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Hardly Visible

Social climber
Llatikcuf WA
Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 22, 2016 - 12:22pm PT
I saw his account was deactivated and wondered why. The guy is entertaining even though a little acid tongued, but never out of line so much that this would be warranted. This place will be poorer without him.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:26pm PT
Werner better not have gotten the boot. This place has changed so much since I found the campfire 8 years ago. I'm sad. I am doing some research on climbing and it led me to ST years ago. So many people/names are missing from the campfire.......and we are poorer for it.....imho.
Vitaliy M.

Mountain climber
San Francisco
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:31pm PT
He likely gained 30 IQ points automatically.
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
I have to believe that status was Werner-initiated. Few people add more to this site than he.

John
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:39pm PT
"You're all a bunch of mental speculators!!!" (1)

"And you're all stupid" (2)

(1) TM comment by Werner Braun
(2) ibid

Curt
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:40pm PT
I didn't peg anyone as a chicken sh#t tattletale. If true it would be sad but not surprising.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
If Werner decided to take some time off, you can all rest assured it was his decision. So maybe a better question is to ask ourselves how it is that supertopo reached a point where it was no longer worth his time.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:42pm PT

I think Werner has disconnected from the ST server to connect better to the Grand server of life... You can easily get lost when often connected to the ST server...

... that's of course a stupid speculation...

... which is quite all right...
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:44pm PT
He must be building lots of cool stuff and renewing his climbing routine to work off a little Supertopo belly.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:46pm PT

Yes, Locker, this is a nonsense thread... let's make the best of it...
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:47pm PT
The Chief had his account deactivated.
brotherbbock

climber
Alta Loma, CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:50pm PT
I will try and use the term crankloon a bit more to make up for the loss.

In all seriousness its a bummer to see him go. I think he gave a unique insight to a lot of topics on this forum.

The man is an OG for sure.
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:53pm PT
Imagine a life so utterly and completely empty that would then want to spend time trying to "ban" another poster on some ridiculous online forum.

I bet those same empty souls were the tattle-tale snitches and Hall-monitors of yore!


"Can I see your hall pass?"
Jim Clipper

climber
from: forests to tree farms
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:53pm PT
sitting here woot-less
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:54pm PT
Werner better not have gotten the boot. This place has changed so much since I found the campfire 8 years ago. I'm sad. I am doing some research on climbing and it led me to ST years ago. So many people/names are missing from the campfire.......and we are poorer for it.....imho.

Roger that Lynne. If Werner chose to leave okay, but I will miss him. I doubt he would be evicted.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 22, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
The man is an OG for sure.

OC......as it were
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
Chief had his content deleted at his behest initially and then came back, but his exodus of late was involuntary.

In case it's not glaringly obvious "Chief" and "The Chief" are two very different people.

Curt
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:07pm PT
Wouldn't be ST without Werner. Come back!!
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:11pm PT
I heard DNC had trademark rights on him.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:15pm PT
Chris Mac-

What is up?
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:16pm PT
"sitting here woot-less"

Fantastic response!

Bummer. Sorry to see him go. Hope his 25,000 plus post remain.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:17pm PT
JEleazarian-
Few people add more to this site than he

Really?
By name only.

To me Werner is one of the great disappointments of the supertopo forum.
To have a legend, who lives in The Valley, with vast experience and insight, post not much more than useless or bitter babble and bump lame threads....it's just a bummer.

Much respect for Werner, the human.
Not the avatar.

divad

Trad climber
wmass
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:17pm PT
that'll teach him to call us stupid..
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:22pm PT
drljefe +1

9 out of 10 posts were becoming very toxic. Of course the 1 out of 10 were usually very insightful and helpful.

And though I hope he took a break and is focusing his energy on the good he can provide to this world it wasn't happening here in my observation. I found it sad to witness as it wasn't always that way.

Doubt he took a hiatus - usually a disabled account is for a reason the admins determine.

He helped me a ton both times I did Facelift SushiFest and I have a ton of respect for the man for many many reasons. The avatar...
Studly

Trad climber
WA
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:32pm PT
If they banned Werner,, then f*#k this place.
couchmaster

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:32pm PT

That's so wrong. Love to see Werner back. He was never malicious unless some dumbf**er like Crankster attacked him first, and his climbing resume was 2nd to none. He added a lot of spice to the campfire, although it's true that the word crankloon was one of his more overused ones.

To Werner, my very best to you sir. Hope you are back soon.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:34pm PT
So silly, couchmaster. Grow up. I made my own peace with the avatar awhile back. If he's gone it's by choice. Either voluntarily or because he ignored warnings from administration. I hope you're getting them, too.


Or maybe it's just a break to work on Hillary's campaign and he'll be back after her inauguration. Personally, I could care less either way.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:39pm PT
I hope Werner is doing just what he wants, regardless of how he got "deactivated."

One more twist of the knife ...
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:42pm PT
One more twist of the knife ...

This place bled out a number of times already. It's like a Zombie. I'm good with the Zombie apocalypse.

It's like Burning Barn
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:56pm PT
malemute, I know I posted here way to much after my husband died. But this place was less expensive than a shrink and way more helpful. I've made many real time friends here and walked into a new life working in the outdoors, leaving a job I never cared for. All thanks to the people here around the campfire.

So, you don't always know what's going on in other peoples lives. If Werner liked to post here, so be it. Who cares how many times a person posts here per day? Jess sayin', lynnie.
brotherbbock

climber
Alta Loma, CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:58pm PT
This is the kind of insight that I'm talking about...

Dale Bard took the big whipper on it. Couldn't get anything in and went for it. Took the rope between his legs and got his vitals.

He came back to C4 bleeding from his balls.

When in doubt run it out .......
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 22, 2016 - 01:59pm PT
HoF*#kinA Russ, too funhny...
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:00pm PT
Anyone who posts on supertopo multiple times a day doesn't have much of a life.

a totally inaccurate troll statement given the ease of access to the internet
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:03pm PT
ballcuppers.org for seven bucks?!?!
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:10pm PT
^^^^^^
IDIOTS!

yep cosmic
to say that about the guy who works pretty damn hard is Idiotic.. damn liberals using the complaint department to their advantage because they are offended.. weak meat!

