Boehner Gone!!

(2015-09-25) — House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) will reportedly resign at the end of October to spend more time with his money.

Sources close to the Republican leader said the hectic schedule of a House Speaker has made Boehner and his money feel like they’re “two ships that pass in the night,” without enough time to “linger together and nurture each other, go fishing.”

“Speaker Boehner has certainly been surrounded by other people’s money, coming and going, but it’s not the same,” an unnamed Congressional aide said. “Sometimes a man needs to say ‘Stop the world, I want to get off,’ and just hold my money, and caress it, and let the bond grow.”

Republican President Dwight Eisenhower’s idea of a significant marginal rate cut was to push the top rate down to 91 percent from 92 percent. Corporate taxes hit 50 percent. Jobs proliferated, wages rose, and the economy prospered.

the Government Shutdown

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Republican President Dwight Eisenhower’s idea of a significant marginal rate cut was to push the top rate down to 91 percent from 92 percent. Corporate taxes hit 50 percent. Jobs proliferated, wages rose, and the economy prospered.

That may be true on paper, but do you really believe that wealthy individuals in the 50's just paid 91% without first hiring an accountant to help setup tax hedges, and to fill out all the deductions, and find all the loopholes?

House Speaker John Boehner is well known for getting a little weepy in public. So nobody really thought twice when the devout Catholic—who had himself orchestrated the Pope's speech to Congress—started blubbering during the Holy Father's appearance.

Jobs proliferated, wages rose, and the economy prospered.

Does this imply high taxes caused prosperity?

Trump, Carson and now a full tea party takeover of the House...this is a gift to Democrats that just keeps on giving. Hillary should order the wallpaper for the Oval Office.

In response, White House press secretary Ari Fleischer outlined the details of the damage, most of which was in the Eisenhower Execitive Office Building adjacent to the White House. On June 3, 2001 The Washington Post quoted Fleischer as saying that the damage included the removal of the letter “W” from 100 computer keyboards, five missing brass nameplates with the presidential seal on them, 75 telephones with cover plates missing or apparently intentionally plugged into the wrong wall outlets, six fax machines relocated in the same way, ten cut phone lines, two historic door knobs missing, overturned desks and furniture in about 20 percent of the offices, obscene graffiti in six offices, and eight 14-foot loads of usable office supplies recovered from the trash. According to Fleischer, there was one incident in the White House itself, a photocopy machine that had copies of naked people hidden in the paper tray so they would come out from time to time with other copies.

Sep 25, 2015 - 03:55pm PT
LOL! You gripe and moan about government and what they should be doing FOR you, etc., more than anyone.

I don't want the government to DO anything. The less they DO the better. Government shutdowns are music to my ears.

JFK would be disgusted with you.

...fight Obama on his radical agenda...

The Obama admin spent $500 million giving "aid" to the "rebels" to destabilize Syria. Now the Obama admin says they will take in 180,000 refugee's into the US from a conflict the US has supported.

The US has been behind the chaos from day one in Syria.

I thought people of any political affiliation had learned by now toppling stable dictators in the middles east was a poor idea.

#7 He's from Bakersfield, California.

Bakersfield is basically West Texas, but it's just outside Los Angeles by some accident of geography.

Jody wrote:
Government shutdowns are music to my ears.

As most problem solvers have observed, sometimes the best approach to a problem is to do nothing.

In the world of government, a "cut" is really just a smaller increase, ain't it?

28.6 Vets are dying daily because of the Gov't Monster that Craig Fry and many others here adore so much.

It couldn't possibly be because most were cast into wars we should never have been involved in by men who didn't care about the men they sent into harms way.

V I E T N A M W A R S T A T I S T I C S

Wounded: 303,704

Severely disabled: 75,000-----23,214 100% Disabled; 5,283 Lost limb; 1,081 Sustained multiple amputations.

Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WW II and 70% higher than Korea. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WW II.

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 26, 2015 - 07:20am PT
"On this day in 1940, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signs the Selective Service and Training Act, which requires all male citizens between the ages of 26 and 35 to register for the military draft, beginning on October 16."

Uh Chief, maybe that's because more soldiers lived with worse wounds because of, say helicopter evacuation and better/quicker medical care? So maybe, just maybe, more soldiers survived graver wounds in Vietnam than in WW2?

A protected class with better virtues than the ordinary citizen?

Crankster posted:
Everything sucks and you can't convince me otherwise!

Hard to argue that that is beneficial for anyone other than those who benefit from cheap labor, low wages, and increased job competition.

Survival wrote:
That's why all the screaming about how bad things are, and liberals "destroying America" are so disturbing to me.

I would say that you are the racist. You only voted for Obama because he is a black man and you just wanted to show everyone how cool and hip and open minded you are.

the only way for people to extinguish racism in their own souls is to become experts at identifying racism in others.

You can't handle it that not all people and not all republicans are racists or bigots.

