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Dapper Dan
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Redwood City
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Apr 21, 2016 - 10:12am PT
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dammm....very sad , 57 .
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Jon Beck
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Oceanside
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Apr 21, 2016 - 10:25am PT
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Damn, too young. I was never a fan but I did get to see him in 81, he opened for the Stones in LA, it did not go well
On October 9th, 1981, The Rolling Stones played the first of two nights at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum in California. According to many reports and rumors over the years, Prince opened the show wearing bikini briefs and a trench coat. Concert goers were not yet ready for the purple one’s androgynous stage attire and promptly hurled beer cans and insults at him. Prince only got a few songs into his set.
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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Apr 21, 2016 - 10:32am PT
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On October 9th, 1981, The Rolling Stones played the first of two nights at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum in California. According to many reports and rumors over the years, Prince opened the show wearing bikini briefs and a trench coat. Concert goers were not yet ready for the purple one’s androgynous stage attire and promptly hurled beer cans and insults at him. Prince only got a few songs into his set.
Hmm. I was also at that concert and I don't recall much about Prince at all. RIP.
Curt
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 21, 2016 - 10:33am PT
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Very sad. Another super creative soul has been lost.
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brotherbbock
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Alta Loma, CA
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Apr 21, 2016 - 10:37am PT
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 21, 2016 - 10:40am PT
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Somebody post up When Doves Cry
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Apr 21, 2016 - 10:44am PT
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Prince had it
and he shared
it with us.
Love and respect.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Apr 21, 2016 - 11:21am PT
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Well, I guess he's finally partying like it's 1999.
He had amazing talent, for sure.
He'd produce, record and mix an entire album, playing all the instruments, drums, etc. himself. He did one like that way back in the late 1970's, long before it became fashionable for DIY recording artists to do that at home, on computers.
According to many reports and rumors over the years, Prince opened the show wearing bikini briefs and a trench coat.
I saw him on SNL in 1981, and he wore a trench coat and was dressed like Dr. Frankenfurter underneath. He'd spin around, and reveal the lingerie. It didn't seem overly strange, because SNL itself was pretty strange and new.
As I recall, the song was something about, "I just want to party up."
EDIT: I found the 1981 SNL performance of Party Up. The peep show starts at about 2:00.
http://myfunk.ning.com/video/prince-party-up
This is the same video, on a Chinese website, in case the one above stops working.
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNDEzNzQwMDMy.html
Sometimes videos won't run properly in Firefox. Google Chrome seems to always work.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Apr 21, 2016 - 11:31am PT
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More people younger than me dying; it sucks! I always liked Prince, although having him warm up the for the Stones in the 80's may have not been the best pairing. And the guy could play guitar!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 21, 2016 - 11:34am PT
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played basketball with or maybe it was Chapelle. I could never tell the two apart.
His diet was notoriously bad.
Music and game were on.
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Apr 21, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
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I was never a fan of Prince.
Then I had a lady friend that was way into Prince.
Then I became a fan of Prince.
Many fond memories made to Prince tunes. RIP
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Apr 21, 2016 - 02:57pm PT
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Dude was a baller
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Apr 21, 2016 - 04:15pm PT
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No matter how much you liked his music, he was amazingly talented.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Apr 21, 2016 - 04:34pm PT
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His diet was notoriously bad.
Junk food killed him? That's astonishing. He could have afforded an army of dieticians and chefs.
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Apr 21, 2016 - 05:15pm PT
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Not a fan of football, but happen to catch the 2007 Superbowl half time..
Talented man, memorable performance.
Sorry about the talking heads.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Very Cool to see the weather Channel honor him.
Purple rain in the forecast.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Apr 21, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
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Prince and Jimmy Jam Harris played at our high school in 1976. For free.
There's a dance hall in downtown Minneapolis--1st aVenue--If you saw Purple Rain some of the movie was shot there--In the 80's we'd go dancing on friday and saturday nights- Prime danceteria it was called..about once month the rumor was that Prince was going to be playing that night. The rumour made the town electric. And he did this quite often but I never made any of the shows.
sad day for minnesota
Little Red Corvette Baby you were much too fast
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Apr 21, 2016 - 06:24pm PT
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Splater!!! Sweeet sweeet find! He could make that thing sing when he wanted too...
