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ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 19, 2015 - 09:19pm PT
Well Folks, I know I'm gunna die...

but you guys still hold a vast wealth of experience and laugh-worthy lessons that a n00btastic Newbie like myself still needs to hear/read.

Looks like I'll be going solo adventure style this weekend, and although this is not my first time, I realize that my choices as a loner traveller into the Great Mountain Spaces are not the same as when I'm with The Crew. I look at different factors, asses situations differently and this doesn't even get to the climbing bit! From where I park, what I bring to eat, how much coffee to bring, all these bits are different when I go solo. Mostly due to personal preference, safety, comfort level, and adventure goal. I've learned a few lessons. Like where I'd camp alone is different than where I'd camp when with a climbing crew. How to make coffee in the back of my car (this configuration only allows one person inside the car, but it works!), and how a long drive is different when there's no one to help do half the driving.

And yet, I still know so little...!!

What are some tricks and tips you have for going Out There with your bad ass self? Do you go harder with no one around to scold you into some semblance of reasonable behavior? Do you end up being more conservative because the lack of shared resources that comes with companions?

I'll bet that y'all leave the guidebook at home when you're going out alone to a new place! ;)

Thanks for the shares all!

Cheers

LS
Rick Vena

climber
SF,CA
Aug 19, 2015 - 09:24pm PT
I'm sure you may already do this but, make sure to tell someone where you are going and what your itinerary is.
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Aug 19, 2015 - 09:29pm PT
I now tend to wander off the plan more and am a bit lazier when alone. There were times when young I was alot faster alone. Regarding risks I don't do things differently. Have always been pretty strict about risk management ..I have no interest in getting injured solo or with partners. being in the mountains solo is something everyone should do occasionally. It's a whole different experience. I always find myself taking in and appreciating the environment itself much more deeply.
T.J.

climber
Aug 19, 2015 - 09:35pm PT
I like solo adventures from time to time. I suppose a list is helpful without a second to bounce ideas,follow the previous post but more importantly, allow space for the reason you are going solo in the first place. The goal may be more fluid than with a partner.

Good luck! And get back with us!

Have fun!!

Cheers!

T.J.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Aug 19, 2015 - 09:40pm PT
sounds like good fun.

do not loose the argument with yourself.

Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Aug 19, 2015 - 09:48pm PT
Time Stretches when going lone.

[Click to View YouTube Video]


Solo FA - No Bolt Insurance 5.8ish


mtnyoung, found these gems in your acct. sweet shots, thx!
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Aug 19, 2015 - 09:54pm PT
No dying yet. Have fun only.You get to do whatever you want whenever you want within means, so enjoy. So curious what you are considering doing.... solo aid, minitrrax, bouldering or maybe just hiking or....? Yes let at least a few people know where you plan to go and when you plan to be back.
couchmaster

climber
Aug 19, 2015 - 10:03pm PT

Wow, just got my plans changed moments ago from doing a solo on a new route to getting invited to do a fa with some good dudes. So, on the solo thing, I do that on occasions. Love it. Having a backup plan, as noted above, by giving a competent partner the coordinates and the time you will return, with detailed instructions of what to do: is good advice. If you choose to change plans, make sure you leave a note on your car or someplace. The sheriff will be into your vehicle in short order after he/she pops the lock, you can leave it there. I use to head out and no one would know where I was. No one. No phone, no nutin. But I have loved ones who changed my mind about doing that. That and having an Aron Ralston moment on a cliff with a boulder trapping my leg while cleaning. Got lucky on that one as it went from bad to worse with a series of unexpected BS. (long story but the short version, I lived)

As I'm old - but still mostly competent, I am often the dude to keep both the secret spot secret and at the same time the dude who is charged with the body recovery task by my friends. What I do is put it on the Microsoft office calendar to check in. Ifn I don't hear back at the agreed time, I call you and if I cannot connect: drop everything and come a running. This can be both the suckist thing you ever do, but also the most rewarding. So pick that person(s) you want to lay this terrible burden on carefully, they may in fact be able to save your life if they have enough info, knowledge and personal juice. Or not. But make sure you don't screw them out of the info you need to toss over their way. They can come up with the personal juice themselves. Or knott.

The other bit of advice is this: have fun. I'm not joking, that's what it's about. That can get lost in the massive amounts of gear and the stress of the games we play, and it is even worse when we go out solo, but it's really the root of what we want, so play to that.

