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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jimmy Carter is brilliant.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
Boise, ID
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That guy has Never gotten the credit he's deserved. He's a pretty smart and good dude.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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+1 Bump
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Yes, Jimmy Carter is right. The 2010 Citizens United decision and the 2014 McCutcheon decision must both be overturned for us to begin to have a democracy again.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Jimmy Carter, a wise and compassionate man. Someone who has dedicated their life to helping others, instead of helping themselves to a big piece of the company pie.
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pc
climber
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Nice article.
Agree.
Definition of DEMOCRACY
a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections
- The US is not one any longer.
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i'm gumby dammit
Sport climber
da ow
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He never called him an incompetent loser.
He said “He’s done the best he could under the circumstances,” Carter said of Obama in an interviewed published on Thursday. “His major accomplishment was Obamacare, and the implementation of it now is questionable at best.” He merely pointed out that the rollout of Obamacare was not going smoothly.
And Jimmy Carter is a great man, but was a horrible president.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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President Carter states the obvious... and his fans call him brilliant.
Nice standards.
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couchmaster
climber
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Folks say a lot about the guy, but I have not seen anyone impugn his integrity, unlike Geo Bush or Hillary. A rare political bird indeed.
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Dover
Trad climber
New England
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I think you might mean impune rather than impunge. Impunge means to prick, probe or goad. Impune refers to attacking or criticizing someone's character or intent, which seems more like what you mean?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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The coward in me wants to expatriate, but the fighter in me demands that I stay and fight for everyone to have a voice. Our society is messed up in so many ways, and I, for one, will take a stand to help the underrepresented make their voice heard.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Remember "I float like butterfly, sting like a bee, Carter ain't coming, so he sent me."
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Dover
Trad climber
New England
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Sorry CM - Brandon is right. Leaving the country is being an Expat. Repatriating is about coming back to the country after being away. He just wants to stay and fight for what he thinks is right. That's probably called just being a good citizen. You can get points for effort, though :)
On a more important point: Mr. Carter was indeed a rare political bird. He had incredible integrity, and more. I especially like his efforts at Habitat for Humanity after his presidency. I view him as someone we can all look up to.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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I worked with a client in the 90's that was on his secret service detail.
What he had to say was quite surprising and not at all positive.
The man is not the personae.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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What is Guinea worm disease?
Considered a neglected tropical disease, Guinea worm disease (dracunculiasis) is a parasitic infection caused by the nematode roundworm parasite Dracunculus medenisis. It is contracted when people consume water from stagnant sources contaminated with Guinea worm larvae. Inside a human's abdomen, Guinea worm larvae mate and female worms mature and grow. After about a year of incubation, the female Guinea worm, 1 meter long, creates an agonizingly painful lesion on the skin and slowly emerges from the body. Guinea worm sufferers may try to seek relief from the burning sensation caused by the emerging worm and immerse their limbs in water sources, but this contact with water stimulates the emerging worm to release its larvae into the water and begin the cycle of infection all over again.
Guinea worm is a particularly devastating disease that incapacitates people for extended periods of time, making them unable to care for themselves, work, grow food for their families, or attend school.
How widespread is the problem?
In 1986, the disease afflicted an estimated 3.5 million people a year in 21 countries in Africa and Asia. Today, thanks to the work of The Carter Center and its partners — including the countries themselves — the incidence of Guinea worm has been reduced by more than 99.99 percent to 126 cases in 2014.
Worldwide 2015 case totals: 5
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Dover
Trad climber
New England
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From 3.5 million to 5 in about 30 years. Carter was exceptionally effective. It begs the question, how come competent and inspired people aren't able to demonstrate their competence as president?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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I worked with a client in the 90's that was on his secret service detail.
What he had to say was quite surprising and not at all positive.
The man is not the personae.
Lets see, one of them is a hired gun and one was a US President who has done good all over the world.
I'll stick with Jimmy.
Besides, who knows what kind of skeletons your client from the 90's has rolling around in the closet? I'm sure his persona toward you is not exactly who he is either!
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Well, he basically lived with two first families and had polar opposite reactions to them even though his politics were a lot closer to Carter's.
At the time the client was running the security department for a very large multinational.
