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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 14, 2015 - 02:27pm PT
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Nailed a five point buck that came outta nowhere this morning on 395 just before the June Lake turnoff headed north to Parker Lake to hunt some Browns at precisely 0755 this morning.
Two CHP's at the Shell station saw the whole incident and came up to check on me. Stated I am the seventh deer casualty between Mammoth and June since Saturday morning. The Tow Truck driver from Mr.K's in Mammoth that hauled my ass back down to Bishop said this is the 12th deer impacted vehicle he has towed since last weekend.
Watch the fk out... they are out and fast. Never saw this dude before it was too late... BAM!
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dirtbag
climber
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Sep 14, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
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Yikes--glad you're ok.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 02:45pm PT
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Fk that swerve shet. My Wife had the same deal happen to her last year coming down the grade from Mammoth and did the NASCAR deal and closed her eyes with two of them bad boys crossing directly in front of her. She ended up going in between both of em. Never touched em.
The one this morning, I hit the fker just I was finishing the O-O-O...H. Never got to the Shet!!! part of the sentence. That is how fast he came out of no where. Didn't have time to even react or swerve. Nailed em going around 75ish. Bag deployed the whole nine yards. Felt and sounded like I got hit with a 40mm A/A round.
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Tork
climber
Yosemite
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Sep 14, 2015 - 02:56pm PT
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Yeah glad your ok. They are all over the place in the wee hours. I need to slow it down for sure.
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Scylax
Trad climber
Idaho
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Sep 14, 2015 - 02:58pm PT
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Going 75? Ouch. What kinda deer? Muley?
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Gorgeous George
Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
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Sep 14, 2015 - 03:00pm PT
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Family and I drove from Ouray to Durango a few weeks ago at dusk. Within a half hour period we saw 28 deer on the side of the road, including one buck that stopped, looked at me as I slammed on the brakes, then dashed right in front of me. Missed him by inches.
We couldn't stop talking about how many deer were out.
My Dad hit one near Santa Maria when we were kids. Totaled the car.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Sep 14, 2015 - 03:00pm PT
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Thanks for the heads up.
Too bad you can't keep the trophy and use the meat.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 03:00pm PT
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Roger that on the Muley... that's all we got here in Eastside. Had a nice rack on him. He'll be feeding the coyotes and Ravens for the next week. I hit him so hard he went flying over the guard rail and down the hill. Cal-Trans dudes came by to verify all was clear per the CHP's request while I was waiting for the wrecker...fker!
EDIT: His Startboard Antler went through the radiator dumping all my green juice. Thus the call out for the wrecker.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Sep 14, 2015 - 03:04pm PT
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Thanks for the warning!
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Sep 14, 2015 - 03:05pm PT
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You can't keep the meat? It's ok to dress your road kill on the side of the road here in NH. Ought to be legal everywhere.
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Scylax
Trad climber
Idaho
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Sep 14, 2015 - 03:06pm PT
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5x5 Muley at 75? That Toyota of yours must be a tough truck! Glad you are ok.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 03:08pm PT
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Who the fk is going to walk down a 20-30 degree hill some 50', drag the sob turd bite deer that just fked up my truck and my fly fishing day, up the hill, throw it in the back of truck and then have blood all over the cab as it's towed 37 miles to a body shop. Specially with it's head half torn off....
EDIT: Chipper told me that had I been going 55-60, it probably would have been far worse. More area to be impacted. He had me at 75. He also made note that the faster one is going the better when hitting a deer or any other animal. They bounce off better. Take that for what's it worth.
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WBraun
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Sep 14, 2015 - 03:18pm PT
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Did the radiator survive?
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 03:22pm PT
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Not with the 40mm hole that the jackoff Buck's antler put in it. The truck bled out green juice faster than the almost decapitated Deer bled out it's red juice. Tore off and took the entire AC compressor that was connected to the middle rt hand portion of the radiator with it when it flew off the truck and over the side.
Thus the call out to have the wrecker extract my ass back down to Bishop.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 14, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
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Figured you'd fix it with your teeth, or some such.
Glad you're not dead, sort of.
"Deers"....indeed.
