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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 4, 2016 - 04:42pm PT
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Someone had to do it.
Voeckler in yellow, Cav taking more stages.
Edit
Sagan in yellow. Brain fart.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Thank you.
Susan
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Alberto dice no mas.
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WBraun
climber
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Lance Armstrong will win again this year ......
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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My husband will be glued to the TV for the next two weeks.
There's already been the Vuelta, the Giro, etc etc.
Thank God for DVRs so I don't have to live thru it all in real time.
Half the time he's out biking, the other half he's watching it.
Thank God for climbing. I just had 3 days in the mountains doing my thing while he did his thing.
We make appointments for together time!
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Spectacular racing already! Poor Alberto got skinned on Day 1 . . . Lots of days to go. Allez!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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This is the first Tour that has engaged me in some time. Sorry to see Contador suffering.
I've always respected the way he rode.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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I won't be skipping any days this year
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Have they disqualified any Italians for hanging on to support vehicles...?
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Rob, I meant to do it last night and before!!!
What a great start to a Tour de France!
The washed out Cavendish blows everybody away by winning the first stage, **SURPRISE!!!!!
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Then....
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World Champ wins the second stage in textbook fashion, perfectly executed....on a slightly uphill finish...beating Alaphillipe and Van Avermat. YEP. Did you see how he forced Alaphilipe to lead him out, brilliant?
And then in only the 3rd stage the EFFING Manx Missile beats The Gorilla and Kittel and the world champ again. None of the commentators were even talking about Cav. Not to mention that The World Champ was right there...narrowly getting beat by the fastest men in the peloton.
Damn, I can't wait to see what happens tomorrow!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"Great finish"
Hell yeah!
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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He's going to skip the last week of the Tour?
You can see I don't pay too much attention to it, Ricky!
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Thinking the Manx Missile has picked up some serious power and speed from all that track work.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2016 - 08:43am PT
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All those miles and half a tire at the end. That last throw probably made the difference.
Did not think Cav could come around Kittel. The track time definitely paid off.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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I thought Coquard had it but......if only his arms were just a little bit longer....
Kudos to Kittel! He needed a win.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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I like Sagan, but a man bun.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Hey Jody, STFU.
Try some other thread where you don't stand out as an idiot.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Tami...what team does your son ride for...? rj
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Tami...good for your son...Not sure about the arygoles though...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Hey rj - My son rides for a trade team from Victoria, BC.
Remember when he would repeatedly climb up on the couch and then hurl himself off of it? I always figured he'd wind up as a high diver, not a cyclist.
And a question for all the TDF freaks -- is there someplace on the web to get a live commentary? You know, like the one Charles Pelkey used to do on velonews? It was just text, not voice and video, but it was great for following the race real time.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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It's considered a win when the peloton arrives a few hundred meters from the finish and the sprinters, who are useless in the montains or time trials, have at it?
That's the equivalent of a 90 minute soccer match that ends up 0 to 0 and is decided by a shootout...boring!
The Green Jersey is ridiculous and the so called "King of the Mountains" is never the best rider in the mountains.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Thanks Greg -- that was exactly what I wanted.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jim's just sour about the not-so-generous bike lane on Red Mountain pass up in those picture perfect hills above him.......
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jody, do you make the same comments on the football thread or the baseball thread or the basketball thread or the track and field thread or the soccer thread or the whatever sport thread....?
I get sick of pseudo fans criticizing cycle racing because of it's unfortunate history of doping.
It is the only pro sport that is actively and publicly trying to clean up it's act.
Right now it is cleaner than it's ever been unlike all those other sports.
And hurrah for Greg Van Avermaet!
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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< spoiler alert! > :-)
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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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@donini, if you had any clue how difficult it is to keep yourself in position to gain sprint and mountain points, you might reconsider your statement. The sprinters have to survive the climbs just to compete for the sprints. The climbers have to survive the pace of the flats and still be able to ride OFF the front to get the mountain points. Where is Hildenbrand...he can actually ride...I'm like a 17 handicapper on a bike. Let him explain it to you.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Comments from the inexperienced are everywhere and the internet is fertile like that.