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Dover
Trad climber
New England
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Sorry about the wordsmithing, CM. I just like words.
You are right about Habitat For Humanity. I've always felt that HFH is one of the truly great American projects. Carter did that brilliantly (this, and his other projects is where his brilliance lies, IMO).
I've also always felt that JC is one of the great Americans to be alive in my lifetime, despite his difficult presidency. I certainly remember the stagflation years and Ayatollah Khomeini. They were pretty awful. But I will take Jimmy Carter over George W. Bush any day and every day.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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And Jimmy Carter is a great man, but was a horrible president.
In what way?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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In what way?
He picked up 7 points on the Misery index.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Sooo Some think he was BRILLIANT!???
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/02/epic-fail-now-jimmy-carter-is-calling-obama-an-incompetent-loser/
Well he is right on one thing. But he presided over the longest stagnation of our economy too. But he is right about Obama
@Ron, please go away. Or at least try to stop posting crap.
I read you stupid article, did you? It says, "Now, things have gotten so bad for Obama that former president Jimmy Carter has called President Obama incompetent in the family-friendly pages of Parade magazine."
Nowhere did Carter say that Obama was "incompetent" as your hit piece claims. How do I know this? Because I read the the Parade article, too.
So please go away, or at least stop posting your drivel.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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at least stop posting your drivel.
Good luck with that.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Ron said he was invited back.
Who the hell did that? Hard to believe.
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WBraun
climber
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America is full of brain dead zombies who have no real clue what's happening in the world these days.
The American media is brain dead zombies too.
Everything in America has devolved into stupidness.
Brain dead Americans trying to run the world and simultaneously destroying it .....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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The man legalized homebrewing,which singlehandedly started the microbrew industry.
He also approved subsidies for renewables,solar and wind .
HFH still remains large as of today. A great program.
Any of you donate your time ,skill and effort to build one single home for the less fortunate?
I doubt that.
A great man and POTUS.
What did your president do for you all?
Trickle down economics?
How did that work for you?
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Carter was a weak and ineffective President. The American people recognized this and canned him after one term, limiting the damage to four misery-index laden years.
As far as Carter being a great man, post-Presidency, I just don't see that, despite the media trying awfully hard to fashion an image of Carter 180° out of phase to his abysmal performance as POTUS. They've reinvented him like they have Slick Willy Clinton.
I will say this much for him--- I would probably much prefer him over the current leading creatures in the Democrat Party; even today ,at his age
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Ward Trotter
Trad climber
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Relative to someone like Obama or Clinton , Reagan was a towering figure of greatness.
Even Carter was of monumental greatness compared to those unholy two.
I remember seeing a video of Carter walking up on a stage somewhere shortly after Obama was elected and it was clear beyond a doubt in my mind that Jimmy did not like Barry. His body language spoke volumes. Obama looked like he had been pied in the face. Pathological narcissists like Obama are always floored when someone rejects them for being the frauds that they really are. Carter was not the stuff of which good Presidents are made but he is no dummy, especially when it comes to people.
Despite the dictates of party loyalty it nevertheless must be very difficult for Carter whenever he's forced to be around Obama---lest he lose the contents of his lunch.
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WBraun
climber
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Ronnie Raygun was smart president.
He went home at 5:00 PM like normal people and watched re runs of himself on television.
That's why he didn't get gray hair like all the rest ......
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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My two daughters met President Carter last week. President Carter is the most influential and "world-changing" ambassador of peace alive today. I am so very grateful that my two daughters can carry forward this experience of a lifetime.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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I voted for Carter BITD, but like I have with most presidents in my time, I got tired of listening to his speeches.
I have always admired his personal integrity, but he can get a bit sanctimonious.
I find it interesting, in today's political climate, how his religious beliefs get a pass from the usual suspects.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Reagan was a towering figure of greatness.
Ho man, that made me laugh. You must be some sort of comedian! Got any other knee slappers?
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10b4me
Social climber
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Reagan was a towering figure of greatness.
No he wasn't. Both he, and bush were the two worst presidents in my lifetime.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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But his standing improves every year, with good reason.
Sure thing. Polls among historians and political scientists consistently put Carter in the bottom half of the line-up. This year's American Political Science Association poll ranked Carter 26th. He was worse than Reagan Bush Sr. and Ford.
