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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 22, 2016 - 07:57pm PT
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Sorry, laughing my ass off with this stuff. It isn't climbing, but these people are really committing.........
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Aug 22, 2016 - 10:00pm PT
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Whoa, funny and terrifying. Some of those dudes got hurt. Yeah, cutting down big trees is a real skill. Yikes.
BAd
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Aug 23, 2016 - 12:37am PT
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as a teenager i worked with cutters, chippers and loppers and put simply, f*#k that. way more dangerous than climbing. the injuries were always horrendous when they happened and they happened often. the stuff of nightmares.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 23, 2016 - 12:57am PT
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I'm OK!
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Aug 23, 2016 - 05:24am PT
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LOL! good lessons there. Take note at 3:06. See what happens with poor position and a leader that far outweighs their belayer. Main thing to take from that is always have a video 'cause it didn't happen if there are no pics.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 23, 2016 - 05:46am PT
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Welcome to the last 45 years of my life,
or the daily potential for a near disaster.
Thanks, Winemaker, for the morning safety meeting.
Luckily, so far, we have had nothing close to the tree removal mistakes made in the video.
It's hard to watch.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Aug 23, 2016 - 06:24am PT
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Every year we see dozens of people with really serious injuries because of crap like this. We had a 20 year old a couple years ago die from it.
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 23, 2016 - 08:20am PT
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Yeah it's not funny.
I watched that video and couldn't find anything funny about it.
I cringed ......
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Coach37
Social climber
Philly
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Aug 23, 2016 - 08:23am PT
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I've never cut down trees, but it seems like you would want more than one rope pulling it in the direction you want it to fall? Like maybe two of them pulling at angles to sort of guide it better when it falls? Tension them both and it might fall in the middle?
Some of those are just Darwin award stylee. Like the guy in the boat, or the one that cut the tree below where his ladder was resting. That kid cutting though that roof beam has some great reflexes though!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Aug 23, 2016 - 08:46am PT
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Frightening. Very. Some folks got really hurt.
What surprised me was the serious situations the pros got them selves into even after they had professionally rigged it. I knew it was a dangerous job but that gave me a whole new appreciation.
The only "funny" was the lady in the background "I told you it'd fall that way"
Susan
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2016 - 09:47am PT
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Yes, the comments about it not being funny are right and I apologize. The only redeeming feature, in retrospect, is that no one was hurt. I had the same thought about two ropes, tensioned, to guide the fall; otherwise it's a barn door situation.
About cutting from a ladder, I just remembered an accident a guy I sort of knew had years ago. He was pruning a tree on a ladder. The chainsaw, held one handed so he could brace himself, bucked and cut into his face and into the bone of his forehead. He survived but it was pretty serious.
The son of my mechanic (when I was racing) had a summer construction job. He was leaning over an eave from the roof using a nail gun. He fired a nail into his heart. Fortunately no one pulled it out and he survived.
Should I delete this?
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Aug 23, 2016 - 09:53am PT
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Pro is a funny term. I didn't see much professionalism displayed in any of those accidents.
You may be right. I know little about professional tree trimming. The ones with helmets, harnesses and seemingly a lot of equip hanging off and rigging I thought might be the "pros".
It's the instaneous-ness that just blows me away. We've all experienced it be it a whipper, a fall off a bike, on ice or whatever. One second you are in control. The next split second, not...often with not nice consequences. Even when everything was supposed to be "right".
Susan
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Aug 23, 2016 - 09:53am PT
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STUPID Americans & others.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 23, 2016 - 10:48am PT
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the Rev is a long-time Woodchuck and owns several different saws and has witnessed plenty, I'm sure, of stupititty.
The man owns a dozen ladders, prolly.
So you would think that he's "too cool be be that fool."
But you'd be in error.Runamucka's now the home of hunnerds of dead pine trees in the red stage.
This damn-fool sub-project, limbing the oak, had to be done before the roof got re-done.
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eeyonkee
Trad climber
Golden, CO
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Aug 23, 2016 - 10:53am PT
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That is some funny, funny sh#t!