May 18, 2001 the General Accounting Office issued a three-page letter that said that it was unable confirm the damage largely to a lack of records from the White House. The letter also said that the condition of the White House offices was “…consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy.”

There was a companion story that Air Force One had been the victim of the outgoing Clintons and that numerous items from aboard the plane had been pilfered. President Bush himself told reporters aboard Air Force one on February 12, 2001, that the report was not true. According to Salon Washington correspondent Jake Tipper, Bush brought up the subject because the chief steward aboard Air Force One told him the allegations were false.

The Obama admin spent $500 million giving "aid" to the "rebels" to destabilize Syria. Now the Obama admin says they will take in 180,000 refugee's into the US from a conflict the US has supported.

I would say that you are the racist. You only voted for Obama because he is a black man and you just wanted to show everyone how cool and hip and open minded you are.

This is precisely what needs to be done to ALL of Craig Fry's precious growing zombie nation bureaucratic gov't immediately...

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or

Whoever, with intent to cause the overthrow or destruction of any such government, prints, publishes, edits, issues, circulates, sells, distributes, or publicly displays any written or printed matter advocating, advising, or teaching the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying any government in the United States by force or violence, or attempts to do so; or

Whoever organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons who teach, advocate, or encourage the overthrow or destruction of any such government by force or violence; or becomes or is a member of, or affiliates with, any such society, group, or assembly of persons, knowing the purposes thereof—

Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both, and shall be ineligible for employment by the United States or any department or agency thereof, for the five years next following his conviction.

Gary..The Chief did mention that he got screwed out of promised benefits in 1993...rj

Baloney. I have no problem understanding why a black person could be a republican,

I dont have a side. I recognize that politics is just staged theater to distract the public while the rich profit from military sales in conflicts against enemies the US creates.

Todd Eastman wrote:
So soldiers and sailors are special citizens?
A protected class with better virtues than the ordinary citizen?

Lefties rejoicing the departure of Boehner?

Our side wins every argument when the gloves come off.

Boehner is the republican model lefties should rally around. He compromises to the left and is in place for the illusion of opposition.

WOMEN elected Barack Obama...twice. THANKS ;)

Married women went Republican both times.

Married women went Republican both times.

The New York Times editorial board mused: “It felt at times as if the speakers were no longer living in a fact-based world.” But the lies are not random. They tell followers that America has fallen apart because enemies— minorities, women and liberals– have poisoned the government. Only a Movement Conservative leader can purge the nation of that poison and return America to its former greatness. Donald Trump, who currently commands a significant lead, is the salesman who puts it most clearly. He tells his followers that “the world is a mess.” He promises to work outside the old order and replace it with something new and wonderful. He tells them a story in which Christianity is under siege, President Obama is a foreigner, and that immigrants—who actually commit crimes at lower rates than native-born Americans– are criminals. He refused to contradict a follower who announced that Muslims are a problem that we must “get rid of.” And he promises to “Make America Great Again.”

But Trump is not an outlier. Jeb! says that black people vote for Democrats to get “free stuff.” Mike Huckabee insists that the United States is criminalizing Christianity. Bobby Jindal promises to “fire” Congress. Ted Cruz hints that President Obama is a Muslim and warns that no Muslim should be president. All of the candidates demonize undocumented immigrants.

And Carly Fiorina makes the outrageous claim, on national television, that political opponents murder babies to harvest and sell their brains. Think about that.

The fantasy world of Movement Conservatives is no longer fringe talk. The leading candidates for the Republican presidential nomination embrace it. They are playing to a chorus of true believers, and they are preaching what that choir wants to hear. They are following the same pattern Eric Hoffer identified as the path to authoritarianism. Last week, 43 percent of Republicans polled said they could imagine a scenario in which they would back a military coup. This week, Movement Conservatives in Congress knocked off a conservative speaker because he refused to sacrifice the American government to their demands.

We should be very frightened indeed. If we are not careful, John Boehner’s will not be the only head on the block.

It's bizarre that in the past I really disliked Boehner for his obstruction tactics against the left and now, with the current batch of GOP candidates, I am left thinking that America has lost one of the good ones in politics. WTF does that say about the GOP? It's like crazy town over there.

John Boehner lashed out at "false prophets" in the right's ranks, blaming them for political strategies that "never had a chance" even while taking the government into fiscal crises.

"Absolutely, they're not realistic," the retiring House speaker said of hard-line conservatives and outside groups in a Sunday interview on CBS' "Face the Nation."

He pointed to the October 2013 shutdown after conservative House Republicans demanded the repeal of President Barack Obama's signature health care law as one maneuver -- led by Texas Sen. Ted Cruz -- that was never going to succeed.

"The Bible says beware of false prophets. And there are people out there, you know, spreading noise about how much can get done. I mean this whole notion that we're going to shut down the government to get rid of Obamacare in 2013 -- this plan never had a chance," Boehner said.

"But over the course of the August recess in 2013 and in September, a lot of my Republican colleagues who knew this was a fool's errand -- really, they were getting all this pressure from home to do this," he said.

