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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 19, 2015 - 07:16pm PT
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Yay ..about time.. hope we do the same over here.
I never understood how you hosers let that other party run anything.. it just wasn't very....Canadian.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:19pm PT
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Trudeau in a close one....fingers crossed.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:19pm PT
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ignorance is so yesterday.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:20pm PT
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so, Canada is having its very own election, eh? that's presh.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:26pm PT
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Hopefully its the end of almost a decade of embarrassment to be "Canadian".
Lots of work is needed to repair the damage done by the previous dictator.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:43pm PT
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Good luck to you Canada. You've been served very badly the past 10 years.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
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Yay for Canada. Yay for sanity and reason.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:52pm PT
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Let the downhill slide begin.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:55pm PT
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^ begin?
You obviously haven't been paying attention.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 19, 2015 - 07:56pm PT
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Hey, look....the 'Mikey' of politics is here!
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 19, 2015 - 08:05pm PT
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congrats to Canada. This Harper POS would have served well in the shrub nightmare.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 19, 2015 - 08:29pm PT
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Whoa Tami....even the Scots blinked in the end. It's your cross to bear.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Oct 19, 2015 - 08:30pm PT
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Kudos to Canada, yet again.
So------can you annex the Northwest (including Idontno) now?
I am so-----wanting affordable healthcare! (and somewhat more sane politics).
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 19, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
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My greatest hope is that Justin Trudeau lifts the middle finger to your gov't now.
pretty sure you won't hope that once we elect #feelthebern? Pretty please?
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Oct 19, 2015 - 09:55pm PT
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Oct 19, 2015 - 10:37pm PT
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We finally ditched that contemptible toad of a PM of ours. Canada is now a better nation to live in.
True statesmen congratulate the victors when they are defeated - Harper just silently oozed back into the bog he crawled from, and I hope the door hit him on the ass when he departed, so to speak.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Oct 20, 2015 - 12:05am PT
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Yea from Whatcom County, the unrepresented riding to the south!
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Oct 20, 2015 - 02:04am PT
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Pay attention.
The colonoscopy was performed on the moose, not by him.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Oct 20, 2015 - 02:59am PT
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Hey Tami - I haven't the slightest illusion about Justin - let's remember that he booted ALL of the Liberals out of the Senate, yet these horrible Senators had the integrity to oppose Trudeau's support for Bill C-51.
Justin's father was arguably the best PM we ever had, but Justin lacks even a single crumb of his wisdom or integrity. Let's remember that Canada has one of the lowest corporate tax rates on the planet, and Justin seemed to figure that this wasn't worthy of mention during the campaign. That's merely for starters.
I celebrate his victory for the single reason that Stevie Harper has been rejected by a clear majority of Canadians, and relegated to the dustbin of history as a four time loser on the political stage who dishonoured our nation by staining the Canadian flag with a neo-con agenda that at no time was EVER supported by the votes of Canadians.
I'm not happy that Trudeau got elected - he's just another "Liberal" PM. I, however, am doing hand-springs at the news of our newly elected PM simply because our mean-spirited shithead and erstwhile Prime Minister actually got clear feedback about what Canadians actually felt about him, so much so that they were desperate enough to still elect an idiot like Trudeau.
Canada is a better place for only one reason from this election: Harper now oozes back into the evil, festering shadows that created him, so at least we have an atom of hope, namely that Justin isn't merely a glossier version of the same shitheads who are ruining planet Earth for average human beings. I'd be delighted to discover that I am mistaken, and will not hesitate to acknowledge any unfair assessment of our new Prime Minister, but I feel that Justin is merely another more presentable robot apologist for the big money corporate rape of our planet.
Tami, keep up the struggle. I consider you a leader on the path to a better tomorrow.
xo
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Oct 20, 2015 - 09:59am PT
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yaaay for us
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 20, 2015 - 11:18am PT
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I'm gonna retire to my favorite chair and watch what transpires...
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 20, 2015 - 11:20am PT
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My greatest hope is that Justin Trudeau lifts the middle finger to your gov't now.
Wow, thanks neighbor.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 20, 2015 - 01:54pm PT
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I get it Tami, I was just kidding!!
It ain't easy being 'Murica, but we try, and having you for our crazy uncle in the attic is just perfect.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 20, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
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What--did our northernmost state get a new governor or something?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 20, 2015 - 02:04pm PT
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No....a new American Ambassador, one that meshes better philosophically with Obama and, presumably, Hillary then Harper did
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Oct 20, 2015 - 02:36pm PT
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From Guns'n'Roses to John Denver "West Alberta, mountain mama, take me home" Damn, that's awful. And you guys make fun of the states!
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Oct 20, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
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No offense my Canadian friends. But this government will be no different then the Bush to Obama fake out. All talk and promises, but the same behind the scenes pre-scripted corporate corruption of the Harper administration will continue, as the shadow government is in control, same one that runs the US. You have already been conscripted, you just don't know it yet.
Not paranoia, just fact. But go ahead and feel all patriotic and stuff while the vaseline is being applied..
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Oct 20, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
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Love,
scrubbing bubbles
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 20, 2015 - 03:31pm PT
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Hillary's gonna give orders from inside the slammer? TOTALLY GANGSTA!
