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Stone Cowboy

Trad climber
Livermore, CA.
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 21, 2016 - 05:01pm PT
EC JOE...we miss you! Thanks for the climb brother, Much Respect!!!
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Apr 21, 2016 - 07:19pm PT

That's an amazing 130 feet tucked in the shadow.
ec

climber
ca
Apr 21, 2016 - 10:56pm PT
Like Prince's Final Cryptic Message: "Wait a Few Days Before You Waste Any Prayers."

 ec
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Apr 21, 2016 - 11:02pm PT
quote of the month! classic...
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Apr 22, 2016 - 07:25am PT
Nice to hear EC is still kickin'. :)

Did White Punks years ago but skipped the final pitch so we could rap--a bit of a chore even so. Big fun.

BAd
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Apr 22, 2016 - 07:41am PT
Jebus- had the exact same experience. We climbed it last October and topped out right when it was going dark.

My buddy wanted to shoot straight down for the road but I knew there were 300 foot cliff-outs. We traversed East then South through the forest forever to gain the main trail.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Apr 22, 2016 - 10:51am PT
If EC didn't die on those routes he put up, I don't think anything can kill him.

WPOD looks like a classic southern sierra funtime. Must do soon!
Radish

Trad climber
SeKi, California
Apr 22, 2016 - 12:02pm PT
Cheers for WPOD ! Quite a sobering climb that tests where your at with all the skill sets in climbing at that level. Have done it several times and everytime some part of it was HARD! Good to do some research on the rap which goes good from the top for a while then its like???? A gateway climb to the harder stuff for sure and a Great and Classic locale that's wild and woolie! Has been called the Best Moderate Multi pitch in Calif.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Apr 22, 2016 - 02:46pm PT
My buddy wanted to shoot straight down for the road but I knew there were 300 foot cliff-outs. We traversed East then South through the forest forever to gain the main trail.

Good choice. Stay to close to the rock and you'll come to some steep terrain.

The raps are a pain in the b**ls. More so with a party of three. Much better to start early, leave nothing at the base, and walk off. Once you've done it a time or two (other good climbs top out) you'll have it dialed. It's not so bad then.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Apr 22, 2016 - 03:01pm PT
Yeah, gotta go back and do that last pitch. Looks so sweet. It is a challenging climb, so don't let the lowly grade fool you. I knew a bloke who blew it on the run-out slab pitch and took something like a 50 footer! He was kind of known for such antics. Glad I wasn't there to watch, although I did catch him on a nearly disastrous whipper off Thin Ice. I don't think that guy climbs anymore--good thing!

BAd
ec

climber
ca
Apr 24, 2016 - 01:06pm PT
If EC didn't die on those routes he put up, I don't think anything can kill him.- limpingcrab


work is killing me slowly...

 ec




Death Defying...Pressure Sensitive on Moro Rock, Sequoia NP
PAUL SOUZA

Trad climber
Central Valley, CA
Apr 24, 2016 - 01:56pm PT
Stellar route!

The 5.9 fingers in the dihedral was no joke....buuurly.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Apr 24, 2016 - 04:01pm PT
I'll say it again, missing the last bolt on the slab was in the top 3 most intense times of my climbing life.
Archie Richardson

Trad climber
Grand Junction, CO
Apr 24, 2016 - 06:41pm PT
Slab used to have 2 bolts, BITD. The day I lost my mind ...
ec

climber
ca
Apr 24, 2016 - 07:02pm PT
It never had just 2 bolts, except just before I placed the 3rd bolt on the FA of the slab. I added a 4th years later to split the final runout in half.

 ec
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Apr 25, 2016 - 09:17pm PT
Hey EC,
Any idea what year that you added the 4th. I'm thinking that I might have only clipped 2. I remember being nearly certain that, should I fall, I'd hit some big hunk that was far below my belayer.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Apr 26, 2016 - 02:05pm PT
I always thought the 4th bolt was added later.. RETRO... ????

At the third bolt I always thought the climb went RIGHT for about 20/30 feet. Then one finds some nice hand/foot holds made by water... start up the line... the holds get better-n-better as one gets more run out.