Lastly: go with your gut. If you don't want to do it, (ie, soloing up a new cliff with loose rock in the middle of nowhere, or walking a path being stalked by a cougar and you are concerned cause the hair is standing up on your neck) then don't push it. Follow your heart and your instincts.

And have fun:-)
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Aug 19, 2015 - 10:03pm PT
When solo roped climbing I stay in a comfort zone well below my limit. Getting there and coming back I'm terrible about keeping up any pace. I tend to look over one to many ridges checking out every vantage point, looking down every draw, making sure I get the most value per mile. Even on day trips I pack a stove and water and find a nice secluded place to sit back and enjoy a cup. I figure in this snail pace when given out my be back time.

Your on your own time, enjoy it to the fullest.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 19, 2015 - 10:18pm PT
start with a relatively easy adventure around some familiar ground

as you get more used to being solo, you can start to amp up the adventure, and also move off to less familiar and eventually unfamiliar ground

you got a lot of years ahead of you, you don't need to rush the solo adventures too fast.



I love going solo, but there are real risks, even relatively minor injuries become a bigger challenge when you have to deal with them on your own.

Also, maintaining the focus for the usually long hours of a solo adventure takes some time to get used to... having your mind wandering off the task at hand isn't something you want to happen.



have fun
climb safe

report back here!
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 19, 2015 - 10:49pm PT
Oh my Gawd guys...

Telling someone where I'm going and rough estimated time of return didn't even occur to me until I read your responses...

for super realz.

Garsh...! See what I mean about n00btatstic? Seems like I need you guys to keep sharing!

Cheers

LS

ps - susu, I'm thinking of it all except for the solo aid - I don't have the rack for that! heh. But yes to the rest! Gonna see what the clouds tell me and go from there ;)
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Aug 19, 2015 - 10:50pm PT
Absolutely leave arrival, departure, and route plans with someone and also in your car.

The west is pretty dry now. You'll want to be sure you can find water sources or will be carrying enough water.

If you are going someplace where there is cell phone service, bring your phone and a good backup battery. If there is no cell phone service, and you are going places where it will be really hard to find you, I'd consider renting a Spot personal locator beacon gadget ($34 for a week at http://www.satellitephonesolutions.com/rental/sps-rental-program/sps-spot-rental.htm ).

I know, seems like overkill, but I know someone who didn't do this, sprained his ankle in the backcountry, and triggered a massive missing person search, which was in the wrong place because he had deviated from his original plan.
ß Î Ø T Ç H

climber
/ ne'er–do–well
Aug 19, 2015 - 11:12pm PT
Nice little solo there Rob.
Flip Flop

climber
Earth Planet, Universe
Aug 19, 2015 - 11:38pm PT
I prefer the socially irresponsible approach. That way no one even thinks about looking for me. I can follow my whims and fancies without schedule or obligation. My focus stays in the present. That's why I go.

Totally misanthropic,I get it. But that's what I do.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 19, 2015 - 11:49pm PT
In the search and rescues that I often read about, where the person left info about where they are going and when to launch a rescue if they haven't been contacted,.....there is often a delay, because the adventurer didn't leave the phone number of WHO to call (which would be the National Park, or the Sheriff of the county where you will be). Direct numbers is best.

911 likely will go to CHP call center in Barstow, and they will take some time to connect your caller to the right agency.

susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Aug 20, 2015 - 12:10am PT
Be able to downclimb if ever soloing. Play Hansel & Gretel games. .. I mean play them better than they did. Don't get too lost. I know you are mighty, but about bite size for a mt. lion, so what are you going to do about that? Or a rattler? Ok, would you like to borrow The Spot? Thing about it... if ever having to rely on one, still prolly wish not to have to... and best to doubt their reliability.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 20, 2015 - 12:38am PT
leave the keys in the car so somebody else can enjoy it,

don't write any notes, if you break a femur, the lions will finish the job,

carry a suitable sidearm in case you run into the cartel way down under,

just take shoes, ropes will only slow you down,

smoke weed and get real paranoid, because...










































yer gonna die!

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 20, 2015 - 01:08am PT
What a pure-D difference from the Supreme witch of recent memory you are, LS. It is a matter of class.

Let me urge you not to speed, to take it slow, in fact; and to ride low when cruising to your destinations.

Enjoy your coffee, too.

How is your selfie technique? Got a stick? :0)

Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
Aug 20, 2015 - 04:18am PT
Some good tips here already....just don't do anything stupid....or if you do, don't cop to it.
I've done a bunch of things alone & I ain't dead yet. ....yet. Have fun!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Aug 20, 2015 - 04:33am PT
Solo works okay it's dealing with other people that's hard.