Go Jimmie!
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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I remember this time in history. Shoot, we even had a hostage release party with flags posted up all over the inside of the house, a live band (the Clam Brothers), and 52 kegs. The Reagan presidency made everybody feel good about our country again, kind of like our party. But the day after; whoa, what a hangover!!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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"He was worse than Reagun Bush Sr. and Ford."
So you are saying the above were bad?
Sketch you are satire.LOL.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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Reagan was a towering figure of greatness.
No doubt about it! His Contra policy lowered the price of cocaine in this country by half! Remember $15 8-balls? He was the unwavering conqueror of Granada! He slew Kaddafi's daughter! He cut and run in Lebanon after the Marine barracks bombing! He traded arms for hostages! He made a deal to sell missiles to the Ayatollahs to hold onto our hostages until election day! He was the only US president with the integrity to honor the dead of the Waffen SS unit that committed the Malmedy Masssacre! He was the epitome of integrity. Only 138 indictments of his administration officials!
And don't forget the economy! He created the Rust Belt single-handedly! It was the Reagan Economic Miracle: it was a miracle if you had a job!
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dirtbag
climber
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If you define success as changing the political debate in a way that favors your worldview, then Reagan was quite successful.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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And he engineered the collapse of the Soviet Union.
A sin that still provokes the wrath of closet Marxists.
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dirtbag
climber
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Nice try. The Soviet Union didn't need help from Reagan to engineer its own destruction.
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dirtbag
climber
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Anyway, you're confusing Reagan with Bush II, who engineered the destruction of Iraq.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Norton
Social climber
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what exactly are the criteria for barfing out that Reagan was a "great" President?
how about the US economy going into fvcking Recession under Reagan?
what about "spending"?
how about the the National Debt doubling under Reagan?
ever hear of Iran/Contra?
stop it, your ignorance is showing
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Norton...There you go again...!
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dirtbag
climber
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The sad thing is that he was still better than the tea party nuts he inspired three decades later.
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dirtbag
climber
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Cragman:
Benghazzzzzzzzzzz...zzzzzzzzzzz...zzzzzz...zzzziiiii...
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dirtbag
climber
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Considering you are openly willfully ignorant about climate change, I find it really hard to give your opinion any weight about anything.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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what exactly are the criteria for barfing out that Reagan was a "great" President?
how about the US economy going into fvcking Recession under Reagan?
what about "spending"?
how about the the National Debt doubling under Reagan?
ever hear of Iran/Contra?
"Facts are stupid things." -- Ronald Raygun
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Yeah, those were great times!
When Friday was the wrong day and you couldn't fill up it made for a no climbing weekend.
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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We cannot be both the world's leading champion of peace and the world's leading supplier of the weapons of war.
Jimmy Carter
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Norton
Social climber
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you guys really are ignorant sons of bitches aren't you?
horses ass
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Cragman bringing the racist side out, way to go good christian fellow.
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Dover
Trad climber
New England
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I suppose GWB was at so low a level the only direction was up but that Gallup Poll is disheartening. It reminds me of the way I felt the day after Bush was re-elected.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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“You underestimate the elastic nature of your country’s conscience. They have made a palpable shift since the oil embargo. American devotion to honor varies inversely with its concern for central heating. It is a property of the American that he can be brave and self-sacrificing only in short bursts. That is why they are better at war than at responsible peace. They can face danger, but not inconvenience. They toxify their air to kill mosquitoes. They drain their energy sources to provide themselves with electric carving knives [with the exception of that bitch of a farmer’s wife!] We must never forget that there was always Coca-Cola for the soldiers in Viet Nam.”
--Trevanian in Shibumi to Hannah, the starry-eyed "revolutionary"
Hannah comes back with this:
"Do you think it's fair to generalize like that about a people?"
Nicolai Hel replies:
"Yes. Generalization is flawed thinking only when applied to individuals. It is the most accurate way to describe the mass, the Wad. And yours is a democracy, a dictatorship of the Wad."
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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EdwardT...Alls that poll means is that the current flock of republican presidential nominees suck...Americans long for an easy to understand foreign policy like invading other countries and breaking the national savings account...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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The left says that if you disagree with a black man's politics, you're a racist.
