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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 4, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
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Just came across this on the ol Facebooks. It was posted just a few hours ago. Thats reeeeely covering some dirt fast.
Anybody have some details? Rad run.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2015 - 12:40pm PT
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Wow, did he run up Snake Hike?
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Doug Robinson
Trad climber
Santa Cruz
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Congratulations, Dean!
Very creative path. I would not have thought of it, yet seeing your line every inch makes perfect sense.
The speed with which you executed it, though...YOWZAH!
DAMN, Man. You're an inspiration. Just stay safe up there. Not worried about your awesome skill -- not at all -- or your capacity for split-second focus either. Just sayin'
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Pretty cool.
The fastest known time for the regular trail is 2:23:51.
http://fastestknowntime.proboards.com/thread/264/half-dome
Hans' page shows that Dean Potter previously did Snake Dike car-to-car in 3 hours. (1998)
http://speedclimb.com/yosemite/
Maybe also similar is Royal Arches (car to car) 57 minutes, by Dean Potter in 1998. Cedar Wright then did it in 52:26 in 2000. I think they descend the "gully" between Royal Arches and Washington Column, but that's a faint recollection.
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Ed H
Trad climber
Santa Rosa, CA
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Very impressive
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Wow, only a 5 min difference with tons more semi technical climbing involved.
There is a much faster way through Broderick canyon than skirting liberty cap to the trail.
Prob gain at least a minute.
Lightning fast record.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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This seems a little weird to me.
Timing yourself on a trail run, then advertising "I'm the fastest".
zzzzz
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atchafalaya
Boulder climber
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Wow! That's really cool. Timed runs have been around a long time, and are kinda bullshit on non-established routes. But that is a proud effort regardless. Good for Dean laying down such a fast time on such a burly "run".
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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I'd say its "established" now.. lol
Seems like a damn solid benchmark to me.
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Impressive.
You can't do it officially but stash a BASE rig at the visor and you could shave it to 1:25 CTC ;-)
Add:
I don't think it's contrived at all. CTC times are a well known benchmark for many alley objectives. If you can find a faster path have at it IMO, just report it honestly as he did. As Clint mentioned it's enabled faster times on Royal Arches.
It's not just about saying "I'm the fastest" it's also saying here's a cool new timed line, try to beat it if you can, or see how fast you can do it.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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The fastest known time for the regular trail is 2:23:51.
So he beat this time by about 5 minutes after lobbing off considerable mileage through short-cutting. I wonder what even a mediocre climber (~willing to solo Snake Dike) with a bit of real running fitness would do? Hans? Haha...
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Where's Leor Pantilat? He'll shave an hour off that time and take a million pictures along the way!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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So he beat this time by about 5 minutes after lobbing off considerable mileage through short-cutting. I wonder what even a mediocre climber (~willing to solo Snake Dike) with a bit of real running fitness would do? Hans? Haha...
I'm not so sure that going cross country with some 3rd, 4th and 5th class can really be considered a "short cut." Extra distance on trails is often easier than the so called short cuts.
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Eric Beck
Sport climber
Bishop, California
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My first trip to the Valley (1960?) we got the bright idea that we were going to spend the night on the top of Half Dome. I am still in my bag in the morning and hear a guy way out of breath exclaim "1 hr 47 minutes". He was just wearing shorts and drenched in sweat. This was Bill Woodruff, a friend of Dave Rearick's from Cal Tech. He had just broken Warren Harding's record. Bill had cycled to the Valley from Pasadena.
So, does anyone know what Warren's old record was?
Very nice work, Dean.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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I'm not so sure that going cross country with some 3rd, 4th and 5th class can really be considered a "short cut." He a took a huge shortcut over the hiking trail. If not, then why not pick up the record on tourist trail, should be a piece of cake!
I'm about to break the FKT between my office and the toilet. It's never even been attempted by anyone but me.
Really - this whole euro Kilian Jornet thing is BS and faded here in the US even quicker than it arrived. Nobody cares when you're out there setting your own courses that likely nobody could repeat but you w/o some kind of highly detailed track info. Even if the course caught on, it would likely be quite destructive.
It's cool, congrats, the Long's Peak record was set the same way - but really, I'm more impressed by a true measurable athleticism - something repeatable - no tricks. Go try the Half Dome trail and see how you stack up against that record - it's for real.
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mooser
Trad climber
seattle
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Whoa!
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WBraun
climber
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I've gone down the yellow line before and it might even shave off more time?
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I think there is room for two records. The trail, with no shortcuts, and to the summit and back by any means.
The first is a measure of trail running fitness that is easily compared to others. The second quantifies fitness, boldness, athleticism and ingenuity.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Amazing. Ansel Adams went up half that route in April '27, LeConte Gully to the Diving Board, got that famous Monolith shot of Half Dome.
News to me, guess he didn't brag much.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2015 - 05:00pm PT
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I agree with Donini. "Fastest to the top and back." The epitome of going hard, to the top, then running back down. What could be more fun and worthy than that. I'd post a time too if it were me. Its fun to know how fast people do things and serves as a benchmark for like minded people who might try later.
All the people who poo poo this as bragging or spray are just jellyous cause they be slow.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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I think the official record should be from Curry pizza bar to Curry pizza bar. :). That would add 30 minutes easily.
