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overwatch
climber
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Jun 12, 2015 - 12:20pm PT
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Yeah, I don't know why they would buy it otherwise. If they do I would use it even less than I do now, which isn't very much. So, see ya, mp!
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Jun 12, 2015 - 12:41pm PT
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Who cares if they advertise? That is the price of free websites. REI bought MP for the traffic, lots of traffic of REI's demographic. A pay wall would just encourage a competing site to pop up overnight. As guidebook authors know, the actual route info can not be copyrighted.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jun 12, 2015 - 12:45pm PT
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MP= bottom feeder.
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HighTraverse
Trad climber
Bay Area
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Jun 12, 2015 - 01:30pm PT
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cmac's holding out for $1B......
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jun 12, 2015 - 01:32pm PT
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I have found the mountain bike side of it to be decent.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Jun 12, 2015 - 01:36pm PT
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MP= bottom feeder.
Curious why you say that, Bob.
I find the site a decent resource especially for travel outside my local crags. And, even local crags.
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Radish
Trad climber
SeKi, California
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Jun 12, 2015 - 01:47pm PT
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Mountain Project has a treasure trove of info that we've all given quite freeily and readily. It could be made into guides and sold pretty easily. We've done all the work, all you need is someone to get it together. So, I hope that we all don't let that kind of thing happen to sites that have all this stuff!! Hell, I have my own site that makes me no mulla but I'm hoping for tips....http://southernsierraclimber.blogspot.com/
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Jun 12, 2015 - 01:56pm PT
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MP sucks because they let that annoying troll Eleanor post her crap...wait oh snap. Never mind.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jun 12, 2015 - 02:08pm PT
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Curious why you say that, Bob.
I much rather see the public support guidebooks.
They take information from users and profit from it with little to no return for the providers.
Just my opinion.
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Lurkingtard
climber
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Jun 12, 2015 - 02:14pm PT
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I thought that's where Stewart Green does all his "research" for his guide books. He knows what's up.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jun 12, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
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Moose...1800 plus FA and still counting...all out of my pocket and many hours doing trail and route repair but good try.
And most of the millions I make on books go back into buying gear/bolts/hangers/anchors. :-)
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mtnyoung
Trad climber
Twain Harte, California
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Jun 12, 2015 - 03:24pm PT
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Bob,
I think Moose was joking, it just didn't come through in the post. No intelligent person actually believes that guidebook authors make any significant "profit" at all. And Moose has always seemed intelligent enough to know that.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jun 12, 2015 - 03:50pm PT
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I did Moose, we just paid off the house on my earnings from the Boulder Canyon guide. :-)
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 12, 2015 - 03:56pm PT
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Yo Bob, come visit....bring the missus. Nice summer climbing here in the shade at 8000 ft.
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Jun 12, 2015 - 04:23pm PT
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This is kind of surprising. REI tried to have a forum back in the late 90's and it didn't work well for them so they bailed.
With all the work the community did to build that route database, it makes me wonder how it can be sold (ethically). If REI takes it and builds more into it then we all benefit from this deal, so I'll remain positive for now.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jun 12, 2015 - 04:39pm PT
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That is the sh#t the owners laid on me when I asked that my photos and routes (just my FA's) be removed. They said I wasn't being part of the community.
LOL
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Jun 12, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
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I hope they nix the "freshy project" or whatever the hell their bc skiing version of MP is called.
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10b4me
Social climber
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Jun 12, 2015 - 06:19pm PT
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What would Mike Morley say?
Edit: Mike actually created the predecessor to Mtn.Project.
Climbing Jtree, and various iterations, depending on location.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 12, 2015 - 06:46pm PT
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Does this make Blitzo the most prolific photographer in the REI pantheon?
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Gal
Trad climber
going big air to fakie
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Jun 12, 2015 - 06:49pm PT
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Oh wow yes Jaybro! Absolutely!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 12, 2015 - 07:03pm PT
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Cool!
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Maeday
Trad climber
San Francisco
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Jun 12, 2015 - 08:02pm PT
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Maybe rei needs more beta on what kind of climbing gear to sell on their shelves.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jun 12, 2015 - 08:04pm PT
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It might be insider trading (watch out), but REI is also looking at Spanx, check it out.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Jun 13, 2015 - 06:41am PT
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MP sold to the lowest bidder.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Jun 13, 2015 - 06:54am PT
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Wow! Somebody bought my content! I feel ... valuable.
Good thing I love REI. The co-op spirit prevails. They hire useless climbing bums and put them to good use. Don't even give them sales quotas.
Now route information is a part of the co-op.
Next up: Pump up the Access Fund.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Jun 14, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
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I am with Bob 100%. putting half assed route descriptions on MP or plagerizeing the real ones from a guide is lame. If you don't support real guide books all you will be left with is free crap.. Additionaly if you have to actually spend money on the book it thins out the herd a bit makeing for a better climbing experience.
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Prod
Trad climber
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Jun 14, 2015 - 02:24pm PT
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I always buy the guide books. And I always look at MP.com.
Curious to see what REI does with the service though. I will most likely immediately stop using all of the sites if they start charging.
Prod.
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dpotter05
Sport climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Jun 15, 2015 - 11:31pm PT
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Quality info is in the guidebooks. Newest info is in the route databases.
Bob D'A can I ask why you had your info pulled?
For what it's worth, I just saw an email from MP announcing from June 15 to June 30 they're matching access fund donations up to $50,000. Very awesome.
David
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Jun 16, 2015 - 09:37pm PT
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REI takes business away from local gear shops.
This idea is spreading and it's kinda lame. REI was a local gear shop and they did well and expanded. Sounds like good business. Quality stuff and an unbeatable return policy.
They also support a ton of great non-profits.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jun 17, 2015 - 10:29pm PT
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And now a word from our sponsor....I'll vouch for Cosmic...He's as mentally stable as me...
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coolrockclimberguy69
climber
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Jun 30, 2015 - 01:56am PT
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lol REI is capitalizing on all my comprehensive and informative route descriptions that i submitted back when i gave a sh#t
"DESCRIPTION: go up the crack on the sheer rock face"
"PROTECTION: standard rack"
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jun 30, 2015 - 04:19am PT
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Tad, technical not, that's Plottsylvanian, not Russian. Though they are clearly related 😀
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