Just think of the average Joe/Jane and what they think about climbing and you have your answer. Like tough guy Stallone in Cliffhanger!
Man, it is looking to be a bitchin year, I hope it lasts! The post Armstrong years are looking to be as good as the 80's with a sprinkle coating of the early 90's.
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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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People have absolutely no idea how difficult this sport is, and how difficult it is for the specialists. It's actually easier to be a GC rider, hence a lot of the sturm and drang over Sky/fROOMe (DICKEHEAD) pushing the pace towards the final sprint points.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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People have absolutely no idea how difficult this sport is, and how difficult it is for the specialists.
+1
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 6, 2016 - 02:00pm PT
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Le Tour is not for the faint of heart...
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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One of my favorite scenes so far!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Whoa...I'm not dissing the tour, it's one of the most difficult sporting events in the world. I just feel that the Green Jersey is around to make the flat stages somewhat palatable. Those stages are only for the most dedicated fans. The usual scenario is that there is a breakaway that is gradually eaten up by the peloton and a gizzilion guys are awarded the same time....including the guy who wins the sprint. Once in a coon's age the breakaway is successful and that can be interesting.
I really love the mountain stages where riders break down and the real men step up. The time trials are interesting in that they separate people out but the only drama is watching the clock. .
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Bike racing is addicting and in some ways is similar to climbing...the better shape you are in , the more fun you are likely to have...If you have bike raced i think it makes it more interesting to watch the large field sprints that take place in the Tour's flat stages...
...Nothing more fun than cutting loose in a field sprint and giving it all you got....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Tami...The Tour teams prolly get more pampering ( team doctor , team chef , masseuse) than your son's team...The tour guys are prolly riding bigger miles and are better adapted to suffering thru a 21 day tour..If they are cheating ( doping ) the dope helps them recover faster...my two cents..
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Curious what other folks might think of this : but these Grand Tours exact such a massive physical toll on the riders, I wonder if that hasn't informed some of the riders decisions to dope.
I'm sure it helps alleviate some of the pain and suffering of such a relentless day after day effort, but when it all comes down to it, it's all about money.
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Mike Friedrichs
Sport climber
City of Salt
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The usual scenario is that there is a breakaway that is gradually eaten up by the peloton and a gizzilion guys are awarded the same time....including the guy who wins the sprint. Once in a coon's age the breakaway is successful and that can be interesting.
I blame it on race radios. They take any uncertainty out of the breakaways. I know they are never going away -- rider safety and all that -- but I do think it would be more interesting if they rode a few stages without them.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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The usual scenario is that there is a breakaway that is gradually eaten up by the peloton and a gizzilion guys are awarded the same time....including the guy who wins the sprint. Once in a coon's age the breakaway is successful and that can be interesting.
Exactly. No matter how difficult it is, nor how subtle the tactics required to be in contention at the end, a long stage with a sprint finish is incredibly boring to watch.
Look at today's stage. Really exciting finish with Cavendish becoming the second-winningest rider in tour history (by number of stage wins). But preceding that was the hours of boredom with, as Jim says, "a breakaway that is gradually eaten up by the peloton and a gizzilion guys are awarded the same time."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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^^^^^ That's Euro socialism for ya - reduce everyone to equal squalor.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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The sprints are fun to watch, but the mountain stages are where it's at, for me.
Say what you will about Armstrong, and Pantini, but the Mt. Ventoux stage, in 2000, will go down as a classic.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2016 - 05:07pm PT
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Stage 7
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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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Tami,
Of course it does, and it always has. In the early days of the Tour, amphetamines were the PED of choice...which is why I find Greg Lemond to be such a hypocrite. The science evolved, steroids and HGH came into play and Lance found himself coming into the peloton at the tail end of the "untested" Indurain juggernaut. EVERYONE was doping, and no one could compete at the top of the game without participating in one way or another...Armstrong et al just perfected the art.
The stakes of the Tour is so much greater than the Giro or Tour de Espana, entire careers are born and lost. Sponsorship dollars are based upon TV minutes, and riders will do damn near anything to keep their sponsors logos on the tube. It's like a self licking ice cream cone...I honestly think that the peloton is cleaner than 5 yrs ago, but you know that there are teams or individual riders that have broken through to new science that boosts them and is yet undetectable. It's the nature of the beast.
