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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 25, 2015 - 10:13pm PT
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[Click to View YouTube Video]
I'm relieved to finally learn the safe way to lead - with a gopro on my head and my girlfriend in tow on a lone bolt.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Nov 25, 2015 - 10:33pm PT
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Well, if I wasn't a mormon before, I am now.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Nov 25, 2015 - 10:33pm PT
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Considering a stint with the LDS Greg? ;)
Either way, have a great tryptophan day!!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Nov 26, 2015 - 12:00am PT
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Nov 26, 2015 - 12:29am PT
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"Climbing as a metaphor for life." Who knew!
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Nov 26, 2015 - 06:13am PT
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Jimmy, leave the gear and go soloing...
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Nov 26, 2015 - 06:53am PT
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A new motto: God is my belayer!
Wynn and I were camping next to you guys in J Tree 2 weeks ago. I would have never suspected you had religious tendencies.
There was a good bumper sticker on a vehicle in a popular dog walking area near my home: Dog is my Copilot.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 26, 2015 - 07:01am PT
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A new motto: God is my belayer!
I think that means you're still solo
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Nov 26, 2015 - 08:56am PT
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Is one bolt still safe with five wives in tow?
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grover
climber
Castlegar BC
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Nov 26, 2015 - 09:10am PT
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Only if they're your first cousins.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 26, 2015 - 09:19am PT
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Of course that was an LDS video. Makes perfect sense.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 26, 2015 - 09:42am PT
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Did that guy really free solo that thing?
Some cool camera work?
Probably an UAV (drone) ....
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Nov 26, 2015 - 09:50am PT
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Soloing the tombstone 5.13+? I don't think so. That's the same guy from those rope jump videos.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 26, 2015 - 10:21am PT
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Did that guy really free solo that thing?
Werner... you've worked on movie sets.
C'mon man....
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Nov 26, 2015 - 10:30am PT
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Did that guy really free solo that thing?
Did Keanu Reeves really shred waves in Point Break?
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Bushman
Social climber
Elk Grove, California
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Nov 26, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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IMO if you have climbed seriously for any length of time you can easily see that the audaciousness ascribed to free soloing pales compared to the presumptuous assumption that trusting our survival to our own experience and abilities is somehow reckless and irresponsible compared to placing our 'faith' in something we cannot see in the hope that we will be assured a place in an eternal hierarchy of the holy in a mythical hereafter.
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Nov 26, 2015 - 11:28am PT
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Nicely said Bushman!
I'll add this passage I posted on another thread because it links life and climbing so well.
Not to say religious beliefs don't work for some...
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Nov 26, 2015 - 11:39am PT
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I wonder if the climber that was free soloing in the video had to sign an Non-disclosure agreement that prohibits him from saying that he free solos in real life, or that free soloing isn't really an issue on rock.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Nov 26, 2015 - 02:01pm PT
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far more entertaining than I had expected
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overwatch
climber
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Nov 26, 2015 - 04:06pm PT
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Talk about low expectations
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TWP
Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
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Nov 26, 2015 - 05:40pm PT
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JIM:
You underestimate the Mormon promises for the hereafter.
Each Mormon -after first ascending to heaven and spending some indeterminate time ripening in wisdom while sitting beside Jesus and God himself - doesn't just get to be the God of their own planet.
No, that's chicken feed.
They get to be God of their own UNIVERSE.
Which brings to mind this question as a logical sequela: How many Gods exist in the Mormon mega-universe? Talk about polytheism! But real Mormons don't ask such questions; they just believe.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Nov 27, 2015 - 07:00am PT
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So Jesus would climb the north chimney ( mostly ) with a cute blonde, rather than scramble around on the approach to one of the tombstones, solo.
Got it!
Is the drone the eye of the imaginary friend?
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Nov 27, 2015 - 07:39am PT
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Calling Jennie...
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 27, 2015 - 07:47am PT
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Weird video msg...
Love the free solo dude..
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BrassNuts
Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
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Nov 27, 2015 - 08:37am PT
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Wow, that was frikkin bizarre! Thanks for the entertainment and insight, I'm a new man now...
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Nov 27, 2015 - 10:15am PT
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I'm disappointed that they were not trading leads. Why ? That is the question....
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Nov 27, 2015 - 01:43pm PT
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That was a fairly decent description of climbing for a non-climber.
I never felt the exaltation of God when soloing, though, and man did I love to solo.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 1, 2015 - 08:57pm PT
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Mormons are whey better at making climbing movies than Bear Gryllis.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Man, that thunder noise when grabbing a hold is pretty cool. Wish I could do that.
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not applicable
Trad climber
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I now understand why Alex Honnold is an atheist.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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1:24-1:25 in the video, you can see artifacts of the rope that were edited out when he falls.
"His laws are absolutely secure anchors of protection that dispel fear, and assure success, in an otherwise dangerous world. True and enduring happiness, with the accompanying strength, courage, and capacity to overcome the greatest difficulties, will come as you center your life in Jesus Christ. Obedience to His teaching provides a secure ascent in the charity of life. The secure anchors of his laws will assure safety and success as you scale the challenges you will face. Yours will be a life of peace and happiness...."
These are all great goals, and I can't fault the church for promoting these values. Every person who I have personally known to be a Mormon has been a fine example of humanity.
What I don't understand is why any religion needs to create a set of other practices and beliefs bundled along with these things, to create an exclusive community and foster a sense of belonging to that community at the expense of their sense of belonging to the broader set of humanity who do not follow the same doctrine. Those things seem to be the artifacts of human vices bound up in the structure of organized religion, at conflict with the central tenets and social purpose of the religion.
I would like to hear from folks who are close followers of specific religions to comment on this. Why mix noble goals with exclusionary practices that will obviously lead to conflict with non-believers? Why must we be uniform to share a sense of humanity and community?
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H
Mountain climber
there and back again
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I'd take the LDS film over the bullshirt film Bear is in any day.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Religion is a feel good cop out, face it.....
your prayers don't effect outcomes,
you're going to die and you won't see St. Peter, so don't worry about making a good impression,
you don't need to have faith in a personal god to behave in a morally acceptable way.....tons of evidence to the contrary,
But, then again, evidence means little to people with faith.
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John M
climber
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I would like to hear from folks who are close followers of specific religions to comment on this. Why mix noble goals with exclusionary practices that will obviously lead to conflict with non-believers? Why must we be uniform to share a sense of humanity and community?
I probably don't quite fit your description, but do believe in God and follow a practice. So I believe that I could answer your question. I would answer it by asking you a question. Is there an action that would cause you to not accept another person into your community? I'm sure that you can see where this is going. If you would exclude someone, then why do you believe that religious people, people who believe in God, should automatically accept all people, and thus all behavior?
One of the worst teachings to come out in modern times is the concept of unconditional love, as though God should love/accept everything. This is a patently false teaching. God does not accept evil. Evil is a creation of humans. God does love everyone, but his/her love includes discipline/consequences.
But people don't want discipline. They want to be able to do whatever they want to with no consequences, hence the creation of unconditional love, which is a human consciousness creation, and not a God consciousness creation.
The main problem with religion is that it is made up of people. People with all of their faults. What people ignore is that religion is not God.
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