Cmac you better get ur website organized Werner is a BIG person to have around.
tornado

climber
lawrence kansas
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:14pm PT
That negative turd atom picture cracks me up every time. That thing should be on t-shirts.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:14pm PT
I have never met the inimitable Herr Braun. He's certainly way up on the list of people I would like to meet from the ST, given the opportunity.

Many of you may not be aware that back in his movie making days he was instrumental in the creation of this video. Which instrument? Who knows.

Given the boot pffft - he gives it.


[Click to View YouTube Video]
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
This is bad news and I really hope somebody in the know posts up and explains what happened.

yup, another page in the demise of Stoopertopo.
hooblie

climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
gee wally, it's gonna be like mayberry without archie bunker
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:20pm PT
9 out of 10 posts were becoming very toxic. Of course the 1 out of 10 were usually very insightful and helpful.

Toxic? I was surprised how many of his posts are on non-climbing threads, and many of those are certainly dripping in sarcasm, but come on! You'd have to take yourself and your political views way too seriously to have his comments cause hurt.

I could count on him for knowledge of obscure Valley climbs and incidents. Maybe because I met Werner in the Valley more than 45 years ago (he has no reason to remember me, but I certainly remember him!), I thought it was very hard to take offense at anything he wrote.

In any case, I'm with Lynnie on this. I've met a lot of wonderful people on ST, (she not the least!), and the variety of personalities and the relative freedom on this site keep it fun. And as others already pointed out, his posts aren't erased; his account is merely deactivated. Lighten up, people.

John
cotuclimber

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:22pm PT
I'm dying over here...

Don't do it, the rescuers have left the playground.
John Mac

Trad climber
Littleton, CO
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:26pm PT
Must be a troll. No way could Werner get booted off supertopo.

He is the connection to the real place...
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:33pm PT
You'd have to take yourself and your political views way too seriously to have his comments cause hurt.

majority of these guys are really experts in the Supertopo Complaint dept.
SteveW

Trad climber
The state of confusion
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:36pm PT

Like Aaaahnold, Verner vill be BACK!
Heisenberg

Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:39pm PT
Here's a novel idea......

why doesn't one of his close friends call him?
Holy fak! Actually talk with him on the phone or email him. No.... that's too complicated. Easier to ASSUME.

Carry on with the trolling and assumptions.
Hard to imagine someone has a life outside of here huh?
Heisenberg

Trad climber
RV, middle of Nowehere
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
?? So the dude runs one of the most respected high angle rescue operations thru sign language? And has done so for 30 years?



Impressive
this just in

climber
Justin Ross from North Fork
Mar 22, 2016 - 02:55pm PT
"which wolf wins?..."

the old cherokee simply replied,
"the one that you feed"
Wolves feed themselves.
couchmaster

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:01pm PT

Moose, if you will workout everytime you want to post, you'll be doing one arms and 5.12 in no time:-)



Russ, would Ballcupper.com ( no plural) then be available for 1/2 price?


Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:04pm PT
Say what you will about Werner, the good and the bad-- but the one thing I have found to be true is that Werner is a spot on judge of character. And I do not know him personally.

Once firmly in the witness relocation program he will soon return as a new persona.
Perhaps he has already posted his displeasure with Werner on this very thread.
couchmaster

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:07pm PT


Speaking of Werner and Boots, still with the 1980's style tube sox. Here's a fairly recent pic I took of Werner on Sacher Cracker.


PUT IN A PIECE WERNER:-)

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:24pm PT
Now, buy my damned car stereo!

Thread drift...........

edit: you are a DORK!
rwedgee

Ice climber
CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:32pm PT
They banned him for talking that kid in to rapping The Nose. It took a while but he had it coming.
couchmaster

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:37pm PT


Moose, I'm fatter than you. So sack up man:-)

johntp

Trad climber
socal
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:38pm PT
SEE. . . DOGPILE ON BROCKMAN!

:-)

That's the best I can do. I'm a dork too.....
amyjo

Trad climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:38pm PT



ST without Werner is like Yosemite without the Stone.
ionlyski

Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:45pm PT
Moose, if you will workout everytime you want to post, you'll be doing one arms and 5.12 in no time:-)

Now that's funny! Dudes become the next Ron Anderson. Gotta post every time he hears a damned fart. After drinking Moosedrool I'd say that's quiet often.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Mar 22, 2016 - 03:55pm PT
Every time I read that stupid thing about feeding the wolf, I die a little inside.

Sew dumb.

Which wolf wins, Poppa, huh, which one wins?

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 22, 2016 - 04:25pm PT
Me and the wern were tight
it took years, but we had a mutual respect

No one I know would ever want him banned
Thank goodness he gave up on the crankloon digression
Maybe it was after someone called him The Crankloon
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Mar 22, 2016 - 04:50pm PT
A friend of mine loved doing that with a lighter, lead singer of DI. Sucked in at the wrong time or something and came off the couch howling. Don't recall seeing him trot out that party trick again.

vvvvvv Crack me up they look alike!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 22, 2016 - 05:01pm PT
I am becoming an old bitter fart and I hate that.


Werner is all around us.
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 05:06pm PT
Damn, I loved his irreverent input and his gut check on all of our alleged sanity.

Werner!!! Come back!!!

[Click to View YouTube Video]

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 22, 2016 - 05:20pm PT
Werner must be abiding.
He wouldn't be in hiding.
Maybe he got a chiding.
Now he's on a siding.

Whatever, he abides.
steve s

Trad climber
eldo
Mar 22, 2016 - 05:49pm PT
In a twisted way Werner made the most sense of any of the regular daily posters on this site. His knowledge of climbing in the " ditch" is bar none and he was not afraid to call it how "he" sees it. Peace out Werner.
perswig

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
A friend of mine loved doing that with a lighter, lead singer of DI.