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Apr 21, 2016 - 06:54pm PT
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Our President gave a helluva tribute to him today.
Sure is good to have a cool POTUS.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 21, 2016 - 07:58pm PT
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What??? He was a Vegan dipstick and animal activist.
Better check that one out.
Here I did it for you.
SHORT TAKES : Prince Loses Chef to Junk Food
February 01, 1990| From Times staff and wire service reports
MINNEAPOLIS — Rock star Prince's fondness for macaroni and cheese and canned cake frosting was too much for his chef, who quit after only a month on the job.
"He eats a lot of junk food. I have the feeling it's going to catch up with him," Carmen Bonilla of Minneapolis said Wednesday of the svelte Prince.
Bonilla, 36, a professional chef for 10 years, said she began working for Prince just before Christmas. Her last day on the job was Wednesday.
"He hasn't had the opportunity to develop his palate," Bonilla said of the reclusive rock star. "He doesn't eat out very much because he's shy and he hates the public. . . . He wants the comfort food he grew up on."
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drljefe
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El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
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Apr 21, 2016 - 08:03pm PT
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He was a vagitarian.
Dude was a legend.
Meanest fukkin swagger, epic guitarist, freak of all freaks.
Big loss.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 21, 2016 - 08:06pm PT
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“I’m single, celibate, and sexy,” the singer proclaimed in a 2008 USA Today interview. Prince attributed the change to his conversion to Jehovah’s Witness, and has since sworn off singing many of his old sexually-charged hits like “Darling Nikki” or “Do Me, Baby.” Digging through Prince’s catalog provides endless fodder for lyrics that would make celibates cower, such as the dripping candle imagery and “I’d rather do you after school like some homework” in “Shhh.” Then there’s the Lovesexy album cover above…
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 21, 2016 - 08:18pm PT
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There's a lot of junk that doesn't have meat in it and derives from plant sources, punk. Now I'll let you get back to eating sheeit.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 21, 2016 - 08:23pm PT
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I am generally quite cordial, however I do respond to punk aszholesz.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 21, 2016 - 08:32pm PT
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Didn't recognize it right off. :)
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marty(r)
climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
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Apr 21, 2016 - 08:43pm PT
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Time to catch up on Rolling Stone, 1983 (Russ' doll not included!)
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 21, 2016 - 09:50pm PT
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played basketball with ? or maybe it was Chapelle. I could never tell the two apart.
WHHAAAATTTTTT? quess that was prolly before selfies, eh? i seen him play. It would'a been a dream come true for me to shoot hoops with the Prince. Maybe the only thing i could school him at! Ha. (just kidd'in brother, i'd let you win on your home court). The man was a true rock star! i luve most the guitar in the first few albums. Man-o-man, it was like Jimmy never left, cept, there was something quite different. Something like a, honoring of femininity.... (those words are weak for the complexity of Prince's kingdom). He was a man of huge stature(ain't talk'in bout physical here)in the spiritual realm! He wasn't only a black man playing the baddest white man's rock, doing the best black man's move's. He showed sensitivity behind his harshness..He crossed all the genre's. This was a single minded man, not half this, or half that...
RIP Prince
my world got quite'r knowing yo gon
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Apr 21, 2016 - 11:41pm PT
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In 1997 he gave up meat, mac-N-cheez, canned cake frosting, stopped being a vagin, never again played his Dirty Mind hits and refused all manner of drugs, medicines, intoxicants and similar adulterants to the body.
This is all that was left
[Click to View YouTube Video]
EDIT:
I REPLACED THE VIDEO WITH THE OFFICIAL VERSION
PRINCE WAS TOO MUCH, TOO FAST FOR ME TO COMPREHEND WHILE HE WAS ALIVE.
THANKFULLY, I STILL HAVE SOME TIME AVAILABLE TO ATTEMPT COMPREHENSION.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:53am PT
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Jokeboner is a real ambassador here on ST, every post filled with love and the joy of living. Classy trying to start a brawl on a memorial thread
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WBraun
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Apr 22, 2016 - 07:17am PT
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So ...... nobody knows what cause him to "check out" sooooo early?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Apr 22, 2016 - 07:39am PT
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jokeboner..? LOL...