Making coffee/breakfast to watch the sunrise with, then a multi pitch free solo, then a bolt anchor replacement on one of my routes. Then I'll swing by my buddies camp and see if he wants to rope up somewhere.
Dingus McGee

Social climber
Where Safety trumps Leaving No Trace
Aug 20, 2015 - 05:03am PT
LS your biggest problem out West is likely to be Cowboys. Would bear spray work on these bad o'l boys?

It holds universally that you get to die only once. But then after that you have a chance to be Born Again.

The AA people say, And this moment too shall Pass.

My Advice: Monitor the gradients. Detect slip surfaces? Barbs will entangle you. Otherwise ShitHappens.

All these posts of advise are just mental Barbs you may carry for the crap of it.

hobo_dan

Social climber
Minnesota
Aug 20, 2015 - 05:29am PT
Well- you're probably not gonna--BUT going alone was always sort of boring for me so bring a couple of good books. Make sure you got some fleece in case the weather gets wet and cold
Good tent, dry bag? There you go.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 20, 2015 - 06:29am PT
I LOVE long solo trips in the mountains. You feel wild and free. It's wonderful to push yourself and easier to do so when your pace becomes your own.
Let others know your plans BUT don't bring a cell phone or other communication technology with you. Yes, you want to be connected.....to yourself and the wildness surrounding you.
The Lisa

Trad climber
Da Bronx, NY
Aug 20, 2015 - 06:47am PT
^^^^ +1
Group hikes and backpacks are fun but I love solitude too. I move faster and further while my mind can wander as it pleases.

Leave an itinerary/expected return time with someone who understands what you are doing and will know who to contact if you are long overdue.
MH2

Boulder climber
Andy Cairns
Aug 20, 2015 - 07:47am PT
Going out by yourself is a different experience. It would be nice if you tell us how you liked it after you get back.

I've done a lot of solo hiking, mostly just day trips, where I won't see anyone else. There are times when things could go wrong from an ankle sprain to a 500 foot tumble. Leaving a written plan of your route is a good simple way to allow for the chance of trouble.

In the last couple years I've started taking more just-in-case gear like warm clothing, first aid, food, and a big bright plastic bag.

One of our kids gave me a tablet and I now use its GPS tracking and downloaded topo maps for fun to see how far and where I went after I get back. Once I was surprised to be going downhill when I thought I shouldn't be. I checked where I was and the track showed me going opposite the direction I thought. I didn't believe the tablet of course but after another 10 minutes it was sticking to its story so I turned around and headed back. The tablet was right.

I also carry a device that can send text messages via satellite and which the tablet can talk to. I never used to bother, but am more sensitive now to what might make life easier for SAR.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Aug 20, 2015 - 07:48am PT
Dr Sprock gave gud advice but didn't caution you knott to start a signal fire when you get lost.

signed,
Cascade Solo Sucka. (them creevices are reallly scary sans corde)

ps
Prolly not sumpin you need concern yerself with for a few months but do remember to
NEVAH EAT NO YELLOW SNOW!
WBraun

climber
Aug 20, 2015 - 07:54am PT
When I was in high school I went solo everywhere.

Hitch-hiked solo everywhere all the time.

Even my mom would give me a ride to the freeway on ramp.

She never ever gave any lectures like the ones in this thread.

She just said have a good time and see you when you get back.

Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Aug 20, 2015 - 07:54am PT
I do quite a bit of solo alpine; as many have said, leave route and return times with someone then return on time, even if it means turning back. The things I worry about are breaking a leg or choking to death on food. Also, if you're allergic to wasps or bees, take stuff with you.

Enjoy the day.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Aug 20, 2015 - 09:11am PT
If you don't already know how, learn how to shoot a handgun safely and accurately.
A snub nosed 38 weighs less than a pound and is a great deterrent for most creatures, both 2 and 4 legged.

Firearms for day hikes aren't normally necessary, but only make sense for back country camping.
Especially for the fairer sex, imo.

edit:
It is legal to transport to and from, and carry firearms in National parks.
Know specific laws pertaining to transport and carry in different locations.
This info is easy to find on the web.
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 09:23am PT
Oh well. . . maybe she didn't need my "Road Trips for Dummy Lone Women" tutorial, afterall.

knott true!!

eKat, you're tutorial was great! And stuff that I'd pass on in a heartbeat to any of my female friends going on a loner trip. I'm not saying that this country isn't full of awesomely empowered and powerfully strong women, but reality is reality, and as a human who is significantly less physically imposing than the average mountain D00d, I know there will always be people who see women alone as a better potential victim/target than a man. This is about reality, not gender equality.

