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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 22, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
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I hope you are "back" in the saddle soon.
You need crackers and rest
To feel better or best
When lying there all sore and glum
Remember, Dwain, that I'm you're chum.
And I don't mean shark-bait.
Please keep your tongues civil, Tacos.
CC is in a great big bad place with more "back issues."
Or not. Look who I'm addressing, after all! :0)
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jun 22, 2016 - 06:26pm PT
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As always, Dwain: my best wishes and regards.
BDC
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jun 22, 2016 - 06:32pm PT
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What's up if I can ask?
Best wishes to Cosmic.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jun 22, 2016 - 06:33pm PT
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Best wishes, Cosmic.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jun 22, 2016 - 06:35pm PT
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Hey Cosmic Bro
Hang in there and get better,
Best Wishes
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jun 22, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
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Cosmic, don't be afraid to give acupuncture a try.
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Jun 22, 2016 - 06:55pm PT
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Good luck on your recovery Cosmic.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:00pm PT
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Hang tough and be patient dude.
I have a good idea of what crippling spine pain feels like and what it can do to a guy. My sympathies and best wishes.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
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Sorry to hear this, Cosmic. Back pain is the worst.
Best wishes.
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little Z
Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
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sorry to hear you're in pain Cosmic. Best of luck with that. Hope you find some releif.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
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Salt vampires never die...take care Dwain...sounds hideously painful...rj
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:19pm PT
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Dude the back is such the weakest link in the chain..
Damn thing kills.. get well
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:22pm PT
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Like the other poster said...
be patient...
and don't worry too much...
What Locker (and the other poster) said. Do what you have to do on the medical front, and don't let yourself get too down.
I know, easy to say, but I'm not the only one on ST who has been crippled to the point of being unable to work or play, and wondering if I'll ever walk again. And if there's one thing I learned from the experience it was to take things one day at a time. Do whatever I could, and work at not letting myself fall into the jaws of the black dogs.
Good luck.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:24pm PT
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dOOd, we were supposed to go climbing on sunday?
don't worry i can fix ur back!
i got EVERY size hammer;)
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c wilmot
climber
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
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I have a pretty severe disc herniation that causes stenosis. I lost the ability to lift my foot off the floor for about a year.
back injuries are so painful while being deceivingly hidden
the one thing you should avoid at all costs though is surgery
their is literally a medical term called FBS- or failed back syndrome ...to describe the failures of back surgeries
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
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I think I reinjured it about 3 months ago moving a huge beer keg away from
some windows I was washing at a restaurant, and last thursday the home I was doing was literally the straw that broke the camels back.
Yeah, we are not the kids we used to be. As you say it is a matter of straws; they get heavier over time. Take your time to heal up.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
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Bummer about the back pain.
If it's an option, see if they'll give you a prednisone dose pack while you're waiting for them to figure out what to do next. It probably wouldn't complicate things and it may help.
All the best.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:37pm PT
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If it's an option, see if they'll give you a prednisone dose pack while you're waiting for them to figure out what to do next. It probably wouldn't complicate things and it may help.
I'm no doctor, but aren't there issues with prednisone and heart function?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:38pm PT
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I may have to sell my gear and truck to pay the deductable and the 20% after that
to pay for any surgery
NO YOU DONT. Obama will pay for it! Go sign up.................., .;.......:...............:............;...........?"
HURRY before trump wins;)
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:45pm PT
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Hang in there. If you do what you have to you will get though this.
Best to you.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
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Cosmic, welcome to my world. By all means have the medicos check it out for something
obvious and fixable. More than likely it will be neither. That said you will then find that you
can live with it and climb. My back goes out about once a year for 3-6 days. Then it
miraculously fixes itself and in two days I'm as good as ever, such as it is. Nothing I've found
does any good.
HEAL UP, YOU KNOW YOU WILL!
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:50pm PT
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Cosmic,
Hang in there. Stay strong.
Shalom, great Faith and prayers to you for healing.
Don't let them get you down in another infamous thread here on ST.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2016 - 07:52pm PT
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1500 deductable and 20% of 100% after that.
well that's great!
shop around then!?
look elsewhere than Nevaduh. UCLA cured my brothers liver diasese without cuttin him open. Doctor did call it a miracle tho......
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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Jun 22, 2016 - 08:01pm PT
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If your not climbing your not living.
I say time to give Locker your gear !!
Hope you heal up.
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c wilmot
climber
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Jun 22, 2016 - 08:02pm PT
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honestly Mr dingus it depends on the circumstance. if its a result of a one time injury then yes- surgery might be a good option. If its a result of chronic overuse/stress injures it is no bueno.
personally I have had several doctors openly tell me to avoid surgery at all costs
chronic pain sucks- but is better than losing even more function
all the best
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 22, 2016 - 08:07pm PT
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Best wishes, Cosmic. Can't be fun. If it helps, I've had friends who were in your shape and recovered enough to do the things they love, albeit a bit slower and more careful.