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Capt.
climber
some eastside hovel
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Sep 14, 2015 - 04:17pm PT
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So you chose to be towed directly to La Casita??? ;-) ;-)
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Sep 14, 2015 - 04:19pm PT
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Fauna are outta control. Saw more rattlers in Sept than in all last year, bugs are nuts and spiders blowing up. Warm weather sucks.
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Sep 14, 2015 - 04:21pm PT
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Glad I did all the climbing i ever want to do up that way! Glad yur ok Chiefy...
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d-know
Trad climber
electric lady land
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Sep 14, 2015 - 04:24pm PT
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Just drove over Chinook pass
in the fog with wapiti
on the left and right.
Luckily wapiti not as
suicidal as deer.
As noted, do not swerve.
Glad you ok
a chief.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 14, 2015 - 04:46pm PT
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You can now sue BLM and the state of CA for the damages to your truck.
They never sent the deer to skoool to learn about looking both ways before crossing.
Thus stooopid deer has no clue ......
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 14, 2015 - 04:49pm PT
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Deer never evolved to deal with vehicles. Not their fault.
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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Sep 14, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
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Damn, sorry to hear that.
Deb and I passed that area 10 minutes earlier, good thing we didn't hit it. We were in her Fiat.
Deer were on my mind.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
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CAPT.. Negative. Went directly to Bishop Autobody. Good Old fishing man and does the best quality work in town.
Terminated 2 Moose and 1 Black Bear when I was in Maine. All three with a Navy Giant Dodge 4pack 4X4 with a monster KILL THE MOOSE grill, thank god.
F10... That would have been a bad scene in the little green car.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 06:03pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^The Coyotes and Ravens.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:> Worms.
EDIT: Irony... Just got talking to my Wife about this. Would have a been a giant MOFO to have survived all the shet I have the past 40 or so years only to be whacked by a 5 Point Mule Deer on the way to have a peaceful day with the local Browns. Now that would have been seriously fked up.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 06:14pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^^That was fking Hilarious Nita... Spot on!!!!!! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
LOcker... from up thread when asked the same question.
Who the fk is going to walk down a 20-30 degree hill some 50', drag the sob turd bite deer that just fked up my truck and my fly fishing day, up the hill, throw it in the back of truck and then have blood all over the cab as it's towed 37 miles to a body shop. Specially with it's head half torn off....
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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Hey DEAN... how many you impacted in the days you lived in that area?
Side Note... let's not forget one of the Eastside Greats, John Fischer, died just 16 miles on his bike which he loved so much, up the road from where I got nailed, five years ago, at the hands of one of these beasts.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Sep 14, 2015 - 06:26pm PT
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8 in the morning, and you're still DRIVING to go fishing? That's some fecked up shet right there.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 06:49pm PT
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8 in the morning, and you're still DRIVING to go fishing? That's some fecked up shet right there.
No. Started later than normal cus after living in Crowley for 8 years, I learned that most deer impacts this time of the season occur between 5-7am. I left my house here in Bishop at 7:15.
So.... go figure.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Sep 14, 2015 - 06:50pm PT
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Ew. Scary stuff I've only hit one...or actually it jumped into the side of my car...a little TR4.
Stay safe.
Susan
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pell
Trad climber
Sunnyvale
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Sep 14, 2015 - 06:55pm PT
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Toyota truck is much stronger then Impreza, no surprise :)
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Sep 14, 2015 - 07:06pm PT
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physics be-damned (please chime in local physicists) but it seems that I can corroborate the high-speed=NBD theory, at least for deer-or-smaller critters.
NSFW/NSFWT (=NSFWeakTummies)
http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=777869
PS - TPB bonus on the double-plural Deerz... like the FLDS wivz. DIg.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 14, 2015 - 07:14pm PT
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Hey Craggy...that tainted meat story is just that...a story. Meat is fine.
A warrior would've taken it home.
Yer chief is my bitch.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Sep 14, 2015 - 07:17pm PT
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no seriously though, there is deer taint in your venison saucison. Jes' sayin'
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Sep 14, 2015 - 07:31pm PT
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We all go to Von's for shitty-meet-meet made with the finest sticking agents. I never know'd turkeys and beefz growed in such cylindrical forms before dis.
