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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 22, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
I hope you are "back" in the saddle soon.

You need crackers and rest
To feel better or best

When lying there all sore and glum
Remember, Dwain, that I'm you're chum.

And I don't mean shark-bait.
Please keep your tongues civil, Tacos.
CC is in a great big bad place with more "back issues."

Or not. Look who I'm addressing, after all! :0)



Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Jun 22, 2016 - 06:26pm PT
As always, Dwain: my best wishes and regards.

BDC
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jun 22, 2016 - 06:32pm PT
What's up if I can ask?

Best wishes to Cosmic.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jun 22, 2016 - 06:33pm PT
Best wishes, Cosmic.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Jun 22, 2016 - 06:35pm PT
Hey Cosmic Bro
Hang in there and get better,
Best Wishes
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jun 22, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
Cosmic, don't be afraid to give acupuncture a try.
Lurkingtard

climber
Jun 22, 2016 - 06:55pm PT
Good luck on your recovery Cosmic.



F

climber
away from the ground
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:00pm PT
Hang tough and be patient dude.
I have a good idea of what crippling spine pain feels like and what it can do to a guy. My sympathies and best wishes.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
Sorry to hear this, Cosmic. Back pain is the worst.

Best wishes.
little Z

Trad climber
un cafetal en Naranjo
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
sorry to hear you're in pain Cosmic. Best of luck with that. Hope you find some releif.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
Salt vampires never die...take care Dwain...sounds hideously painful...rj
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:19pm PT
Dude the back is such the weakest link in the chain..
Damn thing kills.. get well
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:22pm PT
Like the other poster said...
be patient...
and don't worry too much...

What Locker (and the other poster) said. Do what you have to do on the medical front, and don't let yourself get too down.

I know, easy to say, but I'm not the only one on ST who has been crippled to the point of being unable to work or play, and wondering if I'll ever walk again. And if there's one thing I learned from the experience it was to take things one day at a time. Do whatever I could, and work at not letting myself fall into the jaws of the black dogs.

Good luck.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:24pm PT
dOOd, we were supposed to go climbing on sunday?

don't worry i can fix ur back!

i got EVERY size hammer;)
c wilmot

climber
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
I have a pretty severe disc herniation that causes stenosis. I lost the ability to lift my foot off the floor for about a year.


back injuries are so painful while being deceivingly hidden

the one thing you should avoid at all costs though is surgery

their is literally a medical term called FBS- or failed back syndrome ...to describe the failures of back surgeries
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
I think I reinjured it about 3 months ago moving a huge beer keg away from
some windows I was washing at a restaurant, and last thursday the home I was doing was literally the straw that broke the camels back.

Yeah, we are not the kids we used to be. As you say it is a matter of straws; they get heavier over time. Take your time to heal up.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
Bummer about the back pain.

If it's an option, see if they'll give you a prednisone dose pack while you're waiting for them to figure out what to do next. It probably wouldn't complicate things and it may help.

All the best.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:37pm PT
If it's an option, see if they'll give you a prednisone dose pack while you're waiting for them to figure out what to do next. It probably wouldn't complicate things and it may help.

I'm no doctor, but aren't there issues with prednisone and heart function?
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:38pm PT

I may have to sell my gear and truck to pay the deductable and the 20% after that
to pay for any surgery

NO YOU DONT. Obama will pay for it! Go sign up.................., .;.......:...............:............;...........?"

HURRY before trump wins;)
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:45pm PT
Hang in there. If you do what you have to you will get though this.
Best to you.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:49pm PT
Cosmic, welcome to my world. By all means have the medicos check it out for something
obvious and fixable. More than likely it will be neither. That said you will then find that you
can live with it and climb. My back goes out about once a year for 3-6 days. Then it
miraculously fixes itself and in two days I'm as good as ever, such as it is. Nothing I've found
does any good.

HEAL UP, YOU KNOW YOU WILL!
Klimmer

Mountain climber
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:50pm PT
Cosmic,


Hang in there. Stay strong.

Shalom, great Faith and prayers to you for healing.

Don't let them get you down in another infamous thread here on ST.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 22, 2016 - 07:52pm PT

1500 deductable and 20% of 100% after that.

well that's great!

shop around then!?

look elsewhere than Nevaduh. UCLA cured my brothers liver diasese without cuttin him open. Doctor did call it a miracle tho......
F10

Trad climber
Bishop
Jun 22, 2016 - 08:01pm PT
If your not climbing your not living.

I say time to give Locker your gear !!

Hope you heal up.
c wilmot

climber
Jun 22, 2016 - 08:02pm PT
honestly Mr dingus it depends on the circumstance. if its a result of a one time injury then yes- surgery might be a good option. If its a result of chronic overuse/stress injures it is no bueno.

personally I have had several doctors openly tell me to avoid surgery at all costs

chronic pain sucks- but is better than losing even more function

all the best
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jun 22, 2016 - 08:07pm PT
Best wishes, Cosmic. Can't be fun. If it helps, I've had friends who were in your shape and recovered enough to do the things they love, albeit a bit slower and more careful.
Norton

Social climber
Jun 22, 2016 - 08:08pm PT
Cosmic

VERY sorry to hear about your back pain

stenosis I know, along with four lower spine surgeries, like you

you are doing it right, get a fast MRI and have the surgeon look at it

IF they need to do surgery I hope you get a fast appointment and don't have to wait
nah000

climber
no/w/here
Jun 22, 2016 - 08:49pm PT
cosmic: while given the difficulty of the circumstances, it's not much: my thoughts are with you... that your livelihood requires a [semi-] functioning body, means i hope you are expediently able to breathe, intuit and reason your way [with the help of the requisite outside experts] through the twists and turns of the road that currently lies ahead of you...
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 22, 2016 - 08:51pm PT
At least the brain, and one other part are injury free.

