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pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 4, 2016 - 08:22am PT
Im really excited yet also cautious.
Being part of this rock climbing forum is all fun but REALITY i need to make $$$..

Thinking of getting A MOBILE KLIME WALLZ!


Anybody on this rock climbers forum got any BETA?
anybody on this forum ever VENTURE into such great idea..
I plan on also providing loud music so the kids will FEEL like a bad azz rock star..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 4, 2016 - 08:25am PT
^^^^^ Better have an insurance rider protecting you from causing epileptic attacks!
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2016 - 02:25pm PT

reilly here is the business model!

I'm going to purchase giant fiberglass figures.. figures like Ron Kauk Dean Potter Steck Salathe etc..

Whoever's birthday party will get a History Lesson on who they a climbing up on!

I'm saving my money but this is the VISION..

also will add the feature of fog and a Timer..
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Feb 4, 2016 - 03:57pm PT
It will be pretty hard to mantle up over that boombox.
RyanD

climber
Feb 4, 2016 - 06:26pm PT
U needz to hire the medusa to lap out and do demos while you crank van halen whilst driving between locations.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2016 - 06:51am PT
This fiberglass figure is perfect however needs a 5.12 thin fingers crack..




Ryan d thanks will consider the medusa co business owner..

I love it birthday parties Van halen history lesson how could you NOT win business..
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 5, 2016 - 07:32am PT
Pyro-

Are auto belay devices included?

Just out of curiosity, what does that thing cost?
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2016 - 11:10am PT
Johntp check this one out.. 1k gets you a 6ft doll..
I priced giant giraff at 20k



Takes money to make money..

Birday parties will never be the same..
Cole

Trad climber
los angeles
Feb 5, 2016 - 12:58pm PT
Oh man Pyro I can totally see you doing this! Jump in with both feet!
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 5, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
Pyro-

I was talking about the cost of the climbing rig.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Feb 5, 2016 - 01:03pm PT
Do it man! You should gamble everything!
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Feb 5, 2016 - 01:06pm PT
Ive sent a PM in case you're serious about the portable climbing tower.

John
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Feb 5, 2016 - 01:14pm PT
You're telling me you need a sixty foot durable plastic giraffe with life-like neon orange genitals?

I can do fhat. Sh#t I can getchya that by 3pm.


No seriously, you should start a kickstarter. I'd kick ya a loonie or two
Chugach

Trad climber
Vermont
Feb 5, 2016 - 01:28pm PT
Without a really good plan, it looks like a way to piss away money. The most successful Entrepreneurship is 70% strategy, 30% effort and 0% risk. It can always be done but it's never easy.
jstan

climber
Feb 5, 2016 - 05:24pm PT
I'm going to purchase giant fiberglass figures.. figures like Ron Kauk Dean Potter Steck Salathe etc..

Is anyone surprised that someone who has posted here 4481 times does not realize there was never a person named Steck Salathe? I suggest we begin giving new people a test before allowing them to post.


Being part of this rock climbing forum is all fun but REALITY i need to make $$$..

This poster is the first hard evidence that John Long is right. We now have a verifiable case where a person has not needed a real world in which to live,


ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
Feb 5, 2016 - 10:39pm PT
Don't do it - you'd just be another "carny" at the county fair.
grover

climber
Castlegar BC
Feb 5, 2016 - 10:49pm PT
I can do fhat. Sh#t I can getchya that by 3pm.

With nail polish???

Cool concept Pyro, good luck!!!!
bamboo

Trad climber
pike co
Feb 8, 2016 - 06:06pm PT
don't forget the hundreds of firemen's carnivals that go off all summer!!
---right next to the beer tent!!
---I think the carnie lifestyle would be good fit for a climber


good luck!!!
DanaB

climber
CT
Feb 8, 2016 - 06:35pm PT
This poster is the first hard evidence that John Long is right. We now have a verifiable case where a person has not needed a real world in which to live.

John, it's nothing new. I used to spend a good part of my working day, for almost 19 years, talking to people who lived in a parallel universe. The most amazing things happened to them.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 8, 2016 - 08:18pm PT
Pyro, don't quit yer day job, bro! I assume you started this thread as a
joke because I don't see a viable business model. Besides, when Bernie
gets into office the first thing he'll do is outlaw climbing and circuses.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Feb 8, 2016 - 08:21pm PT
Who the f*#k is Kauk Dean?
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2016 - 08:03am PT
Pyro, don't quit yer day job, bro!

that's right reilly I cant quit the day job because I'm saving so I can Start-UP this exciting job.. what else am I going to do when I retire post on political Bernie thread all day..

This is going to be a really fun thing to operate..
I'm factory working today bu plan on sketching out a draft business plan.. I'll post up ASAP.. Thanks for the beta comments yall.