Jeez, overwatch, haven't heard about D.I. in forever. Venus de Milo/EP release early '80s?
Dale
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 06:22pm PT
^*^ Herr Braun is in his seventies and he was still hanging' out on the ST? Now that is funny! At least it wasn't his late seventies.



rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 22, 2016 - 06:30pm PT
WTF is this PC world coming to? Whether Werner left by choice, or the boot, this site is lesser for his loss and the other colorful characters recently preceding him.
Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Mar 22, 2016 - 06:53pm PT
On May 6, 2003, about six weeks after I started posting on ST, Werner welcomed me: "Hello Roger Breedlove Been a long time..."

That it has, my friend.
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 22, 2016 - 06:56pm PT
Yo Ekat, nice. And Kevin, don't know how to say this and I mean it respectfully, but it's better imho to say the negative when they are still around. lynnie
Majid_S

Mountain climber
Karkoekstan
Mar 22, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
werner is supertopo
Rock!...oopsie.

Trad climber
the pitch above you
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:00pm PT
Well F*#k a duck.
jstan

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:09pm PT
ST's forum is being imitated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N22eMZP5phI#t=2532



MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:20pm PT
Caylor, and now Werner.

This place is circling the drain.
couchmaster

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:24pm PT
Hey Moose, no worries buddy. All of us get old. Some of us depart all too soon. But all of us depart. What's left behind is both a body of work and a aura. ST is but a small chunk of it, the largest part of our lives is left behind in those we love and whom love us. In that, you'll be fine. Someday we may both be so blessed to spend a bit of time with each other, mayhaps even tieing in and doing a pleasant lap up some fine cliff or outcrop. If not, it is but life, and I wish you well.

"Sorry, Couch, I didn't get your joke. I am just so tired trying to be active when my health is failing. I am losing that battle, which makes me over sensitive and cranky. I am becoming an old bitter fart and I hate that.

I know you are a good guy."
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:33pm PT
Dude doesn't carry that boombox for nothing. It isn't RIP, it's Rip It UP.

[Click to View YouTube Video]
Lynne Leichtfuss

Sport climber
moving thru
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:34pm PT
Kevin, Well, at least you spelled my name right. :) As for being PC I'm NOT. But you're right, you have the years and the mileage and what you accomplished is awesome.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
Now's the time to take the cheap shots at Werner...Ducks in a pond...!
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:35pm PT
Andy for the WIN!
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:38pm PT
I was skiing with hB and McKinney (well not really, but it makes the story better) one day, when he turns to me and says have you heard "Are You Experienced?" and I answered "well yes, but not yet today, then again I bet you haven't either".

And yes, now that he is on sabbatical, it can be told that the smoking duck idea actually derived from Kirby.


1968's

[Click to View YouTube Video]

jstan

climber
Mar 22, 2016 - 07:42pm PT
Sorry, Couch, I didn't get your joke. I am just so tired trying to be active when my health is failing. I am losing that battle, which makes me over sensitive and cranky. I am becoming an old bitter fart and I hate that.

Moose:
Welcome to the "Fat Boi's' club. It's not all that bad.
T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Mar 22, 2016 - 08:16pm PT
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Mar 22, 2016 - 09:33pm PT
WERNERU AKBAR


Werner Von Braun (aka WBraun, WonderBraun, WVB, the smoking duck) is the one true Yozenite Master.



WERNERU AKBAR

WVB has ascended to a higher astral plane here on earth, that great living Nirvana all true prophets seek to attain.


WERNERU AKBAR

WVB has escaped the tyrannical bonds of earthly material interest in what crankloons are saying on the internet.


WERNERU AKBAR

WVB has bequeathed to us, in written form, his sacred wisdom, screeds and rants.




WERNERU AKBAR


All true believers must perform this ritual, every day, at least once:


Kneel and face toward the lower pitches of the Pacific Ocean Wall

Make a fist in front of the chest, and the other at the waist, to mimic rappelling

Shout, as loudly as possible: HEY WERNER! OFF BELAY!



WERNERU AKBAR


It is the duty of all true believers, who have the ability, to make the pilgrimage, at least once in their lifetime, to the mecca, Yosemite Valley.

The pilgrims must participate in various events, rituals and ceremonies, such as flashing the Nutcracker mantel, doing the first five pitches of Central Pillar of Frenzy, drinking OE800 on the wall and high-fiving on the summit of Half Dome.

All true believers must throw small stones at the rock that represents the climbers' ultimate nemesis, El Capitan.

All true believers must go to Camp 4, and silently stand before Columbia Boulder, and stare at the spot where the original charcoal graffiti lightning bolt used to be.




WERNERU AKBAR


Photos, cartoons or other images of WVB are forbidden.

You may not ridicule WVB, or speak ill of YOSAR.

It is blasphemy to say that WVB obtained the wisdom of rescue techniques from a braying ass.



WERNERU AKBAR

nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 22, 2016 - 10:16pm PT
Not Krishna?
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
Mar 22, 2016 - 10:24pm PT
Some people don't know one Hindu god from another. : )
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Mar 22, 2016 - 10:32pm PT
Maybe he decided to free the shield...

It'll go no problem.

Stupid Americans can't think for themselves.

They only listen to stupid lab coats.

All you have to do is be reborn in your next life as an insect.

Then you can free it and get eaten at the top by a bird.

Stupid climbers ....
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Mar 22, 2016 - 10:59pm PT
hey there say, ... man oh man, i don't get on line enough, to see some of the updates...

hope werner is okay... :)
would he get off the taco, if he is extra busy, ?


hope to see him, again here sometimes...


T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Mar 22, 2016 - 11:19pm PT

MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
Mar 22, 2016 - 11:33pm PT
"Who is Werner, Baby?"


"Werner is Braun, Baby - Werner is Gone."

ECF

Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
Mar 23, 2016 - 05:20am PT
If he left, that's fine.
But if he got the boot, I'm done here forever.

Yes, his posts tended to the preachy sometimes, but if this website thinks it can survive banning him, i won't participate.

Censorship is not freedom.






So who threw the bucket of water on the campfire?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Mar 23, 2016 - 05:46am PT
Some people don't know one Hindu god from another. : )

I suppose it is hard to keep track of all three hundred and thirty million of them
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:22am PT
Hmm- that's a total bummer:( I'm having a hard time believing the management gave him the boot-his comments aren't really in that league. I'm *guessing* it's self initiated.

