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clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 17, 2016 - 06:34am PT
Which has longer lines, better concessions, or better lodging?

Disney has Micky and Goofy, Yosemite has?

Is there an uncrowded "off season" anymore?

When I was 15 my family did a combo trip to both. Camping at the River Campgrounds, climbing the Five open books, and going to the Curry run concessions beat Disney hands down

clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 17, 2016 - 07:26am PT
At $80 for a season pass for a car load of 6 vs. $1,200 plus for one day, Yosemite is affordable.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 07:41am PT
At last report, no alligators in Yosemite.

http://myfwc.com/media/310203/Alligator-GatorBites.pdf

mtnyoung

Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
Jul 17, 2016 - 07:43am PT
Shoulda used the past tense....
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:38am PT
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Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:39am PT
Didn't I just hear that Yosemite will host Sturgis West?
WBraun

climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:48am PT
Yosemite going the way of Disneyland?

NO ... you people are.

You crazy people have created the lunacy of gross materialism in America .....
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 10:28am PT
Parks are for bears. Keep the people out.
**
Denali hikers escape bear


As the hunt continues for a sub-adult grizzly bear with an attitude that has been threatening people near the Savage River in Denali National Park and Preserve, photos have emerged of rangers saving hikers from the troublesome animal.



http://craigmedred.news/2016/07/11/denali-hikers-escape-bear/

overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 17, 2016 - 10:56am PT
Savage River clue in the name, duh
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 17, 2016 - 11:12am PT
We are the children of parents who allowed this to happen.

Shift-the-Blame Sunday today.

Rumor has it that the Rangers are seeking permission to build their new Ranger Ice Palace in one of the meadows.Just an idle rumor, though.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:19pm PT
But first you'd have to get rid of corruption and cronyism, Locker. Fat chance!
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:28pm PT
The key to enjoying Yosemite is to find your niche. It's totally possible to visit Yosemite and not see anybody else at all. I used to do it a bunch when I lived closer.

Just regulate your time and specific destination.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:40pm PT
I think some of you are conveniently overlooking one of the Park Service's
major mandates - make the parks accessible to ALL. Apparently that has
been construed to include the concept that pizza is a necessity.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 17, 2016 - 01:51pm PT
pretty sure pizza is one of the 10 essentials.
kaholatingtong

Trad climber
The real McCoy from somewhere over the rainbow...
Jul 17, 2016 - 02:04pm PT
It is not too bad if you never enter a vehicle, stear clear of the roads and popular trails, and cook your own food... Entering and exiting seems best under cover of darkness...
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
Aramak is charging money to ride the shuttle bus.

The previous concessionaire is holding Yosemite trademarks hostage.


Disney's profit-fixation has come to YNP.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jul 17, 2016 - 08:42pm PT
Camp 4 always reminded me of Pirates of the Caribean..
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Jul 17, 2016 - 09:17pm PT
I don't know about going the way of Disneyland, but maybe just Six Flags Discovery Kingdom.


Riding The Joker at Six Flags Yosemite is a little different.
jstan

climber
Jul 17, 2016 - 10:09pm PT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahwahnee_Hotel#The_Currys

This source indicates YPCC actually funded the construction of the Ahwahnee hotel. DNC asserts
the NPS required DNC to buy from YPCC all the physical assets belonging to YPCC as a
requirement for DNC to be the concessionaire. DNC now wants Aramark to pay DNC what they
consider the true value of those properties including intellectual properties. As if "Go Climb a rock"
could be intellectual.

Here is my question. What about Universal Studios? They were the concessionaire replacing YPCC
back when there were real climbers in the Valley.. OK so it is possible Universal did not obtain title
to those improvements instead outsourcing to YPCC the provision of those services. I vaguely
remember there was another concessionaire in there after Universal Studios.

Complicated.

Edit:
Little did I guess.






http://www.upi.com/Archives/1991/01/09/Yosemite-concession-contract-to-stay-in-US/3685663397200/

WASHINGTON -- Interior Secretary Manuel Lujan announced Wednesday he had succeeded
in forcing Japan's Matsushita Electric Industrial Co. to sell its tourist facilities in Yosemite National
Park to a non-profit group.
The $49.5 million sale will be completed in 1993, at which time the non-profit group, the National
Park Foundation, will donate its property to the National Park Service. The service will then
negotiate contract terms with a new concession operator.

The deal will 'ensure successful future management and operations of one of this country's
magnificent wonders,' Lujan told the House Interior Subcommittee on National Parks and Public
Lands.'