Giving the perception that I'm not alone, or only temporarily alone (i.e. going to meet up with peeps soon), is a great tip for the road. One I've used before. Even pretending to be talking on the phone has helped me in uncomfortable situations has helped me in the past. The point about the front passenger seat is a good one, especially when driving into particularly redneck gas stations/liquor stores as a non-white, under 5 4' female.

I may have experience traveling, but it's taught me that although men and women strive to be equal, there are considerations women have to make that men have difficulty thinking about....

For example d00ds - unlike you men, the world is NOT our piss pot. Only specific places! ;)

Cheers everyone!

LS
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Aug 20, 2015 - 09:25am PT
Wow, you must be doing the Evolution traverse or something!
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 09:45am PT
Seriously Burch!

Never been in the habit of telling people where I was headed to or when I was due to come back. Even when it was venturing out into the back alleys of whatever metropolitan urban wasteland as a wild child...less info spread around means less people get worried.

So many reasons. But it's not my default behavior.

Since I started climbing, I share even less, as many of my social network have very little conception of the world past San Jose to the south, Richmond to the east, and Marin to the north. Telling them 'where' is pretty pointless.

Friend - "what you doing this weekend?"

Me - "Thinking about heading up into the Sierras"

Friend "Sierras? So you're going to Yosemite?"

Me - "Uh...yeah"

I did have a close friend yell at me for not telling her any information when I went to meet strangers out in the middle of nowhere. She had a point and since then, I try not to meet strangers in the middle of nowhere......without telling anyone ;)

So thanks for the reminder folks!

Cheers

LS



ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 09:48am PT
Wow, you must be doing the Evolution traverse or something!

Naw Anita...I don't have the right fingerless gloves yet!!

But I do think I'll try out my new lycra leggings!!

Hee hee

Cheers

LS
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 12:34pm PT
Didn't y'all know that we're two distinct separate personalities?

...of the same human?!!!

Multiple personality disorder folks, the internet has changed the world for us!

The best part though is.....

We swap leads!

Cheers

LS
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Aug 20, 2015 - 12:54pm PT
what a dick
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Aug 20, 2015 - 01:03pm PT
Snark Bitch is me?

I've been called worse, I guess.
overwatch

climber
Aug 20, 2015 - 01:24pm PT
You are a little snarky, I don't know about the bitch part, that is just mean.
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 01:37pm PT
I didn't realize we could use the word 'bitch' on this forum. I figured it would be auto censored...

Wow, learning things every day!

Cheers

LS

'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 20, 2015 - 02:11pm PT
Now that you have sprayed all over this forum about what you think you're going to do, you'd bloody better do it, or your credibility will be destroyed forever.

Mini trip report due Monday morning here.

Dr. Piton's orders. ;)
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 02:19pm PT
I was thinking the same thing Pete.

Guess I can't default to doing my laundry or getting a haircut.

But then again, the weather is SO PURRRFECT that I suspect the Addiction will not let me do my laundry (which has been sitting in the laundry basket for a week) or a haircut (which won't looks especially different if I pass on a haircut).

:)

Shared momentum can be a good thing ;)

Cheers

LS
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Aug 20, 2015 - 02:32pm PT
You are a little snarky

You can judge for yourself next month in Yosemite, if you like.

Hey DMT, care to meet up around September 15th or so in the Valley? You can see if I am really so snarky and bitchy or if it's just my tough-guy internet act to hide my insecurities ;)

(edited to add a winkie cuz I'm not really serious!)
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 20, 2015 - 02:40pm PT
Not serious at all. She means Sept 12.

DMT = Craig - did you really call Anita a Snark Bitch?
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 20, 2015 - 02:53pm PT
Anita- what are you doing with those crabs in the above pic?
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Aug 20, 2015 - 02:54pm PT
That's not me!
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 03:03pm PT
Whoa Maaaan,

If yer gunna call out DMT, doing it on my thread isn't as effective as....

Putting it in it's own thread!

DOIT DO IT!

;)

Cheers

LS
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Aug 20, 2015 - 03:08pm PT
Don't you guys know this LS is a troll? WTF?
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 20, 2015 - 03:10pm PT
Get on with it!
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 03:24pm PT
Get on with it!

Step one, finish work for the week, step two, survive traffic.

(A sneak peek of the TR to come...HA!)