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Norton
Social climber
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Jun 22, 2016 - 08:08pm PT
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Cosmic
VERY sorry to hear about your back pain
stenosis I know, along with four lower spine surgeries, like you
you are doing it right, get a fast MRI and have the surgeon look at it
IF they need to do surgery I hope you get a fast appointment and don't have to wait
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Jun 22, 2016 - 08:49pm PT
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cosmic: while given the difficulty of the circumstances, it's not much: my thoughts are with you... that your livelihood requires a [semi-] functioning body, means i hope you are expediently able to breathe, intuit and reason your way [with the help of the requisite outside experts] through the twists and turns of the road that currently lies ahead of you...
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2016 - 08:51pm PT
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At least the brain, and one other part are injury free.
HaHa. (ok just 2).
is that the ComicalCosmicCragsman part!?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 22, 2016 - 09:02pm PT
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Positive healing vibes sent!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
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Jun 22, 2016 - 09:02pm PT
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Take care dear Cos!
Susan
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jun 22, 2016 - 09:03pm PT
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*
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Cosmic, Sorry to hear you are in pain and having back problems.
Good luck with getting some relief and feeling better.
best wishes
nita..
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jun 22, 2016 - 09:08pm PT
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Cosmic, You will pull through. You always do.
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Phil_B
Social climber
CHC, en zed
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Jun 22, 2016 - 09:13pm PT
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Cozmeek!
I wish you an end to your pain. Backs can suck. I have a friend who just had surgery for his stenosis and is happy with the results. He's not kayaking yet, but he expects to back out there again soon.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Jun 22, 2016 - 09:23pm PT
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best wishes from your manchild
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Jun 22, 2016 - 09:40pm PT
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Yep, you will dig it when you get healed up. Good juju your way!
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jun 22, 2016 - 10:07pm PT
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haas the bravecowboy ever been out of Wyoming?
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Jun 22, 2016 - 10:11pm PT
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I can sympathize, Cosmic. Last October I sat down to change clothes and was hit with a pain in my buttocks like no other pain I've ever experienced. A shot of morphine didn't touch it. But a ten-day prednisone treatment helped considerably. My MRI showed scoliosis with a step-off, multiple stenosis, and several herniated discs. I'm feeling a lot better now.
If I can come back at my age, so can you. Stay positive and give the nerves a chance to cool down.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Jun 22, 2016 - 10:36pm PT
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This is upsetting to hear.
I have relatives in town but I will call you soon.
It sounds like you have a great doc to see.
You are a good person. Rest up.
Phyl
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2016 - 10:36pm PT
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Very glad to be the conduit of vibes, Cosmic.
It's the least I can do for a friend who gave me a reel good resole job on the vintage Fires. No charge.
Thanks for being so damned persnickety and such a negative poster, too.
You suck in general otherwise.
Tie-dye is so passe
Not to mention de-classe
But no matter what they say
You know what they always say
So I won't say it again today.
Better soon, ya climbin' goon.
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Jun 23, 2016 - 06:28am PT
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Sending positive vibes. Get well Cosmic.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jun 23, 2016 - 08:40am PT
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Dude... very sorry to hear this.
I have suffered from scoliosis and some bulging discs and some other stuff I can't pronounce for the last 2.5 years.... I could not stand or walk for a (scary) amount of time.
Now just being able to walk 1.5 miles is a real joy.
Fixing these things takes time and work.
The numb feet are the worst, how do you rate numbness on the pain scale???
We are with you
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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Jun 23, 2016 - 08:46am PT
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Best wishes, Cosmic. I remember you talking with the ravens in Ryan CG.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Jun 23, 2016 - 08:46am PT
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Having endured a number of joint and pinched nerve problems myself I have a certain knowledge of how you're feeling. Surgery is a last resort, especially on the back. You're wise to pick well amongst the surgeons if you have to go that route. I'm pulling for you. Would like to one day soon do some "adaptive" climbs with you amigo.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Jun 23, 2016 - 09:11am PT
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Feel better cozmeekone. ;^)
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LuckyPink
climber
the last bivy
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Jun 23, 2016 - 09:34am PT
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Oh so sorry, Cosmic. Nerve pain is so hard to handle. Hope you can get an epidural asap. Sending you huge healing vibes
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this just in
climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
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Jun 23, 2016 - 09:39am PT
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Heal up and stay positive.
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Daphne
Trad climber
Northern California
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Jun 23, 2016 - 09:52am PT
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So sorry to hear about your back, Dwain. Hope you feel better very soon. I threw my back out a few months ago and I felt ancient and it was hard to have a positive attitude. Pain really sucks.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jun 23, 2016 - 10:45am PT
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Hope you can find some comfort between now and Monday -- and a real improvement then. Best wishes to you, Dwain.
John
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 23, 2016 - 10:47am PT
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Is your sister still ok though?
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jun 23, 2016 - 10:49am PT
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Cosmic,
I hope the pain is lessening and things are calming down a bit. Best wishes for a good visit with the doc on Monday. I know you will heal and pull through this and come out in great shape on the other site because you are, well . . . Cosmic, after all.
Sending lots of healing energy,
feralfae
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Jun 23, 2016 - 10:55am PT
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She's hot. You....not so much
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Jun 23, 2016 - 11:01am PT
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Dang Cosmic!