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EP
Trad climber
Way Out There
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Aug 23, 2016 - 11:03am PT
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Ladder falls can do serious damage.
While recovering from a Traumatic Brain Injury in rehab, I met a retired teacher in a wheelchair who fell while painting the side of his house. Paraplegic and cognitively impaired, he was damn funny and could light up a room .
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Aug 23, 2016 - 11:04am PT
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This is my buddy. He is somehow surviving the recession climbing one tree at a time.
Climbing rocks is a game compared to what he does every day to feed his kids.
Free Solo Aid with a chainsaw while you cut the mountain down above you. Then you put the Talus and Scree in the truck. And smile, please.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 23, 2016 - 11:10am PT
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I worked for a tree cutting company in 1976 when I was 16, I enjoyed the work, but in hindsight I am glad the company went under. It was run by lunatics and in hindsight there was no regard for safety.
I have a friend who fell out of a tree, disabled for life, mentally and physically. Very dangerous work.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Aug 23, 2016 - 11:31am PT
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Warbler,
The gear don't make the man, but the pros I know put the helmet on every time they start the saw.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Aug 23, 2016 - 11:39am PT
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W-W-What say?
(I never used ear pro, FF, when operating Frank's Firewood.)
I had a tin hat just like young Ben Stamper, though a lotta good it did them boys.
Whose turn in the barber chair?
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Aug 23, 2016 - 11:47am PT
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"What surprised me was the serious situations the pros got them selves into even after they had professionally rigged it."
Umm...most of what I saw looked like amateur night at the Darwin Awards. Tree work off of ladders. LOL, y'all are too much!!
Warbler, if you are an aspiring arborist ignore about EVERYTHING in that video. And don't tell people (at least arborists) that you use a ladder in tree work.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 23, 2016 - 12:29pm PT
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Several years back I rehired a tree climber who is safer than I am, although I'm still at it as well. He's one of the best in the biz, I tried out several climbers in my career and no one else could cut cut the mustard (muster?) by my standards, with a few exceptions. When he retires I might just hang up my spurs and close down the business after that. It's just such hard and dangerous work, there's no point in pushing it, when I've had mostly good luck for over 32 years in business.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Aug 23, 2016 - 01:02pm PT
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Warbler, sounds like you got it going on! I understand the helmet thing. I didn't wear a helmet for years and still don't sometimes. But I figure the odds of something happening become greater every day I am in the tree. Be careful up there!
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Aug 23, 2016 - 01:23pm PT
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I watched that again to find the pro's. A couple of shots were of climber getting thrown around after taking top off. That can happen with the best. The rest of the stuff was pure Darwin.
If this is the quality of work y'all get I'm available if you cover transport cost:)
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 23, 2016 - 06:27pm PT
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Hey Warbler, that was one of two 80' to 90' southern yellow pines we took out a couple months ago, we don't see those too often. I had been thinning and safety trimming those two particular trees several times over many years, but they were shedding limbs into the neighbors pool and so sadly, it was time for an intervention.
They were old friends, the customer and the trees. We spent three days on the removals and four days there on other trimming so it was a bigger contract for our company. I prefer working for private homeowners, mostly retired, and I steer clear of commercial work which is always a harder sell for my temperament. I've never been into being a hardcore salesperson or a paper pusher.
But mostly gone are the days of handshake agreements, no written contract or proof of insurance. Now days I have to carry half a dozen licenses, several insurance policies, a motor carrier permit for the dump, and an annual encroachment permit with the county along with a bond just to park a chipper and trucks in front of a job site. On top of that there's having to get permits to work on any native, heritage, landmark, or endangered species trees within Sacramento city or county, which always causes huge delays in getting the work done.
It's all such a pain in the ass, I tell you. At least I know that someday, one way or the other, I will retire. I think the best part of my job though, has been watching the customers and their families grow old with their trees, and to see the generations, along with their trees, come and go. 'I' is 'we' and 'we' is 'I' when it comes to talking about business, sorry.
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