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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 13, 2015 - 12:33pm PT
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Am delving into family archives, thought I'd post these for those who were there! Would love help identifying people, and whether it was California or Telluride.....
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 12:36pm PT
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 12:41pm PT
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this just in
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Justin Ross from North Fork
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Dec 13, 2015 - 01:09pm PT
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Awesome pics, I'm 90% sure that it looks like Shuteye Ridge or somewhere in Southern Yosemite. 100% sure it's California.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 13, 2015 - 01:33pm PT
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Tamara- I can't help with your identification but we have lots of seasoned stalwarts around that can.
Do you have any sort of list of employees to help in this effort?
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 01:45pm PT
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a few yes, and it's not very important other than curiousity! Mainly hoped that anyone to whom these might be meaningful could see them ;)
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Dec 13, 2015 - 01:45pm PT
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This is great! Thanks Tamara.
Talk about a pack explosion...
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Dec 13, 2015 - 02:39pm PT
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Are you the "token rugrat?"
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 03:30pm PT
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indeed....
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rincon
climber
Coarsegold
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Dec 13, 2015 - 03:36pm PT
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Cool pics!
Wonder where that is...SoYo maybe?
Looks like fun times!
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oldtimer
climber
Concord,CA
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Dec 13, 2015 - 04:58pm PT
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i believe the guy in the second frame in the 2nd set by himself is Doug Weins who used to manage the Robbins shop in Fresno. These pictures were from a company outing in the shuteye area and the Balls.
Garry
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Dec 13, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
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Tamara, Thanks for sharing these with us. They are fantastic.
Seventh picture down looks like pictures I have seen of Doug Robbinson.
I know that Royal was keen on the Southern Yosemite. And told me to check it out on many an occasion.
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this just in
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Justin Ross from North Fork
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Dec 13, 2015 - 09:41pm PT
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Really cool to see these old pics, hopefully you find more and post them.
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 10:04pm PT
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Dec 13, 2015 - 10:08pm PT
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Keep em coming Tamara.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Dec 13, 2015 - 10:10pm PT
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Ahhh... Simpler times. Those one-inch tubular webbing swami-belt rigs were great. Cost so little and protected just fine.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 13, 2015 - 10:30pm PT
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Roger Breedlove may also have some images from that time too... maybe he'll find this thread.
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 10:34pm PT
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Dec 13, 2015 - 11:09pm PT
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Garry you are correct. That's a great pic of Doug "the piston" Weins!
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2015 - 11:14pm PT
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this just in
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Justin Ross from North Fork
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:37am PT
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Tamara, do you remember going to an area with a big quartz field, (thousands of quartz chunks) on Shuteye Ridge? I found this pin below in a crack in that area. I figured it was from Rockcraft.
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Peter Green
Mountain climber
Davis, CA
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Dec 14, 2015 - 08:26am PT
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Sure looks like a Lembert Water Crack in the last picture, and similar area granite in several pics. Wonderful post, wherever it is -- such great times,
and still are when folks bring their kids out to camp and crag!
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john bald
climber
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Dec 14, 2015 - 11:35am PT
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Tamara, will be nice to associate names to these faces.
My contribution is Sam Suguine on the far right in the black sweater.
We climbed new routes in the California Needles not long after this was taken. 1972
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Dec 14, 2015 - 05:46pm PT
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Photo Above:
Front row, Steve Roper (yep the legendary one), Neil Korbaron (Modesto Internist), Dick Erb, I wish I knew, Max Gammon (British Heart Surgeon)
Back Row, Barney Nielson (dentist and fun Guy), Fred S. (Reno Lawyer), Sam Saguini (One of the stronger climbing students).
All spellings are guessed.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:29pm PT
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spirit of the age
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Dec 14, 2015 - 06:38pm PT
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Spirit of the age?
Heck, I thought it was the stone age.
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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Dec 14, 2015 - 07:08pm PT
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Keeping SuperTopo real, don't stop. This is what it should be.... climbing related !!
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Yafer
Trad climber
Chatsworth, California
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Dec 14, 2015 - 08:46pm PT
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Awesome.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Dec 14, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
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Tamara! It's great to have you share those Rockcraft photos. Keep trying, since sometimes it takes a few days for the senior posters on ST to check in.
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2015 - 09:01pm PT
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found some definitive Telluride Rockcraft slides today, will upload them here tomorrow ;)
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rockanice
climber
new york
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Dec 15, 2015 - 06:50am PT
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E. L. Wolfinger (of course Sheridan )
Thanks for posting !