HaHa. (ok just 2).

is that the ComicalCosmicCragsman part!?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jun 22, 2016 - 09:02pm PT
Positive healing vibes sent!
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Jun 22, 2016 - 09:02pm PT
Take care dear Cos!

Susan
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Jun 22, 2016 - 09:03pm PT
*
*
Cosmic, Sorry to hear you are in pain and having back problems.
Good luck with getting some relief and feeling better.

best wishes
nita..
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jun 22, 2016 - 09:08pm PT
Cosmic, You will pull through. You always do.

Phil_B

Social climber
CHC, en zed
Jun 22, 2016 - 09:13pm PT
Cozmeek!

I wish you an end to your pain. Backs can suck. I have a friend who just had surgery for his stenosis and is happy with the results. He's not kayaking yet, but he expects to back out there again soon.
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Jun 22, 2016 - 09:23pm PT
best wishes from your manchild
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Jun 22, 2016 - 09:40pm PT
Yep, you will dig it when you get healed up. Good juju your way!
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jun 22, 2016 - 10:07pm PT
haas the bravecowboy ever been out of Wyoming?
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Jun 22, 2016 - 10:11pm PT
I can sympathize, Cosmic. Last October I sat down to change clothes and was hit with a pain in my buttocks like no other pain I've ever experienced. A shot of morphine didn't touch it. But a ten-day prednisone treatment helped considerably. My MRI showed scoliosis with a step-off, multiple stenosis, and several herniated discs. I'm feeling a lot better now.

If I can come back at my age, so can you. Stay positive and give the nerves a chance to cool down.
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Jun 22, 2016 - 10:36pm PT
This is upsetting to hear.
I have relatives in town but I will call you soon.
It sounds like you have a great doc to see.
You are a good person. Rest up.
Phyl
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Jun 22, 2016 - 10:36pm PT
Very glad to be the conduit of vibes, Cosmic.

It's the least I can do for a friend who gave me a reel good resole job on the vintage Fires. No charge.

Thanks for being so damned persnickety and such a negative poster, too.

You suck in general otherwise.

Tie-dye is so passe
Not to mention de-classe
But no matter what they say
You know what they always say
So I won't say it again today.

Better soon, ya climbin' goon.
Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Jun 23, 2016 - 06:28am PT
Sending positive vibes. Get well Cosmic.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jun 23, 2016 - 08:40am PT
Dude... very sorry to hear this.

I have suffered from scoliosis and some bulging discs and some other stuff I can't pronounce for the last 2.5 years.... I could not stand or walk for a (scary) amount of time.

Now just being able to walk 1.5 miles is a real joy.

Fixing these things takes time and work.

The numb feet are the worst, how do you rate numbness on the pain scale???

We are with you



Eric Beck

Sport climber
Bishop, California
Jun 23, 2016 - 08:46am PT
Best wishes, Cosmic. I remember you talking with the ravens in Ryan CG.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 23, 2016 - 08:46am PT
Having endured a number of joint and pinched nerve problems myself I have a certain knowledge of how you're feeling. Surgery is a last resort, especially on the back. You're wise to pick well amongst the surgeons if you have to go that route. I'm pulling for you. Would like to one day soon do some "adaptive" climbs with you amigo.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
Jun 23, 2016 - 09:11am PT
Feel better cozmeekone. ;^)
LuckyPink

climber
the last bivy
Jun 23, 2016 - 09:34am PT
Oh so sorry, Cosmic. Nerve pain is so hard to handle. Hope you can get an epidural asap. Sending you huge healing vibes
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Jun 23, 2016 - 09:39am PT
Heal up and stay positive.
Daphne

Trad climber
Northern California
Jun 23, 2016 - 09:52am PT
So sorry to hear about your back, Dwain. Hope you feel better very soon. I threw my back out a few months ago and I felt ancient and it was hard to have a positive attitude. Pain really sucks.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Jun 23, 2016 - 10:45am PT
Hope you can find some comfort between now and Monday -- and a real improvement then. Best wishes to you, Dwain.

John
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 23, 2016 - 10:47am PT
Is your sister still ok though?

feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Jun 23, 2016 - 10:49am PT
Cosmic,
I hope the pain is lessening and things are calming down a bit. Best wishes for a good visit with the doc on Monday. I know you will heal and pull through this and come out in great shape on the other site because you are, well . . . Cosmic, after all.

Sending lots of healing energy,
feralfae
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Jun 23, 2016 - 10:55am PT
She's hot. You....not so much
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Jun 23, 2016 - 11:01am PT
Dang Cosmic!
Wish I was closer, I'd come check you out and see if there was ANYTHING I could do to help with symptoms.
Peace
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Jun 23, 2016 - 11:04am PT
Sorry to hear about this Dwain. Back pain sucks.
Good luck on your quest for relief.