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 22, 2016 - 08:23am PT
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I've officially reached the big time with an LOL from RJ
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 22, 2016 - 09:26am PT
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jokeboner..? LOL...
Double +10, Ha ha ha ha hahahaaa!!
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 22, 2016 - 09:35am PT
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But I am over watching
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 10:10am PT
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If the story i read was correct, It sounded like he had a bout with the flu recently..
Since he was a Jehovah's witness, drugs don't seem likely.. my guess would be.. flu or pneumonia ..
Autopsy may not be complete today, maybe next week.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 22, 2016 - 10:13am PT
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He'll show me how to survive. OOOOOOOOOOO!!
Basketball is a sissy sport. OOOOOOOOOO!!
Why don't you start your own internet tough guy thread?
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Apr 22, 2016 - 10:50am PT
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I had the H1N1 flu variant a few weeks ago... absolutely crushed me. 103.8 fever max .
I'm in great shape otherwise but even a full week after it peaked my pulse ox was still 91% (at sea level) with mild pneumonia for 2 more weeks.
So the flu this year can certainly kill, and it will.
Interestingly in my 103 degree delirium I was listening to Purple Rain.....
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Apr 22, 2016 - 10:54am PT
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y u mad, jokeboner?
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sac
Trad climber
Sun Coast B.C.
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Apr 22, 2016 - 11:13am PT
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What are you guys, 12 yrs old? WTF?
Trying to find a link to an acoustic set Prince did live at Webster Hall in 2004 I believe? Good sh#t.
What a loss for us.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 22, 2016 - 11:20am PT
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sexy little man
cool clip, Mr.
vvvvvv well of course LT, they were born to it. I am a hunting and pecking mofo
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 22, 2016 - 11:32am PT
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What happened LT you little deleter, wrong clip?
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Apr 22, 2016 - 11:35am PT
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It didn't werk. I guess I'm not 12 after all
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Apr 22, 2016 - 12:08pm PT
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The first song I heard from him was Little Red Corvette, didn't much impress me. Then Purple Rain came out and he was everywhere, still I wasn't sure, couldn't relate too well.
Then, one night I was watching the American Music Awards with a friend. Mostly I didn't like that show because a large portion of the music was canned and the artists were doing a high end version of karaoke. Prince came out and did Purple Rain live. It had so much energy, at one point he kicks over the mic stand in a burning fury of guitar work. I was sold!
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Apr 22, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Apr 22, 2016 - 06:43pm PT
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Hermit Master gives me my chuckle for the day, that is good s. h. i. t
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Apr 22, 2016 - 07:52pm PT
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^^^
Yeah, me too!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 22, 2016 - 08:24pm PT
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The water gets murkier. Prince reportedly told People in 2009 that he suffered epileptic seizures in childhood.
There's talk of two hip replacements needed, heart murmurs. There's speculation running rampant.
I had a friend WK who was epileptic. It's no walk in the park.
When you get to the point that the docs are telling you to replace a hip, you're generally in excruciating pain whenever you move.
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Tobia
Social climber
Denial
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Apr 23, 2016 - 04:11am PT
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♪
The epitome of the man's talent:
Prince w Wendy, Lisa & Sheila E. ≈ Live At BRIT Awards 2006
[Click to View YouTube Video]
It has been uploaded and removed from youtube many times, Prince was no fan of youtube.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 23, 2016 - 06:35am PT
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Bump for better page width
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 23, 2016 - 06:35am PT
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Bump for better page width 2
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 23, 2016 - 06:36am PT
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Bump for better page width 3
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:18am PT
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Hey zbrown... tinyurl.com. Check it out.
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Looks like oxycodone abuse maybe. Such a tragedy.
People need to learn about these mechanisms, dynamics, phenomena,
interactions between body and drug, brain and drug (however you want to describe it)
beginning in youth and then over and over thru the years.
Oxycodone (Percocet) has its place. It's a needless tragedy when people
don't know enough about drug mechanisms that there's little respect
for what can happen, the consequences.