I'm suprised his shortcut saved him time given the bushy and semi technical terrain.
How old is Dean now?
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
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Dean Potter spray is as finite as death and taxes.
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Wow that is a long way to go by human power in a couple of hours
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Matt's
climber
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wouldn't it be faster to do it all via the death slabs?
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Super cool. That is a smoking fast time, very impressive. I'd like to hear more of Dean's unknown exploits. He has blown us all away so many times with his major ones, I am sure there are a few that would be jaw dropping that we don't know about. Keep it up Dean, you da man baby.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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"Real Running Skill" is trumped by speed on 3rd, 4th and fifth - trust me, if it was easy to be faster, people would be faster. Assuming the climbing itself from base to summit is 30 min, that leaves like 40 min to get to the base of snake dike... that dude is an aerobic MACHINE.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Nice work!
It is a clear route, from base to top and back...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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He should name a kid Harold.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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Topic Author's Reply - May 4, 2015 - 08:39pm PT
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Good point GDavis. I wonder what his time on Snake Dike was.
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enjoimx
Trad climber
Yosemite
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Where's Leor Pantilat? He'll shave an hour off that time and take a million pictures along the way!
That dude is solid! I follow his facebook.
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
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Damn nice hike. I've been thinkin about that route for years. Maximum fun!
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cuvvy
Sport climber
arkansas
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Wow! Incredible! Tell us more!
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Freakin' ridiculous!
Any word on where here started/stopped that's more specific than "the Valley floor"?
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Death slabs to the base of the cables might be the ticket.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Batmanning the fixed lines would disqualify you IMO.
Death slabs to the base of the cables might be the ticket.
What about batmanning the cables?
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Good point. It should just be "as#@&%es and elbows" to the top and back by any means.
It's sad to see the trail running aspect fading into obscurity tho. : (
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Any word on where he started/stopped that's more specific than "the Valley floor"? Leconte gulley actually begins very near the John Muir trailhead at Happy isles - that is probably why Potts chose it.
I did it to Diving board in the 70's, but as an all day slog, and using aid.
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brett
climber
oregon
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I think there is room for two records. The trail, with no shortcuts, and to the summit and back by any means.
The first is a measure of trail running fitness that is easily compared to others. The second quantifies fitness, boldness, athleticism and ingenuity.
Mountain FKT's are route independent, fastest way to the summit and back. The runners would take the shortcuts if they could.
I wonder if Dean could challenge Rolo's Grand Traverse time? If he's interested in the hybridization of mountain running and climbing, it's pretty much the gold standard.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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The runners would take the shortcuts if they could. No, not any more than a climber grabbing every quickdraw and claiming a redpoint. You'll get DQ'd in an American trail race.
"FKT" means nothing until it's repeated.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Challenging Rolo's Grand Traverse record....that would be interesting!
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Roxy
Trad climber
CA Central Coast
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wild!!!
wonder if Whisper was on this outing?
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Sheets
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Great route by Potter.
Seems like the FKT on Half Dome is low hanging fruit if you're a good trail runner.
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raymond phule
climber
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"FKT" means nothing until it's repeated.
Interesting, so there are thus not a single FKT in ski alpinism because everyone takes at least slightly different ways up the mountain?
What is your problem with having records that doesn't require a special path to be run? I remember that you were also angry about killian taking a short cut on the grand teton.
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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^^^ On that Olympus run I counted 19 cuts going uphill, so did he have 19 cameramen, run it 19 times, or was his cameraman able to pass him 19 times? ;)
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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^^^ Yes.
Ha ha.
His time is pretty astounding. 1:01 car to car is fast.
Note that the guy who edited the footage holds the local Steort's Ridge car-to-car time. Wish they'd repost that video. Nutty to ponder at 9 minutes 48 seconds.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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I was wondering how old he is, so I looked it up. The computer says to me that he is only 43. That explains it.
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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I counted 19 cuts going uphill The lighting changes quite a bit at the end, kind of looks like it took all day [at least] to film.
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MAD BOLTER
Trad climber
CARLSBAD,NM
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May 19, 2015 - 09:18pm PT
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FYI: i did a round trip to half dome via trail about 25 yrs ago-time was 4Hrs. at the 16 mile dist.
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big wall paul
Trad climber
tahoe, CA
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May 19, 2015 - 10:01pm PT
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I think a big take on this is the idea of hiking/climbing off trail more; Yosemite has so much to offer than just trails and climbs.
Dean had the vision to explore these other options -- we should be doing the same.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Dec 18, 2015 - 10:34pm PT
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For sure the record will eventually be broken, but I doubt anybody will try this particular line (intending to beat the record) again.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Dec 19, 2015 - 12:19pm PT
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the first comment on that Mt Olympus run is:
"I think it should be pointed out that the video only shows highlights from his route and techniques for handling different portions of his route and not his actual best time run since there's one camera person."
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Dec 19, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
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Jared Campbell, in the Olympus video, is a fairly accomplished climber, and very accomplished ultra runner, having won both the Hardrock and the Barkley.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Dec 19, 2015 - 12:44pm PT
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I'd like to see him run Mt Olympus, in Washington, dressed like that. ;-)
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