He does work for a bunch of feds- on a totally random theory- it begs the question if some muckity-muck bureaucrat put the screws to him to be less visible.
Ryan Tetz

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:45am PT
Is this for real? Lame
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:45am PT
He does work for a bunch of feds- on a totally random theory- it begs the question if some muckity-muck bureaucrat put the screws to him to be less visible.

He's been posting here for 12 years so that's probably unlikely.
BigB

Trad climber
Red Rock
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:45am PT
Stoopid crankloons and their attachments
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:47am PT
Werner = das boot !!

Curt
jonnyrig

climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:53am PT
Why don't one of you geniuses who knows him personally go ask WTF and report back here. The endless speculation is just par for the course around here. Congrats on creation of such a sterile environment... I'm sure it'll do WONDERS for you.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 23, 2016 - 07:49am PT
That is a nice rant but graded on The Fish curve only a B or B+.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 23, 2016 - 07:53am PT
No, The Fish skews it up for everybody. I'm gud with B+ as we all need a hug today.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:17am PT
Is that Queer Fistgood from A Fistfull You'll Holler?
couchmaster

climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:19am PT
Here's the only "Boot" Werner should ever have to deal with:


Boot Flake, Daaah Nose.









PS, ^^nice rant^^ PotatoeHead. BTW, is this you?
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 23, 2016 - 09:01am PT
Lurkingtard

climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 09:34am PT
The king is dead...



JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 23, 2016 - 10:49am PT
Kevin's post about Werner wearing down his Yo Hammer made my day. About 20 years ago, I was using my (then) 25-year-old Yosemite Hammer (old style - no caribiner hole) to pound in tent stakes, because I hadn't used it climbing in probably ten years. I got distracted, put the hammer down to tend to something else, and when I returned, it was gone.

Last year I decided it was time to re-learn modern aid, and I needed to replace the hammer. My current Yosemite hammer is pristine. I now know how to fix that condition and save my ego.

John
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Mar 23, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
"go ask WTF and report back here. The endless speculation is just par for the course around here"

However Werneru might just reply that all possibilities exist, depending on what universe you came from previously
snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Mar 23, 2016 - 01:13pm PT
i guess every smokin duck has his day... locker you are killin me.
bvb

Social climber
flagstaff arizona
Mar 23, 2016 - 01:33pm PT
slow day on the forum?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 23, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
No. Perfectly typical, actually.
jonnyrig

climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 01:36pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]


VVVVV
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 23, 2016 - 01:46pm PT
This thread is a bunch a mental speculation from stupid Americans.
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Mar 23, 2016 - 02:50pm PT
But I am glad we have the image of the smoking duck, which will be remembered and associated with the pithy humor of a Mark Twain-type cynical realist climber. Here on the Taco, I think we will review his words for a long, long time, whether we see Werner posting here again or not.

At least we have his entertaining and educational wordsas well as his enigmatic and iconoclastic wordsto keep us thinking. :)

feralfae
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Mar 23, 2016 - 02:52pm PT
This thread is a bunch a mental speculation from stupid Americans.

But you misspelled "stoopid."

;>)

John
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Mar 23, 2016 - 03:01pm PT
LOL

No matter what anyone types now, no one can top Potatohead's exquisite rant.

Potato head, had you considered running for political office? You have the gift.
No, don't run for political office. Keep climbing. It's more honest.

Thank you for a highly entertaining rant, and congratulations on your vocabulary and highly-illustrative ad hominem remarks.

feralfae, who is one of those elderly climbers still working to avoid low-altitude lassitude



zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 03:34pm PT
OK, I got it, but who is the dude with the big red earz? He used to post here too. Be careful who you associate with.

Off White

climber
Tenino, WA
Mar 23, 2016 - 03:52pm PT
I just wanted to observe that while Russ has taken any number of extended absences, he's really hitting it out of the park today. The ballcuppers.com bit was probably the best thing I've seen on the internet all day.
feralfae

Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
Mar 23, 2016 - 04:07pm PT
I like to think he bailed voluntarily to focus his energy on the Trump Campaign.

Wouldn't that be a rather infra dig thing for Werner to do? Really, that is a question. I don't know.

feralfae
cat t.

climber
california
Mar 23, 2016 - 04:42pm PT
Noooooo who will provide sassy defense against Warbler's antilady posts with Werner gone?!?
briham89

Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
Mar 23, 2016 - 05:16pm PT
Man, what a bummer...
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Mar 23, 2016 - 05:36pm PT
Tribute to the quackinator.


Stays up until he comes back.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 05:53pm PT
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:08pm PT
The top one is pretty disturbing
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 23, 2016 - 06:36pm PT
We are all smoking ducks here brothers & sisters!

Duck solidarity forever!


Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 07:11pm PT
I am going to Smoking Duck too - Can't commit to a set time, but hopefully Werner will be back soon.
WyoRockMan

climber
Grizzlyville, WY
Mar 23, 2016 - 07:30pm PT
FACT: Weld_it, BRONSON, Braun.
Brokedownclimber

Trad climber
Douglas, WY
Mar 23, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
Maybe he simply got tired of too many tired, low-T, old and bitter spewers? Really wouldn't blame him if he did.
ryankelly

Trad climber
Bhumi
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:11pm PT
wow so bummed
PolishClimber

Trad climber
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:15pm PT
Solidarity.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:22pm PT
Solidarity within reason.

Jon Beck

Trad climber
Oceanside
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:29pm PT
Duck Accounts Matter
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 23, 2016 - 08:40pm PT
^^^^Prefecto, Professor!
MisterE

Gym climber
Small Town with a Big Back Yard
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:48am PT
Everything is "not ducky" - just sayin'

I'm in.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 24, 2016 - 01:31am PT
We could call a search party.....

Or could we?
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Mar 24, 2016 - 02:00am PT
As foretold in the Sacred Screeds, there would be a reappearance.