And yeah, Von's... gotta get back to that CaliForniA love and shitpiles with brokenglass erriwhersz
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ruppell
climber
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Sep 14, 2015 - 07:40pm PT
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Not true regarding road kill in Cali. All you have to do is tell the responding officer you want it. He then tells you you need to call Div of Fish and Game. They issue the tag for it.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Sep 14, 2015 - 07:41pm PT
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hey there say, ... oh my... don't think chappy will mind if i share this:
little pearl, his pupdog, got STOMPED on by a deer...
yep, they are OUT at his place, too...
dog is safe and well now... after surgery, :O
her deer trophy = scars, i reckon...
ps: oops, forgot... the PS here is:
watch NOT only the cars and trucks and bikes, etc...
watch them ol' pupdogs, too...
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Sep 14, 2015 - 07:54pm PT
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When I was a youngster growing up in western Pa where road kill deer was about as common as mosquitoes it was used for for prisons or other public funded living facilities.
Susan
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 14, 2015 - 08:12pm PT
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Whatevs....do as you will. Unless you have no will.
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ruppell
climber
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Sep 14, 2015 - 08:13pm PT
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GLillegard
You are correct and I was wrong. Sorry for the bad info. It was second hand and obviously from someone who never checked.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 08:13pm PT
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RFLMAO!!! Seriously.
Obvious that all your supposed Road Kill conseur's have NEVER impacted a 200lb plus fast moving mammal at 75mphs with your $30K truck.
Cus if any of you had, you'd all know, that is the least of your concerns after doing so.
Now, I suggest if you all want to check out my take on this, then go out and hit a fking deer with your $30K vehicle, watch the entire coolant system explode, get shoved up into the engine cavity, have the Airbag deploy etc etc etc, then, get out of that bleeding smoking vehicle, run down the embankment some 50-100' where that animal flew off to, grab the decapitated 200+ pound blood strewn animal and haul it's twitching bleeding ass up that hill back to your totally immobile vehicle, shove into the back of that vehicle, call the wrecker, have him tow you 35 miles to the nearest body shop, etc etc etc.
Yup..... Only here.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 14, 2015 - 08:18pm PT
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You're supposed to be a badass....take it home....on yer back.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
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I am a Badass!
Not a complete DUMBass as you obviously are, SKullyfk.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Goldenville west of Lurkerville
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Sep 14, 2015 - 08:24pm PT
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That's karma for all the skinny's you greased...
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 14, 2015 - 08:25pm PT
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Whatev. I remain unimpressed.
Not being full of yourself is a lesson, stupid.
Learn it.
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yosemite 5.9
climber
santa cruz
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Sep 14, 2015 - 08:30pm PT
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My son-in-law hit one last weekend in the Santa Cruz Mountains. He was going under the speed limit of 35. Blind corner. No time to stop. The deer landed on the hood and then went under the car. Three point mule deer buck. My son-in-law and my daughter thought it was going to come through the windshield.
The animal that kills the most people on earth is deer.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 08:40pm PT
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Glad they made it out ok. DID their vehicle get totally trashed, 5.9?
Whatev. I remain unimpressed.
Work on it.
RJ: Them Skinny's are still all dead. I'm still here. And so it the truck. It'll be all fixed up, shiney and rolling in 2-3 weeks.
Ordered one of these today to have put on the front. $429 shipped:
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Goldenville west of Lurkerville
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Sep 14, 2015 - 09:18pm PT
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The Chief...Didn't you have a ford pick-up ...?
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10b4me
Social climber
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Sep 14, 2015 - 09:32pm PT
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The animal that kills the most people on earth is man.
Fixed it for you
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 09:43pm PT
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RJ: Dumped that two years ago for the Tacoma.
BURCH!!
I am just thankful that you did not state anything about you personally possibly being a ... dumbASS!
Pheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Sep 14, 2015 - 09:47pm PT
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Nailed em going around 75ish Why the f*#k you think there is speed limits in the first place? What an idiot.
The poor dumb animal is smarter, and more worthy of his life (you took) than you.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Sep 14, 2015 - 09:52pm PT
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Speed limits...? Most of the traffic on 395 is doing 80...