But the arrangement also requires domestic ownership of the concession business at Yosemite, the
principal reason Lujan raised objections to Matsushita's $6.6 billlion acquisition of MCA Inc. last
week. The company's subsidiaries include Universal Studios and MCA Records.

Lujan repeatedly said during the hearing and later at a news conference that he wished to 'tone
down the rhetoric,' though he denied that he had engaged in 'Japan bashing.'
'Certainly not,' he said when asked whether he led a crusade against Japan. 'There was not any
Japan bashing.'
The complex deal means that MCA will sell the Yosemite Park & Curry Co., which runs hotels,
restaurants, groceries and a gas station inside the central Sierra Nevada park. Included are the
Ahwahnee Hotel, Yosemite Lodge and the historic tent cabins.
Robert Hadl, vice president and general counsel of MCA Inc., said Wednesday, 'The agreement
which was reached (Tuesday) ensures that the concession at Yosemite Park will continue to be run
and managed by Americans.'
The maker of Panasonic, Technics and other brand-name electronics had been under heavy
pressure from the Interior Department to let go of MCA's Yosemite concessions since the takeover.
Before the deal was completed, Lujan asked MCA to donate the concessions company to the U.S.
Park Service or sell it for less than its estimated value to the National Park Foundation, created by
Congress to receive private gifts to the National Park System.

MCA agreed that profits from one of American's most scenic treasures should not go overseas, but
refused to donate Yosemite and Curry, offering instead to sell it to an American company within a
year, putting the pre-sale profits into an escrow account.

Talks on that possible deal broke down shortly before the takeover was completed.
Under the deal completed Wednesday, MCA will retain the profits -- estimated at up to $15 million a
year -- until the transfer in 1993.

Yosemite, with its massive granite formations and spectacular waterfalls and meadows, has become
one of the most visited of the national parks.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jul 17, 2016 - 11:03pm PT
Yosemite going the way of Disneyland?

Nobody goes there anymore.

It's too crowded.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 17, 2016 - 11:06pm PT
Tone down the rhetoric, Andrzej.

Yosemite also has Peter Pan and Tinkerbell, in all fairness.

:0)
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 17, 2016 - 11:09pm PT
Not to mention The Crack of Doom, which got us into this fine mess.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 12:36am PT
Not to mention The Crack of Doom, which got us into this fine mess

Exactly.

5.10 is mathematically the same thing as 5.1, and the Crack of Doom is not 5.1.

I am old enough to remember when "real deal" Valley 5.9 was called 5.9, and it was not uprated to 5.10.




Even worse, the twin brother of the Crack of Doom was called the Crack of Despair.

WTF?


Chuck Pratt referenced J. R. R. Tolkien when he called the first Valley 5.10 The Crack of Doom.




Crack of Despair?????




Oh, but I despair . . . . . . .
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 18, 2016 - 02:05am PT
You'd be even more desperate on Despair as many have found to theirs. I try to avoid despair when possible. But I don't run the world, only my own, which is likely why I'm given to fantasy and whimsy, I suppose.

Personally, I like Goofy best of the Dwarfs, second only to Happy, who has to live under the bridge there with a troll maiden since they all walked out on Disney. He is tolerated because he's only fictional.

The agent for the Dwarfs, Mrs. Helga Von Sweatshop, was let go and they are dispersed to the winds, all but Goofy, who didn't know better. He's now a scullion boy in the Majestic.

There are reasons for their disavowal of Disney doings. However, I am not at liberty to discuss those.

zBrown may be more forthcoming. He bought his first drum kit from Doc's kid brother, Shocko, who runs a music store in National City.

Yep, they are a family of Mexican dwarfs. Shocko used to work in Small Time Big Wrestling, wearing a mask and cape and gloves with fringes. He was intimidating, once you stopped laughing.

But Tio Shocko landed the gig for Doc with Disney. Something to do with a horse's head in Walt's bedroom...
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 02:11am PT
Too much . . . NO, wait . . . . . not enough . . . .. .
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 18, 2016 - 08:25am PT
Too much of nothing
Can make a man a liar
It can 'cause one man to sleep on nails
It can 'cause others to eat fire





Never thought to check The Bard, maybe another case of Dylan's plagiarism?

↡↡
jstan

climber
Jul 18, 2016 - 08:41am PT
I'll take s guess.

Either Bob Dylan or

Wm. Shakespeare
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jul 18, 2016 - 09:04am PT
This is news? Yeah, news, like they have on the fox television.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 18, 2016 - 09:35am PT
Is there an uncrowded "off season" anymore?