Shoot me a pm if you wanna chat. :)
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jun 23, 2016 - 11:07am PT
Awe shoot I've been hanging back as well, now I regret not calling , I'll be sure to
Correct that,
Dang, twisted wrong & didn't twist back?
Whatever ....

Cosmic vibes and of healing prayers I hope yo saw your hawklike dominance
In the latest production from
Snooze Control...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 23, 2016 - 11:19am PT
Hang tough, Dwain. Hope you get some healing relief soon.

you've won an entry-ticket to Blue's Daily Prayers. You got a mention, so you have that to look forward to, should be feeling it soon.

Cheers, Dwain!
jogill

climber
Colorado
Jun 23, 2016 - 11:47am PT
I forgot to mention that a friend of mine, a climber in his mid 50s, had the same problems with stenosis. He underwent a two hour surgery by a well-known doctor in the Vail Medical Center. The procedure according to my friend was like a "roto-rooter" and cleared up his problem quickly.
GLee

Social climber
Montucky
Jun 24, 2016 - 09:46am PT
I've been off the internet for a while, & just saw this Dwain.....

Best Wishes from Missoula to you for getting what works for you, Cosmic!
Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
Jun 24, 2016 - 09:55am PT
We're thinking of you Dwain.
Some things are bigger, that's all. It is what it is, that's all.
Not to seem callous.
O.D.

Trad climber
LA LA Land
Jun 24, 2016 - 10:43am PT
Thinking positively for you Cosmic, and your pops.
couchmaster

climber
Jun 24, 2016 - 10:58am PT


My thoughts and prayers for your dad and your back are with you Dwain. Good luck.
S.Leeper

Social climber
somewhere that doesnt have anything over 90'
Jun 24, 2016 - 11:07am PT
Get well soon Dwain!!!!Positive vibes your way bro.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 24, 2016 - 11:45am PT
Until you get that MRI and have it analyzed by a neurosurgeon I think you're taking a big risk by doing any sort of PT at all.

Words to live by from DMT. Don't diagnose yerself! Sorry to hear about
yer dad. Hope you get to see him. Heal up!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jun 24, 2016 - 12:08pm PT
Good luck and positive vibes cosmic, you've got a lot on your plate!

OT, but in a way DWAIN can relate to... Interesting stuff DMT! All the " what worked,what didn't" but esp about the pot. These days in greenieland they have have the solutions for Everything, or so I am told 😎😎. I wonder if, these days, they would have more useful, relevant approaches than " smoking pot" that might have a ihigher efficacy in yor case (?) ( tinctures, strains, blends, etc) though I would keep the words of Dingus, close to heart!
Evel

Trad climber
Nedsterdam CO
Jun 24, 2016 - 01:44pm PT
Hey Man sorry to hear about your pop.

Good vibes heading your way brother.
Barbarian

climber
Jun 24, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
[quote]Until you get that MRI and have it analyzed by a neurosurgeon I think you're taking a big risk by doing any sort of PT at all.[/quote

I second that. If I had done the stretching I wanted to do when my back went south, I would have signed my own death warrant. Fortunately my chiro told me to get to an ortho spine surgeon ASAP. He found a massive infection. Saved my life.

Get well, dude. Don't give up on climbing, just deal with the issue and, when that's done, tie back in.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Jun 24, 2016 - 02:32pm PT
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Cosmic,

So sorry to hear about your Papa's health...)-;

Sending you a big hug..

Paz
nita..
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jun 24, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
Dang, Cosmic. Hang in there. Better days ahead.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Jun 24, 2016 - 06:51pm PT
Good luck Cosmic- hope things get better soon.
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Jun 24, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
Hang in there, man! We're rooting' for ya!
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jun 24, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
hey there say... oh no... backpains, are awful... i have a friend, she is going through some stuff, very painful as well... so can sure understand...

get well soon... the rocks, need you climbers, :)


edit:
oh no, just saw about your dad... :(

prayers for him... :(
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Jun 24, 2016 - 07:57pm PT
Best wishes Cosmic.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jun 27, 2016 - 09:26pm PT
Way to go Cosmic...
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 27, 2016 - 09:36pm PT
When the going gets tough the tough wash their windows.
I know in my gypsy heart yer on the mend! :-)
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jun 27, 2016 - 09:38pm PT
Wow, how did I miss this?

Get well soon CoZmic, seriously man, I'm pulling for you!
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Jun 27, 2016 - 10:49pm PT
Cosmic,
I am so glad to hear that you are going after the source of the pain, and not just alleviating the pain. Because for sure, working toward finding and fixing the cause is the way to go! BRAVO! You will get better.

And I hope you feel some decreased level of pain every day, too.
You and your dad are on my prayer list.

Carry on healing, :)
feralfae
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Jun 27, 2016 - 11:00pm PT
Very glad to hear that things are at least getting better.

Curt
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Jun 28, 2016 - 08:49am PT
We are all pulling for your recovery Dwain and best of luck with your dad's situation.

When you do physical work and are into physical fun it's truly tough when the body machine isn't working properly.

Hang in there brother and don't dismiss nonwestern medicine in the fine tuning. Accupuncture has worked well for some friends in relieving chronic pain.