Wish I was closer, I'd come check you out and see if there was ANYTHING I could do to help with symptoms.
Peace
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Jun 23, 2016 - 11:04am PT
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Sorry to hear about this Dwain. Back pain sucks.
Good luck on your quest for relief.
Shoot me a pm if you wanna chat. :)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jun 23, 2016 - 11:07am PT
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Awe shoot I've been hanging back as well, now I regret not calling , I'll be sure to
Correct that,
Dang, twisted wrong & didn't twist back?
Whatever ....
Cosmic vibes and of healing prayers I hope yo saw your hawklike dominance
In the latest production from
Snooze Control...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Jun 23, 2016 - 11:19am PT
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Hang tough, Dwain. Hope you get some healing relief soon.
you've won an entry-ticket to Blue's Daily Prayers. You got a mention, so you have that to look forward to, should be feeling it soon.
Cheers, Dwain!
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Jun 23, 2016 - 11:47am PT
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I forgot to mention that a friend of mine, a climber in his mid 50s, had the same problems with stenosis. He underwent a two hour surgery by a well-known doctor in the Vail Medical Center. The procedure according to my friend was like a "roto-rooter" and cleared up his problem quickly.
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GLee
Social climber
Montucky
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:46am PT
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I've been off the internet for a while, & just saw this Dwain.....
Best Wishes from Missoula to you for getting what works for you, Cosmic!
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Jun 24, 2016 - 09:55am PT
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We're thinking of you Dwain.
Some things are bigger, that's all. It is what it is, that's all.
Not to seem callous.
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O.D.
Trad climber
LA LA Land
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:43am PT
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Thinking positively for you Cosmic, and your pops.
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couchmaster
climber
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Jun 24, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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My thoughts and prayers for your dad and your back are with you Dwain. Good luck.
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S.Leeper
Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
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Jun 24, 2016 - 11:07am PT
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Get well soon Dwain!!!!Positive vibes your way bro.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 24, 2016 - 11:45am PT
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Until you get that MRI and have it analyzed by a neurosurgeon I think you're taking a big risk by doing any sort of PT at all.
Words to live by from DMT. Don't diagnose yerself! Sorry to hear about
yer dad. Hope you get to see him. Heal up!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 24, 2016 - 12:08pm PT
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Good luck and positive vibes cosmic, you've got a lot on your plate!
OT, but in a way DWAIN can relate to... Interesting stuff DMT! All the " what worked,what didn't" but esp about the pot. These days in greenieland they have have the solutions for Everything, or so I am told 😎😎. I wonder if, these days, they would have more useful, relevant approaches than " smoking pot" that might have a ihigher efficacy in yor case (?) ( tinctures, strains, blends, etc) though I would keep the words of Dingus, close to heart!
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Evel
Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
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Jun 24, 2016 - 01:44pm PT
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Hey Man sorry to hear about your pop.
Good vibes heading your way brother.
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Barbarian
climber
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Jun 24, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
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[quote]Until you get that MRI and have it analyzed by a neurosurgeon I think you're taking a big risk by doing any sort of PT at all.[/quote
I second that. If I had done the stretching I wanted to do when my back went south, I would have signed my own death warrant. Fortunately my chiro told me to get to an ortho spine surgeon ASAP. He found a massive infection. Saved my life.
Get well, dude. Don't give up on climbing, just deal with the issue and, when that's done, tie back in.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jun 24, 2016 - 02:32pm PT
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*
Cosmic,
So sorry to hear about your Papa's health...)-;
Sending you a big hug..
Paz
nita..
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jun 24, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
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Dang, Cosmic. Hang in there. Better days ahead.
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drljefe
climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Jun 24, 2016 - 06:51pm PT
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Good luck Cosmic- hope things get better soon.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Jun 24, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
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Hang in there, man! We're rooting' for ya!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jun 24, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
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hey there say... oh no... backpains, are awful... i have a friend, she is going through some stuff, very painful as well... so can sure understand...
get well soon... the rocks, need you climbers, :)
edit:
oh no, just saw about your dad... :(
prayers for him... :(
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jun 27, 2016 - 09:26pm PT
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Way to go Cosmic...
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 27, 2016 - 09:36pm PT
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When the going gets tough the tough wash their windows.
I know in my gypsy heart yer on the mend! :-)
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jun 27, 2016 - 09:38pm PT
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Wow, how did I miss this?
Get well soon CoZmic, seriously man, I'm pulling for you!
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jun 27, 2016 - 10:49pm PT
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Cosmic,
I am so glad to hear that you are going after the source of the pain, and not just alleviating the pain. Because for sure, working toward finding and fixing the cause is the way to go! BRAVO! You will get better.
And I hope you feel some decreased level of pain every day, too.
You and your dad are on my prayer list.
Carry on healing, :)
feralfae
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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Jun 27, 2016 - 11:00pm PT
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Very glad to hear that things are at least getting better.
Curt
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Jun 28, 2016 - 08:49am PT
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We are all pulling for your recovery Dwain and best of luck with your dad's situation.
When you do physical work and are into physical fun it's truly tough when the body machine isn't working properly.