Where has THAT been said?
That is what I disagree with completely,we all know where THAT has been said.
The Right has a true lack of realistic views,as above ,we know where they get it.
They are going to have a very hard time getting the centers vote.
Proven mismanagers.
What you listed earlier in this thread about Obama may have some truth in it but the ideology of the left has brought stability back to most people ,period.
You can wax what you like.
Cost of the wars we cannot get out of as of today:
4 to 6 TRILLION dollars.
Math hurts.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Brandon ,
jumping threads . .
the Gaum story is tragic
and this thread
and the other one on
POTUS Carter
Are threads that are tat to be cut away,,, ah, unless that poltard stuff floats your boat,
Dahlquist?
wow the is an name from the past,
In New Hamshire, at a school generated camp called Outpost,
there were three adults and one was a David Dahlquist?
I was not sure of the first name so I called LA and was told by a sister of mine (the Only one)
that Davids name was more along the lines of Distquie,
but your post rang that bell from
(and here again the family disagrees, but I say it was) - Summer 1976.
We hiked the Presidential traverse (both ways with low water rations) and rock climbed at Cathedral and White Horse, camping etc.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Cragman wrote: Sheesh.....I really feel sorry for you and your ilk, Bob D'A.
Such a tragic life you live, with all that bottled up anger and hate.
Very tragic, three great kids, married for 40 years to the same woman, live in Taos, NM, over 1,800 FA's, written 16 outdoor guides, been around world and I'm getting ready to retire. Very tragic.
You are the one who posted a picture of black man driving around a white woman, sorry for you on your lack of understanding of what when on in the deep south.
I dislike your hypocrisy, plain and simple.
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CA.Timothy
climber
California
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You remain unwilling to face facts...
says the evangelical christian
Bob, Cragman beleives in magic and the occult. Why attempt to reason?
He got his already, so f*#k everyone else.
let him be in his christian bubble.
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philo
climber
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If the sheet fits
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Cragman wrote: You remain unwilling to face facts.....but are so quick to call others nasty names.
Funny coming from someone who believes that Noah's Ark is real and the earth was created in six days by some "white" guy in the sky.
Al Sharpton has a job and really is more qualified to do more than drive a white woman around in a car.
Cragman wrote: Driving Miss Daisy is clearly a wonderful love story....about a black man and a white woman.....and how perfectly they care for one another.
And your post had nothing to do with what you stated above and you know it.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Yep, he's really good at slander, tax evasion and extortion.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Very tragic, three great kids, married for 40 years to the same woman, live in Taos, NM, over 1,800 FA's, written 16 outdoor guides, been around world and I'm getting ready to retire.
Yet, you seem to be hanging on to a lot of hate.
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Norton
Social climber
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Yep, he's really good at slander, tax evasion and extortion.
sigh, why do you vote Republican, TGT, if breaking the law is such a big deal with you?
Why just yesterday the top law enforcement official in Texas, Republican State Attorney General Ken Paxton surrendered to law enforcement after being indicted by a Grand Jury of multiple FELONIES
Paxton faces three criminal charges – two first-degree felonies for securities fraud and a third-degree felony for failing to register with the state to sell securities.
Paxton is accused of having defrauded two individuals of more than $100,000.
http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/local/texas-news/2015/08/03/ken-paxton-surrenders-felony-indictments-unsealed/31053069/
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Eddie wrote: Yet, you seem to be hanging on to a lot of hate.
Coming from you that is really funny.
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philo
climber
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EdwardT I've no idea who you are or think you are but I do know BobD and I'll tell you straight out he is one hell of a good man. No where near the hate filled person you imagine and assume. He just calls em like he sees em and doesn't put up with stupid sh#t. And trust me there is a lot of stupid sh#t and stupid shiters that sh#t that sh#t around here.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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I could care less what Edward T (sketch), Cragman or Ron think about me. Their right wing nut bullshit is really what is wrong with this country.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Well at least Paxton didn't incite a riot that got seven people killed.
7. In 1995, an African-American Pentecostal church in Harlem, New York, asked a Jewish tenant of one of its properties, Freddie's Fashion Mart, to evict a black-run record store that was subletting part of the property. Sharpton showed up outside Freddie's vowing to a crowd: "We will not stand by and allow them to move this brother so that some white interloper can expand his business."
