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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:06am PT
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i'm getting that.
good marketing.
nothing worse than
the candle flicker
low-wattage when
you need high beams.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Ouray, CO.
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:07am PT
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Well excuse me for having an opinion.
I'll keep it to myself in the future.
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Norwegian
Trad climber
dancin on the tip of god's middle finger
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:18am PT
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i stand corrected.
i'm not buying that.
swayed by a good point,
i'll just continue
to use my black diamond
rechargeables that plug
into my laptop.
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mcreel
climber
Barcelona
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Apr 22, 2015 - 04:03am PT
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It seems to me that a rapid sequence of attempts and falls on pitch 15 would be a lot more amusing. Like the energizer bunny doing 5.14d.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Apr 22, 2015 - 04:44am PT
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diogenes searches for an unsponsored hero... be stickin' no logo on my lantern
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Apr 22, 2015 - 07:24am PT
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Can't say I have experience in these matters, but I'm thinking the photographer got paid more for this than Kevin.
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Port
Trad climber
Norwalk, CT
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Apr 22, 2015 - 07:32am PT
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How is it any different than a Black Diamond Sponsorship, Adidas, North Face, Petzl, or La Sportiva? You think all those brands are somehow not impacting the environment negatively? Why haven't you called them out like Duracell? Petzl products use batteries so aren't they just as evil as Duracell? Why not call out Petzl? Have you ever used a battery operated head lamp? Doesn't that make you as evil as Duracell?
"If you have no problem with image prostitution, let's just say you and I have walked different paths."
A little histrionic. We're all sellouts and hypocrites, on some level. And if you think you're somehow completely pure, you're probably delusional.
And Solar technology is great and important progress but also is extremely harmful to the environment.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2014/11/141111-solar-panel-manufacturing-sustainability-ranking/
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Apr 22, 2015 - 07:47am PT
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I couldn't disagree more if I tried.
Alex is sponsored by Goal Zero, a company dedicated to conservation.
Duracell continues to pollute the environment to extract profit from outdated technology.
A new form of disposable battery still is a one use product.
When you take a corporation's money and become their shill, you tell the world you think what they do is OK with you.
Powered his ascents? Why don't you just credit Adenosine Tri-Phosphate, the substance that REALLY powers his ascents.
When we let corporations use us and our sport, we sell the purity of our intentions and desires.
So and so uses X brand ropes... That at least has some basis in reality.
So and so uses X brand batteries in his headlamp... Who effing cares.
I've got double digit el cap ascents with the cheapest batteries you can buy.
But I worked for the money to buy them, and I don't owe Hitachi anything.
When they wore out, I put in another set. It's not rocket surgery.
So, ok, don't launch out on a pitch with nearly dead batteries, got ya Chief.
Any more vital beta for the common folk?
I like how it says climbing is a professional stunt, and that average people should not attempt... If that is true, I should just kill myself now.
My feelings on corporate sponsorship are well documented, and based on dozens of dead friends and personal experience.
If you have no problem with image prostitution, let's just say you and I have walked different paths.
We are headed straight to the future presented in "idiocracy".
Rant of the year!
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Apr 22, 2015 - 08:02am PT
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if he bought a hummer, and left it in the driveway ... he could burn a lifetime of duracells, and still lord it over those prius commuters from high moral ground
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looks easy from here
climber
Ben Lomond, CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 08:21am PT
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I couldn't disagree more if I tried...[batteries are bad except when I use them]
And I'm probably going to regret this, but how is corporate sponsorship responsible for "dozens of dead friends"?
I say go get paid, KJ!
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:12am PT
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If you have no problem with image prostitution, let's just say you and I have walked different paths.
We must walk different paths. I've always thought it was funny when people got mad at athletes or artists for "selling out." I'd sell out in a second if I had any skills!
He's finding a way to get paid to CLIMB!!!! Who wouldn't do that?!? If you think the environment will be any different because KJ did a duracell commercial you're nuts!
Congrats Kevin, live the dream!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Apr 22, 2015 - 09:44am PT
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It's a strange phenomenon that when one or another of the flock gains center stage, others are quick to throw tomatoes, under the guise of purity or "green" causes or (fill inthe blanks). One wonders if in their heart of hearts it isn't plain jealousy or runaway smugless that's really doing the talking. That much said, I've always insisted that the climbing community is big enough to accomodate all perspectives and catagories, from the heroic performers like Kevin, to the bitterest detractors posing as advocates.