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Oldfattradguy2
Trad climber
Here and there
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What Mike Friedrichs said, now if we can only turn him a trad climber again..........
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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GO CAV
GO CAV
GO CAV
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Willoughby
Social climber
Truckee, CA
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As a busy guy, I prefer the sprint stages. I check in with TiVo at the end of the day, skipping along to see if there's anything interesting mid-race, maybe catch some interviews, and then usually let it ride out at regular speed for the last hour, half-hour, whatever I have time for. The long mountain stages often develop over a period of hours, and that's tough find time for mid-week (but I do try to make time for the classic climbing stages, sometimes catching up with them several days after the fact). But the sprints are just plain exciting, always. Nice to see Cav back in good form.
And breakaways DO succeed. Not often, but sometimes. Pretty exhilarating when the sprint field swallows them up in the last city block of the stage. Some mathematician just published this formula for breakaway success, and apparently it's holding up pretty well with this year's tour, but it's a lot more fun to watch and see how things pan out:
X = distance at which the peloton should start chasing in kilometres
A = time gap between the breakaway group and the peloton in hours
p = speed of the peloton in kilometres an hour
v = speed of the breakaway group in kilometres an hour
c = 10-a
a = amount of riders in the breakaway group
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Donini is right ,It is just a bike race until the mountains.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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No, Jim couldn't be further from the truth. Every day for 21 days it is the biggest race in the world.....and not "just a bike race."
One stage makes a career...two is god...
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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+1 for dee ee.
and wouldn't you have liked to be a fly on the wall for the Froome/Valverde conversation?
added in edit *NOT MY PHOTO*
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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I love the Tour, but I'm a 60+ retro grouch, too.
I commute every day to work on a bike. No moral high ground from me, it's a short easy ride and by far the easiest and cheapest way to get to work. I do have to ride in the rain a bit. (hey, so does Ghost).
Dimension Data (Cavendish and Cummings' team) is an African team, and they contribute to http://qhubeka.org . That's apparently an organization that provides bikes to people in southern Africa. I effing think that' great, but I don't know much about the organization.
Just a Friday night post.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Why no women in the Tour De France?
They did offer a female version of the Tour, a few years ago.
It was usually won by the great Jeannie Longo
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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I love the Tour, but I'm a 60+ retro grouch, too.
I commute every day to work on a bike. No moral high ground from me, it's a short easy ride and by far the easiest and cheapest way to get to work. I do have to ride in the rain a bit. (hey, so does Ghost).
Yeah, those wussie euros with their fancy outfits and plastic bikes have nothing on us. Did you see today's finish? It was downhill. Downhill for fuksake! So why is everybody gushing about that Froome guy for riding a bike downhill?
I'd like to get him over here so Darwin and I could show him what real riding is all about. A couple of days trying to keep up with us would soon put him straight on who's a real rider and who isn't.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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10b4me...I believe Longo ( Ciprelli ) was exposed for doping...?
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Darwin
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Yeah Ghost, with our years of combined experience, we'll give Froome some tips on descending. ;-)
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Quote Here10b4me...I believe Longo ( Ciprelli ) was exposed for doping...?
thanks, rj. I didn't remember/know that.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Dang, I missed todays stage because I was climbing at Suicide Rock.
Tomorrow though.......
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WBraun
climber
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All glories to Darwin and Ghost for showing those euro Tour bike pussies how it's done .....
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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I'm going to say Froome has been in a bar fight or two during his off seasons.
How does that taste, ass hole?
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Pretty good left for a skinny guy . . . some of the fans are oc.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Some of the fans? I get claustrophobic and aggro just watching it.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2016 - 12:39am PT
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man, if i sit on my sack for three weeks i need some juice, jus sayin, wtf,
stoopid americans should learn how to compete,
cat 4 punks with meth bottles cut me slack now. VO2max60 won,t do it,
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 10, 2016 - 05:42am PT
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Salazar is out.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 10, 2016 - 07:42am PT
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Mountain top finish today! Breakaway is looking good.