I hope that you can push through all of this soon.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jun 28, 2016 - 08:58am PT
Well, as I noted way back, which you might have missed as it was at the
bottom of a page, I can't even get out of bed sometimes, and that's the
way it has been for 45 years! Hopefully yours is fixable.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jun 28, 2016 - 09:55am PT
Hang in there Cosmic....I hope you find the cause and get it fixed!
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Jun 28, 2016 - 12:20pm PT
U ok I've been busy working call me
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Jun 28, 2016 - 01:04pm PT
Holy wall of text, Constantmean!
Scole

Trad climber
Zapopan
Jun 28, 2016 - 03:44pm PT
I see many patients with supposedly incurable back Px. Many have had every form of western diagnosis and have been told that surgery is their only option. That is true in some cases,but I find that chronic back Px responds well to gentle movment like Taiji, Qigong, Yoga etc.

In my experience, Chiropractic often exacerbates the problem, but acupuncture has great results. Unless there are actual structural issues, inflammation is the cause of most back Px. If you can reduce the inflammation the pain goes away. This is why Prednisone can work so well, as it reduces inflammation, but steroids can also have serious side effects.

I treat chronic Px on a daily basis with acupuncture, with great success
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jun 30, 2016 - 12:31pm PT
Clean widows are a reflection into a clear soulthinking of you
Hope that those widows clean themselves, Iknow
they don't
Yet,?!!
be Well Cosmic
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 18, 2016 - 12:27pm PT
Locker...... welcome to the club...

Time to find a young one to lug the Rope and the Rack around for you.

Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 18, 2016 - 12:28pm PT
Have you tried just soaking in a tub of hot water? Works for me.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 18, 2016 - 12:43pm PT
locker, I hear ya. I have an pinched nerve that makes my arm go numb in certain positions. Like when belaying. Not good!
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 18, 2016 - 12:53pm PT
That's right! You guessed it!



















































Yer gunna die!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 18, 2016 - 04:16pm PT
Best wishes for a great outcome Dwain!
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Jul 18, 2016 - 04:21pm PT
Good luck Cosmic. You have a base, a lifetime of activity, which can help you pull through.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jul 18, 2016 - 04:26pm PT
Hey there Cosmic & Locker too!
I hope your feeling less, less pain and less old.
Having a sweltering time here in small rock hell.
Wish I was there - they say it is a dry heat
Wish you were here - they say the chiggers,
die from dehydration when the humidity drops to 50%
Which is Never...

Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Jul 18, 2016 - 05:50pm PT
Things just keep getting better in the medical world, Crag. You're not finished yet. Hang in there.
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Jul 18, 2016 - 05:52pm PT
You have a base, a lifetime of activity, which can help you pull through.

True words there. Good luck with the MRI, it's a trip.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 18, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
How's yer Dad been? Still hanging in? Been there to see him?
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Jul 18, 2016 - 09:35pm PT
hey there say, cosmic... oh my, just saw this...
my condolences, in the loss of your
dad...

we lost our dad, just a few years ago...

it was good you got to hold his hand...
as he passed...

we did not get to do that with our dad, at that moment...


BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 18, 2016 - 10:28pm PT
well i've been wonderin. i think you knew it was time

since you were standing by his side. how could he not but smile lookin at your mug :)

may God bless Dwain's dad(sorry i dont know his name).
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Jul 19, 2016 - 07:17am PT
Hey, Cosmic: So sorry about your Dad. With your back issues hanging over all that.... I lost my pops back when I was 39. It's a crazy hard experience. Hang in there. Best of luck with the Dr. and yer back. I've had issues over the years, some amazingly painful. Makes me worried about my old age. Keep us posted and celebrate the old man.

BAd
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2016 - 07:19am PT
Thanks for the update on that, Cosmic.

I share your loss. We all do, of course.

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 19, 2016 - 08:28am PT
Sorry for your loss.

I am still lucky.... Dad and Mom both are still kicking the sand in Laguna Beach.

I do hope your back is getting better.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jul 19, 2016 - 08:30am PT
Sorry to hear about your father, Cosmic. Never easy losing a parent, no matter the age.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Jul 19, 2016 - 09:00am PT
Condolences Cosmic, my mom's in hospice.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jul 19, 2016 - 09:03am PT
What others have said. Peace and sorry for your loss.
nita

Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
Jul 19, 2016 - 10:06am PT
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Cosmic,

One of the hardest part of growing older.. is experiencing the passing of our elders.

Thinking about you this morning and sending my sincere condolence..

La paz sea contigo.

Nita..

[Click to View YouTube Video]
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 19, 2016 - 02:27pm PT
Cosmic.... was your Dad WW2? Or Korea?

I know you are a product of 29 palms. Where else was your family stationed??

My uncle was a slick pilot starting in Korea then Vietnam forever... between tours he was at Camp Pendleton.

Marines are Tough, the first to fight, willing to go all the way. I salute your Father for his service.

Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Jul 19, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
What Guyman said about the Marines. Bad. Ass.

BAd
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Jul 19, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
Wow, Cosmic, that is one incredible record. We all owe him a lot.

BAd
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Jul 25, 2016 - 05:42pm PT
Sending good vibes for the heal on it's own scenario!
zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 25, 2016 - 05:56pm PT
I go in Friday for an epidural nerve block

I'm checking with my friend who has had severe back issues.