Two weeks before Christmas that year, Freddie's was attacked by a man in the crowd who shot several customers and then set fire to the building with a flammable liquid, killing seven employees. Sharpton subsequently apologized for his "white interloper" remark, but vehemently denied responsibility for the violence.
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couchmaster
climber
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Phil, is that one of your cartoons? Very skillfully executed.
Like!
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philo
climber
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No Couchmaster I wish it was.
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couchmaster
climber
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Phil, you have real solid drawing skill, you might consider putting a few up based on your beliefs and perceptions. Take one of your classic Ron Anderson rants (any one of the hundreds haha) except don't write it, draw it:-)
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philo
climber
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It would be better that way. Less people get pissed at cartoons.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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I have my own God Dean, I don't need your help or your God. Your God is too conditional. No Gays, No Muslims, No Jews, and so on.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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never known anyone to take such delight in being such a tool...
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Norton
Social climber
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I shall pray for you too, Bob.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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You really are creepy Dean.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Cragman, can you get this guy to pray for me too and how much will it cost me?
And what are your going rates??
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Transcript:
HARTMANN: Our Supreme Court has now said, “unlimited money in politics.” It seems like a violation of principles of democracy. … Your thoughts on that?
CARTER: It violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president. And the same thing applies to governors and U.S. senators and congress members. So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over. … The incumbents, Democrats and Republicans, look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves. Somebody’s who’s already in Congress has a lot more to sell to an avid contributor than somebody who’s just a challenger.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-unlimited-political-bribery/
Jimmy Carter is correct, the Conservatives changed this Country into a Oligarchy, the GOP voters are whipped up into a frenzy over wedge issues and vote for these people that sold their souls out for money and prestige.
It's our worst nightmare come true, and it's on the backs of every Republican Voter, you caused this, you let this happen, you still support it by being a sucker for the lies they tell you about how they will work on your personal wedge issue (scam).
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Cragar
climber
MSLA - MT
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Some folks feel that their beliefs make them better people....
It is your behavior.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Holy sh#t.
:-)
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Serious now Dean...pray for Ron...no kids, no wife, plays with dead animals, hate muslims, hate Hillary, Bill and Obama and loves to kill living things.
Funny how you don't feel the need to pray for him and his type.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Do you pray for muslims to become christians? Or gays to become un-gay?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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What is it and how do you know that it the truth? Fact or faith?
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dean wrote: Over the years, I've tried so many different avenues to find truth and happiness. Alcohol....sex.....wallowing in grief and pity over loss. I even tried to elevate climbing as the source of all greatness for MANY years.
I never did any of that Dean, I been loyal to my family, been with my wife since we were fifteen, never tried to f*#k over anyone, gave without expecting anything back, accepted people for who they are (muslim, gay, black, white, yellow, christian) and you have balls to judge me and pray for me.
You sound like you were a self-centered spoil kid.
Climbing never was source of greatness for me, it was fun...period.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dean wrote: I pray for you, because I'd love for you to know the truth.
Dean wrote: I don't judge you, Bob. Not my gig.
Yes you did.
I know and live the truth Dean, it just doesn't line up with yours.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dean wrote: But...you persecute me for my faith.
No I don't I disagree with your faith, I think it is mis-directed.
Let it go and give your prayers to Ron...I'm doing OK.
My father, Jimmy Carter and MLK are people I admire greatly.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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He loved me unconditionally, just like mother, he showed me what it took to be a man and take care of your family and other human beings and other living things.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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this place could use some sharks. and more cowbell.
OK no sharks so how about Manta Ray
and more COWBELL
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Being honest. :-)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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When I asked lynn if I should move to Lee Vining she said No, no explanation, other than that it was a small community, but now I think I know what she meant
Intolerance .
Bob , Please , you are above this crap
(fox-ite,Brainwashed bush Flag wavers unite sh!t)
and if it is a matter of who or which one of you contributed more to the world of climbing, you both will have to wait till your dead, and then your legends will be HERE! is this what the two of you want to be remembered for?.
Dean, I do not think you care who I am, and I feel a lot of what you say comes from a very fine place.