Hang in there brother and don't dismiss nonwestern medicine in the fine tuning. Accupuncture has worked well for some friends in relieving chronic pain.
I hope that you can push through all of this soon.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 28, 2016 - 08:58am PT
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Well, as I noted way back, which you might have missed as it was at the
bottom of a page, I can't even get out of bed sometimes, and that's the
way it has been for 45 years! Hopefully yours is fixable.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 28, 2016 - 09:55am PT
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Hang in there Cosmic....I hope you find the cause and get it fixed!
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Jun 28, 2016 - 12:20pm PT
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U ok I've been busy working call me
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Jun 28, 2016 - 01:04pm PT
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Holy wall of text, Constantmean!
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Scole
Trad climber
Zapopan
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Jun 28, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
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I see many patients with supposedly incurable back Px. Many have had every form of western diagnosis and have been told that surgery is their only option. That is true in some cases,but I find that chronic back Px responds well to gentle movment like Taiji, Qigong, Yoga etc.
In my experience, Chiropractic often exacerbates the problem, but acupuncture has great results. Unless there are actual structural issues, inflammation is the cause of most back Px. If you can reduce the inflammation the pain goes away. This is why Prednisone can work so well, as it reduces inflammation, but steroids can also have serious side effects.
I treat chronic Px on a daily basis with acupuncture, with great success
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jun 30, 2016 - 12:31pm PT
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Clean widows are a reflection into a clear soulthinking of you
Hope that those widows clean themselves, Iknow
they don't
Yet,?!!
be Well Cosmic
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 18, 2016 - 12:27pm PT
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Locker...... welcome to the club...
Time to find a young one to lug the Rope and the Rack around for you.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 18, 2016 - 12:28pm PT
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Have you tried just soaking in a tub of hot water? Works for me.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 18, 2016 - 12:43pm PT
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locker, I hear ya. I have an pinched nerve that makes my arm go numb in certain positions. Like when belaying. Not good!
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 18, 2016 - 12:53pm PT
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That's right! You guessed it!
Yer gunna die!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 18, 2016 - 04:16pm PT
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Best wishes for a great outcome Dwain!
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Jul 18, 2016 - 04:21pm PT
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Good luck Cosmic. You have a base, a lifetime of activity, which can help you pull through.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 18, 2016 - 04:26pm PT
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Hey there Cosmic & Locker too!
I hope your feeling less, less pain and less old.
Having a sweltering time here in small rock hell.
Wish I was there - they say it is a dry heat
Wish you were here - they say the chiggers,
die from dehydration when the humidity drops to 50%
Which is Never...
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Jul 18, 2016 - 05:50pm PT
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Things just keep getting better in the medical world, Crag. You're not finished yet. Hang in there.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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Jul 18, 2016 - 05:52pm PT
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You have a base, a lifetime of activity, which can help you pull through.
True words there. Good luck with the MRI, it's a trip.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 18, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
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How's yer Dad been? Still hanging in? Been there to see him?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 18, 2016 - 09:35pm PT
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hey there say, cosmic... oh my, just saw this...
my condolences, in the loss of your
dad...
we lost our dad, just a few years ago...
it was good you got to hold his hand...
as he passed...
we did not get to do that with our dad, at that moment...
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 18, 2016 - 10:28pm PT
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well i've been wonderin. i think you knew it was time
since you were standing by his side. how could he not but smile lookin at your mug :)
may God bless Dwain's dad(sorry i dont know his name).
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jul 19, 2016 - 07:17am PT
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Hey, Cosmic: So sorry about your Dad. With your back issues hanging over all that.... I lost my pops back when I was 39. It's a crazy hard experience. Hang in there. Best of luck with the Dr. and yer back. I've had issues over the years, some amazingly painful. Makes me worried about my old age. Keep us posted and celebrate the old man.
BAd
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2016 - 07:19am PT
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Thanks for the update on that, Cosmic.
I share your loss. We all do, of course.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 19, 2016 - 08:28am PT
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Sorry for your loss.
I am still lucky.... Dad and Mom both are still kicking the sand in Laguna Beach.
I do hope your back is getting better.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jul 19, 2016 - 08:30am PT
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Sorry to hear about your father, Cosmic. Never easy losing a parent, no matter the age.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jul 19, 2016 - 09:00am PT
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Condolences Cosmic, my mom's in hospice.
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jul 19, 2016 - 09:03am PT
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What others have said. Peace and sorry for your loss.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Jul 19, 2016 - 10:06am PT
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*
Cosmic,
One of the hardest part of growing older.. is experiencing the passing of our elders.
Thinking about you this morning and sending my sincere condolence..
La paz sea contigo.
Nita..
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 19, 2016 - 02:27pm PT
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Cosmic.... was your Dad WW2? Or Korea?
I know you are a product of 29 palms. Where else was your family stationed??
My uncle was a slick pilot starting in Korea then Vietnam forever... between tours he was at Camp Pendleton.
Marines are Tough, the first to fight, willing to go all the way. I salute your Father for his service.
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jul 19, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
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What Guyman said about the Marines. Bad. Ass.
