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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 31, 2015 - 08:48pm PT
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fourth time in a row....in my yard, roundabout 9:30 after the stray cat comes through, the local urban skunk has nuked my dog. yes, my dog is a wimp for not just snapping it's neck, no I am not feeding the animals, yes I have cut down ingress/egress to both property and edifice, and yes I am prepared to resort to extreme methods, and here is the qwestion:
how do I get rid of this skunk and/or the racoon that has been crapping under my boat?
there is an apple tree or two in the yard
father sez: rent a humane trap, catch critter, toss both in river
landlord says: .22 short are quiet
ACE hardware says: crossbow works better than chemicals ('specially so as not to disturb my mutt)
ma femme dit: they were here first
ma mere dit: apply mothballs and pick up the apples to discourage foraging
et vous tous? et ce que vous pensez tous?
Oh yeah, I saw this video tonight and I am pretty excited about bolted OW .12- right now (first time I have ever even tentatively accepted bolted cracks at all, that!)
Squat, .12-
https://www.epictv.com/media/podcast/burl-fest-cedar-wright-wrestles-the-ridiculous-offwidth-squat-|-cedar-wright-climbing-reels-ep-6/600301
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 31, 2015 - 08:52pm PT
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Reposition the boat so it isn't a haven? It's funny we used to have a zillion
skunks here but they weren't squirters - we all got along fine. Then they
got hit by a rabies epidemic and I haven't seen one in yonks. I do like 'em.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 08:54pm PT
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Just moved in and they were already into using the roof overhang as a cozy little deucin' spot
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 31, 2015 - 08:56pm PT
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Well, maybe you need to go have a talk with 'em. I did and they were quite
receptive. Well, we had good eye contact (very important) and they were
clearly listening.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Aug 31, 2015 - 08:56pm PT
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Catch em in a live trap, with a tarp over it so they cant skunk you. Take em out many miles away in the woods in the back of a pickup truck so you don't smell up your rig, and let em go. Your karma will be glad you did.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Aug 31, 2015 - 08:57pm PT
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Call 1-800-rent-a-cougar
Just remember to keep children and pets indoors for the duration of the rental period.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 09:03pm PT
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Studly, good call, and maybe toss in some boilin' bleachy water for the dirties.
And yeah, Reilly, I would be inclined to trust you on this one, but their little eyes, man, their little eyes are just so....mustelidic? I mean I used to love skunky beer and skunky funk on the summer air-tides, but this animal has just plain ruined garlic for me. That and the beady eye/bandit thing and the Ascaris procyonosis (sp?) shitpiles somehow hinder my diplomatic abilities. Mostly it's the beady eyes though. Are you the kinda guy that would talk to a Thiol-terrorist mustelid? Because I sher aint.
EDIT: SO sick of bathing dog in peroxide. What do you offer skunks for parley?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Aug 31, 2015 - 09:09pm PT
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You just gotta believe that they just wanna get along. Maybe my being Irish
predisposes me to being able to communicate with terrorists. I gotta admit,
though, that my nerve failed me in Belfast during The Troubles. But this is
about yer troubles. Frankly, I've had way more probs with them coons; they
just don't seem to want to get along. I, literally, almost lost my nose to
one. Talkin' didn't do shite!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 31, 2015 - 09:11pm PT
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hey there say, bravecowboy... here is one link...
i will look for some more...
say, also, did you say, you just moved in ... IF the skunks have HAD this area for years, as their territory, it may be harder to keep them away...
there was trailer court, area, around here, where the folks were not warned that skunks were breeding there for years, before the spot was built...
each year, they'd come all around the mobile homes... :O
say, here you go:
http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to-create-natural-skunk-repellent.htm
will be back in a minute...
oops, put that one link, twice... sorry...
here, is new one:
http://www.wikihow.com/Get-Rid-of-Skunks
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WBraun
climber
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Aug 31, 2015 - 09:15pm PT
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Cedar Wright Wrestles The Ridiculous Offwidth 'Squat'
That looked pretty burly.
Lightning bolt Offwidth crack on Broderick is bolted also.
You can easily die on it without the bolts.
I tried it first without bolts and realized the potential to die too easily and backed off.
Shipley went for it and barely lived and miraculously got a lower off nut when he got strung out.
Shipley went back bolted it.
Some rare times bolt is better than pine box ......
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 09:21pm PT
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Thanks Neebs, I dig the link and can't help but wonder if I've moved into some kind of ancestral skunk-hive-place, or maybe just a place where they enshrined their progenitors (I don't think they breed here).
And Reilly, yeah man, those coons are waaaay worse than the Bloods, the Crips, or even the Sharks in the Student Ghetto alley here. Each night they viciously and loudly gut the Dumpster two places down from my woman's spot - FUckin Savannah style, no joke. Probably only about 150 lbs of animals but man they would f*#k you up worse than Machete in a minnit. So yeah, I guess I gotta either get beat into the gang or turn stool pigeon or maybe just quit the town. Or maybe go all undercover like Val Kilmer in Salton Sea. Yeah, gotsa get that trumpet.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 09:22pm PT
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Yeah Werner, thanks for sharin' the stoke.