I am very conservative for a tree hugging, Ganja 'moking, liberal voting, fox bashing, O'riley watching,Long lasting YoYo, a climbing fool. ,(like my old pal the philli flyer-,Boltin' Bob -man we picked on him for stuff That you would lionize him for)
I do not make any pretense about it. Climbing is being a YoYo,
any thing more, as Bob said Is in our own heads.
Climbing will not save your life any more, it did in the past but that was then.
I get it , the crowd that is inheriting your play ground is made up of a people that learned to climb in a gym. their appreciation and desires are different. They want it all; safety 1st, no risk
if possible and Cell phone reception, for Internet use at the cliffs. ! talk about killing adventure, would Thor Hyadal have taken a satellite phone with him just in case?
Not what we thought would take our place but here they are.
If either you or Bob met me you would be at my throat not each others, for elfin G-D's sake look at the small rock hell I dwell in. ./. . and rejoice in your Luck at having been there all the time that you have.as good as it gets^ . ^ .^ .^ .^
the worst I've seen
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Thanks Gnome, your honest writing is refreshing.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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My favorite is when the godders start with a little story about their long list of life mistakes and misguided judgement. And we should listen to you why?
Jimmy said that while he was president that we didn't shoot any bullets or start any wars. Now that's my kind of Christian. A man who follows Jesus' Sermon on the Mount. Not like the White-Muscular-gun-totin Christians that we enjoy today.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dean...move on please.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Flip wrote: My favorite is when the godders start with a little story about their long list of life mistakes and misguided judgement. And we should listen to you why?
My point from the start, Dean is late to the party, some of us have been living pretty true for a long time.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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And we should listen to you why?
because nothing else worked besides finding their imaginary friend in the sky.
That's why!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Dean posted this and he thinks it's about love between a black man and white woman.
No hate in him, he is way about the fray.
Sorry Dean...one last post on this issue.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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"Bless your wicked/dirty little heart sinner!"
Hubert had a good heart and he was at least entertaining. I never saw him smoke. Did see a little smoke coming out of his ears a couple of times.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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I believe in karma, always have.
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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I believe that people have imaginations not bounded by reality. I believe that religion will end when parents stop indoctrinating their children to fear eternal torture in hell by an arbitrary and capricious sky lord. Inshallah! (thats 'God Willing' for all you latecomer Euroserf godders.)
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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That is problem, you are a sinner and must repent. I'm human and make mistakes, I try to learn from those mistakes and move on as a human being, gaining knowledge leads to a better understanding of living and dying. it is what and how you do it between the cradle and grave.
I do tell them if you haven't notice Norton. :-)
If that helps Dean and others deal with their demons and shortcomings...who am I to judge. :-)
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Bob I just Thought Of Jack Mileski, how sad that country song turned out to be. The man was a beast and a saint all rolled into one. I bring it up only because he was a God fearing man. It led to loneliness, and his searching and climbing was all that he had, I loved him for his out of the mold thinking and laughed along with everyone when he went to "mow' his folks lawn.
Did Geno or Jeff ever tell you he was also going home to go to mass, to be matched up with a suitable, Christian girl? He would pick me up at 4:30 am from the side of the hi-way at the Dunkin' Donuts.( on RT 17 know where i mean?) and drop me off again, Saturday/Sunday after midnight.
It was another thing to try to climb with him and Jeff. wow! I can't find the Picture so IT never happened! I Just happened to be there,. . . both times. . .seems more from small rock hell is in orderAnd I clean up like apogee,has
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Science has done more to make the world a better place that all religions combined.
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Norton
Social climber
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Don't you ever, ever, tell your own child that "miracles" ever happened
don't lie to them and tell them there really is a Santa, Easter Bunny, or that they really
do have a Friend in the Sky who watches them, keeps track of what they do and say
and decides if they burn in hell or get to join mommy and daddy in heaven
It is now 2015 and we now have real, honest to goodness explanations as to why there is
such terrifying things as thunder and lightening
and we no longer need to bury a live child head down in order to stop the thunder
we no longer need to make up stories about gods punishing us to explain the natural world
scream it from the mountaintops, tell them to just STOP THE GOD BULSH!T
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WBraun
climber
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What a nutcase ^^^ .....