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 20, 2015 - 03:43pm PT
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The Conservative government was like a diaper that needed changing.
Its occupant-in-chief is now free to accept a sinecure from one of the energy corporations for which he has worked so effectively.
And we are beginning with a new diaper - which undoubtedly will become aromatic to some degree - but at least it starts out fairly clean.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Oct 20, 2015 - 07:13pm PT
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What--did our northernmost state get a new governor or something?
maybe. who cares?
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 21, 2015 - 09:01am PT
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Sounds like you'd be the perfect Secretary of State for President Donald Trump.
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Saugy
Mountain climber
BC
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Oct 21, 2015 - 01:05pm PT
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Our new PM back in 2001 being interviewed by Crucial Mike and Johnny Thrash on a Whistler chairlift :):)
Looks like he's been on the "legalize it" program for some time now
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Oct 21, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
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ms55401 - 35 million Canadians care, and while I have very low expectations for Trudeau, he sure beats that dung beetle of a PM he replaced. As a nation, we mostly rejoice.
Now it's time for the citizens of the United States to un-ass themselves and for a change elect a President who has a sincere interest in repairing U.S. relations abroad while at the same time improving the quality of life for average citizens instead of continuing to shovel taxpayer dollars into the vaults of Wall Street oligarchs:./
I'm not holding my breath - Donald Trump and most of his clones from both parties should have been tarred, feathered and horse-whipped from the political arena the instant they announced their candidacy for the Presidency. Are you aware, ms55401, that the POTUS is also the ONLY person on Earth who can single-handedly destroy the entire human race from the comfort of U.S. One? Someone who isn't a drooling lunatic running your great nation would make the rest of us human beings sleep just a little bit better at night.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Oct 21, 2015 - 06:40pm PT
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What's Trudeau gonna do about your vitamin D deficiencies?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:04pm PT
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The a Sun isn't going to get fired like Reagan did to flight controllers?
Doesn't Canada lay him off for the winter anyway?
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MH2
Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:30pm PT
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This was a long election by Canadian standards. It was also unusual for the level of interest shown by voters and for being influenced by events and issues which the political machines did not see coming or have time to prepare slick responses to. One of those issues was immigration and treatment of refugees.
I don't often hear the hard-bitten street folk having much conversation beyond, "Keep yer fukkin' bike off the sidewalk!" as I walk past the recycling centre where they bring empties on my way to the climbing gym. This Sunday, the day before the election, was unusual:
"Remember, they come from cultures far older than ours so they are much better than we are at stealing stuff."
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
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Tami, Tami, Tami....equating Obama with the likes of Harper. There are political realities....the Repugnant Party in Estados Unidos fought Obama tooth and nail (the racial card was unstated but fully evident) and he still accomplished a lot. History will be kind to him.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Oct 21, 2015 - 07:57pm PT
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I read somewhere that Harper was on TV dropping his young son off at school and he shook his hand...no hug from Dad.
Sounds kinda Nixonesque
Trudeau: young, handsome, personable, beautiful family.
Sounds like it was like that election of long ago in Estados Unidos.
Maybe Trudeau can take in some of those Middle East refugees. Europe needs help and doesn't have nearly as much territory.
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nah000
climber
no/w/here
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Oct 21, 2015 - 11:17pm PT
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the problem with the harper majority of the last four years wasn't that it was harper...
it was that it was a majority.
harper's 2011 54% of seats was derived from a popular vote of 39.6% of 61.1% voter turnout.
this means his majority power was derived from 24.2% of the people.
and no the issue was not, is not and will not be voter turnout.
it was, is and will continue to be representation based on a system of first past the post.
trudeau promised as part of his platform that he would reform fptp within 18 mos.
i don't give a sh#t whether it takes him 18 mos or not, as long as he gets it [meaningfully!] done before the next election. and i frankly don't care whether he keeps any of his other promises as long as he keeps this one.
because the intrinsic problem with voting in this country is that we have to vote the bums out every 10 or so years. and the reason this happens is that "the bums" are given more power than they are actually warranted, it goes to their heads, and then "we" the inevitable majority who didn't vote for them get annoyed and vote them out.
and then rinse, wash and repeat ad infinitum.
the sooner we get rid of fptp the sooner future despots like harper will be forced to deal with actual governance based on conversation and compromise.
everything else trudeau and co have proposed is, as someone upthread so eloquently put it, just a fresh tube of lube.
if trudeau is to be more than "new boss: same as the old boss", this is the only issue that i'm aware of his proposing that gets to the heart of the cyclical mismanagement and misrepresentation that we have seen at least in all of the years i have been alive.
while i'm eternally optimistic and hope he follows through, i'm also old enough that i won't be holding my breath.
especially now that he is the one who just won 54% of the seats based on a popular vote of 39.5% of 68.5% voter turnout.
huh. funny how those numbers seem to ring a bell...
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Oct 22, 2015 - 02:10am PT
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^^
Well, it's working in Oregon and California,, Colorado, too.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Oct 22, 2015 - 05:57pm PT
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And Harper would have been kicked out on his sociopathic ass the first time he got into power if he hadn't been saved from political obscurity by the Liberal refusal to turf out his minority government in a non-confidence motion in Parliament.