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 09:55pm PT
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Damn.... how foolish of me. Had I been going 65 I would have not caused it to penetrate my radiator with it's antlers thus partially decapitating it.
BTW, Last May I was coming up 203 from 395 up to town just past the lane split and watched a Buck fly outta the hills and directly in front of a Subaru. I was going maybe 45. The Subi hit that fker straight on and tore the shet outta the front end and blew out the windshield.
I pulled over to check on the occupants and they were ok I then pulled the deer off the road so that no one else would impact it.
As you know Bio, the speed limit there is 55. Thus .... Moot and a bigass BAWAHHWAH!
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 10:04pm PT
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No names called Burch. Just pointing out that I am proud of you for NOT calling yourself a ... dumbASS!
32145689012,,,,!~
EDIT:
DEER'S are out in droves... Don't become a casualty. Be careful out there these upcoming weekends.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 10:53pm PT
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And a DEER can take out Burch and most all here with ALL it's knees completely severed and flying behind it's back. Fact.
Now that is the true BadASS, here. Even when it's dead.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Sep 14, 2015 - 11:41pm PT
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Glad to know all is well, truck gets fixed or junked.... Good thing for the browns you never showed.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Sep 14, 2015 - 11:54pm PT
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wildfire might be moving animals around, not sure how far,
had a friend hit a small deer in a VW bug up near butte meadows on his way to pick up his date in Chico, thinks the deer is dead, puts it in the front of the bug because thats where the trunk is, picks up date, deer start kicking the trunk, chick freaks out, get's more freaked after he gets out of car and starts stabbing it like a goodfellas movie, date over,
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, CO
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Sep 15, 2015 - 05:43am PT
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With all the deliberate actions throughout history that led to you hurtling across the landscape at high speed, it's amazing you can blame the deer...
To make that happen, your ancestors explored, mined, refined, manufactured, regulated, and exploited a staggering amount of resources.
You killed the deer, for no reason other than carelessness and inattention.
Came out of nowhere? Really?
Call John Davidson and Sarah Purcell...
And buy an American car ya commie.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:11am PT
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The Chief...weld some 13 inch spikes on your thunder dome grill ...that's the only way to keep the venison from entering the cockpit...
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 07:21am PT
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That's not Funneeee RJ!
Had an incident back 35 years ago that almost killed me and our crew.
We were doing late Eve/Night ILS approaches at NAS Pt. Mugu from the south (off the ocean). On our third rotation, just after sunset, we were a mile or so off the threshold at 1500 agl. Then... BOOOOM and a second BOOOOOM!!!!
WTF!!!!!
Alarms are going off, blood all over my face we were dropping faster than shet and all I could think of was to get ready of a water impact. I wiped the blood off my visor, got outta my seat, got on the ICS to see if my HAC and Co-Hac WERE OK. No response from my C-HAC but the Hac was getting control of the helo and calling out MAYDAY and telling the tower we were declaring and emergency for an immediate landing on the numbers. I checked my C-HAC and he was out like a light. I raised his visor that had all sorts of blood and feathers on it and saw a goose head impaled into his forehead. I put my hand on it to stop the bleeding etc. When the Hac (Vietnam HAL-5 driver) looked over, he immediately calmly told the tower we needed Medical to be standing by.
We landed two minutes later, got the C-HAC into the ambulance etc. Shut down the bird and then started to inspect WTF happened?
We had flown into a flock of Canadian Geese and two of em blew threw both of the windscreens and one hit the C-HAC. The inside of the helo cabin was all full of blood, feathers and bird guts/shet all over. I was up till 0200 cleaning it out. The C-Hac recovered and got back into the saddle three months later.
Damn!
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FrankZappa
Trad climber
Hankster's crew
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Sep 15, 2015 - 07:28am PT
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So how many animal vs vehicle incidents have you been involved in?
Did you know that driving slowly will help prevent accidents?
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peladob
Mountain climber
Mason City, Iowa
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Sep 15, 2015 - 08:09am PT
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Rick I always pegged you as a Chevy guy....
