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SpokaneBob
Ice climber
Spokane, Washington
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 14, 2015 - 12:03pm PT
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Hi Fellow Climbers,
I wonder if any of you can help me. I conducted an Internet search several different ways prior to making this posting and did not get any positive information, so thought perhaps the wider climbing community might help.
I recently picked up used a carabiner with a manufacturer's stamped marking "FF CE 0082 EJ." The "FF" is surrounded by a circle and gives no indication that these stamped numbers and letters were done privately. I am almost 100% confident that these numbers and letters were applied at the factory. The carabiner is steel and closes by the common bayonet twist lock mechanism we see on aluminum carabiners for climbing.
If any of you can help me unlock the mystery of the manufacturer/source of the carabiner, or other relevant information about the carabiner, I would be grateful.
Cheers,
Bob Loomis, Spokane, WA.
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CCT
Trad climber
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Sep 14, 2015 - 12:09pm PT
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Post up a photo of the carabiner. That should help.
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SpokaneBob
Ice climber
Spokane, Washington
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 14, 2015 - 01:20pm PT
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Dear All,
Thank you for the good suggestion. I took a couple of pictures and am attempting to attach those to this reply. Thanks in advance for any help.
Cheers,
Bob Loomis, Spokane, WA.[photoid=427161]
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SpokaneBob
Ice climber
Spokane, Washington
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 01:01pm PT
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Hi Spider Savage,
Thanks. I was tending in my thinking the same direction. I knew, but failed to mention in my original posting, that the CE marking meant it had been manufactured and tested to a European Union standard. But beyond that I am stymied. Thanks much for taking the time to help.
Cheers,
Bob Loomis
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Sep 15, 2015 - 02:36pm PT
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The CE marking doesn't mean European manufacture, just certification.
The 0082 means these folks did it.
APAVE SUDEUROPE SAS
CS 60193
13322 MARSEILLE CEDEX 16 France
Notified body number 0082
http://www.apave.com/nous-decouvrir/le-groupe.html
The EJ is the certification type ( E is personal protective equipment - quality control)
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SpokaneBob
Ice climber
Spokane, Washington
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 15, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
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Hi Lorenzo,
Thanks--your reply was very, very helpful. Your information helped me to better make sense of the carabiner's origin and likely anticipated use. Much appreciated.
Cheers,
Bob
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 15, 2015 - 05:54pm PT
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Stubai rescue 'biner?
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SpokaneBob
Ice climber
Spokane, Washington
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 16, 2015 - 11:16am PT
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Hi Lorenzo & Token,
Thanks to both of you for the extra help. Your information gives me perspective. It does make sense that this carabiner was manufactured to meet an older standard since its look and "feel" suggest to me a 1970s/1980s or so biner. Stubai did make rescue gear and a company with the profile of Stubai or Stubai itself seems about right. I did happen to stop by a local wholesaler of fasteners, nuts, bolts, etc., just to ask if anyone at the counter recognized the manufacturer's stamp and no one did. Thanks again for the help.
Cheers,
Bob
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Treesquad
Social climber
EDinburgh
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Jan 15, 2019 - 07:07am PT
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Dear Spokane Bob, dont know if you ever solved the mystery of your carabiners, but i thought i would share what i found while doing a similar search for the same karabiners.
best wishes
Martyn
FOIN
For twenty years FOIN have been designing and manufacturing safety connectors for industrial use.
Established in 1862 by Alexandre Foin, this family-owned French company has focussed since the beginning in metal wire work, items such as connectors, chains and miscellaneous accessories.
Since it first began, five generations of the FOIN® family have contributed to the development of the Company, first in Paris, then in the Haute-Saône Region, more accurately in Plancher-Bas.
Applying its vast experience in working with metal, specifically wires and rods, the company diversified its production into other products. FOIN®-Spindler developed the industrial closure of jars, followed by the production of metal fabrics intended for the manufacture of protective gloves and aprons – chain mail to you and me.
For over 20 years the FOIN 'linked ring'brand, signifying its tradition of chain mail production, has been seen on metal connectors for sport and industry use.
Its classis oval and offset D screwgate CE marked EN 362 connectors are used wherever robust and reliable connectors are needed. They are seen offshore, in construction and with emergency service users.
Foin
Today FOIN is part of one of the world's largest manufacturers of safety equipment, ensuring the standards of engineering excellence set by Alexandre Foin will continue to flourish for many years to come.
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