Police: one of the safer jobs

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skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 31, 2015 - 09:38pm PT

The 10 Deadliest Jobs: Deaths per 100,000

Logging workers: 128.8
Fishers and related fishing workers: 117
Aircraft pilot and flight engineers: 53.4
Roofers: 40.5
Structural iron and steel workers: 37
Refuse and recyclable material collectors: 27.1
Electrical power-line installers and repairers: 23
Drivers/sales workers and truck drivers: 22.1
Farmers, ranchers, and other agricultural managers: 21.3
Construction laborers: 17.4

Out of approximately one million police and law enforcement personnel, with 126 deaths per year, the death rate for police is 12.6 per hundred thousand.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/ten-miles-square/2015/01/how_dangerous_is_police_work_1053727.php

Chaz

Trad climber

greater Boss Angeles area

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:39pm PT

Cops drive around a lot. That's pretty dangerous.

Eating garbage every day can't be good for you either.

overwatch

climber

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:42pm PT

Not to mention high speed donut intake.

dirtbag

climber

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:43pm PT

Sitting in your a*# everyday, I.e., what I do, should top the list. That will kill ya.

Reilly

Mountain climber

The Other Monrovia- CA

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:48pm PT

They'd be even safer if'n they didn't buy those Glocks and other striker-fired
pieces of crap. You know how many cops have shot themselves or their partners
with those things in the locker room?

thebravecowboy

climber

The Good Places

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:50pm PT

Truly, you are right, cop deaths are down, but cops are still grossly over-represented for death by firearm, which speaks to some serious need for us all to just follow the word (not action) of Rodney King.

a 56 percent increase in the number killed by gunfire, a pro-police group said

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-12-30/u-s-police-deaths-escalate-led-by-56-rise-in-gun-fatalities

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

Goldenville west of Lurkerville

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:50pm PT

This long-haired freak i worked with in the bad part of Long Beach drives by a winchells and points a toy cowboy pistol at some cops sitting out front on their break....I was inside the auto parts store when Rick , the long haired freak ,comes screeching into the driveway...The store was immeadiately surrounded by Long Beach cops weapons drawn and pointed...

overwatch

climber

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:51pm PT

That is a failure in weapon handling not the weapon.

Edit:
Referring to reilly's comment, damn you guys are fast

thebravecowboy

climber

The Good Places

Aug 31, 2015 - 09:58pm PT

or the ones from Training Day

The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Aug 31, 2015 - 10:32pm PT

Your source is confined to industry "jobs" in the US by Forbes with vague stat sources at best.

Lloyds in London as of 1998 ranked this "job" the sixth most dangerous job in the .... world.

Here are two of 8 major incidents I was directly up front in your face connected with on 13 deployments 4 at-sea CQ training FTC's. Total fatalities just in these two incidents, 16. Critically injured with amputations etc, 29.

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Carry on....

EDIT: Just in my time at sea (18 of my 24 years) on five different decks, I lost 18 Shipmates that were my peers or I was directly in charge of. One of my closest Shipmates died on May 24, 1988 @ 0130 when he inadvertently walked into the #1 turning Turboprop of COD 012 off the coast of SD doing night CQ evolutions which I was holding on the Foul Line. Unfortunately there was nothing I could do. I saw him in the corner of my right eye less than a second before the fatal contact.

These are COD's on the Foul Line... @ :13 during the day. We Operate 24/7 around the clock. Now try to keep track of them props at night with minimal lighting at best.

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overwatch

climber

Aug 31, 2015 - 10:37pm PT

Holy sh#t Chief, hard to watch, especially the first one

skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 11:13pm PT

My dad was in the Navy (Seabees) and he practically signed me up for the Air Force. Thankfully, like you, I was hundred of miles away from where we were killing the brown people with the oil.

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Aug 31, 2015 - 11:28pm PT

Flight decks are inherently dangerous. Was on the helo pad late one night in heavy seas and rain for the crash that killed the only Admiral lost in Vietnam. I dove behind the missile ejector, other guys dove in the nets and a couple over the side. Rotor blades flying everywhere. Retrieved the admiral's body, two of three staff were never found, the third survived as did the flight crew. Our guys in the water were picked up the next day by a destroyer.

All my buddies ended up on carrier flight decks which are way, way worse.

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The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Aug 31, 2015 - 11:37pm PT

My dad was in the Navy (Seabees) and he practically signed me up for the Air Force. Thankfully, like you, I was hundred of miles away from where we were killing the brown people with the oil.

Hmm... the second other Most Dangerous Job in the World, US Navy Helo Combat SAR Crewman.

That put me in many cases 1-200' AGL where the "Skinny" guys in Mogidishu from Aug 10th - Nov 25, 1993. You are aware why Bill Clinton sent us there are you not. Nothing to do with oil actually.

I will leave the rest to your Frankfurt AM/MAIN Air Force office boy stationed ass to decipher and of course post some nice thing about.

skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 11:43pm PT

I was in Kuwait & turkey building bombs.

The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Aug 31, 2015 - 11:45pm PT

Good for you. What size LGB's and Rockeye's for what A/C Platform.

Storm or the latest endeavor.