Cheers

LS
Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Aug 20, 2015 - 03:25pm PT
Man, I must be dumb. I thought this was a real thread. I got sucked into the Suprema Mt. Rainier thread and actually went up to Muir that Sunday. I had offered to meet Suprema at Panorma Point at 8:00 but was late. While descending from Camp Muir I passed a person with a kerchief over her face. It looked just like the one in a Suprema picture so I asked her is she was Suprema. Got a real blank look and then realized 'she' was actually a guy.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 20, 2015 - 03:35pm PT
Right....work and traffic, kinda forgot what they were. I suppose they can get in the way.
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 03:45pm PT
work and traffic are part of the gauntlet that those of us classified as n00btastic Newbs must face down in order to be inducted into the realm of Real Climbers. Everyone pays their dues, and Newbs from the Bay Area are required to pay more in the way of traffic. Must pay this much to ride the Ride.

When I'm feeling positive, both work and traffic are merely stepping stones to my way out to the mountains, just like the cup of road coffee and packing the Wyde Gear into my pack.

When I'm feeling less than positive, it can make a body wish for a strong drink!

But all in all, I'm lucky. I have the means, time, and desire. Plus I have encouragement! I'm even considering swooping some self belay gear now. You guys are such instigating influences!

Thanks everyone!

Cheers

LS
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Aug 20, 2015 - 03:51pm PT
thx Biotch. That area has some real nice granite. KLK won't divulge, but he's been out there a bunch too. Boulders down below that route in the pic got a lot of love over the last several years too. Far ride for an East Sider, but there's a lot of high rock to touch out there.
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Aug 20, 2015 - 04:52pm PT
I think it's pretty cool some think you're a troll.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Aug 20, 2015 - 05:34pm PT
Um, I've met and climbed with DMT and LS, both separately and together, on, I think, three occasions now. She ain't trollin' and she ain't him and he ain't her.

They're among the good people of the earth too, if that counts for anything on the internet.
Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
Aug 20, 2015 - 06:52pm PT
She's real. He's real (surreal?)...
All is well. Have a glorious time, LS.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 20, 2015 - 06:59pm PT
L.S. is indeed real. She once carried a pig to the base of Grape Race for me - so thanks for that, LS.

Now, shut up and climb.

Burch - damn, that Low T comment was funny. Poor Anita is pissing herself with laughter up in Montreal right now, just so ya know.

rgold - why can good people on earth sometimes be such cowards/dicks on the internet?
susu

Trad climber
East Bay, CA
Aug 20, 2015 - 07:04pm PT

They're among the good people of the earth too
For real
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 20, 2015 - 07:06pm PT
They're among the good people of the earth too

yep they are...
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 20, 2015 - 08:22pm PT
Sorry Anita.

But after doing a wall with PTPP...
It wouldn't have surprised me if you'd aged 20 years
and had handfuls of crabs DOH!
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 20, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
:)

LS
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 20, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
"But after doing a wall with PTPP...
It wouldn't have surprised me if you'd aged 20 years
and had handfuls of crabs DOH!"

Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!!
FrankZappa

Trad climber
Hankster's crew
Aug 20, 2015 - 09:13pm PT
I think a whistle is a good idea. I have one one the shoulder strap of my ski pack all winter. Goes in the pack during the summer.
If I were a chick out solo I'd consider a weapon of some sort or bear spray.
Dr.Sprock

Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
Aug 20, 2015 - 11:15pm PT
you know what the most dangerous thing you can do is?


trying to take a "selfie" from multiple angles while on the crux,
in an attempt to raise your self esteem by blogging out what a badazz you are, jus sayin, been there, WTF over?
rock is great, beer is good, people are crazy,


your still gonna die,
either by a kinematical death or in your sleep,
one hurts, one don't
helping others is your purpose in life,
who are you helping by doing the big splat?

everybody. it means more food, more gas, more toilet paper for us,
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Aug 21, 2015 - 02:53am PT
Go light. If you THINK yo need something, you don't. If you KNOW you need something, you do.
4:00 am here, heading out for the Wham Ridge 22 miles and lots of vertical......should be fun!
madbolter1

Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
Aug 21, 2015 - 11:27am PT
I bring a GPS populated with some nav-points from Google Earth. Then, also make a nav-point at the car.

It's amazing how turned around you can become in the woods. The one I use now is the Garmin Foretrex 401... highly recommended and quite inexpensive. Plus it's easily worn on the wrist and has amazing battery life.

