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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 28, 2016 - 04:13pm PT
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I suppose if I have to ask I can't afford it anyway
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Aug 28, 2016 - 04:20pm PT
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No sh*t man.
What's a po man to do?
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Aug 28, 2016 - 04:31pm PT
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Get a job you cheap hippy scum.
That is your option.
Welcome to "Indepent Ideas", brought to you by PepsiCo and Halliburton.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 28, 2016 - 04:33pm PT
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$390 for Burning Man = burned out man .......
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 28, 2016 - 04:38pm PT
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You can camp there for free on any of the other 51 weekends this year.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 28, 2016 - 04:48pm PT
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$390 for Burning Man = burned out man .......
$390 for Burning Man = sold out man .......
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Gunkie
Trad climber
Valles Marineris
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Aug 28, 2016 - 05:42pm PT
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Burning Trustafarian Man
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Aug 28, 2016 - 06:09pm PT
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What Chaz said.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 28, 2016 - 06:12pm PT
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^^^^^^ HaHaHaHa!
It's gotten so bad even my horribly confused metrosexual nephew is going.
That's the de facto end of that shizz.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Aug 28, 2016 - 06:56pm PT
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Sounds cheap. You got tix to sell?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Aug 28, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
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make that two tix....
and dang... that's cheap. i thought they were more. maybe i'll roll the sushi trailer out there next year. Gotta use it for something since SushiFest is ending.
got a buddy that is biking from The Peoples Republic to BRC
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 28, 2016 - 07:43pm PT
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"Narcissistic gloat-fest"
That's my vote. It's all the rage in today's society (and politics).
Art imitates life, muthaf*#kah!
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Aug 28, 2016 - 10:16pm PT
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$100 to 200 per day seems doable for people who don't climb. I've been. It's fun but it's different for locals. Cheaper. Lots of friends there. Just a fun week camping with makers of fun and creative things and experiences. No marketing or sales or spending money ( except coffee and ice that benefits the tribe.) but I climb so once every five years is plenty. One of my bros is the GC building the man this year.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Aug 28, 2016 - 11:03pm PT
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once every five years is plenty
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 28, 2016 - 11:11pm PT
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Art imitates life, muthaf*#kah!
in this case, life imitates art motherf*#ker!
with the only thing exposed is stoopidness
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jonnyrig
climber
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Aug 29, 2016 - 06:16am PT
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Walmart, Trader Joe's, Whole Foods, and Winco get overrun this time of year. You have to stock up on groceries locally about two weeks prior to beat the rush. There's also the "homeless: anything helps" crowd passing through the local gas stations.
Someday they're going to experience the fun of 70,000 helpless people stranded in the muck of a summer monsoon out there. Otherwise, looks like it'd be fun. I just can't seem (haven't so far) to justify the entry price and the time off work.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Aug 29, 2016 - 07:17am PT
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^^^^^ is that a dust storm heading her way?
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Aug 29, 2016 - 06:07pm PT
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$390???
You'd have to pay me a lot more than that to spend a week in the sun with a thousand clueless f*#ks. Some of the rudest, entitled dicks I've ever dealt with. Someone needs to do an "art project" where all of the burners (burn outs?) get on the big man while its burning.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Aug 29, 2016 - 08:33pm PT
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The folks really getting burned are the suckers that pay hundreds of dollars to roast in the desert. As it should be.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Aug 29, 2016 - 09:49pm PT
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That Quiznos spoof is spectacular!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Aug 29, 2016 - 09:52pm PT
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Germans soaking up a lifetime of heat in 3 days time in Death Valley...Karma..
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 29, 2016 - 10:16pm PT
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Wildfire thread candidate!
They gonna spray orange goop this year?
OJ will be heading up the torch relay this time around.
H. Rap Brown is dead / his spirit lives on.
"If America don't come around, we're gonna' burn it down."
Disco inferno
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Aug 30, 2016 - 01:32am PT
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its not that much money.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 30, 2016 - 01:57am PT
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About the same $ as a week at motel six
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 30, 2016 - 05:53am PT
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Let's go out to the desert to decommodify the country but first let me charge you four bills to make money off you while you speak out against people making money.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Aug 30, 2016 - 06:04am PT
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First heard of it about 15 years ago. Kinda figured my knowing about it meant it had become mainstream... losing its cachet.
Trust funders checking off their bucket list.
It ain't no Good Time Boogie ;-)
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 30, 2016 - 06:37am PT
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About the same as a week at motel six
Or half a night at a nice hotel in London or Paris, in one of the cheap rooms.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Aug 30, 2016 - 06:51am PT
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DMT +1
Living in Boulder and hanging with the crowd I do I know a lot of burners. Some of the best people I know. One thing for sure - they could really care less about what others do to have fun.