Opiates have their place. But they need to be understood like cliffs and rotary saws - they can be
dangerous, fatal. Today by millions of people opiates are not treated as such.
Peter: "Consequences, David. It's the little things."
David: "The little things... there's nothing bigger, is there?"
Of course one could make the case that when you're older or when you're in certain mood states
you're just more carefree and just don't care as much about things, eg, consequences.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Apr 23, 2016 - 10:21am PT
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Is it just a coincidence that the use of Vicoden, Oxycodone, Fentanyl and other modern opiods has been accompanied by an increase in overdose deaths, and an epidemic of heroin addiction?
Twenty or thirty years ago, there weren't as many people dying from prescription painkiller overdoses, and Middle America didn't have a serious heroin problem.
Are those newly-patented and highly profitable painkillers more addictive and dangerous than earlier meds, like morphine?
Or, are they just more widely available, and more often abused?
Personally, I just avoid the stuff as much as possible. I am very lucky I am not hurt and in pain. I have a baggie full of opium poppy seeds, in case I ever need to grow my own pain medicine. They came from a beautiful plant with big purple and white flowers, which I almost cut down because I thought it was a thistle. The seed pod sap turned a Sherman cigarette into a magical dream stick.
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ecdh
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the east
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Apr 23, 2016 - 04:08pm PT
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Sad to see prince gone. We need pillars of cool weird like that to give reference to all the other sh#t. Same like bowie.
I always appreciated him but it was beyond me. Raspberry beret worked for me even tho i was more a butthole surfers kinda kid.
Dying too early is the mainstay if rock, not that i think prince has. Hendrix was too early, prince may be just right. True rock is not an old mans game. He will never be a relic.
Despite being an 80s icon i have a feeling he will gain more relevance over time.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 23, 2016 - 05:55pm PT
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Jazz; is said to be "all about the spaces between the notes"!
Prince filled those spaces..
Rock; is angst, even angst in love.
Prince proved compassion..
Blues; = Prince
He sure wasn't Black..
We can't even be serious enough to define the meanings positively.
"Don't let the elevator bring you down!!"
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 23, 2016 - 06:01pm PT
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Up till today, who has made greater strides Evolutionalary wise in the social/environmental advancement through the use of music?
Mozart, maybe? Not!
Myles, NO!
Maybe Madonna? gett'in all that black dick, and all. But where were her other skills?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 23, 2016 - 06:43pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
this 4 mins is as much about the teaching what jesus taught the whore brought forth from the village to the city square, and as about as much as buddha ever said..
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ecdh
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the east
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Apr 23, 2016 - 06:56pm PT
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Blueblocker Good line of thinking.
Id vote perry farrel and mike patton.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 23, 2016 - 06:57pm PT
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Kind of a weird coincidence that Vanity died this year also at the age of 57
^^^you call it weird. Science would call it chance, or luck..
We call it, Destiny!
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:08pm PT
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Sheila E. should be watching her ass.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 23, 2016 - 07:47pm PT
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Id vote perry farrel and mike patton.
i like ur picks. Perry, hell ya. Mike sums the criticalization from the broadest of views, imo, with; "all along i'm a victim without you"..
.."i say it's ok to laugh about it!"
but they were merely reverting to the monkey brain. Prince...., Prince transcended..
don't you think?
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Apr 23, 2016 - 08:57pm PT
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Prince transcended i agree. Seemed a spiritual guy. That he did it with a lot of eros i think was his crowning glory.
I think he finished what sly stone, bootsy and maybe even hendrix brought to a head.
Buuuuut....i think farrell and patton connect a broader spectrum of ideas into a more sophisticated outcome.
Monkey brain? Totally, you nailed that. What prince had in straight eros they have in intellectual courage. Theres lots if overlap id say.
Different forms of transcendence? Its a good discussion.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 23, 2016 - 09:14pm PT
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Hard Man Fe Dead
-Prince Buster
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 23, 2016 - 10:03pm PT
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^^^that's queer, in short! Another term for the same meaning; "unfamiliar with a crazy action".
i think Prince in his craziness defined more truths than Einstein
So which ones truths are more important?
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ecdh
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the east
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Apr 23, 2016 - 10:47pm PT
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Queer is good. Most things need a queer element to have integrity. Big gap if otherwise.
