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Banquo
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Amerricka
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Jan 26, 2016 - 06:46pm PT
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Here is the same image I posted in the earlier thread but in color. I have the data files but do not have the software and knowledge to present it better. You can figure out the geography a little bit if you study it.
I propose the longest, remotest trip in California. Simply follow the light blue spine of the Sierra running up the map.
I put what files I have in a .zip folder. It's very big. 1.2 GB here:
http://dammerr.com/Dist_To_Roads/
I really don't know what all the files are.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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Jan 26, 2016 - 07:12pm PT
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This is real close to Franky's "most remote" spot - within a couple hundred yards - Milestone Basin
Tunemah Lake is above the confluence of the Disappearing Creek and Goddard Creek - the terminus of the Enchanted Gorge.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Jan 26, 2016 - 09:14pm PT
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I don't have any other maps and don't recall how I made that one. The data is in the files I gave a link to but it will take somebody with GIS software and knowledge to use it. A few years ago I did find some open source software and get it to work but have not kept up with it.
The USGS publication is about the best you can get:
https://www.fort.usgs.gov/sites/default/files/products/publications/21426/21426.pdf
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Outside the Asylum
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Jan 26, 2016 - 09:18pm PT
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Over here! Pick me! Pick me!
As though there weren't already enough of those dumb geocaches littering the landscape. No need to give them ideas.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2016 - 09:50pm PT
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I'm gonna put a flag with a rigister there, full of pictures of mighty hiker
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Jan 26, 2016 - 10:12pm PT
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still cant figure out the names of these 2 CHUNKS of stone any Guess?
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jan 26, 2016 - 10:53pm PT
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The Farallons are out there.
I don't know how I'd access them. Probably can't get there from here.
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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Jan 27, 2016 - 06:52am PT
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I don't know. since you can drive a boat to them it doesn't feel like a contender to me.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 07:46am PT
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I guess technically they win.
So now I have to try to walk there, car to car, in a day
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Jan 27, 2016 - 07:48am PT
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Santa Barbara Island is 38 miles off shore.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:28am PT
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With all this footin' and totin' going on does anyone want to take a shot at throwing Baja California into the mix?
Walk a mile in Father Serra's shoes.
San Ignacio to Santa Rosalia on the east coast is roughly 76km.
So how about starting at El Placer and heading southeast? That would be in the large punta below Isla Natividad.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Jan 27, 2016 - 08:36am PT
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Pretty sure San Nicolas would trump the Farallons by distance, but they have a military installation out there so it's not in the spirit of the wilds we are after.
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 10:35am PT
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But does San Nicholas have roads on it, Nut!?!?!?!?!?!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 27, 2016 - 10:38am PT
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Looks like Bob Burd walked almost right over the most remote (non-island) point in CA when he dayhiked Tunemah Peak.
It took him 20.5 hours and he's an animal. It'll be tough to do in a day even without going up to the peak.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Jan 27, 2016 - 12:33pm PT
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Chopper easy access to those Sierra locations.
Outside of rescue operations I don't think choppers are allowed in wilderness areas.
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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Jan 29, 2016 - 07:09pm PT
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Update:
I had a suspicion that Sequioa/Kings might have already done an analysis like we have been discussing. They have. you can see the larger document it is a part of here.
http://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_other/rmrs_2014_tricker_j001.pdf
It is an interesting document if you have the time to look at it. There is a part that is concerned with mapping travel time in the parks. They use slope and vegetation class, consider the difficulty of creek crossings, and don't allow travel on things that are too steep (unfortunately, i think they considered too steep to be 40 degrees. haha!!).
I couldn't find a place to download the actual data, so I put it over a basemap, and made it transparent so we could guess at what the most remote spots are. Here are the results.
Here are some zoom ins of the longest to get to areas.
I don't have the actual data, so ya'll will just have to look at the photos a guess which spot you think is the darkest blue.
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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Jan 29, 2016 - 07:14pm PT
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If you put any faith in their analysis, it looks to me like Devils Crags might be the most remote place in The Sierra, without the data it is hard to tell if it is more remote than Milestone Mountain/Plateau though.
Also, This is what happens to you if you move to South Dakota after spending a lot of time in the Sierra. You try to get your fix by looking at maps.
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seano
Mountain climber
none
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Jan 29, 2016 - 09:27pm PT
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My sense is that Picket Guard and the basin east of the Kaweahs are much harder to reach than Devil's Crags. When possible "easiest approaches" include a trip over Cleaver Col into Wallace Creek, and the classic combo of Glacier and Hands-and-Knees Passes, you know you're in for a world of hurt.
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franky
Trad climber
Black Hills, SD
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Jan 29, 2016 - 10:02pm PT
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I agree with you that Devils Crags doesn't seem that bad compared to the stuff further south. It could be an artifact due to their relatively low slope cut off for travel.
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