JL
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 22, 2015 - 10:17am PT
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'bout time. Always gonna be losers that hate.
If only the consumer knew what free climbing means.lol
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 22, 2015 - 10:38am PT
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Kevin lost the coin toss, Tommy must have got the viagra contract. Pay those bills guys!
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Apr 22, 2015 - 12:23pm PT
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If Kevin was trashing the landscape or talking sh#t or being disrespectful or rude or dumb, sure, take a run at the guy. But I thought his performance on the Dawn Wall, given that this is 2015 and not 1980, was heroic, and that ever since he has handled himself with class and dignity. There seems little honor or point in ripping the guy. But that's only my opinion.
JL
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labrat
Trad climber
Erik O. Auburn, CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 01:33pm PT
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"Professional stunt. Do not attempt."
;-)
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Wildincognito
climber
Eastside
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Apr 22, 2015 - 01:40pm PT
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"I could see my way clear towards a career in which making money from commercial assignments was a less important goal than living a life in which the wholeness of knowing and communicating about the earth's wild places reigned supreme." -Galen Rowell from The Inner Game of Outdoor Photography
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 22, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
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Ring in some dubloons Kevin!
The Black Keys were asked why they sold out to commercials.
Their answer was basically "The reason I swear so much is because fuk you."
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 22, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
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Seems like a nice kid. Good on 'im. Hope the money funds some great adventures.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 22, 2015 - 03:02pm PT
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It was a beautiful piece of flabbergastrionics.
Yes I created a new word due to that post.
Your search - flabbergastrionics - did not match any documents.
Suggestions:
Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
Try different keywords.
Try more general keywords.
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zBrown
Ice climber
Brujò de la Playa
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Apr 22, 2015 - 04:26pm PT
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Whaal, just about every company and/or person(s) in the company harm the environment in some manner.
Where is the scoresheet being kept?
The (Un)happy Planet World Map is color coded by evaluating each country’s human well-being and environmental impact. Not many happy colors on that map.
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Rudder
Trad climber
Costa Mesa, CA
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Apr 22, 2015 - 10:42pm PT
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It's a strange phenomenon that when one or another of the flock gains center stage, others are quick to throw tomatoes, under the guise of purity or "green" causes or (fill inthe blanks). One wonders if in their heart of hearts it isn't plain jealousy or runaway smugless that's really doing the talking. That much said, I've always insisted that the climbing community is big enough to accomodate all perspectives and catagories, from the heroic performers like Kevin, to the bitterest detractors posing as advocates.
JL
Yup, John, I've said the same thing about climbing ethics. You have the various camps, I explain all of them to a friend, they ask what can be done? I said I think it already is being done. Climbers posture and argue under the guise of whatever... and in the end things stay somewhat pure and somewhat progressive. I say we kind of need both camps.
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Apr 22, 2015 - 11:06pm PT
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I say why don't we all dog pile on ECF. He probably doesn't climb 5.14 so he's fair game. :)
And as to the 'are kids spoiled' thread I say if you own a car, a rope, a couple of pairs of shoes and can afford a tank of gas....then you ( we) are incredibly spoiled and responsible -collectively and individually - for the coming end of human civilization. Rant over..peace out. :)
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Roger Breedlove
climber
Cleveland Heights, Ohio
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Apr 23, 2015 - 03:39am PT
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The "Professional stunt. Do not attempt." made me smile (like labrat).
I intend to follow that advice.
I think it is great that climbers get both the recognition and money from doing ads.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, Colorado
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Apr 23, 2015 - 05:06am PT
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*heavy sigh*
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 06:27am PT
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Differing viewpoints are part of an intelligent discussion based on facts. All you seem to be doing is talking sh#t and hiding behind an avatar, can't even use your name. . .a real class act. . .df
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 23, 2015 - 06:35am PT
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First off, go f yourself, you don't know me.
I did turn down several corporate sponsorships.
Were you born with a big roll of bills shoved up your a*#? An examination of who or what is pure always seems to be so revealing. Was your prospective corporate sponsor Hospicare or Prevail?
Did you turn your sponsors down as an adult or child?
The guys worked hard for this.
