident with Woody. It took a long time for him to find his climbing compass. We climbed ice, rock and often talked late into the night many times. I was in the Valley for Facelift, barely digesting Kyle's death when I heard of Al's fall on Deerhorn. Hard to fathom, I drowned the reality in beer and pain pills.
I will miss you Al. You were one of the good ones.
TY
Nice to see you, Dean, at Meatfest. Thanks for your kind words and love.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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So sad. I only just saw this thread and realized I had spoken at length with Al at the Idyllwild Access Fund event this past June. Seemed like a great guy, confirmed by those who knew him and posted here. RIP Al.
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everbrad
Trad climber
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Oct 15, 2016 - 02:55pm PT
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Apologies for being late for the celebration of Al’s life here. I missed Al’s memorial too but Al would have wanted it that way as I was entertaining my retired Mother for her California vacation. To the casual observer Al might have been seen as a climbing junkie using all that “down time” from teaching and not having a wife and kids for his climbing addiction. But was Al was much more that and his immediate family and students were his priority. One time when we were out he was obviously upset. I thought it was something to do with me or the climbing but he was pissed that his brother had taken their parents out traveling and never bothered to stop to give the Kwok clan a proper meal. "You take care of your own, especially the elderly" or something along those lines Al quipped. He also never climbed during university functions even if he didn't have to attend; He was always there for his students. One time we even hauled one his students to the San Diego metro at the end of a semester with guitar, crates of college junk and all on the way to check out Mount Woodson.
Al was well traveled and had great stories. He also wasn’t quite like any other friend I’ve ever had. Here a few of my favorite Al memories (my apologies in advance for not doing Al justice in prose).
Al calculated climbing trips in fractions. For instance even with driving time, we could easily get in 5/8 of day on the rock on Saturday if we left at 6:30 am and only made 1 stop at Von’s in Yucca Valley to pick up bagels. Sunday of course would be a full day since we’d climb sunup to sundown. Leaving early was not acceptable and driving in the dark wasn’t factored into the climbing time calculation.
Al never slept in a tent, which is the way to go in Socal, but not so much up north in the very late fall and early spring. He was the teacher by trade but I became the teacher when it came to dew point.
Al was up, had his sleeping setup packed up, and ready to get to the climbs in about 10-12 mins after the agreed upon wake up time. I learned quickly to adjust my schedule.
Al often explained his work to me with climbing terms so I could better understand. For instance, last year the biology side of the research was crux but this year the physics was the crux.
Al was all about the classical music as others have mentioned. On the way back from Yosemite we had obviously climbed until dark before heading out and both had to work on Monday so we took turns driving. When I awoke from my slumber somewhere on the 99, Al had the Mozart cranked up! I couldn’t even hear myself think but he was wide awake and focused on the road. He turned it down but I gladly took over for my turn so he could sleep while I put on something with guitar.
Al was a crack master when I met him and he took me to all the jtree obscure classics that he learned on. I remember being quite humbled and pissed off after spanked “blood and cut”. Al of course made it look like no thing. Just another jtree 5.9 . . . (I have since returned to master it, thanks Al!)
Al’s bread bag has also been glorified by others and rightfully so. Part of your belay duties while Al was lead was to fend off the critters. He never ate a lot of meat but sometimes had an avocado to go with the bread, he knew where all the Chinese joints were on road trips and we never ordered anything that could easily be made at home, and dinner at the crag was also about 5 lbs of noodles or so with some veggies. Al could put down the carbs and never gained a pound. He could out eat me on noodles by 2 to 1 easily if we had had a big day as according to him they weren’t that filling.
We shared a camp fire once in Hidden Valley with some San Diegoens and one was quite taken by Professor Al. There was a lot of conversation to be had and then the question of why Al hadn't settled down came up. I never thought twice to ask Al about such things, but he was quick to respond and did so perfectly, “Well I guess I’m married to the rock” he replied with his enthusiastic smile and that was that.
My first climbing trips to Josh, Tahquitz, Yosemite, and a number of sport climbing spots areas not worth mentioning were with him; those memories I will cherish. He was taken from us too soon. A new set of mountains are calling Al, now go! God speed my good friend.
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