And I like the Rap off of WPOD... takes two 50m ropes. Go straight down the climb located RIGHT of WPOD (voodo chile) IIRC the second rap is SHORT (not to the ends, you set up on a lip of a big drop off and go down like 48 meters)... puts one on the ground about 100 feet from the start... and your stuff.


EC Joe?


ec

climber
ca
Apr 26, 2016 - 05:28pm PT
The whole slab pitch diagonals up and right up small water grooves. As I said up thread, 4th bolt added years later (meaning retro, while replacing the original 3 w/Rawl Stainless 5-Piece. #4 is a Rawl 5/16" Buttonhead...round 1999).

 ec
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Apr 26, 2016 - 06:49pm PT
I didn't see the 4th bolt this October- May have missed it but I did trend right.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Apr 26, 2016 - 06:53pm PT
This was before 1999. More like '93. Good times.

That means that I did the pitch with just the first two bolts. Time is making me better. Hehe.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Apr 26, 2016 - 07:13pm PT
did this with Stone Cowboy on 9/4/2004, E.C. sent me some beta... most importantly on how to walk down, and something vague about avoiding the 5.10a move (which I ended up doing, and then realizing what the beta was referring to).

We eventually caught up to Team Yuppie on the fourth pitch, which I think they ended up doing the face to the left of the layback corner. Apparently they didn't know how to climb laybacks.

A strong team was storming up the bottom part of the route. I got the last pitch and at the top I plopped down and gave Stone Cowyboy a hip belay. Mr. Team Yuppie was yelling at me "is that safe?!" apparently he'd never seen a hip belay.

Stone Cowboy made it up, and the Wyoming Boys were quick on his heels.

Mr. Team Yuppie asked if we'd like to share raps with them, we demurred, but the Wyoming Boys said yes...

Stone Cowboy and I execute the beta and are back at 510OW. We get a quick shower from the solar shower, break out the chilled salmon and beers, and wait an hour for the other parties to return from the raps.

As we're driving out to the Pondo for dinner I ask the Wyoming Boys if they have beer, "yah, but it's warm" so we gave them a couple of cool ones. Poor guys had suffered enough.

Radish

Trad climber
SeKi, California
Apr 26, 2016 - 10:10pm PT
I've always walked off the route, heading west and then down the gully between the Sorcerer and Voodoo. Lots of cool views if its not dark! Twice it was in the shoes I did the climb with OCH!! Three times this way, one time we rapped all the way straight down, which your NOT supposed to do. It was dark and I ended up somehow making it. While waiting for the others I went over east and took a pee and there on top of a small boulder was this hammer lying there for some years till I came along!! Best booty ever from a climb and I like to think it was Fred's....
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
Apr 27, 2016 - 12:13am PT
Guyzo, two 50's for the rap? Down Voodoo CHil' wtf?
skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Apr 27, 2016 - 06:49am PT
Cool stuff. On my list, but not with Patty. Too much of an adventure :)
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Apr 27, 2016 - 09:20am PT
Guyzo, two 50's for the rap? Down Voodoo CHil' wtf?


Thats how I roll.... somehow, when ever I have been there with you Kris we pick a bigger meaner prey. Next time we can climb the 4 star classic and I'll show you the smooth and FAST way down....


And EC... thank you for clearing up the Mystery of the 4th bolt.
Reedly

Social climber
The High Desert, CA
Apr 27, 2016 - 11:38pm PT
Back in the late '80's a partner and I hiked up from the road to give it a go. I had a difficult and scary time on the first pitch. Then neither of us could figure out the move out of the little alcove at the beginning of the 2nd pitch. We ended up bailing and hiking down with our tails between our legs.

It's on my list of climbs I need to go back to and do in better style.

~R
Mary Moser

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, CA
May 10, 2016 - 08:17am PT
This was by far the most memorable route I've done. I swung leads with my pal Lisa Davis and was lucky enough to get the even pitches, which of course meant getting to lead the amazing dihedral pitch! A memory for life.
ec

climber
ca
May 10, 2016 - 08:19am PT
BTW, 40th Anniversary of the FA in a few days

from: http://www.vertical20.com/voodoo-dome.html

"White Punks on Dope, III 5.8
It was spring of 1976 Scott Edmiaston and I were up to our usual antics of hanging out in the Kern River Canyon. Climbing was still pretty new to us but we had made an unconscious commitment of immersing ourselves in this fascinating activity. The freedom to explore new terrain and create a different adventure each day was truly addicting. As climbers, we had a blank slate but which to draw, given the vast resources of rock we had in our backyard.

