Are old climbers more spoiled these days?

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mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 22, 2015 - 08:40am PT
Using up all of our fossil fuels to fly to far away places to put up that new 300 foot 5.8 in lower Moldavia! Spending all our inheritance on fast screws, light cams, and easy women(and men). All the while leaving no first ascents to the next generation.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Apr 22, 2015 - 09:19am PT
Life is getting faster, we are getting slower.
Enjoy it!
skitch

Gym climber
Bend Or
Apr 22, 2015 - 09:33am PT
Hell yeah we are!!! Back in the day old climbers had to wait around for someone to come around for the old climber to brag about themselves, now we have supertopo.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 22, 2015 - 09:45am PT
Say what you really mean, fossils using fuel to do something with absolutely no redeeming social value. Guilty as charged and loving every minute of it!
Gorgeous George

Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
Apr 22, 2015 - 09:52am PT
I'm sorry, what was your question? I accidentally spilled a little Pinot Noir and missed it.
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Apr 22, 2015 - 11:04am PT
fast screws, light cams, and easy women



light cams, fast screws and easy women?

:)

clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Apr 22, 2015 - 11:40am PT
Stalin's hot, or is that JFK with a moustache?
briham89

Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
Apr 22, 2015 - 11:40am PT
^lol, clever
Gunkie

climber
Apr 22, 2015 - 12:08pm PT
I see no problems with this scenario.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 22, 2015 - 12:19pm PT
Old fart sittin' by the side of the road,
I'm a lot like you were
(In my dreams!)
son of stan

Boulder climber
San Jose CA
Apr 22, 2015 - 02:21pm PT
Are spoiled climbers more 'bold' these days?
Crump

Social climber
Lakewood, CO
Apr 22, 2015 - 02:26pm PT
I think they are asking if we are spoiled as in been left out too many days, rotted, and smells bad.

Yeah, if that is the question, the answer is affirmative.
Roots

Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
Apr 22, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
spoiled as in been left out too many days, rotted, and smells bad

F'n hilarious!!
johnboy

Trad climber
Can't get here from there
Apr 22, 2015 - 02:34pm PT
What do you mean, no FA's for the next generation?

If you do it right, no one will know that it's been done before.
Lorenzo

Trad climber
Portland Oregon
Apr 22, 2015 - 03:06pm PT

Apr 22, 2015 - 09:45am PT
Say what you really mean, fossils using fuel to do something with absolutely no redeeming social value. Guilty as charged and loving every minute of it!

We used to be a nuisance to the economy of vacation destinations. Now we are the reason those places exist at all.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Apr 22, 2015 - 03:59pm PT
You mean other than Donini?
Texplorer

Trad climber
Sacramento
Apr 22, 2015 - 04:34pm PT
Yes, you used to have actually have the cajones of a young man to do what was called climbing and it meant climbing something a bigfoot truck couldn't drive over. Now all you need is a piece of foam and/or be able to run it out at least 3 feet on 3/8 inchers.

The old men (and women) can now climb to still be able to "climb".
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Apr 22, 2015 - 04:52pm PT
I maintain I'm only spoiled by the fact that I still am able to call out the OP on posting a very
poorly worded question. Maybe he/she was merely testing our extant syntax skills?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 22, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
The bummer for me in old age, is my adult lifetime of saved slide-shows are mostly for naught. I can't remember when I last sat down with a group of fellow climbers and bored them spitless with old climbing adventures.

Yeah, yeah, I can always post the scanned images to ST, but its not the same as having a "captive-audience" to punish with my wit & wisdom.

Worse yet, my old slide projector only runs backwards, if it runs at all.

Maybe when Heidi sends me off to the "Old Climbers Home," the foxy nurses there will arrange for shared slide shows for the senile.


norm larson

climber
wilson, wyoming
Apr 22, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
Fritz, you are right. Gone are the days of the slide show. Everyone brings ten slides and we all connect thru the experiences of our mates. The Internet is certainly not as intimate of a connection but it is what we make time for these days. With people we may not have ever have met!
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 22, 2015 - 05:12pm PT
I know a number of older climbers, myself included, who appear more soiled than spoiled?
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Apr 22, 2015 - 05:44pm PT
I admit that I am completely spoiled as I refuse to drink cheap wine or beer. ;-)
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 22, 2015 - 05:46pm PT
No PBR and Top Ramen....the diet of today's young climbers?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 22, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
Donini! Re your comment:
I know a number of older climbers, myself included, who appear more soiled than spoiled?


Yeah, but you are one of the favored few that still gets to bore captive audiences with slide shows while displaying your wit & wisdom.

I am very jealous, but you deserve the captive audiences & I don't.