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Sep 15, 2015 - 08:20am PT
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No. Started later than normal cus after living in Crowley for 8 years, I learned that most deer impacts this time of the season occur between 5-7am. I left my house here in Bishop at 7:15.
You should be on the stream at 5 am. Early and late, amigo.
One of the most terrifying experiences of my life was driving through Southern Illinois at dusk. Boy, was that a mistake!
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Sep 15, 2015 - 11:55am PT
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Seward highway roadkill headed for the freezer.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:19pm PT
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The diet of a roadkill moose has more effect on the taste than anything else. You guys seem pretty clueless. Ever eat several hundred pounds of roadkill? Just talking out your a$$es again?
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:34pm PT
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Yes. A lot of roadkill from all seasons. For years. And plenty of September harvested moose from different regions of the state. How about you?
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:42pm PT
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Just soak it in milk for 1 to 2 days. Takes any "tang" right out of it.
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:49pm PT
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You can harvest RK in MT; it is the proper thing to do. Just fill out a simple state form in pencil and send it to fish and game the next day.
Deers are pretty small compared to elks and the one that would be the worst to hit are the mooses. Mosses have long-assed legs that put their bodies well above the windshields of most vehicles, until they are hit and that usually puts them through the windshield. The potential for large animal vs. vehicle incident is enough to give the Caulifournian a ticket to purchase a big truck/van, a big ol' coal rolling mobile, if'n ya know what I mean.
You might want some kinda modern 'cow catcher' up there in Clark Fork Le Chief. Especially if you make any forays into MT/TheCabs zone but I hear the fishin' sucks there, so maybe not.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:50pm PT
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My dog just brought this home. Maybe 5 minutes ago. Tis the season.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:55pm PT
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RIP Big Buck. Condolences to his family and friends ; )
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Kalispell, Montana
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Sep 15, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
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It's "deer", not "deers".
Works for beer though, as in "How many beers have you had:? but not "I like lots of beers".
Arne
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Scylax
Trad climber
Idaho
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Sep 15, 2015 - 01:05pm PT
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There is a stretch of road that is really bad for deer this time of the year that I drive every day. A guy feels like a Mitsubishi Zero in the Marianas Turkey Shoot every morning. :0
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
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You should be on the stream at 5 am. Early and late, amigo.
No need to abide to that old BS tale Gary.
When your good and got the right ties/flies to match the hatch or any of the other goodies that the locals are going after, you can fish any time of the day and hit em. Some of the my best days (100 plus hook ups) were between 10AM-3PM.
And Gary
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:00pm PT
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Up until this month there were many antelope on the high chaparral where I shoot, but antelope season starts in 6 days.
Word must have gone around the lopenet.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:22pm PT
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Locker...you have to cup Cragman if you want to taste his andrenal sauce...
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:35pm PT
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No need to abide to that old BS tale Gary.
It's not BS.
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:41pm PT
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^^ water temps and air temps play a bigger part in fishing...time of day dependent on these to a large extent...so you're both right, now get back to the serious business of deers + beers and sphincters.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:47pm PT
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So how many animal vs vehicle incidents have you been involved in?
Did you know that driving slowly will help prevent accidents?
seriously. were you traveling at the speed limit or under? deer f*#ked-up your day of fly fishing or climbing? Doing 82 in a 65 zone?
Both you and the deer would have reacted better had you been observing the speed limit or close to it.
But there's a dead deer and a wrecked Toyota instead.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Sep 15, 2015 - 06:54pm PT
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water temps and air temps play a bigger part in fishing...time of day dependent on these to a large extent...so you're both right
Spot on.
Once got so bored fishing browns at Fish Creek Lake in Utah, I started waiting for clouds to come over, then would cast into the leading edge of the shadow. Immediate strike every time. In the middle of the day.
Of course in the morning and evening we really killed them. Very delicious fish. Only better tasting fish was a cutbow I took out of Telephone Cove on Lake Mohave.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from Shetville
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 07:13pm PT
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What type Flies (Top Drys, Emerger semi-weighted or Bottom weighted Coneheads, Mice etc) and Wt Stick do you use, Gary?
