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Banquo
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Amerricka
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 1, 2015 - 06:31pm PT
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So, I'm spending a week in S. Tahoe with a large family gathering and hope to do some climbing. I have a niece who is a ballerina with the NYC ballet (CORPS DE BALLET). I don't think she is "outdoorsy" but she is an awesome athlete and certainly has good balance, strong legs, high strength to weight ratio and strong toes. Any opinions as to whether such a person would be a good rock climber? I'm guessing she will be awesome (which of course she is) on the rock but I really have no idea. I've asked her if she would like to try and she says she is game.
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philo
climber
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Don't let her start it will only make you feel weak and insignificant when she flourishes.
I was a performing dancer during some of my best climbing years. Climbing and dancing are extremely compatible.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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I'm surprised she's game. I've known several professional dancers and they were all extremely careful about any physical activity with the potential to injure them for dancing. The risks coming from dance itself are very substantial, and the dancers I met, with careers on the line, had no interest in adding to that inventory.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
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Oh, She's game and tougher than any 10 climbers I know.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Philo...Pole dancing isn't usually considered traditional dance...rj
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I love Philo....but the image of him pole dancing is only something Cosmic could photoshop.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2015 - 07:34pm PT
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Philo:
12712 forum posts
11 photos
No trip reports
I'm sorry but not a player.
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philo
climber
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Banquo you have no idea.
There was a time during the ten years I've been posting here that I had hundreds of climbing pics and original climbing artwork and 'toons, original stories from FAs in Red Rock, JTree and the Black Canyon as well as more than 10 very popular TRs with hundreds of comments and tens of thousands of views. But unlike you and I most forum posters do not bother checking into a posters contributions and before they condemn them utterly for making fun of ammosexual gun nuts. So I purged all the contributions I'd made except for my forum posts. I don't care if you can't be bothered to find out my history before dismissing me. Most of my detractors had little or no positive climbing content. No matter.
So are you a player?
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pell
Trad climber
Sunnyvale
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I would say a lot of. Both dancing and climbing are about discipline, whole body strength and endurance, and precision of movements.
Every time I see smthng like
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or
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I think about physical, mental and technical skills of those dancers and how those skills are similar to rock climbing ones.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2015 - 07:53pm PT
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So, I don't know who Philo is - clue me in.
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Edge
Trad climber
Betwixt and Between Nederland & Boulder, CO
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I took a year of ballet and tap when I was 8; my Mom said I was the strongest dancer at the recital.
Eight years later I took those skills to the mountains and became a fairly competent vertical dancer. That early exposure to dance began my tight shoe fetish.
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philo
climber
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Banquo I'm no one and nothing. Just a broke down has been wanna be from the dark ages.
But I'd did used to dance and choreograph.
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Fossil climber
Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
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Back in the Eocene when I was running YMS I'd sooner have a dancer for a student than almost any other athlete. They're a natural for anything requiring balance, agility, lower body strength, and an analytical approach. Most of the guides loved dancers too - but often for other reasons.
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MikeL
Social climber
Seattle, WA
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Best climber I ever climbed with was a dancer. Beautifully elegant, courageous, a centered spirit, and a real control of his body.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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A dancer who took up climbing at Sqaumish danced off a ledge and dropped 90 feet...
...fortunately into a mudpond. Dunno if it was her dancing skills or divine intervention that let her survive that one without serious injury.
Most of the guides loved dancers too - but often for other reasons.
Good one, Wayne.
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Not all cyclists are like you.
Which is a good thing, or every Emergency Ward in North America would be so swamped with broken bicyclists that there would be no room for anyone else.
Maybe if I'd been a dancer or a gymnast, I could have vaulted over the cars that...
...oh, wait...
No cars were involved in any of the many times I rode my bike into an ER...
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philo
climber
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Having been simultaneously and avidly involved in climbing and dance made me better at them both. The biggest difficulty I faced was dealing with the freak out the director of the dance company would have every time I go do a big wall in the Black Canyon before every opening night. Made me a better dancer but made her a nervous wreck.
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philo
climber
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At the funeral for my best friend and climbing partner his brother referred to his skills as a "Vertical ballet of the soul". Always loved that resonate phrase.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2015 - 08:12am PT
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Wow, I feel like I tipped a sacred cow and triggered a shitvalance or something. Geez, even Tami is upset with me. "Not a player" must mean worse than I thought - I better check urban dictionary.