During our ventures to "The Canyon" we encountered Richard Leversee, an individual with similar vision to ours. Richard had the good fortune to have a base camp at his parents cabin at Camp Nelson near Dome Rock and the Needles. Richard's main focus had been at Dome Rock, where he pioneered many of that rock's classic routes. However, on this occasion, Richard had mention of a new line to climb on Voodoo Dome, the most massive formation of the Needles and one of the tallest as well. This open invitation had Richard and his partner Todd Burrell, Scott and myself embarking immediately on a very special adventure.

We negotiated various game trails starting just north of Needlerock Creek below the dome. The route, situated left of center on Voodoo Dome's broad south face was to follow a series of cracks to a long section of slab below the top. Richard forged ahead on the initial lead up a broad left facing corner below the apex of a colorful arch/headwall. Climbing a wonderfully featured straight-in crack, he stopped at a small stance to belay just as the cracks seemed to disappear. Todd led through, finding good, but sparse protection on delicate face moves to the headwall above. Showing true boldness, Todd didn't hesitate to master the moves over the headwall. Adding to our awe of his boldness was watching Todd downclimb the move after he realized how wild the exposure was at the lip! After rationalizing for a minute, Todd continued up, finding a great belay in an cave hidden above the headwall.

While Scott was climbing up, I tunneled through a hole at the top of the cave and scrambled up an easy and interesting chimney. Richard and I made it to a large ledge below an impressive wavelike left facing corner while Scott and Todd followed. Richard and I took turns mastering moves up past some plants and sod at the thinnest spot of the crack in the corner. Richard finally made it through with some continuous finger laybacking. Higher, the crack in the corner cut left into a small roof and back to a corner again. The crack at this point became about eight inches wide and with no protection to fit for the next thirty feet, Richard decided to squeeze chimney! A fall back into the main corner would not be pretty from his position. After thrilling himself and the rest of us emotionally, Richard hauled himself onto a beautiful small ledge below a huge expanse of slab. While following Richard's lead we discovered that though scarier, that an undercling to a layback was much less traumatic than his squeeze chimney.

I took the next lead, heading directly right from our belay a few feet to a system of black knobs. I then ran it out straight-up to a big stance and placed a bolt. Delicate moves out right and up got me to a faint watercourse where I was able to place two more bolts on the way. Heading for a huge pine tree on a ledge above took some route finding. Climbing down a bit, or to the side, then up, and back was pretty standard for this pitch. The final run-out to the tree was pretty horrendous. That fact hadn't occurred to me while I focused on the climbing. Little did I know, but everyone at the belay was wagering on the quantity of the bolts that I would place on that lead!

We discovered a great finger crack to be the final pitch left of the huge pine tree. Richard went ahead and soon got us all on easier terrain and the summit at dusk. We slowly picked our way through the forest back down to Needlerock Creek. Truly, the descent was more epic that our climb. We had to crab craw without the aid of lights for what seemed like an eternity.

Since that day, many others have passed by way of this route, to enjoy its continuously fun and varied climbing. I personally have returned just about each year since to recapture the those great moves. The route has changed little since 1976. The plants in the corner have since been cleaned and the old bolts have been replaced. White Punks is considered by some to be the best moderate freeclimb in the Southern Sierra. I hope it will continue to be an inspiration to others as it has been to me in the search of the climbing experience."

 ec
jeff constine

Trad climber
Ao Namao
May 10, 2016 - 08:25am PT
That was my first multi Pitch route, did it in a few hours with Tommy Grimes, the walk off was no big deal. LOLOL

I lead the 2nd and last pitch. ZZZZ.
Gobie

Trad climber
Northern, Ca.
May 10, 2016 - 11:59am PT
1999 sounds about right. Put some solid Metolius rap hangers on as well. No more walking off the top. Same year we did Voodoo Chile' (Voodoo Chili).
Stone Cowboy

Trad climber
Livermore, CA.
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
let's do a weekintheknees...EC ...and crash the dome...then Mrs. browns brownies?
ec

climber
ca
May 10, 2016 - 05:30pm PT
and watch the UFOs go by...
Stone Cowboy

Trad climber
Livermore, CA.
Topic Author's Reply - May 10, 2016 - 06:07pm PT
yellow brick road or suds of dove dish soap
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
May 11, 2016 - 07:12am PT
Bump.