I have to say that I do really appreciate the ability (moral flexibility) of an FA-ist to preserve the athleticism and pure movement of a high-end route and keep it safe and Type I fun for the next dude. Thanks for helping me to feel better about that.
I do also understand that placing gear and dragging a rope is really a big part of trad climbing. It's just so nice to have the damn rope outside the crack when you're pushing hard.
And yeah, so WTF is .12- anyway?
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 31, 2015 - 09:23pm PT
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hey there say, thebravecowboy... hmmm, just saw this...
not sure about this though... you'd have to think and decide:
anonymous
If mothballs are poison, why are they used in the house to keep moths from destroying clothing? I had heard the mothballs keep skunks away rumor and decided to try it as a last ditch effort before I loaded a pistol and took care of it the messy and loud way. Bought about 3 pounds of mothballs and a few pair of pantyhose. Cut off the feet of the hose, put mothballs in tied them off. Placed several of these bags under the shed where the skunk was living - within a week the skunk had abandoned the cozy spot under the shed...I'll keep using them as long as they keep the skunks away!
 See more at: http://www.hgtvgardens.com/garden-basics/making-a-stink-how-to-keep-skunks-out-of-your-garden#sthash.8mCfSGXj.dpuf[/quote]
this may have been on the other post, but here it is again:
If skunks are snacking on the vegetables in your garden and you don't want to try the remedy above, you can plant cucumbers, squash or other prickly-leaved plants among your vegetables [source: Gardening Know How].
If you suspect that a family of skunks has made a den on your property, try boiling one chopped yellow onion, one chopped jalapeno pepper and one tablespoon of cayenne pepper in two quarts of water for 20 minutes. When the broth is done, strain the liquid and pour the it into a spray bottle, then squirt it all around the skunks' den [source: City of Lakewood].
If skunks are walking around your front or back path or porch, try placing a rag in a bowl of ammonia on the ground in the area. The smell will keep skunks away. However, it's important to keep the ammonia away from any grass or plants, as ammonia will burn them [source: City of Sacramento].
and, hmmm, there is the IRISH SPRING, SOAP THING...
does it work... dont' know...
here, the guy shows how to do it...
among his vast deer visitors, oh my...
http://www.curbly.com/users/DIY-Maven/posts/1556-use-irish-spring-to-keep-out-garden-pests
say, THIS works for mice, but i will check, if it will deter skunks...
AnonymousApril 12, 2015 at 7:44 AM
They hate peppermint essential oil. Buy some sponges, cut them up, soak them in peppermint oil and put them down. Yeah, it'll smell like a candy factory, but the smell will dissipate and so will the mice
also, i am wondering about putting eucalyptus oil, sprayed all over...
(these things are expensive, by the way, though) :(
and you MAY BE STINKING your own spot up, in a 'new way' just to keep them at bay, ;)
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Aug 31, 2015 - 09:24pm PT
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First off, don't take any sh#t from them. You're boss over all skunks.
Once the skunk understands this, he needs to get the f*#k out of here.
I SAID GET THE F*#K OUT OF HERE!
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 09:28pm PT
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The eyes, the eyes!!!666!
OH! The eye! {faints}
EDIT: Neebs, it all comes back to the Irish connection. Thanks Reilly!
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Aug 31, 2015 - 09:36pm PT
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hey there say, okay...
one last one, for now...
http://www.wisebread.com/how-to-get-rid-of-a-skunk-without-losing-your-dignity
hmmm, i wonder about bleach or ammonia rags, ??
let us know, how it goes, then... :)
ahh, say, thebravecowboy... as to irish, as well:
i RISH and hope, that you have success, ;)
some of these 'barrier of smells' say, to start out in a small area and build your barrier, larger and larger, until you have a 'circle' etc, that surrounds you and they won't want to cross it to get in the yard...
:))
also, last effort, ?
i'd like to see this work, :)
AS--i was nearly READY to do this to keep the RABBITS OUT of my green beans...
did not have to, though... only PUT THE chicken wire, and laid it deep so the rabbits could NOT dig under in ONE night... and kept checking it...
say, but seriously, like i did:
can you make a long chicken wire DECORATIVE little fence... not too high, and surround the AREA of your place?... skunks do not like to climb... so the rumor, is, ???
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 31, 2015 - 10:49pm PT
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La femme wants a skunkpet. Currently googling "skunk anal sacculectomy on the kitchen table"
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, thebravecowboy...
oh my, change of tactics...
ahhh, the things that skunk-situations at home, drive a person to do... ;)
:))
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Mark Sensenbach
climber
CA
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What Studly said, You set a haveaheart trap the night before. When you get one in trap, Carefully walk toward trap w sheet so skunk can not see you only grey sheet shape coming. You drape sheet over trap. You take trap to body of water and put whole thing in. You drown skunk. You burry in deep hole or double plastic bag and put in dumpster. done.