Boehner said conservative, Washington-based groups knew the goals they were championing couldn't be accomplished but pressed for them anyway.

"And so, we've got groups here in town, members of the House and Senate here in town, who whipped people into a frenzy believing they can accomplish things that they know -- they know -- are never going to happen," he said.

Asked specifically if Cruz, a GOP presidential candidate, was a "false prophet," Boehner didn't dispute it. He even pointed to his comment at a private fundraiser, leaked to reporters later, that Cruz is a "jackass."

Norton I'm reading all sides right now..

The central valley of CA has arguably the most illegals in one area of the United States. The central valley has unemployment rates up to %20. More illegals were issued drivers licenses in the state of CA in the first half of the year than legal residents. CA allowed illegals access to Medi-cal(insurance for the poor) but now is proposing taxing cigarettes to pay for it-since adding illegals to an already burdened system was unsustainable. San Francisco reaffirmed its "sanctuary city" status despite a citizen being shot dead because of it

Hard to argue that that is beneficial for anyone other than those who benefit from cheap labor, low wages, and increased job competition.

surprised you would say that, given your political posting history has been strongly
anti-democratic candidate, in fact can't remember you saying one positive thing that way

on the other hand, you seem to rarely talk about what you like about Republicans, if ever

so can I invite you to state your "problem" with Democratic policies specifically, instead of
just being against a black president or a woman Dem candidate \

because that would be, like, really stupid on face value, wouldn't it?

Weigel’s analysis is perceptive but too narrow. It neglects to account for the fact that real developments outside the closed, hermetic world of Washington DC are shattering the suspension of disbelief upon which all good shows depend. Real consequences are impinging upon the artificial world of the ring canvas.

The fans, once enraptured by the wrestling, have noticed large fires starting outside the stadium. They hear shouting a few blocks over in Chinese. In the far distance there’s appears to be a rumble of Russian. And right next door, where the smoke (is it smoke?) seems to be coming from thickest, are loud yells in Arabic, French and German.

They notice that the price of tickets gets higher and higher; and the food service quality lower and lower. The space under the seats looks like they haven’t been swept in weeks. And there are disturbing movements of cash boxes from the ticket gate they’ve never noticed before. They sense, even if they can’t articulate it, that something is different.

Yet to their astonishment no one in the wrestling ring, not even the announcer, appears to take the slightest notice of events and carry on making the same choreographed moves, the same scripted sounds. At that point, they crowd may start to boo.

That could prove enough to break the spell. As any dramatist knows, there is nothing more fatal for a play than the audience to so lose interest in the plot that they begin to notice the shabbiness of the props, the obvious make-up of the players and the cardboard nature of their swords. For at that moment onward, the production is doomed. The greatest danger to a show is that the crowd begins to to see the play-outside-the-play.

Boehner’s depature is yet one more sign that the narrative is breaking down. Both in Europe and in America, the same old nostrums are having increasingly less effect. The problem is growing without an answer in sight. The players are still going through the motions, but they are only making things up as they go along.

Yet we need to open up the southern borders and be more compassionate in order for the immigrants to come in so there are sufficient "workers" to do the jobs in the fields that "Americans" will NOT do.

Well if farmers and their customers were willing to pay a living wage for their produce there would be plenty of american job takers. Americans are not willing to do that work for illegal immigrant wages that for f*#king sure. Most food buyers aren't willing to pay it either.

.The Republicans don't want to help the average American citizen

Lower prices promote wealth.

Well if farmers and their customers were willing to pay a living wage for their produce there would be plenty of american job takers. Americans are not willing to do that work for illegal immigrant wages that for f*#king sure. Most food buyers aren't willing to pay it either.

Are the Chinese who make our stuff (like those iPhones) wealthy? You know, like the ones who work in the factories where they built nets around the buildings to prevent jumping suicides.

Perhaps Norton has got it right, again.

Why not have someone who fundamentally understands business making the decisions, again.

I say "Give Trump a Chance!"

Chief, you strike me as having remarkably balanced political views on a number of issues. Why in the hell would you fall for the GOP-droid narrative that the primary drain on the economy is entitlements?

V I E T N A M W A R S T A T I S T I C S

Wounded: 303,704

Severely disabled: 75,000-----23,214 100% Disabled; 5,283 Lost limb; 1,081 Sustained multiple amputations.

Amputation or crippling wounds to the lower extremities were 300% higher than in WW II and 70% higher than Korea. Multiple amputations occurred at the rate of 18.4% compared to 5.7% in WW II.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:14am PT


Oh the irony is that I am a f-ing loon fixated on bullying and creating division, anger and promoting hate

Bob D'A

Trad climber
Taos, NM




Yes that is exactly what I would do. This coming from a recovering drunk who spend his 20's-30's in a drunken stupor.

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.

Sep 28, 2015 - 11:22am PT
He makes up total lies about us
Why?

what kind of person would make up some lie, and spew it to the world?

a sick one