Yes. It is located 1 mile from any trailhead.

Kings Canyon is my favorite national park. Little infrastructure, just loads of backcountry
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 18, 2016 - 09:45am PT
Sorry Gary....one mile from any trailhead doesn't apply, 100 yards from any trail is more like it.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 09:46am PT
A few legal questions:
1. When park management was first outsourced, did the concessionaire have to buy just physical assets or intellectual property too?
2. Is there a precedent for overruling trademarks of public/national assets? Sort of like denying folks who register domain names of companies they don't own?
3. Did a private concessionaire create intellectual property beyond registering the pre-existing names of places or activities? For example, the hotel name, and the the phrase Go Climb a Rock, were not novel at the time their copyright was registered, but the arrangement of letters and font and logo might have been.
4. Can the federal government launch a suit against DNC for lost revenues related to false claims that block the use of the known names? Or maybe Aramark could launch the claim as the company losing revenues, with the recognition/assertion that the federal government owns the trademarks and Aramark is entitled to use them as part of the concession contract?
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 10:22am PT
When my wife and I did snake dike in October a couple years ago it was a beautiful day and we saw one person on the whole trip from glacier point to the summit and back down the mist trail.

If you want wilderness it's probably not hard to find but I don't have much experience in Yosemite.

I do remember driving through the valley on a motorcycle with my wife in the summer. We wanted to buy something to eat and couldn't find anywhere to park a motorcycle. That's never happened to me anywhere else. It was easier to park at Disneyland.

Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 11:36am PT
^^^
Agreed. I love the Valley, but the crowds have always made it a love/hate thing. The traffic (see my other rant/thread) has only upped the ante. I think I need to adjust my mindset to have the same expectations as when visiting D-land. The only thing that sets them apart nowadays is that at one place the scenery is man made.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 18, 2016 - 11:39am PT
The only thing that sets them apart nowadays is that at one place the scenery is man made.


I think you are far too impressed with Disneyland
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 12:03pm PT
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johnr9q

Sport climber
Sacramento, Ca
Jul 18, 2016 - 01:05pm PT
I have long advocated the removal of most of the development in the valley including the Ahwahnee hotel. Make all the toilets, Pit toilets and only allow tent camping, no RV's. There could be an RV camping area outside the valley maybe in Foresta. Maybe a small store with essentials and, of course, a place for the mountaineering school. I would also get rid of the cars (People that are tent camping would be allowed to bring their tents in and immediately take their cars to a central parking area maybe in Foresta). Bike trails would be added and improved. Hiking opportunities would be increased. Transportation in the valley would either be bikes or public transit.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 18, 2016 - 01:18pm PT
Good ideas but let me add.....close all roads at Yosemite West, Arch Rock and Crane Flats....Americans need to walk more. Get rid of all stores including the mountaineering store.
Oh...and don't forget to tear up the paving, I'm sure you could sell it to Bakersfield for beautification.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Jul 18, 2016 - 01:19pm PT
Keep the pizza and beer.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 18, 2016 - 02:48pm PT
You can long advocate it for as long as you want
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 02:50pm PT
It would be interesting to explore closing ALL car traffic within the valley, including for tent camping, to be replaced by a 24/7 electric loop train and supplementary golf carts for getting gear to tent campsites. I was on vacation on an island in Belize some years back, and golf carts were very effective as primary means of moving people and gear longer distances than people want to walk.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 18, 2016 - 02:56pm PT
No breath holding....hell, can't even get the cables off of Half Dome and that's in a (so called) wilderness area.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 03:09pm PT
I think you are far too impressed with Disneyland
Trust me. Definitely not the case. The Mouse and I have history. It's just that it doesn't purport to be anything but a big cash, sucking tourist factory. If the Valley should be so forthright.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 18, 2016 - 03:13pm PT
Hush now, the valley is geared to the masses....they've even kept some of the smaller rooms in the Awahnee down in the $400 range.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 18, 2016 - 03:14pm PT
Wilderness, that's rich. There's a full blown airport on the Kahiltna.
The Park Service is so hypocritical.
norm larson

climber
wilson, wyoming
Jul 18, 2016 - 03:18pm PT
It's not just Yosemite. Try going to about any National Park these days. The Teton and Yellowstone parks are beyond crowded. Too much available information out there for everyone these days. Kill your computer! kill the Internet!


Good comment about the Kahiltna.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 18, 2016 - 03:30pm PT
Then do it without the efin' pizza, MooseSushi.