Survival 101, first food and shelter, then entertainment. :)
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 23, 2015 - 09:33am PT
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LOL
Do we need a separate thread to guess at all the corporate sponsors ECF turned down?
Polident?
Depends?
Those stair lift seats?
Geritol?
Chia pets?
Sea monkeys?
Go Kevin! Get some!
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA/Boulder, CO
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 23, 2015 - 10:22am PT
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Climbers have been cashing in on money from big corporations for a long time. Ron Kauk did a TV commercial for a big Detroit car company; John Bachar did a TV commercial for disposable razors; Alex Honnold did a TV commercial for CitiBank to name a few. Why pick on KJ if selling out to corporate America is such a travesty?
Personally, I have no problem with these guys making a few $$$.
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overwatch
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 10:27am PT
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ECF lost any credibility when resorting to go f*#k yourself
Edit:
I meant ECF not the Op.
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overwatch
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 10:34am PT
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possibility of credibility?
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jstan
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 11:26am PT
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I have no problem with these guys making a few $$$
!. I was offered a job associated with climbing. I turned it down because I already had a good job AND I didn't think I was the best person for the job offered.
2. I participated in a magazine article. Neither I nor the magazine brought up the subject of money. Personally I thought there should not have been an article at all. I took part so I could emphasize in the article the things I thought important.
3. I was given $12 for going on a Yosemite rescue before YOSAR was formed. I donated it away.
Why?
Climbing is a serious undertaking. I wanted to keep crystal clear in my own mind, why I was climbing.
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OTC
Social climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:14pm PT
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"philosophy is talk on a cereal box"
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couchmaster
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:24pm PT
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Largo nails the truth again, as usual. To ECF upthread or anyone ragging on KJ or climbers doing commercials, tell us what you do for a living and we'll all rag on you for selling out. Haha! Think about that for a bit. You can see how much of a hypocrite you are in our eyes for ragging on KJ. I have too much of my own hypocrisy to bitch about just about all of the bullshit out there. Yeah, I'm a bigger hypocrite than most of you all I'd suspect. I'm happy to be working though. Like Moose, I'd do that commercial and for 1/2 the price they paid KJ (psst, I'd go much less than that but don't want to give it all away right off the bat. LOL)
KJ (or Tommy or whomever) should be ending his commercials by saying "I'm Kevin Jorgenson, I climb for a living. And do an occasional commercial too."
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:26pm PT
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couchmaster
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:30pm PT
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^^^ LOL! ^^^ Hilarious graphic Survival!
I think the whole "selling out" thing is pretty much total bullsh#t. We all do it -it's called "work", unless we happen to be trustfunders. Good on KJ for getting "work". It beats starving everytime.
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OTC
Social climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 12:42pm PT
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concur
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Roots
Mountain climber
Tustin, CA
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Apr 23, 2015 - 01:15pm PT
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Duracell doesn't give a crap about him, climbing, or even sports in general. They care about selling more units than energizer.Period.
No sh!t...of course that is the reason.
I'm actually stoked on whomever at Duracell thought to use him in their commercial. He climbed at night with a headlamp that made news around the world. Genius marketing. Period.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Apr 23, 2015 - 01:24pm PT
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An even more cynical take than the OP's is that KJ wasn't merely "selling out" by taking advantage of his 15 minutes of fame by doing the Duracell commercial, but rather that the entire DW media circus was designed by TJ and KJ to lead to exactly this type of opportunity.
In other words, it wasn't "hey, I'm famous, may as well do a celebrity endorsement," but rather "how can I get mainstream media press so that I can get endorsement opportunities."
Not saying I necessarily believe that, but I was one of the many climbers who struggled a bit to understand why DW became a media obsession, especially when very few members of the media or the viewers of the story could give an accurate account of what made the ascent "special."
(For the ever important ST record, I do not begrudge "famous" climbers figuring out how to monetize that fame, within reason. Honnold seems to be far and away the most successful--more power to him.)
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Apr 23, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
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I'm calling bullshit on ECF
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Apr 23, 2015 - 02:28pm PT
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Couple things worth looking at closely - the idea of "selling out," and what does this actually mean in both climbing and in the world at large. And the quaint notion that amateurs are in some way the finer, more pure and true article and occupy some higher ground. Lastly, of course the top performers get most all the attention, for the same reason my neighbors garage band doesn't get the same play as Foo Fighters. My neighbors just aren't any good. This doesn't make them less as humans, only as musicians.