The Thursday Night Cruiser Ride will be small the next two weeks.
"Hey you kids get off my lawn" signs would sell well around here...
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Aug 30, 2016 - 06:53am PT
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Arg, Dingus, that's more crap chip seal, Satan's own repaving technique. As an occasional road biker and long distance bike tourist, I hate that stuff with the heat of a thousands suns. A POX on all chip seal, which is, unfortunately, pretty much the default repavement these days. Oh well....
I'd kinda like to go to BM, but the astronomical hassle and crowds have never been my thing. Here's another activity in the wilds of Nevada, actually AT BM (Battle Mountain), that I'd also like to attend--a unique event for cycling geeks:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
BAd
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Aug 30, 2016 - 08:20am PT
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Goddamn! Road bikers are the biggest pussies!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Aug 30, 2016 - 09:08am PT
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it ain't no good time boogie
It's what you make of it...
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Aug 30, 2016 - 09:32am PT
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Both those videos, the Quiznos and the bicycling, were very cool!
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Aug 30, 2016 - 01:18pm PT
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Most likely too late to grow a beard. Do not use your car to get there. Arrive and go home when it is dark. Do not even think about taking your phone buy a couple of throw away ones. Take photos using a camera. Pay cash for everything. Take four/five tee shirts, four/five sets of sun glasses, 10 different head coverings change every 4-5 hours. Never use your real name. Always look straight when looking at things, never up towards the sky. Look down by using your eyes and try to find little bugs that do not move. Listen for funny noises. Oh! and smile.
You should be fine.
Some things will never change.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Aug 30, 2016 - 02:41pm PT
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ski goggles for the sand storms
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Aug 30, 2016 - 03:14pm PT
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I like the artistic costumes and constructions, and would like to go for one day, once. But there is no way I could stand it much longer I'm pretty sure. I know there is sober places there but for the most part - way too much drug use to have any appeal to me.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Aug 30, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
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Last year I saw a bunch of flyers in the little bishop airport (Thai Thai) about how not to get raped at burning man.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 30, 2016 - 04:09pm PT
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Funny. I wouldn't think one would need a flyer to inform them on that.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Aug 30, 2016 - 05:54pm PT
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You get a bunch of ditzy girls walking around naked and higher than a silver weather balloon plus a solid handful of creepy guys hopped up on whiz-bangs...you gotta print a flyer.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Aug 30, 2016 - 07:37pm PT
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Definitely Don't Go. It's not for you. You should go to Las Vegas or Cabo and get a condo with a pool. BurningMan is for geeks.
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yedi
Trad climber
Stanwood,wa
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Aug 30, 2016 - 07:42pm PT
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Looks like it'd be fun for a day or two. Get high, ride my bike around, take some photos. I'd go.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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You can flood a desert with 200 gallons of water?
Fits in a three foot cube.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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What Yedi said. A bike cruise and photo sesh, then outta there.
BAd
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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The camp has drawn criticism over the years for engaging in behavior counter to the "self-reliance" spirit of Burning Man. It's considered a "plug-and-play" camp, where burners from London, New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco drop in and enjoy luxury accommodations, rather than rough it in a tent on the desert floor.
awww, even burners can get butthurt. fucing ruskies! What will this world succumb too next?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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A refuge for white rich kids
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Burning Man is like travelling to India. People who have never been have lots of misconceptions. Once you get there you get a better perspective.
This NOT a hippie event. Half of the people seem to be full on raver types (I wish they would stay at home) but the other half are cool.
Rule #1: Only people who have been there are allowed to bitch about it.
Rule #2: Once you have gone there a few times you will bitch a lot about it, may hate many things about it, but will still want to go again.
I did not go this year but will go again sometime in the future.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Anyone going to do a photo tr from this year?
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Got caught in a Burner/Labor Day traffic jam on the 395. Backed up a mile or so outside of Lone Pine, then again for miles through Olancha.
Dudes were bailing off the highway in trucks and trying to follow the power line and aqueduct maintenance roads to get around it. The Inyo County sheriff was not amused.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I got to Olanche via 190 about noon and the traffic was a breeze! I expected way worse.
On the way up Fri night we passed some Burners headed up. They had to be Burners
given their rigs and the way they were driving. It was just like India.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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I got to Olanche via 190 about noon and the traffic was a breeze!
[Click to View YouTube Video]
We didn't get down from Taboose until 1. You could tell the returning burners by the distinctive gray dust covering everything.
