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couchmaster
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:20pm PT
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OK Chief, I'll lay the truth on ya. But you won't like it. I see it as apples and oranges.
1st) No officer should ever die like that. Ever. That the Rev Farrakan is calling for 10,000 warriors to do exactly that during the million man march this coming October is a horrific thing in my view. He's a chickenshit who wants others do do his dirty work, but won't step up himself and get his hands dirty.
When an officer kills a dark skin civilian in error. Almost all people of color relate as they have experienced or heard of tales of repression by the full weight of the authorities and traditionally they haven't been able to do a damned thing about it but suck it up and be angry. Very very angry. Anyone who has chosen otherwise has traditionally been slapped back down and beat back in place by a huge machine.
However, when the reverse occurs and a black man kills a cop, all cops do not feel threatened or oppressed. They haven't been sh#t on for over 400 years. They've been running the show. And they know that the full weight of the huge machine they are part and parcel of will soon start grinding to crush the miscreant along with the hard working/honest but "uppity" black guy who drives a mercedes (etc etc) like the out of step insect they are. That's the way the system works. As far as your question "where's the rioting and fires". From whom? The police will rage but they do it off camera. White people aren't going to step out of their quiet and excellent lives to suddenly break the law. No ones been shitting on white people and keeping them down for 400 years (with a few exceptions). White people near universally believe the police are there to help them. Blacks usually feel the reverse. I can't change the way blacks feel about getting sh#t on, they feel the way they feel based on what they see. What they see is different than what we see. I'm not saying it can't change, I have seen it getting better (mostly) with my own eyes in my lifetime.
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GuapoVino
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:27pm PT
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The reason there's no protest in this case is because there is no need FOR a protest. The appropriate actions that should be taken will be taken. The guy will be arrested, indicted, tried, then probably found guilty and punished.
The reasons for protests in other instances is because the people protesting (or some percentage of them) feel that what should be done is not being done, therefore they feel they have no other recourse but to push the issue by protesting. The disenfranchised protest, always have always will. It's how this country came to be. Every disenfranchised group in the history of this country has protested, sometimes aggressively.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:33pm PT
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Speaking of renouncing reason. The revolutionary writer Thomas Paine wrote some other things too, in The Age of Reason
"I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turk church, or by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my own church.
"All institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit."
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:41pm PT
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Do you guys love the Death Wish films as much as I do? Sort of like a fine wine - that you have to keep from shooting out your nostrils with laughter.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:42pm PT
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However, when the reverse occurs and a black man kills a cop, all cops do not feel threatened or oppressed. They haven't been sh#t on for over 400 years. They've been running the show. And they know that the full weight of a huge machine will soon soon start grinding to crush the cop shooter along with the hard working but "uppity" black guy who drives a mercedes (etc etc) like the out of step insect they are. That's the way the system works. As far as your question "where's the rioting and fires". From whom? The police will rage but they do it off camera. White people aren't going to step out of their quiet and excellent lives to suddenly break the law. No ones been shitting on white people and keeping them down for 400 years (with a few exceptions). White people near universally believe the police are there to help them. Blacks usually feel differently. I can't change the way blacks feel about getting sh#t on, they feel the way they feel based on what they see. What they see is different than what we see. I'm not saying it can't change, I have seen it getting better (mostly) with my own eyes in my lifetime.
Odd.... You might want to inform the following "oppressed" feeling black people that:
Barack Obama
William Holder
Condoleezza Rice
Colin Powel
Jeh Johnson
Dr. Ben Carson
Sheriff David Clark(... who is a registered Democrat and ran four times as a Democrat and won unanimously all four elections. I will allow you to watch below and have him educate you and the rest here that know not one thing that they speak of regarding the Black Communtiy, about the truth, Couch.)
And so many many many others that rose above the bullshet you post from the depths of poverty and did something beneficial with their lives. REGARDLESS the circumstances you and the others keep pinning the Black Community down with.
Watch and learn something... all of you!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:42pm PT
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Hey Chief, tell us who to be outraged at and we will get right on it.
Can you see the difference between an institutionally sponsored execution and a lone deranged gunman execution. Just think about it for a minute.
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:43pm PT
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Nothing like Black People 101 from a white dude with a sore tooth and all those opioid receptors docked and unloading.
Didn't Cliven have a guest lecture spot here?
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overwatch
climber
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:48pm PT
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Cowboy,
I think that pic is from "The Mechanic"
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:51pm PT
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The Chief points out that there is no rioting....no fires...in spite of this tragic and horrific event.
