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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 23, 2015 - 02:32pm PT
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Memorial day is not about sales at Megamart. It's not about the fact that you get an extra payed day off. It's not about BBQ's. Memorial day is about respecting and paying tribute to the men and women who are, and have been willing to serve and die for the very rights the rest of us take for granted.
Thank you all for your service.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2015 - 02:40pm PT
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I'm bumping this one because it's important.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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May 23, 2015 - 03:16pm PT
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Salute!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 23, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
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crankster
Trad climber
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May 23, 2015 - 05:44pm PT
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Amen, rlf.
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o-man
Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
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May 23, 2015 - 05:51pm PT
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overwatch
climber
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May 23, 2015 - 06:32pm PT
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I will add my thanks and thoughts to those that have made and will make, the ultimate sacrifice.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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May 23, 2015 - 06:39pm PT
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Veterans Day is for everyone that served. Memorial Day is for those that gave it all. Everyone should see Memorial Day in DC once in their life.
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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May 23, 2015 - 07:15pm PT
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Well said Robert
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Josh Nash
Social climber
riverbank ca
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May 23, 2015 - 08:18pm PT
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Veteran's day is for those who've served. Memorial Day is for those who are never to return home. It was remembrance day for all those young lives sacrificed during world war one. It was later adopted to be a reminder to the nation, of those who've made the ultimate sacrifice in all the wars. During this weekend, drive by a cemetery and notice all the flags on graves. Those flags are those who've served and died.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2015 - 08:30pm PT
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As far as I am concerned, there's no difference between the two. All who served deserve our appreciation.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 23, 2015 - 08:35pm PT
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deleted my posts because survival is correct.
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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May 23, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
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Thanks Robert - the men and women who put their heart, body and spirit into the service of their country.
They deserve our appreciation and respect. Always.
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rlf
Trad climber
Josh, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 23, 2015 - 08:46pm PT
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There was no need to do that nature, there was nothing inappropriate about your post.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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May 23, 2015 - 09:12pm PT
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Josh and survival are 100% correct. I'll repost in November.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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May 23, 2015 - 09:30pm PT
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hey there say, ... a deep thank you for the memory of all that served, and me, well, i like to mention the vets, as well, due to the fact of this:
they lost many a friend, that never came back and i always feel that they have a sadness that they will not get over, due to that, :(
they live with that, all their days, even though they are deeply grateful that they did come home... it is a hurt to have left a comrade in arms, behind, :(
hugs and prayers to all the families that experienced any of this, and all of this, in any way... :(
you are all remembered, amen...
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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May 23, 2015 - 11:10pm PT
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A big bump for those that selfishly serve and protect our country.
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HF
climber
I'm a Norwegian stuck in Joshua Tree
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May 24, 2015 - 05:52am PT
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Bump, and thank you all.
HF
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 24, 2015 - 08:58pm PT
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10b4me
Social climber
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May 24, 2015 - 09:12pm PT
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Memorial day is not about sales at Megamart.
+1
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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May 25, 2015 - 10:08am PT
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in memory
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cragnshag
Social climber
san joser
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May 25, 2015 - 10:24am PT
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A couple of nice video tributes today only at www.usaa.com
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 25, 2015 - 10:34am PT
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Condor Squadron flying over the nearby cemetery...
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Sula
Trad climber
Pennsylvania
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May 25, 2015 - 10:37am PT
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Risk
Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
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May 25, 2015 - 10:47am PT
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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May 25, 2015 - 11:30am PT
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Yes, the last full measure.
70 years ago, with the war in Europe over, we were still in the middle of the deadliest battle in the Pacific War, Okinawa.
Think of the 29th Marine Regiment, many hundreds of men all casualties save for 60.
This day is poignant for me also because it is the 30th anniversary of my father's death.
Count your good fortunes and know they were bought dear.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 25, 2015 - 11:53am PT
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TO THE WORLD A SOLDIER
TO US ALL THE WORLD
Epitaph on a tombstone at the World War II Allied War Cemetery, El Alamein, Egypt
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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May 25, 2015 - 12:08pm PT
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Nearly 1 million American military personnel have died in Wars if one counts both sides of the Civil War. Horrifying but also an amazingly powerful thing that has allowed us a better place to live than most in the world. It saddens me that to this day so much is required of so many just to live in relative peace. At least within our own borders.
I don't really understand it all, but I deeply respect what we have been given and what it cost.
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steveA
Trad climber
Wolfeboro, NH
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May 25, 2015 - 12:11pm PT
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Too many people in the USA take for granted what our veterans, and the soldiers, who didn't make it back, did to preserve our basic liberty. I think of WW2, in particular, since the threat was very real.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 25, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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May 25, 2015 - 10:57pm PT
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... those that selfishly serve ...
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jonnyrig
climber
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May 26, 2015 - 04:04pm PT
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Just wanted to take this opportunity to remember those who have fallen, and say thank you to those who have, or are now serving.
Thank You.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 26, 2015 - 06:12pm PT
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May God bless all who died in the service of this country. And God bless those who took their places in the current service to this country.
Brave and selfless. You gotta respect that.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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May 29, 2016 - 09:43pm PT
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We are eternally grateful.
We will never forget.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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May 29, 2016 - 10:10pm PT
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^^^Yes!
Let's also remember rlf today
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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May 29, 2016 - 10:29pm PT
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A tribute to our wonderful warriors, who hold up standards of courage, chivalry, and loyalty.