BAd
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jul 19, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
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Wow, Cosmic, that is one incredible record. We all owe him a lot.
BAd
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jul 25, 2016 - 05:42pm PT
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Sending good vibes for the heal on it's own scenario!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 25, 2016 - 05:56pm PT
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I go in Friday for an epidural nerve block
I'm checking with my friend who has had severe back issues.
I second donini's emotion.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Jul 25, 2016 - 06:43pm PT
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So sorry! Rest as much as you can!
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Jul 25, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
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Hoping for the best big guy.
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Fish Finder
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 07:06am PT
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Hey Dwain
Sorry for your loss and hope your body can heal
I remember when you and your wife moved into your dads place
You posted some nice pictures of him
Hang in there buddy
Your tough like him
I will contact you soon , sorry I haven't been available
Best,Gregg
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Jul 27, 2016 - 07:50am PT
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Hang in there, Cosmic. We're all pulling for you!
BAd
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 27, 2016 - 08:29am PT
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Good luck with it....
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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Jul 27, 2016 - 10:58am PT
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Cosmic,
All good wishes. Rest and heal. Your body needs all its energy for healing, so try listening to some guided meditations for healing while you REST.
I hope the healing is swift, complete, and long-lasting. Be good to yourself.
feralfae
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 12:55pm PT
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Good luck Cosmic! You're one of the good ones!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2016 - 01:06pm PT
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Semper Fi, you old squeegie-wipe, just work slower and imagine you are on a climb. The mindset of climbing tends to make one extra careful.
Remember to take frequent breaks, wear a back brace when working--if you don't have one, why don't you? You're smart, so you probably do own one.
Since our talk yesterday I've been praying extra for you and the birds and your bride, who has to take your crankiness and keep your spirits up.
And use Davy Crockett's advice, too.
"Make sure you're right, then go ahead."
Some may argue that knowing what's right is impossible, like knowing the truth about anything. But you know what's right for you, no one else, just like knowing the "truth" of anything.
I think my own back has been having "sympathy pain." At least it's not terrible and it doesn't keep me from moving around, though it's highly annoying that it just comes and goes. I think maybe I'm at square one and haven't much more to say about that.
Good damn luck with whichever procedure you elect after the block, and may you find a briefcase stuffed with old twenties, rather than auction off your gear.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Jul 27, 2016 - 02:06pm PT
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Welp, glad to hear the problem pinpointed. Now you can atleast concentrate on that section of the spline. I know you had an accident, but many back injuries are facilitated by weak stomach muscles. Strengthening the muscles around your problem area will help eleaviate gravitys pressure, and pain. Look around the interweb and find some good skeletal and muscle diagrams. Familiarize yourself with the specific muscles wrapping your column, and search out exercises isolating those. Another thing you can try, eliminating all the pressure a little bit every day. Hang upside down. For you I'd start at a 45 degree angle, set up a piece of plywood, or 2x12 and anchor your feet at the high end and let gravity stretch your back.
These two things can help tremendously, but you gotta become religious about it! Make up your mind to get BETTER, and you will!
I'll keep praying tho just in case;)
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Jul 27, 2016 - 02:23pm PT
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+1 for inversion. It helps me.
I'm looking at unavoidable surgery in probably a decade or less. T4-7.
Good luck man. I feel it every day too.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Jul 27, 2016 - 03:51pm PT
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Heal Up Ole man!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2016 - 04:19pm PT
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hhhhhhhhh
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 08:52pm PT
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Dwain,
Your in my thoughts. Get Well. DLC
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jul 27, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
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Rock on, Cosmic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fish Finder
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 09:01pm PT
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Really Russ
Captain of industry
Tech Savy
Guy like yourself
Can't translate #homolips =
"Keep Your Chin Up"
hahaha
I think it was you Mussy who taught me what
San Francisco Slippers are
Hey let's not forget this thread is about Cosmic's knee ,
I mean back
Dwain come on up and sit a spell!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Jul 27, 2016 - 09:06pm PT
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The kayak just resigned from the chair of the DNC...
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Fish Finder
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 09:17pm PT
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Everywhere
and Cosmic has ridden your kayak when his back was better
I hope he can again
That thing has come in handy the last 2 decades ive had it
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Russ Walling
Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
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Jul 27, 2016 - 09:29pm PT
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FF: HIt that thing with a mild bleach solution and get it back down here. I gots plans. Have the Blade bring it down. Thank you in advance. Tape a C note too it also, for rent.
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Jul 27, 2016 - 09:51pm PT
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Dude, I am just tuning in after months away.
Sorry to hear your ailing. Good luck Bro and Gods speed
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Fish Finder
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 09:55pm PT
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Deja Vue
Didn't you post that same post last year?