Edit
Another spectator bites the tarmac. Bonehead
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 10, 2016 - 08:55am PT
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Good effort Alberto . . . you will be missed.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 10, 2016 - 09:19am PT
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Good effort Alberto . . . you will be missed.
That's too bad.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 10, 2016 - 10:09am PT
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See,you get near any mountains,it becomes bicycle racing,not posturing for your sprinters.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 10, 2016 - 01:46pm PT
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A "time trialer" who can climb!
Go Tom!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 11, 2016 - 11:41am PT
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He did.
Here is one of my other favorite scenes from Le Tour so far.
Kittel
Elation!!!!!
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 12, 2016 - 10:58pm PT
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Way to go team ORICA! Love your backstage pass work . . . what a great group of riders.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 12, 2016 - 10:58pm PT
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Forget your article...post the link to the Daily Distraction :)
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 12, 2016 - 11:14pm PT
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Le Tour is Le Thru.
AMGEN REIGNS!
our wines have arrived! our cheeses are almost there! and we own the breads!
GO CaLeFornia Tour!
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Jul 13, 2016 - 07:37am PT
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Thanks for the great race summary Bruce.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 13, 2016 - 08:33am PT
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Sitting in 4th is a passive Nairo Quintana, the only one of the contenders who didn’t take a swing at Froome on the final climb to Arcalis.
Bruce, you just could not resist, eh? HaHaHaHa!
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 13, 2016 - 08:49am PT
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WOW! Sagan is a beast!!! Starting to become a Froome fan with the way he is racing. Hopefully, he doesn't pay too much in week 3.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 13, 2016 - 09:04am PT
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OH MY GOD!
That was so great! Peter is the best and that Froome guy is starting to grow on me. Great move with Bodnar and Thomas although it looked like Thomas could barely hold on.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 13, 2016 - 09:14am PT
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There are not lots of riders who can beat Sagan. He's a rider like no other. -Mark Cavendish
Tomorrow should be good.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 13, 2016 - 10:49am PT
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Thomas was definitely "on the rivet"
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 13, 2016 - 08:45pm PT
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Giant of Provence tomorrow!
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jul 13, 2016 - 09:09pm PT
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Giant of Provence tomorrow!
They chopped 5km off tomorrows stage because of the expected winds, so the climb will only be 10k instead of 15k.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 13, 2016 - 09:24pm PT
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They chopped 5km off tomorrows stage because of the expected winds,
The winds are only expected to be 100kph. What kind of wussies can't stand a light breeze like that on a mountaintop? No wonder none of them climbs mountains except on two wheels on paved roads.
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Jul 13, 2016 - 09:31pm PT
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I thought today was going to be boring. I was wrong. Froome is a beast.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 13, 2016 - 10:24pm PT
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who is on the juice this year? Anquentil, Coppi, Merx?
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 14, 2016 - 07:57am PT
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De Gendt wins Mt. Ventoux
Edit: Froome has a mechanical. He loses the yellow jersey.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 14, 2016 - 08:03am PT
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Holy sh#t, turn into a running race, crazy race, 40 years of following the Tour and never seen anything like it.
They need to control the crowd and motor bikes on the course.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 14, 2016 - 08:07am PT
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and they complain that disc brakes are too dangerous
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jul 14, 2016 - 08:17am PT
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Much as I'm not much of a Froome fan, if they take away his lead because of the crowd and a motorcycle, that's just horsesh*t. You can't have the crowd influencing the outcome of the race.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2016 - 08:36am PT
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Agreed. I hope they work something out to mitigate the mayhem.
What the hell is happening to people?
All they care about now is their pitiful little selfies and their 5 seconds of infamy on TV.
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 14, 2016 - 09:00am PT
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order has been restored to the universe :)
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 14, 2016 - 09:23am PT
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I admit that I am not a Froome fan, yet, but the jury decision has given him a bigger advantage over his opponents than he had before. Why just not call it even?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 14, 2016 - 09:36am PT
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I'm not a fan of Fromme either but he took the race and broke Quintana, the f*#king fans are out of control as our the race organizers.
He deserved the time and the yellow jersey.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 14, 2016 - 09:37am PT
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Well, that was exciting!