I second donini's emotion.

phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Jul 25, 2016 - 06:43pm PT
So sorry! Rest as much as you can!
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Jul 25, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
Hoping for the best big guy.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jul 25, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
Trooley phooked

Here,
I'll try to inform
I'll include the testimonial as background noise. Dr Farmer recommended a double fusion up high in my cervical region and to watch my lower back, to initially resist surgery.
http://backinthegame.hss.edu/story/denise-furfaro/


What's in store for our intrepid traveler; From Google images:

http://www.chirogeek.com/Herniation/Herniation%20Page/esi-ap-labeled.jpg



I saw a better, more descriptive, but...
http://www.chiropractic-help.com/images/Femoral-nerve-lat-MR-opt.jpg

Or this
http://www.spinaldecompressionmissouri.com/uploads/8/2/1/1/8211021/9428665.jpg?345
Fish Finder

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 07:06am PT
Hey Dwain
Sorry for your loss and hope your body can heal
I remember when you and your wife moved into your dads place
You posted some nice pictures of him
Hang in there buddy
Your tough like him

I will contact you soon , sorry I haven't been available

Best,Gregg
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Jul 27, 2016 - 07:50am PT
Hang in there, Cosmic. We're all pulling for you!

BAd
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 27, 2016 - 08:29am PT
Good luck with it....

feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Jul 27, 2016 - 10:58am PT
Cosmic,
All good wishes. Rest and heal. Your body needs all its energy for healing, so try listening to some guided meditations for healing while you REST.
I hope the healing is swift, complete, and long-lasting. Be good to yourself.
feralfae
Lurkingtard

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 12:55pm PT
Good luck Cosmic! You're one of the good ones!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2016 - 01:06pm PT
Semper Fi, you old squeegie-wipe, just work slower and imagine you are on a climb. The mindset of climbing tends to make one extra careful.

Remember to take frequent breaks, wear a back brace when working--if you don't have one, why don't you? You're smart, so you probably do own one.

Since our talk yesterday I've been praying extra for you and the birds and your bride, who has to take your crankiness and keep your spirits up.

And use Davy Crockett's advice, too.

"Make sure you're right, then go ahead."

Some may argue that knowing what's right is impossible, like knowing the truth about anything. But you know what's right for you, no one else, just like knowing the "truth" of anything.

I think my own back has been having "sympathy pain." At least it's not terrible and it doesn't keep me from moving around, though it's highly annoying that it just comes and goes. I think maybe I'm at square one and haven't much more to say about that.

Good damn luck with whichever procedure you elect after the block, and may you find a briefcase stuffed with old twenties, rather than auction off your gear.
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Jul 27, 2016 - 02:06pm PT
Welp, glad to hear the problem pinpointed. Now you can atleast concentrate on that section of the spline. I know you had an accident, but many back injuries are facilitated by weak stomach muscles. Strengthening the muscles around your problem area will help eleaviate gravitys pressure, and pain. Look around the interweb and find some good skeletal and muscle diagrams. Familiarize yourself with the specific muscles wrapping your column, and search out exercises isolating those. Another thing you can try, eliminating all the pressure a little bit every day. Hang upside down. For you I'd start at a 45 degree angle, set up a piece of plywood, or 2x12 and anchor your feet at the high end and let gravity stretch your back.
These two things can help tremendously, but you gotta become religious about it! Make up your mind to get BETTER, and you will!

I'll keep praying tho just in case;)
F

climber
away from the ground
Jul 27, 2016 - 02:23pm PT
+1 for inversion. It helps me.
I'm looking at unavoidable surgery in probably a decade or less. T4-7.
Good luck man. I feel it every day too.
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
Jul 27, 2016 - 03:51pm PT
Heal Up Ole man!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2016 - 04:19pm PT
hhhhhhhhh

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 08:52pm PT
Dwain,

Your in my thoughts. Get Well. DLC
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Jul 27, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
Rock on, Cosmic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fish Finder

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 09:01pm PT
Really Russ
Captain of industry
Tech Savy
Guy like yourself
Can't translate #homolips =
"Keep Your Chin Up"
hahaha
I think it was you Mussy who taught me what
San Francisco Slippers are

Hey let's not forget this thread is about Cosmic's knee ,
I mean back
Dwain come on up and sit a spell!
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Jul 27, 2016 - 09:06pm PT
The kayak just resigned from the chair of the DNC...
Fish Finder

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 09:17pm PT
Everywhere





and Cosmic has ridden your kayak when his back was better
I hope he can again


That thing has come in handy the last 2 decades ive had it
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Jul 27, 2016 - 09:29pm PT
FF: HIt that thing with a mild bleach solution and get it back down here. I gots plans. Have the Blade bring it down. Thank you in advance. Tape a C note too it also, for rent.
H

Mountain climber
there and back again
Jul 27, 2016 - 09:51pm PT
Dude, I am just tuning in after months away.