I'm in the works for a couple new ones and since I promote the crap outta @oceankayaks on on Instasnatch they are going to give me the brah deal
Isn't that thing like 30 years old
Tuff rig
And oh yeah all you tacos can find me there @gregggowest
C Ya Mustard
I will make the effort and paddle it down to the desert
I owe your climbing partner (practice wife) breafest
Hay check out me and Susan Summers , couldn't get her off me
Edit: I've never heard of a mild bleach solution and how is it that Mc Donald's is the lowest in the fast food chain yet they serve fancy ketchup
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Fish Finder
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 10:01pm PT
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Ok Mussy you got me but I swear this is my new Bae
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Fish Finder
climber
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Jul 27, 2016 - 10:05pm PT
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God Bless A Miracle and Cosmic
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Jul 28, 2016 - 06:16am PT
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I know a little about lower back injury
(bushman routine)
Ice
Rest
Ice
Bicycle
Ice
Sleep
Ice
Work
Ice
Sleep
(Repeat)
Splurge, oops
Start over
Lift wrong, oops
Start over
Overdo it, oops
Start over
Losing a few pounds a month
Back getting stronger
Less pain
Still not pissing blood
I feel your pain, Cosmic
Hang in there
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 28, 2016 - 08:53am PT
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Hang in there ......
but you have always hung tough.
Have you ever thought about growing your bizz?
Many of my friends who have-had hard work company's were able to stop being the only grunt worker and become the supervisor, salesman, bossman and brains behind the operation.
I know you are successful because you do top notch work and your customers are happy.
All the best, to you, get better- you still owe me a climbing trip and I have been looking forward to that 5.4D you were telling me about.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2016 - 09:12am PT
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The scar on the other side of the knee is bigger, mouse.
OMG, they took your left thumb, too?
"I never noticed."
:0)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 29, 2016 - 03:45am PT
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Have at it - thinking about you,sending healing vibes , no jibes - be strong and well,
good luck today, from all of the tribe.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 29, 2016 - 08:20am PT
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have fun.... those shots are a blast.
hope they help.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Jul 29, 2016 - 01:51pm PT
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Happy to hear everything went well.
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Sioux Juan
Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
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Jul 30, 2016 - 02:59pm PT
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get good soon ! !.............
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Jul 30, 2016 - 11:38pm PT
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Jul 31, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
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Gentlemen of high standing and moral purpose have long since dispensed with referring to African American men as "boys". Thought you'd want to know. Carry on.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2016 - 08:09pm PT
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The Beast to you beyoth, MD & CC.
What can a poor boy do except to play in a rock n roll band
The song they play is compromise solution
And they can't get no satisfaction
Ain't no place in Vegas Town for a brokedown window man
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 31, 2016 - 08:29pm PT
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Your boy is different from boy
Your boy Reagan
Your boy LBJ
Your boy Mike Tyson
So I'm as stooped as you others for talking about it
You want to get screwed by insurance companies just keep on bending over
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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did you boy's know;
that the term "Cowboy" came from the southern plantation owners telling their black slaves " go take care of the cows, BoY"
may even been texas?
that's no bull shet!
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Cosmic-
I've been laying low on S-T lately (and you know the reason why), but I am hoping you can get yourself taken care of so we can finally share a rope together. If you have to sell all your schitt to get your medical taken care of, I still have TONS of gear, ropes, etc. I could probably even rope gun for some 4.8d's.
Just get yourself taken care of, my friend.
I can commiserate with you, as I had to sell lots of my personal schitt (gun collection, coin collection, 8" apochromatic refracting telescope, etc.)to ensure that my Anne was properly cared for in the nursing home ($750,000).
Rodger (BDC)
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Hang tough....
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Norton
Social climber
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All I know right now is, I pay my deductable, and after that it's 80/20.
yes, that sounds like a quite basic plan
and Cosmic, your plan should have to have a Maximum Out of Pocket amount that you can call your insurer to find out about if you don't have your plan paperwork handy to look up
the Maximum out pocket combines your deductible, co pays, your 20% of stuff, and it is a yearly total figure, often that amount is somewhere between like $7-12,000 depending on how much your monthly premium you chose when you signed up
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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that was a nice postBrokedownclimber
locker where was that from wiki? i heard a story in some cultures class at s.b. about it being a derogatory statement towards slaves bitd. i wonder if a texan may have written that for wiki? funny that's one of the only things i remember from that class. and it's prolly wrong.ha.
cosmic,,bro,
i've been feeling in a disturbed way lately.. and i can't help but think about you a bunch. if i wasn't so frustrated in my own predicament i'd jump up and lend a hand up. i got a $4500 doctor bill but they are letting me make payments. won't yours let you pay after the procedure? i mean that should be the way it works anyway! operation THEN cash. what if they botch it, and you die. how you suppose to get your money back? lol. no! you won't die. but they might botch it. and you shouldn't have to pay for what doesn't fix you. you should know us low budgeters get low budget docs, specially here in jtree. the young dude that worked on my finger was his first time. i said,"i don't want to hear it. JUST DO IT!" i still don't have much mobility, and it hurts everyday. and it's been 4 month's. will they not let you make payments on the 20%? 100'000 seems like a good deal for back surgery. my dad paid millions on his back, but he still limps with pain. either that, or he's addicted to the morphine sack attached to his spinal column, and when need be it's administered 24/7 via wifi. i will offer this lend up. look up, to our brother up high. he can be a brother to everyone, and all. me, you, locker, your dad, and everyone else back to Paul. he's got yo back, our backs, our legs, fingers. but his concern is your heart. he knows what you need, even before you cry. his allegiance, is for you to never die. start by thanking him for his deeds, our pain is covered because the bible tells us he bleeds. his word is joyful to my ear, for the groanings of the spirit cause me not to fear. i once was where you are here, selling all my gear. is anything more queer? to this i bet neebee would say, oh my dear!