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Never been to burning man. But when I managed Avery Ranch we got to see what the organization was all about. Burning man organizers hosted the Symbiosis, an official "afterburn" at our spot. Basically the directors were rude, capricious, entitled as#@&%es. They trashed the place for three days then split. The focus of the event was extacy, LSD, Methamphetamine, synthetic mescaline, mushrooms and GHB. We had to police the woods for rapists who gave free water in bottles laced with GHB to young girls who passed out and got dragged into the woods. A helicopter had to come evac someone who overdosed. The crowd were really weird and very suspicious of anyone whos pupils werent fully dilated. The music was so loud that we got complaints from 14 miles away. There were girls with baskets of drugs that were identified by different colors of foil. We gave up our cabins to the event organizers and ended up sleeping in tents that they stole when they left. The director never returned my email requesting they return my property. These guys are a bunch of greedy locusts who burn everyone they do business with. Real trustafari. The only good thing about burning man is that some cool people go there and do cool things. But the organizers are trustafarian drug thugs. I have been on Whole Earth Festival staff for years. We do a three day festival for free. No cost of admission, no alcohol and no open drug use. I spent months and alot of my own money managing WEF because we are dedicated to our cause. Thus I resent the burning man directors because they are now millionaires who give the Earth movement a bad name for profit.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Sounds like Chainsaw ran into the DPW (Department of Public Works) folks. They are very rowdy. Their parade at Burning Man looks like a collection of Mad Max vehicles.
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Majid_S
Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
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Another American enterprise and one day tickets are sold on ebay for $10000
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yedi
Trad climber
Stanwood,wa
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burningmanhateweek.tumblr.com
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chainsaw
Trad climber
CA
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Alright You are right DMT, I was being an as#@&%e saying all that. Im still butthurt and I should just get over it. Was once owner of a successful festival. Got shutdown by county supes who own Ironstone Amphitheater near where we operated. They saw how we did and took our event away to host theirs. So I guess Im jeallous too. Sorry my bad.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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hardcore reportage chainsaw. avery ranch guys were late sixties high school buddies, followed 'em through the years on pescadero creek and the move up to the ranch. their vision for the place was a revelation* to me, and i was witness to the results of their efforts till maybe mid '80s. i'm offended too.
the whole earth approach had actual merit and i feel your pain
*as in what makes a kitchen a "commercial" kitchen? ... and thanks guys
for turning me on to bang and olufsen gear and the creed taylor jazz label back when nixon was still in office
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http://www.uniondemocrat.com/csp/mediapool/sites/UnionDemocrat/Entertainment/story.csp?cid=3798405&sid=764&fid=151
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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You could tell the returning burners by the distinctive gray dust covering everything.
I flew out of Reno last year just after Burning Man. All the airlines had these huge plastic bags and they were making the burners put their dusty luggage in them at check-in.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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You will never get all the dust out of your car or your body.
I saw one car on the playa covered with a tarp. The combination of high winds and gritty dust resulted in a paint job that looked like someone took a sander to it.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Burners still traveling south on 395...Spied a caucasian couple in Bridgeport today driving a brand new Black Chevy Yukon with spendy rims...Dreadlocks below waistline and camo...The only thing missing were the 2 kids with matching dreads like mom and dad a la Joe Dirt...
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ladyscarlett
Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
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Gosh, it all sounds so scarey.
But who can resist the flaming things?
Yosemite had its firefalls, Burners have the Burn.
Fire art is so kewl! and hard to find on the west coast on a large scale!
Yay big flaming stuff!
Cheers
LS
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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What does it cost to fly in this year? Those rich kids wanted to charter helicopters, and bring them right into the center of the event, covering everything with that alkaline dust that's out there. They allow people to fly in somewhat nearby. I guess the rich guys send the limos out there early, so that they'll be there when the Gulfstreams touch down.
If you want to go to Burning Man twenty years ago, it's out in the Mojave Desert, at California City. I don't know what it's called, but I think it's free, and it is much looser with the rules. I know a couple that go each year, and the guy says people go out there and blow things up with rather sizable homemade ordnance. It's like a cross between Burning Man and the Road Warrior Mad Max movie.
I'm going to give that guy a bunch of aluminum shavings and a big bottle of crystal Drano, so he can make hydrogen there, and reproduce the Hindenburg disaster on a small scale. He'll have to make the rigid skeleton himself out of bamboo strips obtained from cheap window blinds, but that should be pretty easy.
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Dingus McGee
Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
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Monolith,
the male character in your link post who describes [tries] what burning man is like reiterates to the female that everything is free at Burning Man.
Did he forget:
$390 for Burning Man?
Perhaps he lost his soul too while there?
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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I wouldn't go to burning man for the same reasons I wouldn't take a cruise:
~paying to be around uninteresting people
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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I as driving on 80 today in The Tahoe and Nevada area and kept seeing (about 15) really weird vehicles like something out of Mad Max. Then it dawned on me...I'm sure they had been at Burning Man. Like a camp trailer I passed with the sign "Burn Baby Burn".