And yes it's BS. I fish year round in all temps of water for Browns, Brookies, Cutbows, Bows and Goldens.
Some of the biggest Browns I have ever hooked were in the dead of Winter in water that was ranging around 45 Degs F in the middle of day with no hatch to be had. 2-3' of snow. Air temp in the 20's. Water was running any where from 85-135 CFS and 12-20 foot deep. Just happens to be my favorite time of the year to throw flies in the water and hunt for Browns.
Prime example of one of them locations...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
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Sep 15, 2015 - 08:10pm PT
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Kill ALL browns. Non native vermin, they.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Sep 15, 2015 - 09:48pm PT
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Rick, I use a little fiberglass brush rod with black gnats on East Fork San Gabriel River native rainbows. Small, but wonderfully beautiful fighters.
Watching a herd of Nelson bighorns crossing the stream just above the pool you're casting into, just 25 miles from downtown LA, is a pretty cool experience.
We'd use 1 or 2 pound tippets. Higher up on the Iron Fork, we'd be dipping. Tough fish there, they spook easy and the terrain is rough.
Started out spin fishing with a Fenwick UL rod and an Alcedo Micron reel with 2 pound test up the South Fork of Big Rock Creek, crawling hands and knees to the bank. We'd cut two hooks off the smallest Mepps and Panther Martin spinners that we could find.
It's appalling to admit, but I did very well with a tiny day-glo orange Panther Martin on the South Fork, but those were hold-over stockers, not wild natives.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 09:55pm PT
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Here's a true native and one of the rarest "trout' on this planet. Bet no one knows what it is.
Hooked up with the red tie of mine below..
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Big Daddy
climber
mammoth
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Sep 15, 2015 - 10:29pm PT
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Is that a Paiute Cut? Thought they were only up north.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 10:38pm PT
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Yup... Nope. Three bodies of water in the Whites hold em. The ONLY three bodies of water that are still legal to C&R em.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, CO
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Sep 16, 2015 - 05:34am PT
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I get the feeling you really enjoy messing with animals, and have a callous disregard for law, order, and the safety of others.
C&R is wildlife molestation. It serves no purpose.
You'd be surprised to know how many of them die anyway after release.
I went to CSU for natural resources management, my roommate and best friends were both fisheries majors.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Sep 16, 2015 - 06:30am PT
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It's easy to collide with deer on 395...The deer are usually lurking on the shoulder blending in with the sage..They tend to use the same migratory paths...The spot where John Fisher was taken out usually has deer standing in the middle of the highway...this a blind corner taken at 60 and there isn't much time to react..it's a crap shoot....
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 16, 2015 - 07:06am PT
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I get the feeling...
You must be on your menstrual period. Stop feeling... 99.999999% of the time "feelings" are deceptive and totally false. Fact.
The spot where John Fisher was taken out usually has deer standing in the middle of the highway..
Make that "deerS" RJ. I almost got taken out two weeks ago on the way to my monthly VA deal in Reno at the exact same spot. 5 Does standing right there.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Shetville , North of Los Angeles
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Sep 16, 2015 - 05:58pm PT
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The Chief...Deers..? Sorry about the typo but some as#@&%e is lobbing shells up here in Goldenville and i can't concentrate....rj
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skywalker1
Trad climber
co
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Feb 22, 2019 - 05:05pm PT
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West Virginia passed that law a loooong time ago. Not sure it's a law that really needs to be in place.
Yes don't swerve! Object fixation is also real. A friend of mine swerved right into the deer. Had he just kept it straight we wouldn't have been in the mess we were in and have to kill the deer.
S...
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Feb 22, 2019 - 08:03pm PT
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'Sounds like race car driving. If the car in front of loses it and spins aim straight for it, that's the one place it won't be.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Feb 22, 2019 - 10:38pm PT
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I salvaged some elk years ago in CO. Saved me that winter, was pretty broke. The look on those yuppie climbers faces headed to the ice park, driving by in LL Bean edition subarus when they saw the blood on the snow, me with a hindquarter in my hand, my friend with a knife in the elk... Pure gold.
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skywalker1
Trad climber
co
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Feb 23, 2019 - 01:32am PT
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^^^ I like that. Simple fact of life.