Sorry to hear your ailing. Good luck Bro and Gods speed
Fish Finder

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 09:55pm PT
Deja Vue
Didn't you post that same post last year?
I'm in the works for a couple new ones and since I promote the crap outta @oceankayaks on on Instasnatch they are going to give me the brah deal
Isn't that thing like 30 years old
Tuff rig
And oh yeah all you tacos can find me there @gregggowest
C Ya Mustard
I will make the effort and paddle it down to the desert
I owe your climbing partner (practice wife) breafest
Hay check out me and Susan Summers , couldn't get her off me


Edit: I've never heard of a mild bleach solution and how is it that Mc Donald's is the lowest in the fast food chain yet they serve fancy ketchup
Fish Finder

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 10:01pm PT
Ok Mussy you got me but I swear this is my new Bae

Fish Finder

climber
Jul 27, 2016 - 10:05pm PT
God Bless A Miracle and Cosmic


Bushman

climber
The state of quantum flux
Jul 28, 2016 - 06:16am PT
I know a little about lower back injury

(bushman routine)
Ice
Rest
Ice
Bicycle
Ice
Sleep
Ice
Work
Ice
Sleep
(Repeat)

Splurge, oops
Start over

Lift wrong, oops
Start over

Overdo it, oops
Start over

Losing a few pounds a month
Back getting stronger
Less pain
Still not pissing blood

I feel your pain, Cosmic
Hang in there
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 28, 2016 - 08:53am PT
Hang in there ......

but you have always hung tough.

Have you ever thought about growing your bizz?

Many of my friends who have-had hard work company's were able to stop being the only grunt worker and become the supervisor, salesman, bossman and brains behind the operation.

I know you are successful because you do top notch work and your customers are happy.

All the best, to you, get better- you still owe me a climbing trip and I have been looking forward to that 5.4D you were telling me about.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2016 - 09:12am PT
The scar on the other side of the knee is bigger, mouse.
OMG, they took your left thumb, too?

"I never noticed."
:0)
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jul 29, 2016 - 03:45am PT
Have at it - thinking about you,sending healing vibes , no jibes - be strong and well,
good luck today, from all of the tribe.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 29, 2016 - 08:20am PT
have fun.... those shots are a blast.

hope they help.

guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Jul 29, 2016 - 01:51pm PT
Happy to hear everything went well.
Sioux Juan

Big Wall climber
Costa mesa
Jul 30, 2016 - 02:59pm PT
get good soon ! !.............
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Jul 30, 2016 - 11:38pm PT
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Jul 31, 2016 - 07:16pm PT
Gentlemen of high standing and moral purpose have long since dispensed with referring to African American men as "boys". Thought you'd want to know. Carry on.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2016 - 08:09pm PT
The Beast to you beyoth, MD & CC.

What can a poor boy do except to play in a rock n roll band

The song they play is compromise solution

And they can't get no satisfaction

Ain't no place in Vegas Town for a brokedown window man


zBrown

Ice climber
Jul 31, 2016 - 08:29pm PT
Your boy is different from boy

Your boy Reagan
Your boy LBJ
Your boy Mike Tyson

So I'm as stooped as you others for talking about it

You want to get screwed by insurance companies just keep on bending over



BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 1, 2016 - 11:31pm PT
did you boy's know;

that the term "Cowboy" came from the southern plantation owners telling their black slaves " go take care of the cows, BoY"

may even been texas?

that's no bull shet!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Aug 3, 2016 - 10:57am PT
Cosmic-

I've been laying low on S-T lately (and you know the reason why), but I am hoping you can get yourself taken care of so we can finally share a rope together. If you have to sell all your schitt to get your medical taken care of, I still have TONS of gear, ropes, etc. I could probably even rope gun for some 4.8d's.

Just get yourself taken care of, my friend.

I can commiserate with you, as I had to sell lots of my personal schitt (gun collection, coin collection, 8" apochromatic refracting telescope, etc.)to ensure that my Anne was properly cared for in the nursing home ($750,000).

Rodger (BDC)
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 3, 2016 - 11:20am PT
Hang tough....

Norton

Social climber
Aug 3, 2016 - 05:53pm PT
All I know right now is, I pay my deductable, and after that it's 80/20.

yes, that sounds like a quite basic plan

and Cosmic, your plan should have to have a Maximum Out of Pocket amount that you can call your insurer to find out about if you don't have your plan paperwork handy to look up

the Maximum out pocket combines your deductible, co pays, your 20% of stuff, and it is a yearly total figure, often that amount is somewhere between like $7-12,000 depending on how much your monthly premium you chose when you signed up
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 3, 2016 - 06:43pm PT
that was a nice postBrokedownclimber


locker where was that from wiki? i heard a story in some cultures class at s.b. about it being a derogatory statement towards slaves bitd. i wonder if a texan may have written that for wiki? funny that's one of the only things i remember from that class. and it's prolly wrong.ha.


cosmic,,bro,
i've been feeling in a disturbed way lately.. and i can't help but think about you a bunch. if i wasn't so frustrated in my own predicament i'd jump up and lend a hand up. i got a $4500 doctor bill but they are letting me make payments. won't yours let you pay after the procedure? i mean that should be the way it works anyway! operation THEN cash. what if they botch it, and you die. how you suppose to get your money back? lol. no! you won't die. but they might botch it. and you shouldn't have to pay for what doesn't fix you. you should know us low budgeters get low budget docs, specially here in jtree. the young dude that worked on my finger was his first time. i said,"i don't want to hear it. JUST DO IT!" i still don't have much mobility, and it hurts everyday. and it's been 4 month's. will they not let you make payments on the 20%? 100'000 seems like a good deal for back surgery. my dad paid millions on his back, but he still limps with pain. either that, or he's addicted to the morphine sack attached to his spinal column, and when need be it's administered 24/7 via wifi. i will offer this lend up. look up, to our brother up high. he can be a brother to everyone, and all. me, you, locker, your dad, and everyone else back to Paul. he's got yo back, our backs, our legs, fingers. but his concern is your heart. he knows what you need, even before you cry. his allegiance, is for you to never die. start by thanking him for his deeds, our pain is covered because the bible tells us he bleeds. his word is joyful to my ear, for the groanings of the spirit cause me not to fear. i once was where you are here, selling all my gear. is anything more queer? to this i bet neebee would say, oh my dear!

