Trip Report, Norman Clyde Peak, Twilight Pillar, 9/2/06

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Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 7, 2006 - 12:03am PT
Trip Report, Norman Clyde Peak, Twilight Pillar, 9/2/06
I went up the south fork to Finger Lake the first year I started climbing. I had signed up for a trip to climb North Palisade, Mt Sill and Thunderbolt. The trip leader noticed I had no mountain climbing experience but he said I could come on the trip if I got over 13,000 feet three times before the trip in early September. My first peak was to be Mt. Shasta. It seemed like just a big snow hike so I decided to carry my downhill skis so I could ski down. That year on the Clear Creek route the snow ended at 13,000 feet and the scree began. Cramponing in ski boots is OK but climbing scree in them isn’t. I found out a couple of things on that first trip. These mountains are huge. Hey, who knew! Also that my body usually gives me a choice on summit day, I can climb or I can eat but not both. Skiing from 13,000 on Mt Shasta is still a pretty good day. We hike out to the nearest café. I ordered what looked on the menu like the biggest burger they had. I must have been a little out of it- it was vegitarian!
My second trip was the East Ridge of Mt. Humphreys. My partner and I had together taught ourselves to lead over the previous six months. It took us all day to climb the initial class 4 knife-edge ridge. 17 pitches. By 6 PM we had reached the notch just before the class five started. We retreated. We did manage to get over 13,000 feet while climbing the tower on the ridge.
Finally on Middle Palisade I got to the top of something. No crampons, ice axes or ropes. Just fun cruising on class three rock. I was looking forward to returning to the scene of my first success. I remembered it as a spectacular area.
We picked up two of the last three permits on Saturday morning and started hiking near midday. Here is a picture looking up canyon after crossing the river at Glacier Lodge.
Some cool trees at the top of the first big rise.
Looking up at Middle Palisade and it’s glacier.
Brainard Lake is just a beautiful lake. I took a million pictures of this lake and they are all good .You can just see the Twilight Pillar in this picture.
We camped with a few other parties at the end of Finger Lake. We woke up around 5:00 and were hiking by 6:00. Bob has this cool Jetboil stove. Man, the thing can boil water quickly.
The route goes around the left side of Finger Lake and then climbs class 2/3 for 1,500 feet. Here’s Norman Clyde Peak and Middle Palisade during the approach.
Here is Norman Clyde Peak. The route goes up the pillar that drops straight from the summit.
The standard route goes across the glacier and climbs a 5.7 pitch. We didn’t bring snow gear so we crossed to the Firebird Ridge far to the right where the snow was narrowest. The climb to the ridge is fun fourth class. I took this picture of the Palisade Crest as we made our way along the ridge.
As we crossed below the snow field and started up toward the pillar I was really feeling the altitude.
Parts of me, I think it was my heart and lungs, was thinking, “You are really crappy at altitude. You are going to move too slow and have to bivy on the descent.”
Other parts of me, I think it was my brain and legs, was answering them, “You pathetic wimps. It’s not even 9:00. You are strolling this thing!”
Sometimes there are way too many voices in here.
Anyway, the approach was steepening as we neared the rope up spot. Pretty continuous and exposed class four. Maybe not quite Eichorn class four, but steep. I got to a section that was a little more serious but I was in the groove so I started up it just as Bob called down. “Hey, I missed the start of the climb.” He had climbed the first 25 feet before noticing. He was in the groove too. He threw down the rope and I tied a bowline, for the second time ever, and climbed up to join him. Don’t do what we did. The start is from a big platform. We had to change shoes, put on our harnesses and sort gear on this little ledge. We started the roped climbing at 10:00.
We brought 3- #2, 3-#1, 3-#.75 and 3-#,5 Camelots. We had one each of the five smallest Aliens and a set and a half of stoppers. We had a 60 meter x 9.2 rope. I used a cordalet and Bob used a big tied sling for the belays. This rack was pretty good. Maybe it could have been smaller but I climb faster when I have enough gear. I took the first pitch, which turned out to be the crux of the climb. You stem and jamb a corner until it runs out and then climb the crux 35 feet of 5.8+ cracks to a nice ledge with a fixed pin. I used up most of the rack. About half way up I realized I was moving slow enough that my lungs had caught up with the altitude. I shouted out my appreciation for the day and Bob smiled up. Here’s a picture from half way up the first pitch.
Looking down from the P1 belay.
The supposed 5.8 crux traverse goes right around the corner from the belay. It just didn’t seem that hard compared to P1.
Here’s a posed shot from the P2 belay trying to look like the photo in the Sierra Classics Guidebook.
There is one more hard move on the climb which is mentioned in Secor. Bob led up that way. I climbed a few feet to the right, which was much easier. More pics of the route.
We summated at 1:45. It was a outstanding day. Here’s a view toward Mt. Sill and North Palisade from the summit
Yours truly with the cool summit register
Bob, smiling as usual
The last party before us to summit were Dingus Milktoast, Brutus of Whyde and Nurse Ratchet. Hi Guys.
The descent felt really long. We descended the North-Northeast Ridge route, which is the recommended descent. It’s a little hard to figure out the best way. I think we could have stayed a bit closer to the ridge. We kept getting coaxed out onto the face. This goes but the route line in Secor shows the best path as closer and more parallel to the ridge. Bob found a bunch of booty. A hat, a pair of rain pants and a sixty foot piece of 8 mil. rope. We got back to camp at 7:00. I was pretty beat and lay down for a while to rest before dinner. A couple of guys, who we had met on the approach came over to talk about the day. They had retreated off of the East Face of Middle Palisade, from altitude problems mostly. Bob made his dinner and chatted with the guys while I lay there like a lump. Later I heard him tell someone “it was the first time with Zander when I did most of the talking”. Hmm, what is he trying to say?
Eventually, I just went to sleep without eating. We had a great day for the hike out. Here is a picture of this beautiful little lake that I particularly like.
We feasted at Jacks in Bishop.
See ya on the rock,
Zander



Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 7, 2006 - 12:37am PT
Thanks for the report Zander.. great pictures of a wonderful section of the Sierra... I just love that place, need to get back! Hopefully next year..
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Oct 7, 2006 - 08:18am PT
Nice trip report and pics. It's a striking line from a distance fur sure. When Big Al Bartlett and I did it a few years back, we thought it was a heck of a lot of hiking for 2 pitches of good climbing. That being said, it is a nice part of the Sierra.
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
St. Louis
Oct 7, 2006 - 10:45am PT
Thanks - great TR. Yet one more place to dream of...
Gary Carpenter

climber
SF Bay Area
Oct 7, 2006 - 06:03pm PT
Another great TR. Thanks for posting Zander.

Gary
alpine410

Mountain climber
Big Trees California
Oct 7, 2006 - 09:21pm PT
Did you use a rope on Middle Pal? I found that route scary, and wanted a rope but did not bring one. I guess it would have knowcked down all the loose stuff anyway. Bad ass report, strong work!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 7, 2006 - 09:44pm PT
Zander,
Your Steck Salathe TR plus this one make a nice pair.

We climbed the Thunderbird Wall as kids (when we were kids).
It is in the cleft to the left of Twighlight Pillar, but it's ugly so we trended left into some clean 5.7/8 cracks.

Berg Heil!
Tarbousier
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 7, 2006 - 11:39pm PT
I know this is going to blow the width wide open, but it is about one of the most spectacular sections of the Sierra.


Finaly got Middle this year but screwed up the photos. This is from a previous attempt.
Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 8, 2006 - 01:58am PT
Glad you all liked the TR.

Can't say,
It is a long way to go for a few pitches. That is if it's judged as a rock climb. Judged
as an adventure the long aproach is part of the spice. I've read that one can make
the climbing harder by going staight up the pillar instead of traversing. Every pitch 5.9.

Alpine 410,
We didn't use a rope on Middle Palisade. I wish I taken a helmet though.

TGT,
Can you reduce your super cool picture to the same width as mine are. Then put a
link under it that jumps to a new thread with the full size picture. That way you can
both read my report and see your picture. As it is this thread is not really readable
and my Mom hasn't read it yet.

thanks,

Zander
LuckyPink

Mountain climber
north bay today/someplace else tomorrow
Oct 8, 2006 - 03:30am PT
nice tr.. think I'll take a hop down there. thanks for the post. L
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 8, 2006 - 12:34pm PT
Here's some fun history concerning these routes:

Page 215 of the old green Sierra Club Totebook of the High Sierra by Roper lists Thunderbird Wall, 5.7
In the back, under FA's:

T Bird Wall, Hank Abrons and Pete Carmen, 1965.
The Twilight Pillar was by Don Jensen and Frank Sarnquist, 1966.

What's fun for me, if I have this right (as I was into making rucksacks and stuff in the 70's), is that we have Peter Carmen - of The Chouinard Carmen Supergater, and Don Jensen - of Rivendell Mtn Works & The Jensen Pack & Bombshelter tent...
SamRoberts

climber
Bay Area
Oct 8, 2006 - 01:34pm PT
I still own- and use- a Rivendell Jensen pack. It's 30+ years old now and, unlike its' owner, still going strong. Great ski pack.
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 8, 2006 - 01:47pm PT
I found one at a yard sale in boulder; the interior coating was badly flaked so I pulled all the seams for the pattern.

It awaits a rebuild & phoenix flight...
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Oct 8, 2006 - 01:49pm PT
Zander, you're right in that distances can add spice to good climbs, but if you experienced the approach to NCP like we did, you might have come away with a similar feeling.

Unfortunately for us, we forgot the deet and decieded to sample a certain kind of spore that makes one's head light and errr, spacy, yeah that's it, spacy, for the hike in.

So on the approach in, after ingesting said spores, we run into the most god-awful cloud of skeeters. They tormented us all the way to camp. OMG, it was the only bad trip I've had on those rigs.