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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that was excellent. thanks norton.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Gnome, great shot of Rich and Russ, I had so much fun back in the 70's at the Gunks.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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I am a Christian.
I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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I am a recovering Catholic.
I believe that religion is responsible for more violent deaths than all of wars.
I believe that faith gives me a path to get thef*#k away from you godsquaders and have a life.
LTFOL
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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As if we didn't already know who the evangelicals were.
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Norton
Social climber
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of course you do
you have the undeveloped brain of a child
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Ron,doesn't that piss you off?
Comedy.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Hillaryous.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jimmy CARTER: It violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it’s just an oligarchy, with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or to elect the president. And the same thing applies to governors and U.S. senators and congress members. So now we’ve just seen a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect and sometimes get favors for themselves after the election’s over. … The incumbents, Democrats and Republicans, look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves. Somebody’s who’s already in Congress has a lot more to sell to an avid contributor than somebody who’s just a challenger.
https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-unlimited-political-bribery/
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Rong wrote: Your just a noisy ass gnat that needs squashed.
What are going to do tough guy?
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Norton
Social climber
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got him right where you want him, again
that was so easy
spitting, frothing at the mouth
barfing out his emotional ignorance for all to read
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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An accomplishment that has fostered peace for over 35 years; few others, if anyone today, can match this.
For those who forgot, got hooked on Fox, or were too young, Google: "Camp David Accords"
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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I believe that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life.
When I was very young I believed that if I put the tooth that had just come out under the pillow, the tooth fairy would come and take it when I was asleep and leave me a quarter.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Jimmy was a little bummed after he found out that Reagan had treasonously made a deal with Iran for them to hold the hostages until after the election.
I would be bummed, that's for sure.
But for Reagan to use the money from his weapons sales to Iran to fund an illegal war in Central America???
and for his admin to sell crack cocaine in LA for supplemental funds to support their illegal war!!!!!!111666
All factually documented of course
It's astounding!!! They should all be in Jail.
and these current idiots worry about Hillary's e-mails and Benghazi...
I will never understand how some people can be so duped.
What have the repubs ever done for the vets? or anyone??
Nothing, it's just take take take, and then blame the failure of the Gov. to respond on something else.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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I have faith I will win the lottery.
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Clever campaigner, saw an opportunity now one else did and grabbed it. Bad President. Perhaps some part of that was luck but a good deal of it was Carter. Not above stretching the truth - despite his sanctimonious public persona - and flirted with some Southern racists when it was politically expedient in Georgia to do so. You might say so what, or some variation of the "everyone does it argument," but the man and the image were quite different. Very bright, obviously, but a narrow, limited view of the world.
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DanaB
climber
CT
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When I was very young I believed that if I put the tooth that had just come out under the pillow, the tooth fairy would come and take it when I was asleep and leave me a quarter.
You left us all hanging.
What happened?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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You left us all hanging. What happened?
What happened? Well I started getting quarters, and my faith was almost confirmed. Then I woke up one night when my mom was taking away the latest tooth and leaving a quarter.
We had a good laugh, and I learned a valuable lesson.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Thread drift...the OP was about Carter's assertion that the US is no longer a democracy. Regarding Citizens United, he said:
It violates the essence of what made America a great country in its political system. Now it's just an oligarchy with unlimited political bribery being the essence of getting the nominations for president or being elected president. And the same thing applies to governors, and U.S. Senators and congress members. So, now we've just seen a subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors, who want and expect, and sometimes get, favors for themselves after the election is over. ... At the present time the incumbents, Democrats and Republicans, look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves. Somebody that is already in Congress has a great deal more to sell."
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Ron really stinks up the place. It was so great when he left. One turd ruins the soup.
And don't mess with Santa. The fat man lives inside you. He ate our cookies for our sins.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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One turd ruins the soup
Gee, why do I doubt that if Jimmy Carter was speaking face to face with Ron he would feel
compelled to resort to third grade rhetoric to make himself feel intellectually superior?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Everybody is equal in the eyes of God.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Everybody is equal in the eyes of God.
+ there is no god
= no one is equal.
there is a Santa
= Everybody is equal in the eyes of Santa...Hallelujah
(new math)
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