today i went out with a lost fortitude, but it still turned out awesome. praise jesus
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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But then, I have to pay for a plane flight and I would have to be there
for evalueation which is about 3 to 4 days and 5 days for waiting while my insurance reviews and oks the surgery, the 1 day surgery and 1 more day for evaluation then the flight home.
dude! i got a new engine. lets road trip! Hahahaha
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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4RUNNER WITH A QUEENSIZE BED!
i know you might be a kingsize? could strap ya to the rack?
seriously i would drive you there and do what ever it took. if it's to your advantage call me or pm me. i got a tent,(couldn't pay for gas tho)maybe some, i always wanted to go through Louisiana, been to florida, it's gay. have'ta buy lots of mosquito repellent;)
would be an adventure for sure.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Aug 15, 2016 - 09:24am PT
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Good Luck....
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Coach37
Social climber
Philly
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Aug 15, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
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"I am NOT on Obamacare, Tradhog"
Hey wiseguy? We are all "on" Obamacare, it's a piece of legislation, not an insurer or health care provider. "Obamacare" is the same private insurance that has always existed, except now your insurer can't kick you out or fail to cover you because of your pre-existing condition or you costing them too much. Both those things would have happened to you before the ACA (what you call "Obamacare"). So if anything, you should be thanking President Obama and all the democrats that fought for that law.
Otherwise, your ass would be up the creek without a paddle and no insurance company would touch you with a 10 foot squeegee. They might fix your back, seems unlikely that they can fix the ignorance.
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 15, 2016 - 12:19pm PT
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all true
and in addition IF you have truly found an insurer to sell you a plan that is NOT ACA approved then you will pay a $695 penalty come next April tax time
but then you knew that
good luck checking medical out, Cosmic!
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Aug 16, 2016 - 10:04am PT
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Dwain-
Hang in there, Bro!
Rodger
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Aug 16, 2016 - 02:58pm PT
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Recently an old friend, a climber in his late 50s, developed severe spinal discomfort. He had a brief surgery performed by Dr. Corenman at the Steadman Clinic in Vail, Colorado. This surgeon was initially a DC, then became an MD spinal surgeon, so he knows the spine perhaps better than someone who has gone directly from his MD into spinal surgery. My friend had a complete recovery. FWIW.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 16, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
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Cosmic,
Are you gonna stop f*#king around with these retards and call me or what?
The eagle has landed and our mutual friend has the digits. Lol
EDIT: Btw, we are leaving soon for our Colorado antelope hunt so if I don't get back to you it isn't because I'm mad at your sister. We might be out of range for a while.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Aug 19, 2016 - 03:26pm PT
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Recupping...? Does medicare cover liposuction procedures...? rj
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Aug 19, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
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11
to the condition of tyedyed one's lower back
It Stands to show what tuff mf'er he is to be able to stand at all
Get On It. Then work your gig too .
Dude? Really, find a way
I'm trying to find if what Was said about getting surgery can be funded.
Use your freekin' common sense!
Get it fixed before you end up ,,,,,,,,lockers pic!?,
Okay I'm going to end up on that list but
Check out the bird rescue web sites
Tell your sob story get a page up!
I se the crap that gets $$$
You deserve it
And I'm riding evel, too
to get settled in -then - by then - He might be able to help?
You need to send this,
get help if you need to find a medical advocate....???
Just gonna leave it there!!
"Get O I and get we'll what fun this thread is?"...
Just a bump
N gibberish...... Locker ! I roll a rebuilt tablet that drops letters I don't look at the tiny screen
Really
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Fish Finder
climber
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Aug 19, 2016 - 03:48pm PT
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Hope your doin well Dwain
Why don't you pogo stick on over to Teneya for
Lynne's birthday bash on Sep 3rd
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Aug 19, 2016 - 04:41pm PT
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Hey dude, I somehow missed this whole topic until now. Good luck sorting out your options. Keeping numbed up seems dangerous if you are still moving around.
When you decide what path to take, consider what you would do if you knew you were going to live for 20-40 more years. Definitely check out whatever assistance programs exist to deal with chronic medical issues. My mom has been fighting that front for the last few years and looks like she's actually going to win a case for a denied disability claim.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Aug 19, 2016 - 05:53pm PT
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Cosmic...Listen to Brennan...Look what glue did to Locker....
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Aug 19, 2016 - 06:05pm PT
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That was my inflato....dude....
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Aug 19, 2016 - 06:23pm PT
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I named a climb 'Infallible Boy',
the Blue one insisted on teasing me
calling it 'Inflatable Boy'! . This while she told everyone she slept on my couch....
Reel ly
Ok, picture the cute waitress I saw every day, lived downstairs from, with, in the climbing town, serving Us, Blue and me coffee and home baked ' Power Bars' ( Gay Ninties, '88?)