So, now:


All true believers must perform this ritual, every day, at least once:


Kneel and face toward the lower pitches of the Pacific Ocean Wall

Make a fist in front of the chest, and the other at the waist, to mimic rappelling

Shout, as loudly as possible, in a Jim Bridwell voice: HEY WERNER! OFF BELAY!



Werneru akbar.





The Smoking Duck is a like a God amongst mere men. Only a man, but, perhaps the greatest.


Werneru akbar = Werner is the Greatest (man).




THE YOZENITE MASTER



Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Mar 24, 2016 - 04:47am PT
Just because a new idea is new, doesn't mean it's good.


And, just because an idea is old, doesn't mean it's good.

Bushman

Social climber
Elk Grove, California
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:03am PT
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Mar 24, 2016 - 08:11am PT
Oh no! What will I do with my day now??!!

Carpe diem oh great leader of the crankloons!
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 24, 2016 - 09:54am PT
I ran into Werner down by the DMZ (valley dispatch). He told me he'd stumbled into cMac, and that he'd told him that he was a stoopid American for letting crackloons run wild on the forum.

Apparently cMac took Werner's words to heart.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Mar 24, 2016 - 09:56am PT
Stoopid American can't even spell "stoopid".

^^ Why does Kirk Douglas have a hole in his chin?

Werneru Akbar.


P.S. I loved the suggestion above about phoning him! Werner is deaf as a post! Stoopid Americans!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 24, 2016 - 09:58am PT
In all seriousness, why is his account 'deactivated'?

Seems odd.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:14am PT
Bump for Norton the snitch


So you know something????? Don't hold back
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:18am PT
Holy f*#king sh#t. Email the guy if you're all so concerned.
I love how people are all buddy buddy on ST, dropping names and talking about BITD but they can't even call or email the f*#king guy to see what's up.

Same thing happened when Norwegian took off. Guess it's better to speculate than actually find out. Feigned concern? Who knows. Just STFU already.
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:22am PT
Shutting the f u c k up doesn't fuel threads speculation does

^^ Why does Kirk Douglas have a hole in his chin?

dickclit tickler?...too soon?
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:27am PT
Norton had nothing to do with it

It's just chicken sh#t talk by the losers that need to blame the people they hate the most

No liberal has anything to do with Werner's banning

He brought it on himself

You personally attack other posters and admin will some day ban you're ass

that's how it works

and the other haters that can't stop the constant childish attacks on other posters will someday some day get the boot as well
deservedly so

It's the barely existing admin moderation policy
jstan

climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:28am PT
In all seriousness, why is his account 'deactivated'?

Seems odd.













Well.













Yeah.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:39am PT
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:59am PT
Could it be that "smoke 'em if ya got 'em" is no longer in vogue?



But wait, didn't most anti-fascists smoke?

T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Mar 24, 2016 - 10:59am PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:17am PT
zbrown! Re your mention:
Could it be that "smoke 'em if ya got 'em" is no longer in vogue?

My "real-men smoke" ST thread:
Gauloises, Don Whillans, the Frogs, and Climbing History.

faced a little PC anti-smoker resistance, but some great stories got told on it.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1410426/Gauloises-Don-Whillans-the-Frogs-and-Climbing-History

ECF

Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:31am PT
I don't think you can "deactivate" your own account.

So yeah, we do know he was banned.
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:34am PT
Studly, here's a link to starting your own website:
http://www.thesitewizard.com/gettingstarted/startwebsite.shtml

You can have total control of the rules - no holds barred.

I'd suggest that your friend is probably fine and only taking a temporary break from Chris McNamara's & RJ Spurrier's discussion forum by choice, or doing a quick stint in the timeout chair for engaging in the kind of attacks you frequently engage in. Being a member of the stonemasters or any other ad hoc climbing group shouldn't exempt anyone from maintaining a degree of civility.

I made my peace with the guy and wish him no ill will. His posts regarding rescue efforts are first-rate. Most of the rest I ignore.


Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:35am PT
yes, it's the usual ST drama queen speculation circle jerk

with the jerks coming out of the wood work to scream bloody murder

If anyone got Werner banned it was from the Religious thread, that us liberals avoid after it became the mind thread.

The biggest dicks here are the ones doing the ugly personal attacks, like the ones above

I don't attack others I don't agree with, I debate them about the Topic
Sorry your mind can't discern the difference

Bullying and Personal attacks, some people just can't look in the mirror.
When you use their name or photo and call them nasty names, it's a personal attack
which is the reason folks get banned, like it or not
it may take time, or it may happen overnight, talk to Admin if you have a problem

there are a-holes a plenty here on ST
Don't let the door hit you on your way out
blahblah

Gym climber
Boulder
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:37am PT
I don't think you can "deactivate" your own account.

So yeah, we do know he was banned.

There is a non sequitur between your "thinking" in the first sentence and "knowing" in the second.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:44am PT
He doth protest too much me thinks....
ECF

Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:44am PT
Well, I tried to find a way to deactivate my account and I couldn't find it.
If it is there somewhere, please educate me.

I don't know if it doesn't exist.
Because no one can possibly know if something doesn't exist, unless one is omnipresent.
I think it doesn't exist because I looked for it.

apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:47am PT
Maybe not manually, but I bet you could ask the mods to do it for you.

But that would be a really boring answer. Much more fun to speculate dramatically and endlessly.
fosburg

climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:50am PT
I wanna be deactivated! Whoever booted Werner is an idiot! CMac is a profiteer! All you anonymous posters are way full of shit!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:50am PT

With so many ducks here. Here's a Buddhist duck:

zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:54am PT
The ST server is not all that secure. You do not even have to go to Israel to have it hacked. Ask Paul Ryan if he decides to run for President.

As with all things in life, however, follow your mom's lead, be persistent and be prepared to take a few lumps.

I know that I think Herr Braun has leaned this. I'm positive there are many here among us who have not.

[Click to View YouTube Video]

ECF

Big Wall climber
Ridgway CO
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:02pm PT
Well, locker, I did that years ago and he never did.

If you want to lock yourself out, change your password to a bunch of random letters then c&p into the confirmation window.

That's what I did.