Agreed. And it is this way for 99.xx% of all homicides. It is the NORM.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:52pm PT
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Just a Homocide now?
Not according to this "Expert"
A registered and elected Democrat from the "Projects" of Milwaukee...
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 31, 2015 - 03:55pm PT
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Good lord, you guys are stretching.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:01pm PT
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So now you are stating that David C. Clarke, a black man from the poverty and crime riddled streets of the Projects in South Milwaukee, an elected Democrat Law Enforcement Official in the county of Milwaukee, is "Stretching"?
More.... Repeat "Stretch"
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:03pm PT
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Yes. So are you.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:05pm PT
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Explain Why.. Dirtbag. If you can.
I know.. he doesn't sing your ignorant Lake Tahoe rich boy tune. Got it.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:09pm PT
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You forgot the rest of it Locker... typical
Clarke has been elected three times to the Sheriff's office as a Democrat, despite not belonging to any party. This has spurred criticism from the local Democratic Party.[3]
Clarke explains his choic]e to run as a Democrat thusly on his website:
"Like me, most people question why the Office of Sheriff is a partisan election. I have never asked a person to vote for me because I run as a Democrat. I ask them to vote for me based on my 35-year commitment to keeping citizens safe. Most voters get it when it comes to public safety. There is no Democrat or Republican way to be a sheriff. The enemy is not the opposing party; the enemy is the criminal."[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_A._Clarke,_Jr
WOW... kinda what you wanted in the "America Party"
Nice try Locker.
Got Glue.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:12pm PT
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The guy was deranged. How is that possibly Obamas fault? Who the fook knows what he heard?
You guys keep trotting out black guys, who you point out as being black, and then say "see, this prominent black fella says the same thing I am saying; therefore I am right."
It's not persuasive, and it's a strange way to make a point.
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The Chief
climber
Lurkerville east of Goldenville
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:15pm PT
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Now a three time unanimously elected Sheriff from Milwaukee County is deranged.
This coming from old worn out climber dude from Lake Tahoe.
Priceless.
Born and raised in the City of Milwaukee, I played on the championship varsity basketball team at Marquette University High School. I went on to earn a degree in Criminal Justice Management from Concordia University Wisconsin, graduating summa c#m laude. As part of my ongoing educational studies, I also graduated from the prestigious FBI National Academy and the National Executive Institute in Quantico, Virginia.
Over the past three-and-a-half decades, my career in law enforcement has spanned multiple assignments. My journey of service began with the Milwaukee Police Department in 1978, where I helped protect the city for 11 years as a patrol officer on the streets. After promotion to Detective in 1989, I was assigned to the Homicide Division, investigating close to 100 homicides a year as part of a team and making arrests in over 80% of cases.
My leadership was recognized again in 1992, with a promotion to Lieutenant of Detectives, and in 1996, when I was promoted to the rank of Captain of Police, with assignments as Commander of the Crimes Against Property Division, the department’s First District (downtown), and the Intelligence Division.
In 2002, I won my first election as Sheriff with a margin of 64%. In 2006, I garnered 73% of the vote, proceeding to win 74% in 2010.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:15pm PT
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Now a three time unanimously elected Sheriff from Milwaukee County is deranged
I didn't say the sheriff was deranged. The killer was deranged. That was not clear from context?
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Aug 31, 2015 - 04:23pm PT
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Crap?
Nope... this one hits home and is deep. Read the first page.
The LEO that was executed is the Brother of the dude that saved my ass from a SKINNY RPG round going through my head in SHUTOWN.
First of all, My condolences on your loss. I think however you might want to read what I said again.
Hey Rick,
I thought you were over crap slinging fests like this one.
What are you doing starting this sh!t ..
I never referred to it as crap. I was simply pointing out the fact that this thread has evolved in typical st politico fashion. Monkeys slinging sh!t at each other.
You had to know when you started this thread with such a provocative title, the kind of reaction you would get.
A wise man once said
NWO and the rest of ya'll on BOTH "political" sides... All this negative beating the hell outta each other shet on all these stupidass worthless political threads just aint worth it. Trust me.
NOT one of you out there can do a damn thing to change any of the worthless crap you (and I played into and along with for a long time till recently) all keep posting threads on.
It is ALL going to be as it has, is and will be.
Applying YC's quote "It's not about catching fish. It's about the fish catching you" to many of your lives will truly free you from all the bullshet that does not need to be. Here on ST and throughout the world. I did and am living proof it works.
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