Who the f*#k is Kauk Dean?

who the f*#k is drljefe
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 9, 2016 - 08:21am PT
Okee dokee, but let me give you some beta. Go to the US Small Bus Admin* website. There
is a wealth of good info there, including a mentor program of retired dudes who know what
they're talking about. There is also commercial business plan software available that will
make you think and answer the hard questions that need to be asked. There's a lot of home-
work you need to do and there WILL be a test, a pass/fail test. ;-)

*Sometimes the gubmint does gud things! ;-)
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 9, 2016 - 08:36am PT
+1 Reilly^

Better get a reality check on insurance premiums for those rigs while you are at it.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 9, 2016 - 08:28pm PT

NOTES: ACCESSORIES
these are my notes about what you get when one comes to the CELEBRITY ROCK CLIMBER mobile klimb wall..
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 9, 2016 - 09:55pm PT
Dood, not cool to plagiarize yer business plan from Captain Kangaroo!
BwaHaHaHaHa!
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Feb 10, 2016 - 09:34am PT
There was a story a few years ago on a death when the auto-belay on a carnival climbing wall failed.

Also, I don't get what is so funny about this idea as a business idea. Plenty of people have tried it and climbing walls have completely become mainstream. Here in Asheville, they have some where people pay $5 for ONE climb.



Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 10, 2016 - 10:31am PT
I don't get what is so funny about this idea as a business idea.

First, it's not funny, it's fun. Even Pyro gets that. ;-)
Second, any business is fraught with potential problems. Why do you think Murphy is famous?
Third, a lot of smart (or smartass) people at Lehman Bros thought they had the sub-prime
mortgage business all sussed out, too.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 10, 2016 - 11:42am PT
Entrance fees for an exhibit at county fairs, etc. are pretty steep.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Feb 10, 2016 - 11:51am PT
- Hook up with Party Planners. People with lots of disposable income like to have special things as their kid's birthday parties.
 Consider it as an option for a fundraising tool. Schools, scouting groups, churches, and other not-for-profits that are holding an event can have the climbing wall there and people donate to the group for climbs. Someone who has no interest in climbing could donate a certain amount of money which allows for X number of free tries for kids under 12 or whatever... Grandpa would happily pay up for that, especially with the wee ones chirping "PLLLLEEEEZZZZ Grampa?"
 Work with local strip malls, furniture stores, car dealerships, etc. that could use some traffic.... They pay you to bring the wall over, the stores all have some sort of promo, and people can climb for free.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 10, 2016 - 12:04pm PT
Work with local strip malls,

And if they have two ounces of brains they're gonna wanna see that you have $20 Million
worth of insurance with innumerable riders.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Feb 11, 2016 - 02:37am PT
P... listen up,
It is not just the insurance, & permits
 it is gas and travel and cash flow-
wear & tear, breakage, down time, and plain old obsolescence . . .
also having to protect yourself; secure the till, provide waivers,
pay an employee?

There are a lot of reasons as to why you don't see any, really, or have you?


Be careful what you wish for.... I thought you were younger,
and this carney rigg looks like a bit of an under cooked idea.....
It is freezing phukin' cold here. I'm so jello of y'all on the west coast
but id be a cook on a Cruise Ship with a drunken Captain ( aren't they all?)
before I'd spend a dime to have to run my own carnival ride.....
( which by the way is an ample description of my life anyway)

That came off harsh,,,,? and I did not mean it that way.............
justthemaid

climber
Jim Henson's Basement
Feb 11, 2016 - 06:51am PT
I'm actually not knocking this- there's just a lot of costs to consider and doing shows/carnivals/events for a living is more committing both in time, energy and money than most people think. I know - I speak from many years of experience.




pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2016 - 07:26am PT

Here are my daily PM's list.. brainstorming list.
It's heavy price on the insurance but Im more concerned with the cost of HOUSING these giant fiberglass figures. Im thinking an aircraft hanger. Could not allow fiberglass figures to sit outside and get weathered.

I can imagine taking the chalked holds off the wall throwing it in the dishwasher..
WBraun

climber
Feb 11, 2016 - 07:50am PT
Probably cheaper to just cover the thing with a good quality tarp?

Anyways good luck with your self made small business idea.

It's always cool to have your own business ...
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Feb 11, 2016 - 09:39am PT
And if they have two ounces of brains they're gonna wanna see that you have $20 Million
worth of insurance with innumerable riders.

Uh...yeah, insurance is an important consideration.


Here's an incentive to get people to pay for climbs: At the top of the route, they unclip a carabiner with an attached container, which includes a "prize." Everyone who makes it to the top gets a prize! The list of prizes would vary, depending on the venue/clientele.

As with any of these "everyone wins something" games, the prizes are heavily weighted in favor of not losing the farm. Many, many "Next Climb Free" prizes. Many gift certificates to local venue, in which the winner is likely to spend more money than they won, a random selection of outright half decent items, and a couple big ticket "carrot-danglers" for the ever optimistic dreamer.


While it is true that I would never have any inclination to operate a climbing wall, I like and support entrepreneurism.
johntp

Trad climber
socal
Feb 11, 2016 - 12:30pm PT
Why do you need the fiberglass figures?
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 11, 2016 - 07:23pm PT
Why do you need the fiberglass figures?



fiberglass figures can be made more durable( in theory) but provide a more Aesthetic appeal..
I just Imagine 3 or 4 of these things set up people would go nut's!


Happiegrrrl2 your awesome.. thank you for taking the time.
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