Trudeau seems to be an improvement to Harper - mind you, even a sewer rat would look pretty good in comparison to Stevie boy. I would be delighted to discover that I am completely mistaken about our mew PM, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Oct 22, 2015 - 06:56pm PT
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So, can I come back now?
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 22, 2015 - 07:24pm PT
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I hope Justin remembers that he owes his majority to strategic voting - people so desperate to get rid of Harper that they held their nose, changed their vote from NDP or Green to Liberal. I saw one person in tears about having to do that.
Nah000 is right - if JT follows through and dumps the first past the post system, we have half a chance of getting a representative government next time.
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Plaidman
Trad climber
South Slope of Mt. Tabor, Portland, Oregon, USA
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Oct 23, 2015 - 10:02pm PT
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It's Pete on Plaids phone.
We have a new PM?? O'Really?
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WyoRockMan
climber
Grizzlyville, WY
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Oct 17, 2018 - 04:15pm PT
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O Cannabis,
Our best and favorite high
Through ganja love, Canucks are ready to fly
With wasted heads, we see thee rise,
The True North stoned and free
From far and wide,
O Cannabis,we grow our weed for thee!
Jah keep our land glorious and free!
O Cannabis,we grow our weed for thee!
O Cannabis,we grow our weed for thee!
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Oct 17, 2018 - 05:22pm PT
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We care about the environment? Good joke as we know we don't.
We are better than the Russians though
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Oct 17, 2018 - 05:32pm PT
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I don't partake, but good for them. Decriminalize all drugs everywhere. End the failed war on drugs and invest half those billions saved in education and programs to get those who want to get clean a chance.
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trailridge127
Trad climber
Loveland, CO
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Oct 17, 2018 - 06:25pm PT
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I am all for legalized pot but a whole thread praising Canada seems a little much. It is still Canada after all
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Oct 17, 2018 - 06:32pm PT
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Only the last five posts are regarding legalization, not the whole thread.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 17, 2018 - 06:47pm PT
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The growing body of medical evidence as to the adverse effects of pot would indicate this event does not merit the unbridled joy extant.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Oct 17, 2018 - 07:07pm PT
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I half expected the office to clear out at 4:20 today but it didn't happen
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Oct 18, 2018 - 06:59am PT
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Hah. Cosmic wins the internet! Get ultra safe today, for all of us, and join Canada in cannabis solidarity.
BAd
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 18, 2018 - 07:22am PT
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I'm pretty safe right now.
Cheers to our fellow North Americans, dudes!
However, the Feds want everyone up there to know it's still against federal law to bring ganja into our fair country from your fair country.
Quote:
"a Canadian citizen working in or facilitating the proliferation of the legal marijuana industry in Canada, coming to the United States for reasons unrelated to the marijuana industry will generally be admissible to the United States.”
“However, if a traveler is found to be coming to the United States for reasons related to the marijuana industry, they may be deemed inadmissible,”
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/trump-administration-has-calm-response-to-canadian-marijuana-legalization/
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Oct 18, 2018 - 07:48am PT
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Phillip Morris of Canada will be able to dig some pretty impressive tunnels under the border.
The absurdity of laws regulating the supply side of a demand problem.
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couchmaster
climber
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Oct 18, 2018 - 09:32am PT
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Tami deleted all of her posts on this thread and has disappeared. We all need to start treating each other better. Warm regards to all:
Damn.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Oct 18, 2018 - 09:43am PT
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Yo Avery!
Nice to "hear" from you.
Hope all is well.
Cheers from a misplaced Yank.
edit:
:-)
dude?
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Don Paul
Social climber
Washington DC
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Oct 18, 2018 - 09:51am PT
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This is going to seriously cut into the Colorado economy. ☹️ Otherwise glad to see the Canadians chilling out.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 19, 2018 - 07:49pm PT
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Legalization triggered the need for limericks:
When I first got some legalized pot
I though I could party a lot
But the high CBD
And the low THC
Almost put me to sleep on the spot.
And conversely -
When I first tried some medical weed
relaxation and sleep was my need
But the high THC
And the low CBD
Made me think I was tripping on speed.
Haven't figured out how to rhyme sativa, indica or hybrid yet, but I'm working on it.
W.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Oct 20, 2018 - 04:47pm PT
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Nothing seems to have changed much up here.
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AP
Trad climber
Calgary
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Oct 20, 2018 - 07:49pm PT
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Not really it will hurt Ricky's business
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Oct 21, 2018 - 02:51pm PT
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Oct 21, 2018 - 06:30pm PT
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Jim Brennan:
Oct 19, 2015 - 07:47pm PT
IT'S GREAT TO HAVE RID OURSELVES OF STEVEN HARPER ... I missed this thread when it was started 3 years ago.
In the last 3 (4?) provincials elections Liberals were voted out.
Most likely in 2019 federal Liberals will also be out.
Canadians are tired of Trudeau's antics and his promotion of progressives' agenda at the expense of Canadians.
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