Anyway, the climb was fun but the approach sucked big time for us.

As for the climb, I was wondering why your shots didn't look anything like what we climbed. We did two steller pitches of 5.9 and 10a, with the 10a being some really nice and spicy face climbing.

Again good tr and report
Flex

Trad climber
Flagstaff, AZ
Oct 8, 2006 - 01:59pm PT
A friend and I hiked in to do some glacier practice below Middle Pal in 99 and were chased out by the skeeters. 2 of us and a dog spent a night out (no tent) and were eaten alive! 3 warm bodies for 3 trillion bugs to munch on in the whole S Fork of Lone Pine Creek. Bring full-on Canadian-style bug battling gear!
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
Oct 8, 2006 - 03:03pm PT
Same here.

As it was the 70's and we knew no better, we climbed TBird in full mountain boots, while the second followed carrying 2 pair crampons and two axes, which made free climbing kinda pumpy.

We descended the N Face, got to camp totally spent, having planned to hike out the same day, which was sunday afternoon of a weekend blitz from LA. We stayed in camp because we couldn't budge and the skeeters where horrendous.

The next day, a scheduled work day in LA, we hiked out under supplemental assistance, got to the car and played a track from Jimi Hendrix' Loose Ends over & over...
TYeary

Mountain climber
Calif.
Oct 8, 2006 - 09:23pm PT
Very nice Zander. Thanks for a great TR.
Tony
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Oct 8, 2006 - 10:20pm PT
Strange that the jensen packs came up. I think my Jensen pack has been to the top of every Teener except one.

That is still the most comfortable summit pack ever made.

A super light Spectra and Polarguard version might not be commercially viable for the masses, but I'd pop for one.

Good clean looking route. Think I'll have to go back and get it.
goatboy smellz

climber
boulder county
Oct 9, 2006 - 02:39am PT
Stellar TR!

That Brainard Lake kid must have gotten around, we have one in our outbackyard.

426

Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Oct 9, 2006 - 08:19am PT
Nice TR, good pix...best way to do the descent is very "zig-zaggy" IMO.

Zander, I'm curious, is Chris Brown's stuff still there? It was on the N/NE/Firebird ridge this summer, right near a clearly "circuitous" section on the ridge where it flattes ~800 yards below where the routes split.(?) Trek poles, prescrip glasses, some other swag. Duffel looked kinda faded...

I love the 'last move' on NCP (from the "easy" side). Thought about Norm doing it-a bunch of times.

Sweet shot of the Crest...
Mick K

climber
Northern Sierra
Oct 9, 2006 - 12:55pm PT
Great TR
Phil_B

Social climber
Hercules, CA
Oct 9, 2006 - 03:09pm PT
Way cool Zander.

Thanks for the TR. I gotta get out onto real rock. . .
Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 11, 2006 - 01:30am PT
Hi folks,
DMT,
yeah, the "class three" is pretty wild. On Middle Palisade the only "class three" move we could find right below the top was about 5.5. Good times.
Can't Say,
I guess your point is made by the feeling I have that I won't go back just to do the harder variation.
Lucky Pink,
Give us a trip report when you get back from up there.

Went to Pinnacles on Monday. Almost nobody there. Nice. Led Stupendus Man, which was a long term goal. see ya,
Zander
Zander

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2006 - 03:42pm PT
426,
We didn't find Chris Browns duffel. I could see how a duffel might stay up there a while. Who would want to carry it down?. It's intereting how many "developed" bivies there are on the descent. I used to think that all the nice bivy spots I've seen way up on Sierra peaks were from people running late. Now I'm starting to think that maybe there are folks who intentionaly spend the night ontop. The bivies sites are just too nice.
Anybody here been seeking out high summit bivies?
Zander
Nohea

Trad climber
Aiea,Hi
Oct 13, 2006 - 04:45pm PT
Great TR!
I have surfed plenty of waves, sailed around the state multiple times, done over 1000 dives, hiked every trail on Oahu, and golfed every course in the state (well almost). I have been here in Hawaii for 16 years and am finally getting tired of it. The mountains are calling.
I have been bugging my wife for the past few weeks to move, she gives me a half OK, so I find her a couple jobs on monster, one in Colorado, one near Santa Cruz. She has a career, I make due. Finally last nite she told me to knock it off and for me get a job there, she’ll make due.

See what you started.

Aloha,
wil
426

Sport climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Oct 13, 2006 - 07:16pm PT
Thx zander. It was a weird cache, looked temporary but I didn't see hide/hair of anyone while I was up there.
pc

climber
East of Seattle
Oct 19, 2006 - 02:17pm PT
Thanks Zander. Excellent TR.

And Congrats on Stup. Man. Fun mantle.

pc
JOEY.F

Social climber
sebastopol
Oct 19, 2006 - 09:55pm PT
Inspiring TR-thank you.
From my visits to the Sierra, I find this the most compelling area. The photos take me there, nice!
I'm waving to you from Mt Silly.
Best,
J.
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