Hating the concessionaire is de rigeur if you wanna be a Valley Climber.

Ignoring the crowds and just doing your thing is another important trait.

Fleeing from the Valley for the Meadows for the crowded summer used to be the way to avoid this plague, but it reached the Meadows regardless.

Now all we can do is reminisce and bitch about things.

It will be interesting to see what's happening in another forty or so years, but I'll no longer be interested.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Jul 18, 2016 - 03:51pm PT
Very difficult to imagine the move to no cars.

BTW, there are no cars in Disneyland!

Problem is, everyone has their issue to protect. Take this thread, for example. Everybody else has to give up their access, but we'll have tent camping (gosh, why would climbers want that?), and unlimited climbing access.

I say, get it all out. by far the best transportation would be monorail....can be built without closing everything, can see around, satisfying many tourists, allows removal of roads.

It'll never happen.

If Disney were running the show, it could. Usage would triple, but it wouldn't be a strain.
Don Paul

Big Wall climber
Denver CO
Jul 18, 2016 - 06:39pm PT
In Rocky Mtn National Park the concessions are outside the park, on the edge of it in the town of Estes Park. It's like the street of restaurants and bars you find next to a college campus. Its fun to go there but not part of the park itself.

Just imagine what Yosemite Valley would be like with no hotels or concessions. Or buildings. Also should reduce parking inside the valley. Take the bus with your haulbag of climbing and camping gear. The other tourons can take the same bus and get off three times to pose for pictures in front of Bridleveil Falls, etc. then complete loop back to El Portal. Should take no more than 2 hours per tourist if there are no restaurants for them to stop at.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 18, 2016 - 07:24pm PT
If Disney were running the show, it could. Usage would triple, but it wouldn't be a strain.

so would the price to get in
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 18, 2016 - 09:19pm PT
Tear out all the man-made stuff and shut down the park to all humans except John Muir and Walt Disney for a 25 year moratorium period. Solicit public solutions from the public in the interim.

BuddhaStalin

climber
Truckee, CA
Jul 19, 2016 - 02:24am PT
Or we can climb in the eleventy billion other areas of spectacular rock in this state and country.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 19, 2016 - 07:03am PT
Dam it......at 4,000 ft. The lake water should warm sufficiently to support an excellent bass fisherie. Additionally, there would be good deep water soloing over by the Catherdral Rocks.,
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Jul 19, 2016 - 07:07am PT
the jet ski capacity would be HUGE!!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2016 - 07:10am PT
On the drive to climb on Sunday I was describing the former River Campgrounds to my partners. JC, a geologist, descibed booking a cabin at Curry next to the rock fall.

Between the geological and floodplain hazards, a modern report would likely deem zero square footage of the Valley floor suitable for development.

Byran

climber
Half Dome Village
Jul 19, 2016 - 12:26pm PT
There's how many bigwall destinations out there that require backcountry logistics and basecamps? But I only know of one in the whole world where you can go summit to pizza deck in an hour. And you bastards want to take that away? Why can't you just go climbing at Cochamo instead? Or if that's too far and you don't have a passport, how about Hetch Hetchy?

If it was up to me, I'd create a bunch more parking (probably some multistory garages) and redesign the road system to facilitate traffic flow. None of this "day-use lot" across the street from the Village or the Lodge parking right across the street from Lower Falls. There'd be things like traffic lights and pedestrian footbridges with gates lining the sides of the roads where idiots usually try to cross (like they have on Las Vegas Blvd). I'd also greatly increase lodging by creating a couple dormitory-style hotels with tiny budget-priced rooms and shared bathrooms on each floor. There'd be a ban on campfires, which sucks I know, I like having campfires too; but I'd give that up to have better air quality. Maybe there could be a couple "community" fire pits at each campground. And El Cap bridge would have a taco truck and a restroom.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jul 19, 2016 - 12:56pm PT
Yep might as well go with the full-on Vegas design Style. climbing can be a crapshoot anyway yeah?
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2016 - 01:12pm PT
Byran, a bar on top of El Cap was on my wish list.

At least if Disneyland caught on fire the masses could escape. Does YPS have an evacuation plan? If a strong easterly wind was ripping, they would have 10 minutes to execute it.
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 24, 2016 - 06:54am PT
Yellowstone and beyond: Are the national parks being loved to death?


