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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 22, 2015 - 08:40am PT
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Using up all of our fossil fuels to fly to far away places to put up that new 300 foot 5.8 in lower Moldavia! Spending all our inheritance on fast screws, light cams, and easy women(and men). All the while leaving no first ascents to the next generation.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:19am PT
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Life is getting faster, we are getting slower.
Enjoy it!
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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Hell yeah we are!!! Back in the day old climbers had to wait around for someone to come around for the old climber to brag about themselves, now we have supertopo.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:45am PT
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Say what you really mean, fossils using fuel to do something with absolutely no redeeming social value. Guilty as charged and loving every minute of it!
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Gorgeous George
Trad climber
Los Angeles, California
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:52am PT
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I'm sorry, what was your question? I accidentally spilled a little Pinot Noir and missed it.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Apr 22, 2015 - 11:04am PT
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fast screws, light cams, and easy women
light cams, fast screws and easy women?
:)
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 22, 2015 - 11:40am PT
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Stalin's hot, or is that JFK with a moustache?
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briham89
Big Wall climber
santa cruz, ca
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Apr 22, 2015 - 11:40am PT
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^lol, clever
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Gunkie
climber
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Apr 22, 2015 - 12:08pm PT
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I see no problems with this scenario.
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Apr 22, 2015 - 12:19pm PT
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Old fart sittin' by the side of the road,
I'm a lot like you were
(In my dreams!)
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son of stan
Boulder climber
San Jose CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:21pm PT
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Are spoiled climbers more 'bold' these days?
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Crump
Social climber
Lakewood, CO
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:26pm PT
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I think they are asking if we are spoiled as in been left out too many days, rotted, and smells bad.
Yeah, if that is the question, the answer is affirmative.
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:31pm PT
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spoiled as in been left out too many days, rotted, and smells bad
F'n hilarious!!
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:34pm PT
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What do you mean, no FA's for the next generation?
If you do it right, no one will know that it's been done before.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Apr 22, 2015 - 03:06pm PT
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:45am PT
Say what you really mean, fossils using fuel to do something with absolutely no redeeming social value. Guilty as charged and loving every minute of it!
We used to be a nuisance to the economy of vacation destinations. Now we are the reason those places exist at all.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Apr 22, 2015 - 03:59pm PT
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You mean other than Donini?
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Texplorer
Trad climber
Sacramento
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Apr 22, 2015 - 04:34pm PT
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Yes, you used to have actually have the cajones of a young man to do what was called climbing and it meant climbing something a bigfoot truck couldn't drive over. Now all you need is a piece of foam and/or be able to run it out at least 3 feet on 3/8 inchers.
The old men (and women) can now climb to still be able to "climb".
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 04:52pm PT
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I maintain I'm only spoiled by the fact that I still am able to call out the OP on posting a very
poorly worded question. Maybe he/she was merely testing our extant syntax skills?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 22, 2015 - 04:57pm PT
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The bummer for me in old age, is my adult lifetime of saved slide-shows are mostly for naught. I can't remember when I last sat down with a group of fellow climbers and bored them spitless with old climbing adventures.
Yeah, yeah, I can always post the scanned images to ST, but its not the same as having a "captive-audience" to punish with my wit & wisdom.
Worse yet, my old slide projector only runs backwards, if it runs at all.
Maybe when Heidi sends me off to the "Old Climbers Home," the foxy nurses there will arrange for shared slide shows for the senile.
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norm larson
climber
wilson, wyoming
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Apr 22, 2015 - 05:05pm PT
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Fritz, you are right. Gone are the days of the slide show. Everyone brings ten slides and we all connect thru the experiences of our mates. The Internet is certainly not as intimate of a connection but it is what we make time for these days. With people we may not have ever have met!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 22, 2015 - 05:12pm PT
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I know a number of older climbers, myself included, who appear more soiled than spoiled?
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Apr 22, 2015 - 05:44pm PT
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I admit that I am completely spoiled as I refuse to drink cheap wine or beer. ;-)
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 22, 2015 - 05:46pm PT
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No PBR and Top Ramen....the diet of today's young climbers?
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 22, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
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Donini! Re your comment: I know a number of older climbers, myself included, who appear more soiled than spoiled?
Yeah, but you are one of the favored few that still gets to bore captive audiences with slide shows while displaying your wit & wisdom.
I am very jealous, but you deserve the captive audiences & I don't.
Mark! I'm with you on the good wines part of your post!