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Dec 15, 2015 - 01:49pm PT
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Nice memory Dick. I did a double take on seeing Roper.
Here is a group photo I have shown before.
It shows Liz, Royal and Tamara (center left); Dick and Dawn, Judy standing at right end; me and Chuck Pratt on either side of the lady in the red jacket in the back: junior guides.
Chris Vandiver is showing how to attach aid slings to a bolt placed on a big boulder in front of a large tree with a rock slope in the background. Dick is standing nearby, looking on--don't read too much into his hands-in-his-pockets nonchalance; he was paying attention. I am sitting on the ground, looking away, ignoring whatever Chris is saying. I recognize a few of the clients, but don't remember their names.
Climbing photos:
Queen's Throne.
This route had a wide smooth groove that had to be crossed. There was a faint dyke with one hard move. It was bolt protected. The crossing point is near the bottom of the picture. Nice day. Great, game clients.
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this just in
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Justin Ross from North Fork
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Dec 15, 2015 - 03:27pm PT
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So cool to see these photos, thanks.
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Paul Martzen
Trad climber
Fresno
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Dec 15, 2015 - 03:38pm PT
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Thanks for posting these, Tamara. I worked at the Fresno store in the 80's so these photos are a bit before my time. But if Doug Weins and Gary Pollard are in these photos, then I know some of the characters, even if I don't recognize them! Gary Pollard was around the store a lot and then mentored me on my first kayak trips on rivers. Thanks, Gary!
I never got to climb or boat with Doug Weins, yet his mentoring and encouragement were very, very important for me. I was constantly taking up his time, asking questions and getting suggestions from him. Doug is still my hero and my standard of how to treat people.
A tall dark haired fellow with a mustache and an orange or yellow shirt in some of the photos, shirtless in another, looks like it might be Gary Pheister.
Paul
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BooDawg
Social climber
Butterfly Town
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Dec 15, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
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In the first two pictures that were posted on 12/13 at 10:04 pm, the guy on the right looks like me (Ken Boche); I think I hand-painted those shorts. Since I grew my beard in 1969, this would have been sometime between '65 and '69. Camp 4.
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kenny morrell
Trad climber
danville,ca
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Dec 15, 2015 - 05:43pm PT
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In the picture from john bald, the man sitting in front of the tree with his left arm on left knee is kim grandfield. He is the owner of sunrise mountain sports in livermore calif.
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Dec 15, 2015 - 05:54pm PT
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I worked at Rockcraft for seven summers, an experience I am grateful for to this day. I was an instructor and guide and enjoyed that, but I was also like a graduate student or TA working with one of the great climbers of the world trying to soak up every bit of why Royal was such a good climber. At the heart of it was his deep love for climbing and his desire to plunge whole heartedly into his life's desire, but in a survivable way. Every session was different but the emphasis in addition to all the techniques seemed to be to show each person their own ability which was always greater than they knew. Most of the students left with more confidence and enthusiasm than when they arrived. Sometimes so much it was scary.
I didn't take many photos those days, but here are a few that I or Judy took.
I have my hammer for setting up the top ropes, as the years went by we used fewer and fewer pins. Royal was an early prponent of clean climbing in the US.
These two are Royal top rope freeing one of our practice aid lines on the East side of lower Dear John Buttress at the Leap. WE thought maybe it was an eleven but in those days no one had yet claimed to have established a climb of that grade.
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2015 - 06:28pm PT
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Dec 15, 2015 - 06:45pm PT
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Breedlove, second from the right....
Hey Roger, time to grow that righteous 'fro again!
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Dec 15, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
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To the left of Roger Breedlove in the above pic may be George Meyers, I will never forget meeting him. We were between sessions down in Modesto stocking up. The students are about to arrive and we were waiting for Doug Robinson, one of the guides, to get back down from the Valley. The doorbell rings and here is some long haired hippy freak standing there saying that Doug had injured his thumb on the Royal Arches and he was the replacement. Royal who was picky about his guides was a bit taken aback but had no choice but to accept him as it was to late to do otherwise, but at the end of the week said that Doug had shown extremely good judgement in his choice.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Dec 15, 2015 - 07:45pm PT
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Amazing pics!
Thanks Tamara.
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 15, 2015 - 08:21pm PT
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Dec 15, 2015 - 09:59pm PT
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Dick at the end of the previous page you are demonstrating my favorite belay stance.