Someday maybe I'll go. But I'm getting a little too old.
Susan
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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it's always funny, listening to/reading words from the haters...
notice how their numbers are 100% comprised of those who've never been?
and that of those of who actually go, if they have anything bad to say, it's only to say that it's not as good as it once was? but not that it was never worthwhile or even that at this point it's completely worthless if one has never been?
pretty much tells you all you need to know.
as always life is for the living and it is only the already dying/dead who stand on the sidelines and take misinformed and conjecture based potshots at those actually out there being.
in short and imesho, as long as we live in a society and culture which is grounded in a violence based sustaining of unnecessary insecurity and therefore a subsequent slavery based foundation for exchange, burning man will be a worthwhile temporary exploration for anyone interested in what the experience of increased individual freedom might be like if we cast off more of the unnecessary and codependent control mechanisms that we enforce on each other...
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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as always life is for the living and it is only the already dying/dead who stand on the sidelines and take misinformed and conjecture based potshots at those actually out there being.
yahOOOoooooooooooooo
in short and imesho, as long as we live in a society and culture which is grounded in a violence based sustaining of unnecessary insecurity and therefore a subsequent slavery based grounding of exchange, burning man will be a worthwhile temporary exploration for anyone interested in what the experience of increased individual freedom might be like if we cast off more of the unnecessary and codependent control mechanisms that we enforce on each other...
that's cOOOl!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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thinking maybe 10th anniversary of SF doesn't happen and I save it up and drag the All-IN v.3 (along with the SushiCart) to the burn next year.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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People who go should realize that the original intent is gone.
It's not a hippie fest, it's about making money.
Where does that money go?
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Take a dump, jebus. You sound like Ron A. or 10b. It's easy to criticize anything but critique requires knowledge not just opinion.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Hey this is just a weeklong party with lots of interesting art.
Don't try to read any cultural significance into it as the idea of changing the world is horsesh**.
It is also a great forum for creative people to show off their stuff.
I have met some truly amazing people there.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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hahaha Jebus...
it's a good thing you quoted me, 'cause otherwise i might not have realized that that was a response to what i'd written... while i'm assuming what you wrote was mostly just an attempt at casting out a shiny lure, i'm happy to offer the following clarification: you'll notice i didn't say anything about those who don't choose to go... was just talking shIt about those who talk shIt with out going...
but i'm sure you already knew that... so... carry on... and enjoy!
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Okay Jebus, you tell me , what do we think of haters hating on something about which they are largely ignorant?
Like I said, take a dump, your outlook is sh#t.
Haters ain't makers and they are takers and fakers.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
70,000 people I'd rather meet than you, bitchy guy.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Playa Name:
Nobody
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Let's start this page right.
Some of my closest friends built an interactive bike course enjoyed by about 20,000 riders out there. They give a huge amount of effort and are rewarded in their hearts and souls, knowing they've given a few people respite from the "default world" ( aka frontcountry). I've only been twice and have criticisms as well but the same overuse problems exist in wilderness education.
We are a consumer society. That's it. And if you get a unique chance to see what things look like slightly decomodified in a social service economy, you might find yourself surprisingly refreshed and encouraged about humanity.
Faces enjoying life should bring you joy, not fill you with contempt.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Looks like fun.
I'd like to go just to see all the crazy sh#t.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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See it. Be it. Live it.
Man... I really thought tickets were way more. Next year just might have to happen.
And hell... if SushiFest at Indian creek what with all that dust as any indication I can pull off a burn with sushi.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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So Survival
One of the group Won BurningMan. He comes out of the Porta Potti and there's a Red Carpet and 75 revellers. He gets the crown and staff, walks the red carpet, climbs the platform and makes a speech to the cheering masses.
The early days of winning
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Don't be so defensive. Just a little pushback between friends. Sac? I hope you're thriving. No BS. When I hear a guy like you dissing BurningMan, I think, " You'd have more fun than anyone!" You're counter cultural and a critical thinker, you'd be laughing and smiling the whole time. I was catching up with our camp leader last night and he said " I was getting tired of having fun." Besides the Bike Course, they've started a Gran Fondo but that's another story.
The last time I went, I spent a week early working as an artist framing the first Bike Course. Participating in throwing a party and bringing people inspiration and a fun time is the unifying thread out there. And the 'owners' are just freaks caught up in the story. It's hilarious all the way around.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 9, 2016 - 03:27pm PT
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$390 seems pretty steep BUT it does look like a lot of fun and some great people--maybe someday if I get a job
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