Kinda gnarly but works. Just make sure a neighbor does not yell out 'hey cowboy what ya doing' when you are carrying covered haveaheart w sheet. Real quiet.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Just moved in and they were already into using the roof overhang as a cozy little deucin' spot
This is America, shoot the the natives and make way for the new occupants.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Interesting stuff here. I feel, for the reasons below, that I may have something to contribute here;
1) I once had a pet skunk
2) I did the second ascent of squat
3) I caught Walt's fall on my Broderick that day
4) I have my own experiences establishing and climbing appropriately bolted hard ow cracks; --wide world of sport 5.12b fa
-placing two of the bolts on Break a leg 5.12- Indian creek
-and last Friday tr-ing forever war, albeit I still have a couple hangs to eliminate.
#1) Skunks don't make good pets. I had Shalimar for about six months before she got too wild and moved on to a nearby nature park. It was fun walking her on a leash, and surprising friends but she never was that friendly, nor cuddly, and never warmed to our cats.
#2) at the time (1984?) there was no reliable pro for a downward flaring widecrack roof like Squat. I was glad to clip the quarter inch bolts replete with what we now refer to as "Leeper death hangers." Though I think with larger camalots, friends and valley giants it's probably not necesary to clip them today.
#3) that day on Broderick was about as exciting as it gets! He was run way out on bad, homemade 7-9" cans that would not possibly have caught him, if it wasn't for the surprise side rack and the 3.5 friend that happened to miraculously fit it. That could have been the end of the walt show, right there!! When he subsequently bolted it, I think that wasagain,the only choice. Though again with modern big cams ihey might not be essential any more.
#4 a)At the time of the first ascent,1995,there weren't wide enough cams to protect Wide world. I told Craig that he could probably pro it with enough big bros, but bolts seemed a good idea at the time. Eleven bolts in two pitches including two sets of belay anchors.modernpro could replace the pro bolts, but when we repeated the route in 2013 both potential second ascent leaders, Alexey and Christina, placed bro sand giants between the bolts and didn't seem to think the bolts spoiled the fun!
b) the crack on break a leg flares inward and it's almost impossible to places cam at the lip,not adequate for staying in place withtheropedrag,etc. a couple strategic bolts kept it from being a death route.
c) the forever war. If you invert on this one like the first ascent upmost did,the bolts are essential for keeping your head from cratering on the ledge when you fall. And you will fall!cansfit, but they are sharing aright space with your feet. Kicking one out would be a disaster!
I think judicious use of bolts by cracks has its place, be careful on your belays, and there are better pets than skunks!
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Lacey
Social climber
Nevada
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This works well, my cat got skunked...(1)1QT HYDROGEN PEROXIDE(2) 1/4 CUP BAKING SODA (3)1tsp Dawn dish soap. mix together keep out of eyes and rinse with cool water.....
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overwatch
climber
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Salton Sea was crazy, be happy it isn't a badger.
Listen to Ma and Pa.
Cool post, Jaybrizzle
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nita
Social climber
chica de chico, I don't claim to be a daisy.
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I'm in the camp to not kill it...relocate it...we are encroaching on their habitat...
I had a friend that had a family of raccoons under her house...She put a radio near their den and played loud rock & roll non stop for several days.....The raccoons packed their bags and went to the neighbors down the street.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Brave Cowboy: I feel for your plight.
We have intervals where we have lots of skunks here on the ranchette, then there's a die-off, likely due to rabies.
I unfortunately have caught them in a live trap like Chaz posted on three occasions, when I was trying to live-trap stray cats or rock chucks.
First time, I was conveniently out of town, so Heidi called Fish & Game and an summer-intern Warden showed up to deal with the skunk. They agreed on the tarp-method, and the intern got the piss sprayed out of the tarp & him, while Heidi watched from a safe distance. After a while he borrowed my 22 rifle shot it, bagged the stinking body and left, and the ranchette smelled of dead skunk for three days. (I’m sure the poor intern-Warden found a new career choice.)
So-----I don't believe in tarps anymore.
The next year, I went out to the live trap at 7:00 AM and found a skunk instead of a stray cat. I wandered back to the house for coffee & thought up a new plan. Normally skunks squirt when shot, but I had been counseled that if a bullet breaks their spinal cord, they can't squirt. I had also noted that lack of squirting, when I shot a rabid skunk that was attempting to join us & some friends during an afternoon tour around the ranchette. It still is important to bury skunks before the muscles relax and the odor comes out.
Fortified with coffee, I walked back to the trapped skunk with my 22 rifle & a shovel. I closed on the skunk until he was getting real excited, backed off a little and dug a deep hole. Then I moved as close as possible to the skunk & shot him 3 times in the back of the neck, opened the cage, dumped him into the hole, & quickly back-filled it. I hardly got any stink on me at all.
The third time was this summer and I tried the same scenario, but wasn’t as lucky in my shooting, due to the cage wire deflecting two of my shots. I shot more times to be sure of the kill & the skunk started dripping thick & stinky goo from the stink orifice. I got totally skunked, but dumped the victim and back-filled the hole, before stumbling to our back porch, stripping and taking a very long shower. I could smell & taste skunk scent for two days.
Maybe you need a meaner dog?
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