Yes, they really only had one choice to make it semi fair.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Jul 14, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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I admit that I am not a Froome fan, yet, but the jury decision has given him a bigger advantage over his opponents than he had before. Why just not call it even?
I believe they were inside the 1k (that was somewhat ambiguous because they'd moved the finish line and didn't appear to move the flamme rouge down the mountain.
Anyways... they neutralized the results at the point of the crash. Froome had legitimately distanced his rivals, so he got some time out of it.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 14, 2016 - 01:07pm PT
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Gerran's crash was gnarly.
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 14, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
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BruceHildenbrand
Thanks for your excellent updates .......
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 14, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
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Finally a tour report that is decipheral...thanks Bruce..
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 14, 2016 - 07:58pm PT
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"Schleck Disease!" Harsh! HaHaHaHa!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 14, 2016 - 08:11pm PT
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The photo-motos could back off a ways - like a long ways. There's no reason a photographer's motorcycle needs to be within a hundred feet of a racer.
We don't need another tight shot looking into a man's ear canal, or another close-up shot looking up someone's nostril - which if you look at the second pic in Bruce's report, that's the shot the moto-photog was after when he stopped short, causing the pile-up and ruining the race. He wanted the shot looking up Ritchie Port's nostril, holding the camera low and close. He got his shot, at the expense of the race.
The insane close-up shots have been done to death the last few years. Backing away and disabling the zoom would make for better TV.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 14, 2016 - 10:13pm PT
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There are still 8 real stages left, nine total as the final stage no longer influences the general classification.
Froome should not have left his bike and taken off running . . . just wait for your team car and deal with it. He could have been DQ'd for such an inane stunt.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Jul 14, 2016 - 11:39pm PT
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Thanks for the reports, Bruce.
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:07am PT
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A "time trialer" who can climb
Congrats on the TT victory, today.
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 15, 2016 - 09:10am PT
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 15, 2016 - 12:42pm PT
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At the end of the 80s;) so many 5.11 road weary climbers got expensive road bikes and got
Serious about miles per week & such, one guy named Pete ?something, made the Olympic
Relay team, but was in a catastrophic Crotch Rocket motorcycle accident eventual losing a leg. . . . . .call those modern cafe bikes ICKM's . . . . IT Can Kill Machine
One of the 1st real scream at the crux as in primal screamers ever, 30 yrs ago
Jonathan Nabutt, did some distance record /time rides as well I think .
Now I'll have to go google the brothers Nabutt, the poor guy who lost his leg ? Not sure?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 15, 2016 - 01:40pm PT
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That picture of Dumoulin makes me wonder if he's not a time trialer, but rather a time traveller -- don't those white tube sox take you back to the good old days of climbing?
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 17, 2016 - 10:45am PT
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Big win for Pantano!
He was lucky Alaphillipe crashed because that dude was possessed.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 18, 2016 - 10:20am PT
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when I tell people that I love the Tour, there first response is to tell me that those guys Cheat!
and they say what about the guy that had an electric motor in his bike!
I tell them that I never heard about it, but I can assure them, it's not common practice
I looked it up, and couldn't find anything about someone getting caught in the Tour with an electric motor in their bike.
What's the deal?
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 18, 2016 - 11:46am PT
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No World Champ jinx this year
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 18, 2016 - 04:42pm PT
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Peter is the greatest! Kristoff had it but botched the throw!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 18, 2016 - 05:00pm PT
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Do they even bring a green jersey to the Alps?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 18, 2016 - 06:44pm PT
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The Canadian Ryder Hesjedal's video shows a wheel spinning w/o the crank moving, so there was no electric crank motor involved in that video
which raises questionssssss?
The videos of Swiss pro Fabian Cancellara are just amazing, he just pulls away like he could be aided w/ a motor, are we sure the video is not enhanced
I don't know what to think, it could be a yes or no
I was talking about with it my wife and she said it was pure crazy talk,
no pro riders have an electric motor in their bike
and she is probably right.
I guess my skepticalness on everything has rubbed off.