Prince or einstein? I like the question. Hard to say, but i think Feynman beats both.
And Iggy beats Feynman!
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Apr 23, 2016 - 10:50pm PT
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Such an immense source of talent for one person.
RIP
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 23, 2016 - 11:50pm PT
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Queer is change. It's a must!
Relating so much with Prince and Einstein. And there will be others, and more.. but Feynnman is a critic, nothing more.. Yet, i'll give'em, maybe someday he'll evolve?
Now he's just an anti-socialist, think about it
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ecdh
climber
the east
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Apr 24, 2016 - 01:19am PT
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feynman was a critic where others feared to be. a true scientist with the courage to apply the method to the protagonists themselves. without critics at the center, science devolves into what it sets out to rise above.
same as any artist. patton kicking holes in style and taste will always trump whatever accolades style and taste may achieve, despite how many stadiums it fills.
prince played the rules very well all the way to the top, a virtuoso talent well padded out by an indulgent industry. this of course has its own value - but its not everything.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Apr 24, 2016 - 08:43am PT
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Fe alternatively fi. What a hard man to kill.
Buster and Rogers Nelson along with Desmond Dekker became fast fiends through their Reggae/Witness connections and studio work...
Nine-Nights, also known as Dead Yard, is a funerary tradition practiced in the Caribbean (primarily Grenada, Dominica, Jamaica, Guyana, Trinidad, Haiti and the Dominican Republic). It is an extended wake that lasts for several days, with roots in African tradition. During this time, friends and family come together to the home of the deceased. They share their condolences and memories while singing hymns and eating food together.
You pick him up, you lick him down
Him bounce right back,
What a hard man fe dead! (Hard man fe dead!)
You pick him up, you lick him down
Him bounce right back,
What a hard man fe dead! (Hard man fe dead!)
Them seh, the cat's got a nine life
But this man got ninety-nine life, cause...
Them pick him up, you lick him down,
Him bounce right back,
What a hard man fe dead! (Hard man fe dead!)
Them boil one pot of chocolate tea.
And all the fried fish they caught in the sea
They also got six quart o' rum
Saying that they waiting for the nine night to come
The last time I heard them say
That this man was dead (this man was dead)
They find him black eyes
And them lay it all upon his head (the man was dead)
Now the procession leads to the cemetery
The man all a howl, Don't you bury me,
You pick him up, you lick him down
Him bounce right back,
What a hard man fe dead!
(Hard man fe dead, ... hard man fe dead)
/Instrumental interlude/
Them boil one cup of chocolate tea
And all the fried fish they caught in the sea
They aso got six quart o' rum
Saying that they waiting for the nine night to come
The last time I heard them say
That this man was dead (this man was dead)
They find him black eyes
And them lay it all upon his head ('pon his head)
You should see them goin' to the cemetery
The old man holla howl, Won't you bury me?
Them drop the box and run,
What a whole lot o' fun!
What a hard man fe dead! (hard man fe dead)
You pick him up, you lick him down
Him bounce right back,
What a hard man fe dead! (Hard man fe dead!)
You pick him up, you lick him down
Him bounce right back,
I am a hard man fe dead! (Hard man fe dead! ... Hard man fe dead!)
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Don't get me started on Dennis Brown, The Crown Prince of Reggae.
BTW, Prince Rogers Nelson was a reggae fan, covering Marley’s “Waiting in Vain” in his recent concerts.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Apr 30, 2016 - 05:38pm PT
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Prince made being weird fashionable and acceptable.
And the world is better off for it.
Most of the wars and conflicts throughout history have been caused by one group of people trying to impress their self-focused idea of what is right onto a different group of people.
My friend said that he saw Prince open for the Rolling Stones in Los Angeles in 1982, and someone threw a Jack Daniels handle jug and hit him in the head.
Prince kept playing that night, and kept playing for the next 35 years.
Prince fought ignorant intolerance, and won.
The rest of us should also embrace tolerance and acceptance and inclusion.
This life we have is too short to waste on making it miserable for ourselves and others.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 30, 2016 - 06:25pm PT
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Prince made being weird fashionable and acceptable.