today i went out with a lost fortitude, but it still turned out awesome. praise jesus
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 3, 2016 - 07:31pm PT

But then, I have to pay for a plane flight and I would have to be there
for evalueation which is about 3 to 4 days and 5 days for waiting while my insurance reviews and oks the surgery, the 1 day surgery and 1 more day for evaluation then the flight home.

dude! i got a new engine. lets road trip! Hahahaha

BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 3, 2016 - 08:24pm PT
4RUNNER WITH A QUEENSIZE BED!

i know you might be a kingsize? could strap ya to the rack?

seriously i would drive you there and do what ever it took. if it's to your advantage call me or pm me. i got a tent,(couldn't pay for gas tho)maybe some, i always wanted to go through Louisiana, been to florida, it's gay. have'ta buy lots of mosquito repellent;)

would be an adventure for sure.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 15, 2016 - 09:24am PT
Good Luck....
Coach37

Social climber
Philly
Aug 15, 2016 - 12:11pm PT
"I am NOT on Obamacare, Tradhog"

Hey wiseguy? We are all "on" Obamacare, it's a piece of legislation, not an insurer or health care provider. "Obamacare" is the same private insurance that has always existed, except now your insurer can't kick you out or fail to cover you because of your pre-existing condition or you costing them too much. Both those things would have happened to you before the ACA (what you call "Obamacare"). So if anything, you should be thanking President Obama and all the democrats that fought for that law.

Otherwise, your ass would be up the creek without a paddle and no insurance company would touch you with a 10 foot squeegee. They might fix your back, seems unlikely that they can fix the ignorance.
Norton

Social climber
Aug 15, 2016 - 12:19pm PT
all true

and in addition IF you have truly found an insurer to sell you a plan that is NOT ACA approved then you will pay a $695 penalty come next April tax time

but then you knew that

good luck checking medical out, Cosmic!
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Aug 16, 2016 - 10:04am PT
Dwain-

Hang in there, Bro!

Rodger
jgill

Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
Aug 16, 2016 - 02:58pm PT
Recently an old friend, a climber in his late 50s, developed severe spinal discomfort. He had a brief surgery performed by Dr. Corenman at the Steadman Clinic in Vail, Colorado. This surgeon was initially a DC, then became an MD spinal surgeon, so he knows the spine perhaps better than someone who has gone directly from his MD into spinal surgery. My friend had a complete recovery. FWIW.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Aug 16, 2016 - 03:22pm PT
Cosmic,

Are you gonna stop f*#king around with these retards and call me or what?

The eagle has landed and our mutual friend has the digits. Lol


EDIT: Btw, we are leaving soon for our Colorado antelope hunt so if I don't get back to you it isn't because I'm mad at your sister. We might be out of range for a while.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Aug 19, 2016 - 03:26pm PT
Recupping...? Does medicare cover liposuction procedures...? rj
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Aug 19, 2016 - 03:43pm PT
11

to the condition of tyedyed one's lower back
It Stands to show what tuff mf'er he is to be able to stand at all
Get On It. Then work your gig too .


Dude? Really, find a way

I'm trying to find if what Was said about getting surgery can be funded.
Use your freekin' common sense!
Get it fixed before you end up ,,,,,,,,lockers pic!?,

Okay I'm going to end up on that list but
Check out the bird rescue web sites
Tell your sob story get a page up!
I se the crap that gets $$$
You deserve it
And I'm riding evel, too
to get settled in -then - by then - He might be able to help?
You need to send this,
get help if you need to find a medical advocate....???

Just gonna leave it there!!

"Get O I and get we'll what fun this thread is?"...




Just a bump
N gibberish...... Locker ! I roll a rebuilt tablet that drops letters I don't look at the tiny screen
Really
Fish Finder

climber
Aug 19, 2016 - 03:48pm PT
Hope your doin well Dwain
Why don't you pogo stick on over to Teneya for
Lynne's birthday bash on Sep 3rd
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Aug 19, 2016 - 04:41pm PT
Hey dude, I somehow missed this whole topic until now. Good luck sorting out your options. Keeping numbed up seems dangerous if you are still moving around.

When you decide what path to take, consider what you would do if you knew you were going to live for 20-40 more years. Definitely check out whatever assistance programs exist to deal with chronic medical issues. My mom has been fighting that front for the last few years and looks like she's actually going to win a case for a denied disability claim.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Aug 19, 2016 - 05:53pm PT
Cosmic...Listen to Brennan...Look what glue did to Locker....
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Aug 19, 2016 - 06:05pm PT
That was my inflato....dude....
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Aug 19, 2016 - 06:23pm PT
I named a climb 'Infallible Boy',
the Blue one insisted on teasing me
calling it 'Inflatable Boy'! . This while she told everyone she slept on my couch....