I tried to get out but they keep pulling me back in!
 al Pacino in Godfather III
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:02pm PT

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:17pm PT
Sorry, but I cannot see Werner saying anything here that would get him 'deactivated'. I've gotten warned once that my language was a bit too profane, but f*#kin-A, Werner doesn't roll that way.
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:34pm PT
Well, word has come down from the man himself... Here is a voicemail he left on my machine:

WARNING: this is NSFW and contains lots of profanity.


Werner Banning

Werner sounds oddly Puerto Rican there...

Curt
Wayno

Big Wall climber
Seattle, WA
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
I give it a 4.7/10.

Yeah, that didn't even sound like him.

He has to be laughing his ass off about this whole dust-up.

Werner is where Werner has always been. Right inside his own skin. Somewhere in Yosemite. A prisoner of his own design. Doing time.

Cheers, Werner.

sangoma

Trad climber
south africa
Mar 24, 2016 - 12:41pm PT
The "Smokin Duck" has pulled of the bigest troll of all times.



Ye sTuuPid UmeriK00nZ
Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 24, 2016 - 01:34pm PT



LOL, like any of deserve any kind of explanation.

Exactly. Though 'deserve' really shouldn't matter. There is no reason to explain.



[Click to View YouTube Video]
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 24, 2016 - 01:59pm PT
+1 for CARBUNCLE!

 Rotten Tomatoes deems the Fish-Puerto-Rican-Werner gag rant 88% fresh!


And this one is so streamlined ... it's pure brilliance:

All you anonymous posters are way full of shit!
 Fosburg
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Mar 24, 2016 - 02:25pm PT
Fosburg?

Never heard of 'im.
ontheedgeandscaredtodeath

Social climber
SLO, Ca
Mar 24, 2016 - 02:45pm PT
Self deportation? Banned? Technical problem? Who knows? I've never really understood Wbraun's posts but wish him well in real life.
KP Ariza

climber
SCC
Mar 24, 2016 - 04:05pm PT
Fosburg?

Never heard of 'im.

Of course not. And I'm sure he would prefer it that way. He's an actual talented, accomplished climber.
rbord

Boulder climber
atlanta
Mar 24, 2016 - 05:12pm PT
I don't think you can "deactivate" your own account.

So yea, we do know he was banned.

I speculate about stuff, and then promote my speculations into knowledge. Werner would approve :-)
Tobia

Social climber
Denial
Mar 24, 2016 - 05:43pm PT
I may have been pranked on the voicemail. Valley area code is 209 (or used to be?)

This was the call back number: (775) 246-2521, not the SAR Cache in Yos.


Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 24, 2016 - 05:57pm PT
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:00pm PT
Just back from Indian Creek and don't want to dig thru 269 posts. Bottom line....did Werner actually get booted?
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
He didn't get booted.

He ascended out of the McTopo online mosh pit.





Whether he did it himself, or was elevated by a higher power (CMac) is irrelevant.


The Man is gone, and the Myth has taken his place.



Werneru akbar
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:16pm PT
273 posts in and we still have no idea if it was admin or Werner who did the deed...
GDavis

Social climber
SOL CAL
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:24pm PT
those americanz are muhfukaz mannn fuhkum
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:52pm PT
Bushman

Social climber
Elk Grove, California
Mar 24, 2016 - 06:58pm PT
Carbuncle.
Now I can say carbuncle.
Carbuncle.
Carbuncle.

Anything less would be disappointing.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 07:11pm PT
Anyway, I got a private email from Herr Braun today. We've been working together on some computational matters and while he asked me not to say anything about this boot_strap stuff, he did say:

Go Ducks. Teach those Blue Devils something about religion (and science).

ALL TRUE, with minor editing.


Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
Mar 24, 2016 - 07:20pm PT
Well it finally happened: a no passing, live, reincarnation.

We all know that Werner has always told us that life was an illusion. We all mostly accepted this, but we knew, deep in our hearts, Supertopo was real.

Here is the inside scoop.

Mary heard Werner muttering "whiskey tango foxtrot," and walked into the room with the computer Werner used to post on StoopidTopo. Werner was floating about four feet off the floor with a combination dazed/delighted look on his face. Mary asked what was going on and Werner said, "I was typing a post and everything just disappeared. I can see you and me," as he turned his hands in front of his face, "but every thing else is just green. The keyboard and monitor are gone along with everything else"

Mary smiled, and said "Welcome back, sweetie.

pss: In this reincarnation story, I spelled Merry's name wrong on purpose, rather than implying Werner's suffering being called sweetie by Wayne.

Anyway, I try to use as many different spellings as I can, lest anyone think I can't spell.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 24, 2016 - 07:54pm PT
That's "Merry," Rog.

There is a diff between uninformed and stoopid.

You're mot even close to being on the cusp of stoopid.

Probably just forgetful at yur age.

STill, it's a crock of shyte to think he's gonzo instead of bozo because he's still on this bus--he's just in the john staring at the blue water sloshing, and saying Sierra Hotel India Tango as a mantra.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 24, 2016 - 07:57pm PT
Yes, Roger, I'm pretty sure her name is spelled Merry.

Labrat suggested:
273 posts in and we still have no idea if it was admin or Werner who did the deed...

I'm somewhat sure such a determination is well beyond the scope of this kind thread. This is a cocktail of finger paints with a mud bath chaser.

If we really get our mojo, it may serve the higher purpose of a Wonder Brawn appreciation thread.

In hopes of dispelling our demons and loosening the propitious wee wee of the angels ...
 Cue either "Row, Row Your Boat" or "Que Sera, Sera"

3 cheers for Werner!
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 08:00pm PT
OK all you lames, the San Berdoo iPhone has been successfully hacked

Israel pffft. B&B? hell no, it ain't no bed and breakfast, just a couple of Hi-Tech gurus.

I cannot help but wonder, if that check is really in the mail.










Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 24, 2016 - 08:02pm PT
The Werner will have the last laugh, of that I am unanimous.
jstan

climber
Mar 24, 2016 - 08:15pm PT


Roger Breedlove

climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio

Topic Author's Reply - May 27, 2010 - 05:35pm PT
Send that bird east, Werner. Have her (it has got to be a her, right) drop the ring on the south shore of the 4th lake after the last mountain. I will keep an eye out.