Bless them, those who came before and those who serve now and those who are to come.
feralfae
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 30, 2016 - 03:52am PT
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Definitely not proud of my service, nor of my country's involvement in that war. We as a nation really need to rethink the whole militarism and war thing - for the most part it does not well serve either us or our interests.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 30, 2016 - 07:18am PT
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Definitely not proud of my service, nor of my country's involvement in that war. We as a nation really need to rethink the whole militarism and war thing - for the most part it does not well serve either us or our interests. More than 20 years after resigning my officer's commission, after 10 years active duty service in combat arms, I generally feel the same way. Back then I was itching to kill the enemy, loved to be deployed to hot spots around the world. Now I am rather disgusted with the whole affair.
Many friends - dead.
The person whom I used to be - dead and gone, lost forever.
I've spent the last 20 years trying to find that nice young man who was in my mind and body before he went MIA in the military.
God damn it all.
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feralfae
Boulder climber
in the midst of a metaphysical mystery
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May 30, 2016 - 09:41am PT
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I hear you. Doug resigned his commission as well. And war does not work, obviously. Yet, there are young people who go into service holding idealistic visions of saving people and saving their freedom. There are others who go into service to defend the part of the Earth we call our country.
I don't think Doug ever entirely recovered from his two tours in of active duty. He had terrible nightmares, horrible to even think about. The idealistic young man who set out the be the best officer, the best leader, the best of regular Army, became disillusioned and despairing before he finally resigned. His anger at what he considered a "racket" stayed with him. He was not proud, but ashamed, of the war in Asia. Worse yet, he was the 7th Cav:,it was his unit, which had killed many of my people in battles in the Dakotas and Wyoming and Montana, back when they were still territories, not states. We talked about that a couple of times. His feelings were so mixed: he was proud of his service and doing his duty, and taking care of his men. But he was ashamed of following orders against innocent farmers working in their rice fields.
I thank those who have protected us, perhaps in Europe against HItler, perhaps in other places, too. But yes, most war is political and leads only to cultural destruction, trauma, rancor and the accumulation of wealth by those in the military/industrial/political complex.
How do we honor those who did their best to serve with honor, and yet continue our work to effectively end war? This is a very Quakerly question, and one I ask myself often.
feralfae
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 30, 2016 - 10:19am PT
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At the Merced County Veterans' Memorial Park in the dawn's early light.
No greater love...
It's hard to forget the politics, though.
And the tragedies.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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May 30, 2016 - 11:16am PT
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hey there say, feralfae... i remember and cherish, all that you shared about doug... :(
thank you for sharing, here...
say, there are good solid words, here:
How do we honor those who did their best to serve with honor, and yet continue our work to effectively end war? This is a very Quakerly question, and one I ask myself often.
feralfae
prayers for comfort, to all that have lost these men,
that sought to do their duty, where they were sent,
and helped the only way, they could, then and now...
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c wilmot
climber
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May 30, 2016 - 11:37am PT
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memorial day at this point is just another propaganda tool
the US has not fought a just war since Korea
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10b4me
Mountain climber
Retired
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May 30, 2016 - 11:46am PT
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the US has not fought a just war since Korea
+1
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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May 30, 2016 - 04:58pm PT
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"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."--variously attributed to Patrick Henry or to Voltaire
Freedom is not just an idea. It exists here due to the efforts of millions of my fallen brothers=in-arms.
To express dissent from the herd
With a discouraging word,
Is the first not the third,
Amendment to the Bill of Rights, ya...unspoken expletive.
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jstan
climber
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May 30, 2016 - 07:07pm PT
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As I was loading my truck at Home Depot a tall elderly man who seemed to have an air of consequence about him approached me saying "I have locked myself out of my car. I need to get back to Joshua Tree." I said, "As it happens that's exactly where I am going."
From our conversation on the way to JT I learned he had been a Marine posted to the South Pacific during the Second War. When we got to JT I told him when he had his key I would take him back to Home Depot. He thought I was being over generous, but I demurred.
I told him, "Assisting you in this will be an honor."
Cars sometime break down so I followed him till he got home,
I still feel honored.
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F10
Trad climber
Bishop
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May 30, 2016 - 08:18pm PT
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RIP Robert, a trooper of a different type but still respected.
Thanks for a tread for those who deserve respect for what they did !!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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May 30, 2016 - 08:28pm PT
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RLF, God bless you, sir. Rest in peace.
Everybody else who puts their personal ideology above a service-member's duty to kill other people is either a pussy or a coward. War will be fought whether you like it or not.
May God bless all those who defended this country when asked.
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Karen
Trad climber
Prescott, AZ ~
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May 30, 2016 - 08:46pm PT
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I just want to honor and give respect for a man I am currently working with. He is 94, was a pow of the Japaneese for three and a half years was grossly mistreated. He does not harbor any grudges, he has let it go.
Also, respect and honor for my deceased father who fought in the Pacific theater, he suffered from PTSD and suffered for the rest of his short life.
My deepest respect for all who served and lost their lives.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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May 30, 2016 - 09:16pm PT
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hey there say, karen... what a sweet share... thanks for sharing your heart...
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Memorial Day originated from the American Civil War as "Decoration Day", starting in 1868. "Decoration" as in decorating soldiers' graves with flowers.
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