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Apr 22, 2015 - 06:27pm PT
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Fritz, Look forward to sharing!
Jim, Definitely no PBR! Top Ramen in a pinch if I'm hungry enough (I'd have to be really hungry..).
PS I have a stovetop espresso machine with steamer, too! ;-)
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TomCochrane
Trad climber
Santa Cruz Mountains and Monterey Bay
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Apr 22, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
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so how come when i was doing 'FAs' in the Idaho Sawtooths and Tetons and Wind Rivers in the 1950s/60s, i kept coming across very rusty old soft iron pitons??...huh?...
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Trad climber
Will know soon
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:01pm PT
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A favorite reply of the Mayor of JTree......and he should know.....beer, babes and bolts. That's how it rolls. :)
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:09pm PT
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Apr 22, 2015 - 08:41pm PT
so how come when i was doing 'FAs' in the Idaho Sawtooths and Tetons and Wind Rivers in the 1950s/60s, i kept coming across very rusty old soft iron pitons??...huh?...
That is both incredibly cool and intriguing. Pray tell more.....
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mike m
Trad climber
black hills
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 23, 2015 - 05:45am PT
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Fritz I would love to see your slide show.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Apr 23, 2015 - 06:50am PT
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Mike m! Thank you! I feel better now! I'll try to be more restrained in the future.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Apr 23, 2015 - 07:19am PT
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I see that a slide show from Fritz would be x rated in addition to being a hilarious romp thru obscure adventures.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Apr 23, 2015 - 10:45am PT
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I don't know, Kevin. I enjoyed climbing 45 years ago, and I still enjoy it now. Spoiled? You bet, and loving every minute of it.
John
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:29pm PT
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Old climbers are spoiled by bouldering pads, sticky rubber, camming devices, cell phones, head lamps, harnesses, kernmantel ropes, pile clothing, breathable fabric, portaledges, lightweight carabiners, quick draws, modern ice tools, and legions of hot women with eyes all asparkle about climbing.
I'd rather have none o that and lots of unclimbed classics, and gas for 20 cents a gallon.
Well, I don't know. Without all those new-fangled gadgets, chances are I can't get up any unclimbed classics, so what would be the use of having them?
As for the legions of sparkly-eyed hot women, the idea that those eyes might somehow be asparklin' for me pretty much defines wishful thinking.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Apr 23, 2015 - 10:37pm PT
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I'd guess closer to 400
At 133 years experience per poster, we would be well into our Methuselahtic primes.
Sometimes it does feel like 133, but I've only logged 58 climbing years, thank you very much...
...at which point, to return to the theme of the thread, spoilage, if not outright putrefaction, is a distinct possibility.
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yanqui
climber
Balcarce, Argentina
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Apr 24, 2015 - 04:04am PT
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By now I've learned, that when it comes to threads about old climbers, I should just sit back and read what people who have climbed longer than I've lived have to say.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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Apr 24, 2015 - 08:52am PT
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And we have lots of things to say, for example
"Sorry, but I really need to slow down a bit."
"Hey, you got any ibuprofen? I finished my bottle."
"Hang on, I gotta go pee again."
"Dammit, where did I put my car keys?"
"How 'bout we do...ah...what's the name of that route? It's only 5...its, uh, just...mmm...not too bad."
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 24, 2015 - 09:51am PT
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Rgold, pretty neat!
Earliest register of mine I could find in the Tetons...neat database. Thanks, Paul!
Here's a fun one:
Assuming that was probably a solo ascent...wow...
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Apr 24, 2015 - 11:15pm PT
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That's it fritz. Bring the Gennie and the projector to COR! You've got a slideshow to put on!!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 25, 2015 - 03:40am PT
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Nice rgold. Musta done that cuz I think I've been there.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 25, 2015 - 08:41am PT
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Starting in '68, less than a half century of climbing, but I was born in the sweet spot and got to ride the wave of new devices, first better pins, then nuts, then cams, in an environment that ate them up.
Now I'm resented for bagging all the low hanging fruit.
So eat yer heart out. Spoiled doesn't begin to describe how fortunate I have been.
Good luck youngsters, yer gonna have to hike a long ways to get what I got.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Apr 25, 2015 - 08:57am PT
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Brian, that's a great find.
Truly reflective of Alex's spirit.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 25, 2015 - 01:16pm PT
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I think that there is sweet and bitter all over the tree, but don't disagree about kicking it up a notch.
But most climbers favor the short approach trade routes.
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