Werner, it was great to see you and Meri.

As I get older I, strangely, find my memory getting even better.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 24, 2016 - 09:24pm PT
Its ok. the Ducks beat the Dukes tonight.

Srbphoto

climber
Kennewick wa
Mar 24, 2016 - 09:32pm PT
hamie

Social climber
Thekoots
Mar 24, 2016 - 11:24pm PT
Werner

Witty

Wise

Whimsical

Will be missed.



The Taco

More and more

About less and less.
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 25, 2016 - 05:44am PT


Whether the weather be fine,
Or whether the weather be not,
Whether the weather be cold,
Or whether the weather be hot,
We'll weather the weather,
Whatever the whether,
Whether we like it or not.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:48am PT
Werner will come find and rescue you in all kinds of weather--one of his most important functions, aside from stirring the shi-yut here.Old MacDonald had a farm...GO DUCKIES!

Werner climbs like a goat.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Mar 25, 2016 - 08:00am PT
Mayday


[Click to View YouTube Video]
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 25, 2016 - 08:01am PT
So, what was on the iPhone?

It has not been completely reviewed by FBI yet, but Herr Braun can't say here and I won't.

We're working on a book deal, but neither of us is working that hard on it, what with my other consulting work and hB's royalty checks.


To wit:

(signed edition extra)




zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 25, 2016 - 08:23am PT
Some iPhone content cleared by NSA.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=539369&tn=18880#msg2787185
snakefoot

climber
Nor Cal
Mar 25, 2016 - 08:36am PT
^^^ ZBRO, are you having a separate conversation with somebody?
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 25, 2016 - 11:29am PT
^Yes. Braun & Brown. Our communication is mostly [highly] encrypted. The music, however, is decoded and ready to play, but I don't think hB hears all that well.

He does not leave voicemails, mainly because some vandals broke his handle and he has not received a new key.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 25, 2016 - 12:13pm PT
We are are all smokin' duck nowLEMMINGS have nothing on Ducks,
Follow the leader
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 25, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
WBraun will most Likely turn up, after Easter. After the celebration of Coz, at Gordo's, on Saturday 3/26/16
So after a week or so, they will need so time. they are some old codgers some more than others. . ..
A gathering like that, lots of hydrating, & sweating, (after the Single Malt.)
THNX TODD, SENDING THE ENERGY JTREE WAY
Godspeed Scott . . . .
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 25, 2016 - 01:25pm PT
Don't worry about it as he is part of the nutbar crew that posts retarded sh#t all day long with Mouse and Gnomer in their retarded flames thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Herr Braun reads it and apparently you do too. Have you farouked yourself lately. Did you get it stuck in your mouth or is it still in your arse?

Try pulling it out, it may solve you keystroke problem.

After all, repetition is the mother of retardation, right? You you wouldn't want all the other guys to know that you're not only a punk, but mentally defective as well.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 25, 2016 - 01:40pm PT
Don't worry about it, etc.

As if no nutbars exist outside Middle Earth and envirions...

I appreciate your words of comfort, brother Faroukalooni.

I know it looks like we are ganging up but that's not the case.

I want you to know that if I had a deviated septum I would call it Farouk.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Mar 25, 2016 - 03:41pm PT
mmm! Walk on the wild side. How many more routes are done on that face?
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Mar 25, 2016 - 04:36pm PT
After 28 pages of nonsense about ignoring history & sanitizing route names,
this was the fun addition I think it is from 2/10/16 but i may be off by a few days.


(AND THE ) "COLORED GIRLS" (GO) / NEGRO GIRLS a.k.a. US AND THEM

Negro Girls is not really my route. The FA belongs to Kurt Smith. In fact, I almost snaked his FA by soloing through him and passing him as he was bolting it up on lead. But I didn't complete that folly.

This was before Kurt Smith really had chops, so well before 1988. I'm pretty sure it was 1984. I started bouldering the route, even before Kurt had topped out on his FA. I was wearing a Walkman, listening to the B-52s, and smoking a joint as I climbed. I climbed next to his rope and passed up the first bolt. Then I went over a little overlap and went past the second bolt. Kenny Ariza , Kurt's belayer, wasn't very happy with me soloing a route they were still trying to complete.

Kurt was drilling the last bolt on the first pitch and I decided to just go on up and see how things were going for him. Obviously, I had plenty of confidence that Kurt wasn't going to fall and sweep me off the face. He wasn't so nonchalant!

As I came up to his drilling stance, un-roped and relaxed, Kurt pleaded that I not finish his route before he topped out. (Yes, I was being a brat). I finally realized my prank would've devastated him, so I waited for Kurt to finish his FA. I flipped over my tape while he pounded his last bolt, and then he completed the pitch, getting the FA. Understanding that humiliating a young climber by soloing around on his new FA before he finished it wasn't such a good idea, I actually had him throw me the rope and I tied in to finish the pitch from that last bolt.

I am surprised to hear I am credited with the FA. It should be Kurt Smith and Ken Ariza. I was just a fly in the ointment. Technically, it's true, I was involved, but in a weird, gray area, stupid sort of way. This is the first I've heard of (sic "Colored Girls" / "Negro Girls", On the face to the right of - Walk on the Wild Side.

As I see it, Negro Girls is a coarse and clunky play on outdated norms and a pop song. Sure, I could've made such a gaffe, but I don't remember being involved in naming the route. It was their route to name. They named it "Us and Them". Colored Girls would be more apropos for a route on that rock and would be more pleasing to me aesthetically. But I already have a Colored Girls route, as far as I know.

Berg Heil !
Roy Mc
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 25, 2016 - 04:54pm PT
Listen up polesmokers....

He's gone!

Super cute how you change your avatar pic in honor though.
Just like pride, France, Belgium.....
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 25, 2016 - 05:28pm PT
From rehab? Aren't you due to go to texting rehab soon?
labrat

Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
Mar 25, 2016 - 05:50pm PT
All is back to "normal" in the world of ST now???