Uh, I'd say Oscar Wilde had him by a hundred years plus he was more eloquent although,
unfortunately, he didn't quite manage to make it acceptable.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Apr 30, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
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^^^THAT, was hot!
i didn't see anything weird about it.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Prince's representatives arranged for the musician to meet a California doctor to help him kick an addiction to painkillers shortly before his death, according to a newspaper report published Wednesday.
Prince's representatives called Dr. Howard Kornfeld on April 20, the day before the musician died, to seek emergency help, attorney William Mauzy told the Minneapolis Star Tribune
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/report-prince-meet-doctor-death-38865445
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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All that is left is to make sure someone does time for it
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clode
Trad climber
portland, or
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I may have missed it somewhere here, but what was the reason for him taking Percocet in the first place, which eventually led to his addiction and death?
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Chronic shortness? Too soon?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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How?
fentanyl toxicity
Why?
Pain.
In various "reported" versions:
Hip pain
Pain of performing in public
Pain from AIDS/HIV
Take your pick Frankie Boy.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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I've heard from here say that Prince had a problem with sore hips caused he believed by wearing high-heel shoes on stage during his performances. If so, the pain could have been entirely psychogenic. That's one of the big problems with treating essentially psychosomatic pain with highly addictive opioids. Given the structural assumptions behind modern scientific medicine, doctors don't have any other way of treating pain than prescribing pain killers. Vicious cycle. An over-achieving perfectionist who isolates himself like Prince is a perfect candidate for psychosomatic pain symptoms.
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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Here's the DEA on Fentanyl:
Fentanyl is about 100 times more potent than morphine as an analgesic.
Fentanyl is abused for its intense euphoric effects. Fentanyl can serve as a direct substitute for heroin in opioid dependent individuals. However, fentanyl is a very dangerous substitute for heroin because it is much more potent than heroin and results in frequent overdoses that can lead to respiratory depression and death. Very serious stuff.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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If so, the pain could have been entirely psychogenic.
Yes. But have you seen the dance routines he did, and the shoes he wore? And of course he did it a lot. That would end most dancers careers from all sorts of injuries. Sh*t, just walking around in that footwear...
I think he had to keep performing, much like many of us get deeply hooked on climbing. Initially pain meds enabled him to keep going...
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dikhed
climber
State of fugue and disbelief
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Very serious stuff
Yeah he better be careful he could die
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WBraun
climber
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Fentanyl is about 100 times more potent than morphine
Sounds like good stuff.
Do street guys have it and or is it expensive?
Do some Fentanyl and America will run like the wind again ......
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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I heard a report today that the medical examiner in Prince's case made the comment, and I'm paraphrasing:
" He died of an accidental self-administered overdose..."
WTF?
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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It means he didn't mean to kill himself, Ward. It was accidental.
I see. But I thought Dr. Prince was incapable of botching an otherwise simple, straightforward medical procedure?
Are they going to have to drag his "Doctor " into court like Michael Jackson's.
I smell a show trial ratings bonanza.
The medical examiner/coroner must be a golfing buddy of Prince's Doctor .
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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being relieved of pain in all it's forms can drive people to take on unintended solutions.
Agreed.. But that's assuming everything and everyone in this story is on the up and up. But I smell a Michael Jackson type situation. Money. Drugs.
But as the examiner said it was just an accident. Like someone walking along and then slipping on a banana peel or walking into an uncovered manhole.
I could be wrong.
However, may he rest in peace.
Years ago I heard a Prince story that involved an A& R rep giving a big exec at a major label a Prince demo by the then unsigned and undiscovered Prince.
The exec said " sign this guy right away" and " sign the back-up band on the demo. Excellent band"
The A&R then replied " this artist is the band : the guitars, the drums, the horns, the bass, the keyboards, and all the voxes-- and he can dance"
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
Actually my favorite Prince composition.
7:15 am last Monday Morning at the supermarket this song comes on. I was soon moonwalking down the freshly polished floor in the canned fish aisle.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Fentanyl is about 100 times more potent than morphine
Sounds like good stuff.
Fentanyl is available in lollipop form.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actiq
Those pharma bros sure are clever . . . . . . . . . . .
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