Last year, Yellowstone hit more than 4 million visits for the first time in history. It is poised to significantly surpass those numbers in 2016, the centennial year of the National Park Service. But behind all those cars and tour buses in the land of lodgepole pine looms a fundamental question: Is such soaring popularity good or bad for Yellowstone – and, more broadly, for the national park system as a whole? Can America’s outdoor crown jewels survive unmarred for another 100 years?


http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2016/0724/Yellowstone-and-beyond-
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jul 24, 2016 - 07:35am PT
Can America’s outdoor crown jewels survive unmarred for another 100 years?

That ship has already sailed.
Bruce Morris

Social climber
Belmont, California
Jul 24, 2016 - 12:13pm PT
Wasn't Yosemite - at least from the early 1960s onward - sort of like Disneyland already? When I was a 'boy', the tourists used to through their garbage right out the window as they drove past El Cap Meadows. It isn't quite that conspicuous-consumption these days.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Jul 24, 2016 - 01:56pm PT
Actually the NPS has made some great improvements over the years. In the early 50s you could stand on the Valley rim looking down and you could only see the tops of the trees poking through the campfire and exhaust smog. You could barely drive around the Valley for all the traffic at times.

My first job as a ranger in Yosemite (1959) was to be in charge of the Valley campgrounds. On Memorial Day and July 4 there would be 16,000 campers in the campgrounds. No reservations. They were not unitized - people could pitch a tent anywhere in the campground, park anywhere. Some would pitch a tent over the water faucets so they'd have running water. Guy lines often overlapped. One of the seasonal rangers' frequent jobs was to mediate disputes due to overcrowding. There were charred campfire logs and fire pits everywhere.

There was a dump over on the S. side not all that far from Curry. People used to go there to watch the bears, which were a pretty scraggly garbage-fed lot. Stoneman meadow was trampled flat by Fire Fall watchers.

There was another retail center at what was called Old Village, near the chapel - with a movie theatre, coffee shop which we named the Greasy Spoon and where much pre-climb discussion went on about the Nose. There was a Degnan's beer garden there too. Jack Morehead and I appreciated the place as we'd go climbing on a hot day, intentionally take too little water, and rush back to the beer garden after to rehydrate with beer. Damn that was good!
JerryA

Mountain climber
Sacramento,CA
Jul 24, 2016 - 04:31pm PT
In Spring 1957 ,i drove my brother to Yosemite Valley to start a job at the Curry Cafeteria in my new MGA .We took Big Oak Flat Road because I had read it was more interesting than the Mariposa route .Never had heard anything about any climbing there until some young people started climbing up the Nose of El Capitan that July .
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jul 24, 2016 - 04:35pm PT
You had a new MGA? Lucky bastard! Do you still have it?
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 24, 2016 - 04:49pm PT
Where another man's life might begin
That's exactly where mine ends


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BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 24, 2016 - 05:03pm PT
^^^that was cool. it does make sense right, to rebel on Independence Day!
JOEY.F

Gym climber
It's not rocket surgery
Jul 24, 2016 - 06:03pm PT
Thanks Z!
On my way out Saturday afternoon I counted 325 vehicles waiting to get in via the Big Oak Flat entrance...
aspendougy

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jul 24, 2016 - 06:48pm PT
Considering the huge population increase in CA, the increase in the U.S. and worldwide, the larger number of visitors from China & Japan, etc. Yosemite is holding its own. The NPS is doing a balancing act, all things considered, they are doing pretty well.
Gunkie

Trad climber
Valles Marineris
Jul 25, 2016 - 04:20am PT
I plan to 'Fastpass' Royal Arches and Nutcracker

zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 25, 2016 - 07:50am PT

Here is a list of LA City Parks.

Mountain biking is not allowed in any of them, not even on dirt roads.
In LA City Parks, mountain biking is only allowed on pavement, not on dirt roads nor dirt trails.





http://www.corbamtb.com/issues/CityOfLA/LACityParksList.shtml


Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Jul 27, 2016 - 10:57am PT
hardly a new problem in the valley

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Tioga_Road_(HAER_No._CA-149)_written_historical_and_descriptive_data


. . . . in 1929 Dr. Donald Tressider of the Yosemite Park & Curry Company proposed a cable car system to convey visitors from the Valley up to Tenaya Lake. An engineer from the Adolph Bleichert Company of Austria made a study of the route, and suggested that two cable systems would be required to span the long distance and two steep grades involved. Another cableway was proposed for Glacier Point. The Yosemite National Park Board of Expert Advisors seriously considered these proposals, finding some merit in that the cableways would alleviate some congestion on the Tioga Road. But in the end the proposals were rejected on account of the inescapable high visibility of the system and a fear that visitors would find trams an unnatural attraction, rather than a means of transportation. . ..
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