I should be very skeptical on this issue until Klimmer chimes in with some advanced alien technology that actually works and weighs less than a hidden battery power electric motor
I want to see bike weights before and after..
conspiracy? not sure.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 18, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
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Thanks for the links
we all need to look into this more and find out as much as we can
But It doesn't matter for this Tour
It's Pure Professional Sports at it's Best
if they get caught, throw em out and let the race go on
one thing that needs to be noted
No protests or terrorists have disrupted the race so far
and my prediction is that none will occur
It's been a Great Tour this Year!
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Jul 18, 2016 - 08:37pm PT
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Do they even bring a green jersey to the Alps?
Yes, all the jerseys ride through the Alps . . . some just have a more difficult time.
Sagan is not your garden variety sprinter, he is the most versatile rider in professional cycling . . . a non-cycling enthusiast cannot comprehend the intelligence, strength and talent it takes to achieve such a lofty position.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 20, 2016 - 07:32am PT
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Looks like yesterday's rest day wasn't long enough for some people, or maybe it was too long?
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 20, 2016 - 08:34am PT
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I hate the rest days
I don't know what to do with my self during the regularly scheduled beer time watching the Tour.
But nothing compares to the day after the race is over for disappointment.
You just wish it could go on forever.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jul 20, 2016 - 09:32am PT
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Craig...I just sit and have a beer or two anyway. Thinking yer doing the same! Hope Yer well.
Peace
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jul 20, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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My TV won't carry most of the other races
I only get channel 220
the other 2 channels are off limits to me due to my wife's control of our cable
If I ask to put them on our cable subscription, she goes on a long winded Tirade about how we can't get any more channels w/o our costs going out the roof, blah blah blah, and
"I can't stand waiting on the phone to talk to someone that's going to sell us 1000 channels we don't need just so you can get your stupid bike races!!"
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 20, 2016 - 10:57am PT
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another casualty of the Armstrong fallout...we used to get to watch most of the big races on tv.
Thankfully there is the internet.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 20, 2016 - 07:29pm PT
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Very interesting Wilbeer....
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 20, 2016 - 07:40pm PT
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LOL.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 20, 2016 - 07:41pm PT
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Le Mond is LeMan!
dunk that LeBron!
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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Jul 20, 2016 - 09:08pm PT
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Craig, there are more cycling races on the planet :-) !!!!
I like the Giro, Paris-Roubaix, Milan-San Remo, Tour of the Basque Country, and the Vuelta.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 21, 2016 - 06:53am PT
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Having a hidden bike frame motor would allow you to party harder after the stage and make riding the next days stage easier...Ever try riding up steep hills with a hangover...? Quit being so judgemental..
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 21, 2016 - 09:23am PT
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I can understand the motivation for someone near the top (money, fame, etc.) What always amazes me is when age classers do this stuff.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 21, 2016 - 09:25am PT
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Nobody wants to reprise Marlon Brando, at any age.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2016 - 07:51pm PT
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Beware the painted lines
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 22, 2016 - 08:01pm PT
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Great stage, Froome is a fighter.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 22, 2016 - 08:30pm PT
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There has been some back-and-forth on this thread about why many tour stages are boring, and only the mountain stages are exciting. But this discussion, with one of the most knowledgeable people in the sport, says that, in the current context, the mountain stages have become irrelevant -- just as meaningless to the GC as the sprint stages.
An excellent discussion, and worth your time to read: http://velonews.competitor.com/2016/07/tour-de-france/power-in-numbers-keeps-froome-in-yellow_415621
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Srbphoto
climber
Kennewick wa
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Jul 22, 2016 - 08:48pm PT
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Jonathan Vaughters (manager of the Cannondale team)tweeted that his best paid guy would only be the 7th best paid guy for SKY.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 22, 2016 - 09:14pm PT
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I heard this funny story about Vaughters when he was an up and coming star prior to US Postal living off of some powdered milk shake formula as he tried to lose weight...Maybe it was Weight Watchers...? that's dedication...
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 23, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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I thought Nibali was untouchable after he bridged up to Alaphillipe and Pantano but NOOOOO, from out of nowhere came Izagirre on the climb of the Joux Plane and then a fearless shredding downhill in the rain for the win. RAD!
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dee ee
Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
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Jul 23, 2016 - 10:17am PT
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....and yesterday, Kudos to Romain Bardet for the first French win of this year's Tour.
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