Mark! I'm with you on the good wines part of your post!
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Apr 22, 2015 - 06:27pm PT
Fritz, Look forward to sharing!

Jim, Definitely no PBR! Top Ramen in a pinch if I'm hungry enough (I'd have to be really hungry..).

PS I have a stovetop espresso machine with steamer, too! ;-)
TomCochrane

Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
Apr 22, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
so how come when i was doing 'FAs' in the Idaho Sawtooths and Tetons and Wind Rivers in the 1950s/60s, i kept coming across very rusty old soft iron pitons??...huh?...
Lynne Leichtfuss

Trad climber
Will know soon
Apr 22, 2015 - 09:01pm PT
A favorite reply of the Mayor of JTree......and he should know.....beer, babes and bolts. That's how it rolls. :)
Mark Force

Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
Apr 22, 2015 - 09:09pm PT

Apr 22, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
so how come when i was doing 'FAs' in the Idaho Sawtooths and Tetons and Wind Rivers in the 1950s/60s, i kept coming across very rusty old soft iron pitons??...huh?...

That is both incredibly cool and intriguing. Pray tell more.....
mike m

Trad climber
black hills
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 23, 2015 - 05:45am PT
Fritz I would love to see your slide show.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Apr 23, 2015 - 06:50am PT
Mike m! Thank you! I feel better now! I'll try to be more restrained in the future.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 23, 2015 - 07:19am PT
I see that a slide show from Fritz would be x rated in addition to being a hilarious romp thru obscure adventures.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Apr 23, 2015 - 08:19am PT
DMT I like ur fire pit set up!
Looks good..
[Click to View YouTube Video]
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
Apr 23, 2015 - 10:45am PT
I don't know, Kevin. I enjoyed climbing 45 years ago, and I still enjoy it now. Spoiled? You bet, and loving every minute of it.

John
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Apr 23, 2015 - 12:29pm PT
Old climbers are spoiled by bouldering pads, sticky rubber, camming devices, cell phones, head lamps, harnesses, kernmantel ropes, pile clothing, breathable fabric, portaledges, lightweight carabiners, quick draws, modern ice tools, and legions of hot women with eyes all asparkle about climbing.

I'd rather have none o that and lots of unclimbed classics, and gas for 20 cents a gallon.

Well, I don't know. Without all those new-fangled gadgets, chances are I can't get up any unclimbed classics, so what would be the use of having them?

As for the legions of sparkly-eyed hot women, the idea that those eyes might somehow be asparklin' for me pretty much defines wishful thinking.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Apr 23, 2015 - 10:37pm PT
I'd guess closer to 400

At 133 years experience per poster, we would be well into our Methuselahtic primes.

Sometimes it does feel like 133, but I've only logged 58 climbing years, thank you very much...



...at which point, to return to the theme of the thread, spoilage, if not outright putrefaction, is a distinct possibility.
yanqui

climber
Balcarce, Argentina
Apr 24, 2015 - 04:04am PT
By now I've learned, that when it comes to threads about old climbers, I should just sit back and read what people who have climbed longer than I've lived have to say.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Apr 24, 2015 - 08:52am PT
And we have lots of things to say, for example

"Sorry, but I really need to slow down a bit."

"Hey, you got any ibuprofen? I finished my bottle."

"Hang on, I gotta go pee again."

"Dammit, where did I put my car keys?"

"How 'bout we do...ah...what's the name of that route? It's only 5...its, uh, just...mmm...not too bad."

Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
Apr 24, 2015 - 09:51am PT
Rgold, pretty neat!


Earliest register of mine I could find in the Tetons...neat database. Thanks, Paul!

Here's a fun one:


Assuming that was probably a solo ascent...wow...
Big Mike

Trad climber
BC
Apr 24, 2015 - 11:15pm PT
That's it fritz. Bring the Gennie and the projector to COR! You've got a slideshow to put on!!
clinker

Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Apr 25, 2015 - 03:40am PT
Nice rgold. Musta done that cuz I think I've been there.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 25, 2015 - 08:41am PT
Starting in '68, less than a half century of climbing, but I was born in the sweet spot and got to ride the wave of new devices, first better pins, then nuts, then cams, in an environment that ate them up.
Now I'm resented for bagging all the low hanging fruit.

So eat yer heart out. Spoiled doesn't begin to describe how fortunate I have been.
Good luck youngsters, yer gonna have to hike a long ways to get what I got.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Apr 25, 2015 - 08:57am PT
Brian, that's a great find.

Truly reflective of Alex's spirit.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Apr 25, 2015 - 01:16pm PT
I think that there is sweet and bitter all over the tree, but don't disagree about kicking it up a notch.

But most climbers favor the short approach trade routes.
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