SC seagoat

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
Aug 21, 2015 - 11:41am PT
Like you need advice? You could give it!
You are one of the toughest and soooo clever.
Rock on and then a trip report.

Susan
ladyscarlett

Trad climber
SF Bay Area, California
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 21, 2015 - 01:04pm PT
Thanks for the vote of confidence Susan. Roger that on rock and TR, fer sure!

That being said, evidence:

Oh my Gawd guys...

Telling someone where I'm going and rough estimated time of return didn't even occur to me until I read your responses...

for super realz.

shows that I still have so much to absorb, and the Taco is excellent when it comes to presentation!

Thanks for pushing this over 90 folks!

Cheers

LS

drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Aug 21, 2015 - 06:42pm PT
LS-
You mention your vehicle multiple times...but I assume you're not asking car camping advice.

Coffee?
Starbies Via.
Reduce your coffee kit substantially without sacrificing toooo much taste.
Purists will disagree and weight don't matter when it comes to taste.

I feel the same about electronic devices.
Some tunes, a camera, a beacon, all in one little package- worth the weight and minor space. Include a recharger or solar charger, and remember to set that sh¡t to airplane mode.
Load up your fave music, invaluable while cooking.
Take some sick selfies!
Load up some porn, or a pic of DMT's dangling modifier, and rub one out...in the great outdoors!!! Woohoo goodtimes!
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 25, 2015 - 08:12pm PT
She did so much talkin' ...


...now nothin' but crickets.
'Pass the Pitons' Pete

Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
Aug 28, 2015 - 02:43pm PT
Wow. So much spray, so little production.

Hey Lady Scarlett - so what did you do? Or didn't do?

Here is your McTopo Mystery Question of Day:

Who is replying "zzzzzzzzz" ?
Captain...or Skully

climber
Boise, ID or the fricken Bakken, variously
Aug 28, 2015 - 04:41pm PT
Buncha little grandma's, huh?....The Lady Scarlett is probably having a grand ole time out & about...we'll hear about it or we won't.
Just like that.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Aug 28, 2015 - 05:00pm PT
Going the loner way!
Great questions from LS:

 What are some tricks and tips you have for going Out There with your bad ass self?

Vigilance.
Measure twice, cut once.


 Do you go harder with no one around to scold you into some semblance of reasonable behavior?

I go more focused, faster, smoother, safer.


 Do you end up being more conservative because the lack of shared resources that comes with companions?

Yes.
But I accomplish more.
MikeMc

Social climber
Aug 28, 2015 - 05:14pm PT
I think we all remember what this guy used to say...

skcreidc

Social climber
SD, CA
Aug 31, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
^^^^^ I donno....she seems an intelligent lass. But I am anxious to here how it went!
overwatch

climber
Aug 31, 2015 - 02:02pm PT
Is that you, Burchy? Stonemaster farm team, pretty funny!

Edit:
The Warbler? himself?
GuapoVino

climber
Aug 31, 2015 - 03:47pm PT
Several years ago I was down in Copper Canyon Mexico and came across a woman in her 20's from Europe (Swiss or German I think) who was traveling solo. She had flown to Patagonia and was traveling via public transportation and walking up the west coast of the Americas as far as she could get before she had to fly home. She was hoping to make it all the way to Alaska but didn't think she would get that far. I was pretty blown away by that and always wondered if she had any trouble.

mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Aug 31, 2015 - 07:33pm PT
LS, if you ever get to meet Merry Braun, then ask her to tell you about her solo bicycle trip.

It was an awesome adventure.

And good adventures to you, too!

"Leave the lycra at home."
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Sep 2, 2015 - 01:43pm PT
Blazing Guy!

lulz
Norwegian

Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
Sep 2, 2015 - 02:07pm PT
i'm hoping to put an offer
on this sweet little dig
on the hill.
i need to sell my mansion first

94k but you have to hike to it; no car access.
390 s.f. a stones toss from
the river.

i want no companion,
well maybe a fair lady
that don't mind
celebrating the absurd
on a regular basis.

my realtor is an ex-sheriff
and he told me that if
i live here the judge won't
let me have my kids,

what the f*#k? only in America
is my dream a turd falling out
of reality's arsehole.

so it looks as though
i'll die lonely, too.

my story came out
all wrong; married a good
but incompatible girl,
got a good but suffocating career,
built a beautiful but debilitating home,
shared two beautiful daughters
with my world but my world is
unwelcoming.

i love stone.
we get along fabulous.
granite clefts
are my weakness
and my desire.
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