S...
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perswig
climber
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Feb 23, 2019 - 03:43am PT
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The Chief could really turn a phrase, alright.
Shooting the breeze with a local guide while Acadia climbing, he described following a car out of Southwest Harbor when it struck a deer, which staggered clearly damaged into the woods. The driver didn't stop, but in the time it took for the guide to pull over and find his knife, the guy behind HIM was also out, knife in hand, to go stock the freezer.
Waste not...
Dale
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Feb 23, 2019 - 07:43am PT
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Classic, Dale! Knife fight over the roadkill. Why it is illegal is beyond me. But Cali is a loony state in many, many ways.
BAd
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rurprider
Trad climber
Mt. Rubidoux
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Feb 23, 2019 - 08:03am PT
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Geez...how insensitive can you be? You just snuffed out the life of another living thing and you whine about an impaled radiator and a lost day of fishing. Slow down and be more alert.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 23, 2019 - 08:17am PT
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Then there was the Chinese cook that got caught with a dead roadkill deer in the elevator of the Sierra center mall in mammoth . Can’ remember if he was going to serve it to the public but I think he got a ticket.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab, Bozeman, the ocean, or ?
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Feb 23, 2019 - 08:41am PT
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Ahh...lemme through
Susan
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 23, 2019 - 09:09am PT
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Around here they stay off the roads...
...and in our yards.
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originalpmac
Mountain climber
Timbers of Fennario
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Feb 23, 2019 - 12:28pm PT
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When I lived in Bend I heard a story that a Chinese restaurant owner had been caught clubbing geese in a park at night. Another time in high school I was at a Chinese restaurant eating what was supposed to be teriyaki chicken, or pork. Not sure wasn't labeled on the buffet. Was a bit too stringy and tangy. Only ate a few. My friend however are a massive pile of them. Week later, cover of the paper: shutdown due to butchered cat remains in the dumpster.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 23, 2019 - 02:10pm PT
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I guess they figure some people will put bullcatchers on the fronts of their trucks and go out "hunting".
I had a roasted fawn leg that was pretty good.
I've seen lots of deer hit by cars. Many people don't realize that over 60mph the headlights don't "see" far enough to stop in time.
AND DON'T SWERVE! A friend of mine knew 2 people killed by swerving to avoid a damn rabbit!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Feb 23, 2019 - 03:22pm PT
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I swerved to avoid a rock in the road while towing a trailer too big and then the rock hopped away and that damn trailer started whipping me like a run sailor. Gawddam bunny.
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johntp
Trad climber
Punter
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Feb 23, 2019 - 03:33pm PT
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I remember BITD driving into Horton Creek campground after driving up from SoCal on a Friday night in winter. As one pulled in there were hundreds of deer eyes reflected in the headlights.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Feb 23, 2019 - 07:38pm PT
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It happens so fast at night you dont even have time to brake. I had just left Monticello UT after the sun set. I was doing 50 in my Subbie and next thing I see is a deers head just left of my drivers side headlight. I did not even see it move from right to left across the lane. Took out my parking light, and a pair of skivvies. That adrenaline shot kept me going have way across the rez.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Feb 23, 2019 - 08:58pm PT
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Yeah, don't swerve, and don't slam on the brakes.
Maybe I was lucky to have that mantra burned in. Don't know why, but it must have sunk in, because the day I killed a dog was a day I didn't kill a young girl or kill myself and another driver.
Rolling down a gravel road in a 3/4-ton pickup in central BC after some fire action, there was a young girl walking a big dog on the right shoulder. And a car coming toward me in the left lane. No big deal. The sun was shining, the road was plenty wide, and...
...and then the dog escaped her control and jumped into the road in front of me.
Swerve right... and kill the girl.
Swerve left... and collide head-on with the car in the left lane.
Jam on the brakes... and god knows what the truck would do in the gravel.
The kid was devastated. But she lived, and I hope one day she understood...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Feb 23, 2019 - 09:11pm PT
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hey there say, seagoat... and, ghost...
thanks for the photos, shots, here...
man oh man, we get them here, and, in residentials, at times...
fun to see, but scary when one is driving... :O
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