For reference:
http://www.mountainproject.com/v/white-punks-on-dope/105844453
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
May 11, 2016 - 11:30am PT
I'll show you the smooth and FAST way down....

Yo, Guyzo. I know the rap route. You can go off the top anchor on Voodoo Chile' if you want, but then from the top of the WPOD slab you go down Dihedral Grope, and on the second of those raps you swing over climbers left for the anchor, etc. I prefer walking directly down, back to the car, from the top. YMMV :-)

My question was about 50M ropes? Who uses those any more?

I know we took 50M doubles a few times, but I would have eaten my shorts for 60's in The Gorge of Despair that time...

Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
May 11, 2016 - 12:52pm PT
You've been to GOD? Tell me everything please.
Ksolem

Trad climber
Monrovia, California
May 11, 2016 - 02:28pm PT
You've been to GOD? Tell me everything please.

Four times. Some of the best back country climbing around. But it puts the "back" ito back country.

The Gorge of Despair

I wasn't too worried about spilling the beans since simply getting in there with bivy and climbing gear plus a few days food is a show stopper for 99%. Does that mean I'm in the top 1%?
dee ee

Mountain climber
Of THIS World (Planet Earth)
May 11, 2016 - 02:34pm PT
Yes what a mega classic route it is!

When we climbed it, many years ago there was a Ring Tailed Cat living on the ledge at the top of the 2nd or 3rd pitch.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
May 11, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
.01% for sure.

I want to climb there and do a canyon descent.
Stone Cowboy

Trad climber
Livermore, CA.
Topic Author's Reply - May 11, 2016 - 06:45pm PT
stop whining about work and come climb with me! I will show you work...I get so far off route sometimes that Ed and Gary get pissed. Ed what climb was that? I turned a 5.9 slab into a 5.10d finger cracker into some OW nightmare. That TM dude recommended it to us when we crossed paths on SPD😎 it was The Yawn...and I think I crashed Gary's comms... much love from a wimpy stone slug to my old climbing buds
Archie Richardson

Trad climber
Grand Junction, CO
Sep 25, 2016 - 10:19am PT
It never had just 2 bolts, except just before I placed the 3rd bolt on the FA of the slab. I added a 4th years later to split the final runout in half.

I distinctly remember clipping only 2, 1/4" bolts. I must have missed one of them.

I'd never been on a real slab before and was scared out of my mind. EB's with standard rubber. I bailed off the second bolt (with some difficulty). Then rapped the whole way to the ground. Dragged ass back to camp.

Really good route, BTW. One of the best. I need to go back someday and finish it.
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Sep 25, 2016 - 01:02pm PT
WPOD was a blast...here's a scanned slide from the BITD archive of the rap anchor

Yinzer

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Sep 25, 2016 - 02:36pm PT
Had a wonderful time on this route during my only send of it. I got to lead every pitch. 60M probably is the only way to do P1 without simul-ing.

as for the bolted / 'runout' face... i could see it being spooky with 3. with 4 it feels... reasonable. Seemed obvious to me after the 3rd/4th to work right to the water-groove/ripple steps to make it easier/safer. the moves right after bolt one are the most touchy.

<3 <3 <3 WPOD

walkoff seemed fast enough & efficient .
Burnin' Oil

Trad climber
CA
Nov 9, 2016 - 02:28pm PT
Just got Solem's Needles guidebook and am trying to rearrange my schedule to get down there before the weather turns. Awesome.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Nov 11, 2016 - 02:35am PT
Sorry not my taste in music but the lyrics are clear scary world & times we live in
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