Yay!!!!!
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 25, 2016 - 05:51pm PT
No, Jim, hopefully you won't have to wake up and look at me tomorrow.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Mar 25, 2016 - 06:56pm PT
All is back to "normal" in the world of ST now???

Yay

Well, if you don't count the 28 smoking duck avatars...
StahlBro

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:06pm PT
Thank god. I wasn't sure I could go on living...
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:09pm PT
But, Butt, Butte!

What will all the pissers & moaners on this thread have to piss & moan about now?

Fuking Obama,
must be behind all this!

Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
Stoopid Americans.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:38pm PT
Waiting to drop some dead duck pics. I got this.
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:40pm PT
I'm not sure I understand the Universe-According-To-Werner, but I think it involves the meaninglessness of the physical world, and something about reincarnation.

So, if Werner passed on, as it seems he did, what are we to make of the Wbraun avatar that has been reincarnated on Supertopo?

Is it Werner?

I'm not sure. I don't pretend to have any deep understanding of this, but I think that once you've passed into the Bardo, whatever returns to the material plane is not really you. Maybe your essence is in there somewhere, but it isn't you.

So who/what is this reincarnated "Wbraun"?

My only hope is that he was reincarnated, not reintarnated. For Werner to come back as a hillbilly would be... No. Let's not go there.
phylp

Trad climber
Upland, CA
Mar 25, 2016 - 07:43pm PT
Oh, crap. I was hoping to get the 300th post on this thread. That's what I get for going out all day instead of sitting in front of the computer.

hi Werner, where ever you are... Best wishes.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado & Nepal
Mar 25, 2016 - 10:11pm PT
He certainly sounds like his old self on the What is Mind thread and his account has been reactivated it seems. Maybe just the all time troll
T H

Boulder climber
ne'erdowell
Mar 25, 2016 - 10:47pm PT
"Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe."
SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, A sailboat, or some time zone
Mar 25, 2016 - 10:48pm PT
Oh my. I knew I shouldn't have had that last glass. Seeing double?


Susan
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Mar 26, 2016 - 03:46am PT
He posted yesterday . . .
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 26, 2016 - 05:52am PT
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 26, 2016 - 02:49pm PT
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Mar 26, 2016 - 02:54pm PT
Supertopo's own personal Jesus.

Obligatory Legendary Photo

fosburg

climber
Mar 26, 2016 - 03:12pm PT
What was he gone for, like three days?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Mar 26, 2016 - 03:17pm PT
Why is Christopher Walken soloing with a boom box?
PSP also PP

Trad climber
Berkeley
Mar 26, 2016 - 03:21pm PT
That's funny!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 26, 2016 - 04:07pm PT
Listen up peoples, Werner himself prolly doesn't even know what happened.

One of my lesser hobbies, when not noodling around with orbital dynamics, is intercepting and decoding Harkonnen transmissions.

Here's the skinny, actually, my best guess, as of 2:30 AM, Greenwich time:



Werner was doing the usual, tinkering around with gross physical reality:
(prepping some wiring for a flashing cherry install on the roof of the Lemans)






When he finished, all stoked and stuff, he thought to celebrate, and did the Werner Wiggle:







But, BUT, ... Simultaneously at the FISH compound, the Taint Abrader was spooling up:


artwork by Peter Haan





Then, THEN, the space-time continuum experienced a ruffel in one of the event horizon ridges, (in layman's terms, a cosmic fart) and this event occurred:


artwork by Peter Haan





Well, none of us need an explanation for what happens after THAT:
(for the uninitiated, Werner's FIFTH MANIFESTATION)


artwork by Peter Haan



and his account was deactivated.


Chris Mac, high up on one of the seven continents , threading artes on his rice rocket, was (and is) unaware of this ripple in the space-time fabric and the SuperTweako anomalous deactivation.



Even Werner didn't, or doesn't know.
Until he reads this thread, of course. I mean How else?
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Mar 26, 2016 - 05:32pm PT
fosburg

climber
Mar 26, 2016 - 06:18pm PT
More likely he was dealing with the ever-problematic Bendix drive in that auto repair photo.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 26, 2016 - 06:55pm PT
Some words of Herr Braun


Go up to Glacier Point at the railing some time.

Take a close look down and you'll see small bone remnants everywhere from past "Memorializing" ......
John M

climber
Mar 26, 2016 - 06:59pm PT
Too Funny Tarbuster!

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 27, 2016 - 07:22am PT
Tarbuster! Thanks for taking the time to work out & explain Werner's temporary transmorgification. I believe your work also needs to be cross-posted on The Ark on the Moon thread, since more deep-thinking loonies frequent that spot.
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Mar 27, 2016 - 07:44am PT
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Mar 27, 2016 - 08:48am PT

American Boots. Werner the patriot wants a pair of these.
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Mar 27, 2016 - 09:16pm PT
Taint Abrader . . . now that's funny! One of the best ever.
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Mar 28, 2016 - 02:47am PT
It's just coincidental. It has NOTHING to do with an Easter ceremony.

WVB has come back, from being digitally dead.















Werneru akbar



It is not blasphemous to say that a man is the greatest. A man can be the greatest, without any sort of blasphemy that he is venerated as a God.

Werner is not a God.

Werner is a God-like man that we all aspire to be.



God-like is not God.



God-like is pretty good, and we should all aspire to the same.



Werneru akbar.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Mar 28, 2016 - 10:08pm PT
Werner climbs like a girl makin' a duck face.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Mar 31, 2016 - 08:42am PT

Thanks for all the years of disappointment. :-)

Glad you're back
WBraun

climber
Mar 31, 2016 - 10:14am PT
I need NEW BOOTS.

I will head over to Chris McNamara excellent gear review labs to see what are the best boots for getting the new boot ......
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Mar 31, 2016 - 10:31am PT
In Roy's first picture you seem to already have two boots...wtf?
throwpie

Trad climber
Berkeley
Mar 31, 2016 - 10:59am PT
A duck walked into a drug store and said "give me a tube of chapstick and put it on my bill"
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