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 16, 2015 - 11:46am PT
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Dick, where were the above shots taken? The rock is pretty unusual looking.... trees look like the Sierra but wondering where?
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Dec 16, 2015 - 12:04pm PT
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Funny story about Doug not showing because of an injury.
Doug and I have been great friends for my entire adult life, but I gotta tell ya, he not only has a hard time showing up on time, he can show up days or weeks late.
I don't think that I've ever seen him wearing a watch. We used to kid him about this, but it was true.
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Dec 16, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
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Tamara, the top two photos were taken near Wrights Lake just north of highway 50 a little ways east of Lovers Leap. The bottom two are on Dear John Buttress the crag adjacent to Lovers Leap on the east.
Edit; I thought you were referring to the photos I submitted. Of the ones you submitted I will concur with Rick and H, and the bottom one is near shuteye or the balls.
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Dec 16, 2015 - 12:15pm PT
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Hi Tamara.
On this page the top picture looks like 90 f00t wall in Emerald Bay Tahoe, 2nd photo looks like Lovers leap (hwy 80 in the middle right and the dikes give it away), don't know about the 3rd, but the last looks like Roaches by Pinecrest. He introduced me to you there at an AAC annual event.
Great shots. Love em. Keep them coming!
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Dec 16, 2015 - 05:07pm PT
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Hwy 50 for Leap
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Dec 16, 2015 - 05:40pm PT
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Sorry to interject, but the topmost photo is of the Ninety Foot Wall in Eagle Creek Canyon above Tahoe's Emerald Bay. The second photo is of Dear John Buttress-perhaps what later became Stone Cold Crazy 5.12c.
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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Dec 16, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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Thanks to Labrat; right hwy 50. And to Rick Lovers Leap for narrowing it down even farther
Carry on.
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Fuzzywuzzy
climber
suspendedhappynation
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Dec 16, 2015 - 11:06pm PT
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Dick
Could the B&W of the climber demoing the hip belay be Bill Bonebrake
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Dec 16, 2015 - 11:16pm PT
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Great stuff Tamara, nice work!
Roger, is that one of the practice aid ladder/bolt shot at Boulder Garden Slab area in Southern Yosemite, in other words, the boulders out in front of the slab?
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Dick Erb
climber
June Lake, CA
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Dec 17, 2015 - 07:06am PT
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Fuzzy, That was me belaying. Bill didn't work at Rockcraft, to my knowledge.
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Nate D
climber
San Francisco
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Dec 17, 2015 - 11:17am PT
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Munge, and Roger,
The second pic Roger posted is most definitely at the base of Boulder Garden Slab at the Balls.
Tamara!
This is awesome - sharing these photos! I begged Roger and Dick to share some pics from the Rockcraft days a handful of years ago, but your post has worked wonders in this regard!
Really neat to see shots of activity in the Southern Yosemite area back then. Many look like up atop Shuteye Ridge - Queens Throne area (like many of Rogers) - but local experts can verify exactly where on some of yours.
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Nate D
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San Francisco
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Dec 17, 2015 - 11:22am PT
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The b/w group shot john bald posted from Advanced Rockcraft is at the base of Hawk Dome next to Fresno Dome.
I love it's caption: "The Great Southern Sierra Hinterlands Expedition, 1973", taken by Royal.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Dec 31, 2015 - 09:06am PT
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Thanks for posting these, really nice to see.
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2017 - 12:49am PT
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I've come across a few more... but in return i'm looking for some stories about those particular days ;)
Any little tidbits, however un PC (i doubt any ARE PC), are much appreciated.
Anything unfit for public just email me at tamara@postpro.net
;)
Photos to follow.....
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Tamara Robbins
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 3, 2017 - 12:57am PT
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also, Dick and Roger, could you send me your contact info? much appreciated. And to the question of the Auto-bio, the answer is no. Perhaps it will be continued in an unorthodox fashion (in utter alignment with Dad's spirit).... but not in the format seen to date.
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Hi Tamara,
Regarding your request for contact info, I sent you an email on the SuperTopo email link, but I have heard it does not always work--no experience. If you did not receive it, please send me a message on my Facebook page or LinkedIn.
All the best to Royal and Liz and you,
Roger
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Thank you for sharing your priceless images! What an incredible glimpse back in US rock climbing time . . . there is absolute authenticity emanating from the people captured in these films.
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