Reel ly

Ok, picture the cute waitress I saw every day, lived downstairs from, with, in the climbing town, serving Us, Blue and me coffee and home baked ' Power Bars' ( Gay Ninties, '88?)
She gets off work, at nine and wants know where we are going, & if she can come join us.

Blue, she is a weekend constant. Soon to - but not yet made the rounds.
I was smitten, she was drooling over all the candy she had found, I couldn't/ wouldn't see it
I was so toast, I had no idea,....
So, the waitress wants to climb with us, (HER) Blue misses this ( caught it later?!))
Blue says "ho no it will be boring he wants me to hold him on that thing ' Inflatable Boy',"

I guess you had to have been there,
but it is the sort of thing that happened in every climbing area.
The sheer numbers of highly toned aggressive men was intoxicating to some girls.
Midwestern city librarian? She had arrived in paradise.
It sounds better when the Parisians loudly say "célébrer la vérité que la variété des amours est le piment de la vie !".....
Wait no it doesn't
celebrate the truth that loves variety is the spice of life! "


The trials of the hart in Boulder? ,,,,,, Oh man .....Clean Dans house! The pop up? I woke up in it, to girls leaving, a bunch of times ..... I almost never went with them.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 23, 2016 - 10:27am PT
Is the surgeon also going to deal with yer pointed head?







:-) :-) :-)
Happy for you and ALL THE BEST!!!!!!!!

BTW, I found this window washer in Chamonix. She's willing to come help you during yer
recovery. I don't know how gud she is but she was very friendly and open to learning from
a master.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 23, 2016 - 10:27am PT
Roger that, CC!

Smiles and "thank yous" abound here.

You are one fortunate son!!!!


survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 23, 2016 - 10:45am PT
Three cheers for good news!

Keep hanging in there CoZmic, and may all the chips fall in the right places.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 23, 2016 - 12:14pm PT
Hang in there....

Be positive.

keep the stoke, you still owe me a lead and a belay at your secret spot.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Aug 23, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
Here's a few of the "real" pics (not the iphone junk I sent you) from this week.

Just think, this could be you after you get fixed up!


Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Aug 23, 2016 - 12:57pm PT
I have been praying for you. TPR internet has been worse than ever. But my thoughts are with you! lynnie
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Aug 23, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
Did you say elk? These guys were chilling in the rain.....

Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Aug 23, 2016 - 02:00pm PT
Or maybe some deer backstraps?

These would do.

Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Aug 23, 2016 - 07:24pm PT
Good to hear you are seeing a neurosurgeon buddy. He'll have you good as new before you know it!!

I'm looking forward to my visit this fall!!
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Aug 23, 2016 - 07:29pm PT
Cosmic,

One of the goats we took pictures of must be a distant relative....

That is NOT a manip. Lol


Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Aug 23, 2016 - 07:52pm PT
I could do with a nice elk steak or some elk sausage.

Well, if you were here, I'd cook you up a big plate of elk sausage. We've still got a load in the freezer from last fall's sausage-making.

With a side of fried home-grown potatoes, and a salad of home-grown greens and tomatoes.

You ain't here, though, so you're going to have to feed yourself, but the next time I pull some of that elk sausage out of the freezer and fry it up, I'll toast your successful surgery with a pint of home-brewed beer.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Aug 23, 2016 - 09:06pm PT
Thanks for the Call Cosmic...I'm gonna try the hot dog trick and see what happens...rj
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Aug 26, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
Very, very busy day today, will call tomorrow...
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Sep 16, 2016 - 11:32pm PT
hey there say, ... oh no...
we are hoping so, too...

:O whewww, too many hard things, this year...
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Oct 25, 2016 - 07:15pm PT
Sweet. With the weather cooling, meat will be mailed....
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Oct 25, 2016 - 07:38pm PT
Wishing you the best result, Cosmic. Hope it eases the pain.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Oct 25, 2016 - 07:55pm PT
Have you taken gabapentin?
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Oct 26, 2016 - 08:22pm PT
It sounds like you are at least moving forward towards your surgery.

I'm on the road, will call when I get back next week to catch up.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Oct 26, 2016 - 08:28pm PT
Hang in there....pain sucks.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Nov 28, 2016 - 08:25am PT
In the midst of my spoiled azz belly aching I am not forgetting you!
The world will come apart or not
Thinking of you and them things that matter.
Hope like tyedye it's still vibrant on the inside!
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Nov 28, 2016 - 10:11am PT
Hey, Cosmic: If you really think they are delaying--which is totally believable--start talking lawsuit. Those bastards may start listening. Don't let them put it off! Pulling for you.

BAd
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Nov 28, 2016 - 10:15am PT
Stay strong CoZmic!

I hope you are able to get this rolling in the time you'd like.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 28, 2016 - 03:20pm PT
Stay strong, Cosmic!

Time for your aerobics.

Try to keep up, but I understand if you cannot.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
The same with the rest of you old farts and fartresses.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Dec 20, 2016 - 02:27am PT
At the moment it may be frosty
I'm never not just steps from where you are
We all are if the bangs and drops have caught up
Be in the now control and focus, try to breath a bit deeper.
Stay in the light be well
You got this and so do the Docs.......
Good luck my friend,

[youtube= but I'm having issues get back on to here so I'll add sum old Tull later]







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