She gets off work, at nine and wants know where we are going, & if she can come join us.
Blue, she is a weekend constant. Soon to - but not yet made the rounds.
I was smitten, she was drooling over all the candy she had found, I couldn't/ wouldn't see it
I was so toast, I had no idea,....
So, the waitress wants to climb with us, (HER) Blue misses this ( caught it later?!))
Blue says "ho no it will be boring he wants me to hold him on that thing ' Inflatable Boy',"
I guess you had to have been there,
but it is the sort of thing that happened in every climbing area.
The sheer numbers of highly toned aggressive men was intoxicating to some girls.
Midwestern city librarian? She had arrived in paradise.
It sounds better when the Parisians loudly say "célébrer la vérité que la variété des amours est le piment de la vie !".....
Wait no it doesn't
celebrate the truth that loves variety is the spice of life! "
The trials of the hart in Boulder? ,,,,,, Oh man .....Clean Dans house! The pop up? I woke up in it, to girls leaving, a bunch of times ..... I almost never went with them.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 23, 2016 - 10:27am PT
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Is the surgeon also going to deal with yer pointed head?
:-) :-) :-)
Happy for you and ALL THE BEST!!!!!!!!
BTW, I found this window washer in Chamonix. She's willing to come help you during yer
recovery. I don't know how gud she is but she was very friendly and open to learning from
a master.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2016 - 10:27am PT
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Roger that, CC!
Smiles and "thank yous" abound here.
You are one fortunate son!!!!
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Aug 23, 2016 - 10:45am PT
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Three cheers for good news!
Keep hanging in there CoZmic, and may all the chips fall in the right places.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Aug 23, 2016 - 12:14pm PT
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Hang in there....
Be positive.
keep the stoke, you still owe me a lead and a belay at your secret spot.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 23, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
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Here's a few of the "real" pics (not the iphone junk I sent you) from this week.
Just think, this could be you after you get fixed up!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Aug 23, 2016 - 12:57pm PT
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I have been praying for you. TPR internet has been worse than ever. But my thoughts are with you! lynnie
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 23, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
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Did you say elk? These guys were chilling in the rain.....
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 23, 2016 - 02:00pm PT
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Or maybe some deer backstraps?
These would do.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Aug 23, 2016 - 07:24pm PT
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Good to hear you are seeing a neurosurgeon buddy. He'll have you good as new before you know it!!
I'm looking forward to my visit this fall!!
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Aug 23, 2016 - 07:29pm PT
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Cosmic,
One of the goats we took pictures of must be a distant relative....
That is NOT a manip. Lol
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Aug 23, 2016 - 07:52pm PT
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I could do with a nice elk steak or some elk sausage.
Well, if you were here, I'd cook you up a big plate of elk sausage. We've still got a load in the freezer from last fall's sausage-making.
With a side of fried home-grown potatoes, and a salad of home-grown greens and tomatoes.
You ain't here, though, so you're going to have to feed yourself, but the next time I pull some of that elk sausage out of the freezer and fry it up, I'll toast your successful surgery with a pint of home-brewed beer.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Aug 23, 2016 - 09:06pm PT
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Thanks for the Call Cosmic...I'm gonna try the hot dog trick and see what happens...rj
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Aug 26, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
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Very, very busy day today, will call tomorrow...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 16, 2016 - 11:32pm PT
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hey there say, ... oh no...
we are hoping so, too...
:O whewww, too many hard things, this year...
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Oct 25, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
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Sweet. With the weather cooling, meat will be mailed....
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Oct 25, 2016 - 07:38pm PT
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Wishing you the best result, Cosmic. Hope it eases the pain.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Oct 25, 2016 - 07:55pm PT
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Have you taken gabapentin?
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Oct 26, 2016 - 08:22pm PT
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It sounds like you are at least moving forward towards your surgery.
I'm on the road, will call when I get back next week to catch up.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Oct 26, 2016 - 08:28pm PT
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Hang in there....pain sucks.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Nov 28, 2016 - 08:25am PT
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In the midst of my spoiled azz belly aching I am not forgetting you!
The world will come apart or not
Thinking of you and them things that matter.
Hope like tyedye it's still vibrant on the inside!
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Nov 28, 2016 - 10:11am PT
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Hey, Cosmic: If you really think they are delaying--which is totally believable--start talking lawsuit. Those bastards may start listening. Don't let them put it off! Pulling for you.
BAd
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Nov 28, 2016 - 10:15am PT
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Stay strong CoZmic!
I hope you are able to get this rolling in the time you'd like.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2016 - 03:20pm PT
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Stay strong, Cosmic!
Time for your aerobics.
Try to keep up, but I understand if you cannot.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
The same with the rest of you old farts and fartresses.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Dec 20, 2016 - 02:27am PT
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At the moment it may be frosty
I'm never not just steps from where you are
We all are if the bangs and drops have caught up
Be in the now control and focus, try to breath a bit deeper.
Stay in the light be well
You got this and so do the Docs.......
Good luck my friend,
[youtube= but I'm having issues get back on to here so I'll add sum old Tull later]
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