If Storm, where....

skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 11:49pm PT

Thank god I was in between those 2 wars!

Gotta die for your government!!!!
Gotta die for your government!!!!
Gotta die for your government!!!!

The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Aug 31, 2015 - 11:50pm PT

Ah... What Group were you with. And what size LGB's?

Storm wasn't a "war" btw.

And now I know your full of shet about Kuwait between "wars. Cus we were told to leave Kuwait after Storm and there were NO bomb makers ever in Kuwait. We never flew out of Kuwait. We weren't allowed to. All part of UN Res 660-687 or whatever numbers were there.

Nice try Skitch.

skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 11:56pm PT

You obviously don't have a clue.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Al_Jaber_Air_Base

And we mostly built MK82&84 paveways.

We mostly processed a lot of 20mm and 30mm.

I didn't really enjoy the "military". Too many brain washed morons that grasp for any ideology that confirms their shitty life choices.

The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Aug 31, 2015 - 11:59pm PT

Oh my bad... so what size LGB's and or Rockeyes did you build for either platform. And what exact SQ were you in.

Got any photo's... or are you just wiki'ing. Curious to know what years you were there cus we bingo'd several A/C to that exact field while doing the N-F-Z support between 95-99 on three different cruises. That would be UN RES/.....

Surely you have photos. Everyone has some. This is from my last dep. The one that is in the second vid I posted up thread. The Prise.

Edit: Ah.. good old GBU's. It's not for everyone that's for sure.

skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2015 - 12:10am PT

I don't know half the sh#t you are asking. I was in AMMO with the 388 MXS from hill AFB.

I did 4 years, was in Kuwait in 1998 & 99 both in the fall/winter. No pictures anymore. Besides work their wasn't much to do, besides laundry, weights and video games. The closest we saw for action was Desert Fox, which was probably a distraction during clintons dick sucking debacle.

The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Sep 1, 2015 - 12:14am PT

Too many brain washed morons that grasp for any ideology that confirms their shitty life choices.

Hmmmm... appears you just do not appreciate nor respect authority figures. Being told what to do and all that stuff. Too bad but respectable.

You should have gone PJ's. I assure you that you would have had more fun, done and learned a ton more shet.

I don't know half the sh#t you are asking. I was in AMMO with the 388 MXS from hill AFB.

So then why did you initially dis my post about being on the deck when you in fact haven't the foggiest what it all entailed? We didn't have video games nor weights or any of that stuff. We worked our asses off 18-22 hours with 4-6 hours maybe down time. I believe Healyje can confirm that.

Out.

skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2015 - 12:21am PT

Too wimpy for special forces.

The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Sep 1, 2015 - 12:26am PT

Too bad... it would have certainly changed your mind and given you a far better perspective on "military" life.

PJ's are badasses. Worked with Scott Fales in Shu town. Good man.

EdwardT

Trad climber

Retired

Sep 1, 2015 - 06:05am PT

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skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2015 - 07:21am PT

I'm 6'4" and when I joined I weighed 175 lbs and could barely do a pull-up. . . Not the type of person that goes SF.

Since separating I've moved 13 times, including the Peace Corps, the pics didn't represent a part of my life I cared to remember, so off they went.

When I was on Facebook a friend from my short to turkey posted some pics of me driving a forklift, which is one of the few skills useful for the real world.

The Chief

climber

Lurkerville east of Goldenville

Sep 1, 2015 - 07:33am PT

And that Skitch was most assuredly by your choice as the USAF afforded you multiple opps had you wanted to actually explore them.

But I do understand as I had this conversation many times with young sailors that wanted the fk out asap. One of which got busted spray painting "FTN" multiple times all over the Skippers car on the pier. Another one that went as far as attempting to jump over the side onto the pier. Unfortunately, one decided to totally check out. I found him in fan room. Dead... he hung himself.

Like I said, the military isn't for everyone. That doesn't mean it's all fked up.

Too many brain washed morons that grasp for any ideology that confirms their shitty life choices.

One of my tours was flying logistics and SAR all over ANTARCTICA. Did a buttload of climbing. Stepped on summits and land masses that no other humans ever had.

I thoroughly enjoyed my 24 years. I chose to do shet that was out there and badass challenging after a very salty ABCM (retired with 38 years) passed on some wise words to me a week after reporting onboard the 66 Boat. He reminded me that the Navy is only as good as I want it to be. And as bad I choose to make it. That it had opportunities galore to do shet that will put one beyond over the edge only if I sought them out. He was spot on.

Here's another gig I chose to do in between trips to the ICE. I actually had Werner, COS, The General etc in my helo several times..

skitch

Gym climber

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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 1, 2015 - 08:00am PT

Like my supervisor once told me: "your a good guy, but you're not good for the Air Force."

I doubt I'm a good guy, but certainly not cut out for that lifestyle, which the military is.

The military got me out of the tiny town I was in, I wasn't yet ready for college immediately after high school, but it helped pave the way for my under grad in civil engineering and a masters in environmental engineering. So right now I'm in my glory days and not at all bothered that if I stayed in I would be retiring in 2 years, with no real world abilities and no education.