Philo - I am sorry if I have offended you. I perhaps assessed you too quickly and leapt to an unfounded conclusion. I will read all 12,000 posts as penance.
Tami - Peace. Please.
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philo
climber
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Banquo relax you didn't offend me you amused me. Don't waste your time I'm insignificant. Just an opinionated loud mouth.
Understand that some other posters with no real contributions to show have gone after me in knee jerk lock step for my unpopular stances on hot button issues. It's all good and as it should be.
I come back and post when I care about a subject like Jeff's health or Wayne's condition or help needed in Nepal or currently trophy hunting poachers. I also post up when it's a subject I have experience with like this one. It really riles the rabble to see me here.
And for the record I love, love, love Tami.
From afar of course dagnabbit.
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philo
climber
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Thanks Tami. I want to talk to you about anew dance I'm choreographing for Jeff and his new chair. Love to see what you thought of the imagery.
Come on Jello hang in their the dance world awaits your debut.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I met a blondinka ballerina at a climbing camp in the Soviet Union BITD.
I was totally ready to defect.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2015 - 11:13am PT
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I had to think up something more appropriate than the usual reference to a shitstorm. A storm seems like an unavoidable act of god. One can trigger an avalanche and cause their own demise. Note that I got the spelling wrong.
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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Congrats to your niece. The New York City Ballet is a pretty rarified atmosphere. She must be an amazing talent.
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Banquo
climber
Amerricka
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2015 - 05:45pm PT
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Ksolem -
We are very proud of her. She has worked full time towards this since she was 4. She has lived in NYC since she started high school so we don't see much of her. Most people, especially guys, can't relate to what she has achieved. There are about 750 Major league baseball players and about 1700 players in the NFL but probably less than 100 dancers in her league. Perhaps it is like making quarterback in the NFL.
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philo
climber
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Banquo that is a mighty achievement your niece accomplished. She is among the elite and I honor the drive and commitment it took. Please tell her from a man who understands just how incredibly difficult it is.
Dancers at that level have my utmost respect and admiration.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Back at Whipp's Ledges, in OH, where I got started climbing, there was a problem called the Hard Man Traverse. A woman, who was a dancer, came along and did a low version, called the Smart Woman Traverse. I was always impressed by her technique and balance, and I tried to learn those things as a beginner. It's something you can always improve.
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Pewf
climber
Gunnison, CO
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As one who regularly gets the privilege of looking up and marveling at some of Philo's FAs, knowing I ain't got a prayer of clawing my way up, I sure wish I'd stuck with those dance lessons my mom put me in bitd.
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Pewf
climber
Gunnison, CO
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That black bug head sticking out of my chocolate... it was shiny! Gyack. I always thought I was made of tougher stuff until I spit that thing right the hell out into the trash.
Good to see ya Tami!
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philo
climber
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On Ballet.
Dance when ready.
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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It was my secret weapon, I would run a mile and a half to dance class and two miles home afterwards.
The need to move and exercise in teenagers is well known.
The body is changing, growing and the stretching and form
that is achieved through dance helps the body grow into it self, with balance and poise.
Now once I was a 'all grow'ed up' rock climbing dude,
I taught the ropes to those I thought cool.
They are tuff and un-witheringly so, in the face of rude and lewd gawkers.
Slight of build often, and willing to wear Lycra and get tied up before sending,
Exotic dancers are fun rock climbing clients.
The company I worked for, until the strippers paid better, was far to stuck in an old 'painters pants and rugby shirt' mindset. While the method was excellent the clients had more fun just
Climbing and flashing the dudes at the belays, it was fun!
Years and years ago but it was the best gig on the planet for a horn dog climber with dreams of the Ditch.
(The whole west really)
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jgill
Boulder climber
The high prairie of southern Colorado
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Message I received from BURT BRONSON and was asked to post:
MEN, PUT AWAY YOUR PENNY LOAFERS AND TUTUS AND RETURN TO THE ROCK. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WATCH AN EPISODE OF DANCING WITH THE STARS.
BB
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Mark Rodell
Trad climber
Bangkok
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Didn't Bev Johnson have some dance background?
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philo
climber
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Diana Hunter was one of the best free climbers of her day. She was also a fantastic ballet dancer.
This is an early ascent of the difficult climb Wide Country on the Bastille in Eldo.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Muscle strength,
Muscle control,
Range of motion,
Balance,
Limber,
Discipline,
Lots of crossovers.
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