Perhaps the remedy is to bomb the media with a couple climbers who aren't especially good or doing interesting routes and who don't much care and consider themselves too good for you or your silly opinion and your rotten money - and we don't pay them anything for being on the news for 20 days. Now that's a team worthy of our respect and attention.
JL
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Apr 23, 2015 - 03:20pm PT
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Kevin Jorgeson is the Man! Hell yeah. But like most men, he has to eat and drive a car and wear clothing. So therefore to climb at the professional level, he needs to take on sponsorships and the like to pay the bills. If he can score a bigtime commercial or ad, all the better!
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 23, 2015 - 03:37pm PT
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If you don't think marketing and advertising are legitimate payworthy endeavours...
Well you've never succeeded at owning or running a business.. you just had jobs.
That is selling out compared to making your own job.
I admire KJ for being able to pursue his passion, perform at the highest level and find a way to make a living of some sort from it. Selling batteries is not very evil compared to driving a car. Therefore it's pretty far down the list of 1st world problems even worth commenting on.
Flabbergastrionics
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rockermike
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Apr 23, 2015 - 03:58pm PT
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The new pro-climber look. Just got to add some go-pros for the full effect. :)
Kind of reminds me of when Joe Montana showed up on TV adds pitching K Mart. He had full rights to sell his fame for some bucks but I have to admit my respect for the guy dropped just a little bit when I saw it. lol
oh and for you youngens Joe used to be a famous football player.
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 23, 2015 - 04:02pm PT
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Ha.. don't they wish.. they would be making the real bucks then.
All the damn effort I put into climbing I might have been able to make a decent living in a real sport.
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 23, 2015 - 04:06pm PT
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The American way is to make money.
The dollar in America is god.
There's no escape in America,
unless you're intelligent ......
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limpingcrab
Trad climber
the middle of CA
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Apr 23, 2015 - 05:41pm PT
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Not saying I necessarily believe that, but I was one of the many climbers who struggled a bit to understand why DW became a media obsession, especially when very few members of the media or the viewers of the story could give an accurate account of what made the ascent "special."
Adidas. It worked. Good job Adidas
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MisterE
Gym climber
Being In Sierra Happy Of Place
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Apr 23, 2015 - 08:04pm PT
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but I was one of the many climbers who struggled a bit to understand why DW became a media obsession, especially when very few members of the media or the viewers of the story could give an accurate account of what made the ascent "special."
The same thing as the ending of the FA of the Nose: Lone man/men encapsulated on a wall with (according to media perception) "No Way Off The Wall" - a purely self-induced parameter.
Bam! Media frenzy formula! It's worked twice!
One more and it's like a song about Superman...
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 23, 2015 - 08:44pm PT
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Three times.. actually.. twice for Harding.
El Cap is a perfect stage.
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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Apr 23, 2015 - 11:06pm PT
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I would totally have gone Energizer. Plus, I really admire the OP in that, when I have a huge stick up mine, I can't even type.
Edit: yes, sorry! Misidentified the target as the OP. Sorry, Bruce, and good diagnosis, DMT!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 24, 2015 - 06:26am PT
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Plus, I really admire the OP in that, when I have a huge stick up mine, I can't even type.
What I really admire about the OP is that he works as though he is an indentured servant, doing a hell of a lot of manual labor for climber's benefit in general. Give this OP sh#t in our neck of the woods and we will likely rip your stick clip out of your hands and beat you with it and then use it to perform an outdoor colonoscopy, speaking figuratively, of course.
Yes, you may have trouble typing.
:)
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overwatch
climber
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Apr 24, 2015 - 07:20am PT
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Reading comp fail. Revealed himself as another internet tough guy.
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overwatch
climber
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Apr 24, 2015 - 07:55am PT
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I don't know I am sure they are both vicious little scrappers
Edit:
I was actually referring to clinker with his stick clip colonoscopy bs.
Edit ll:
to avoid bumping this dumb thread:
See what I mean? Internet tough guy = clinker
Edit lll:
No matter who he is ECF started the attacking by writing "go f*#k yourself"
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wbw
Trad climber
'cross the great divide
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Apr 24, 2015 - 08:10am PT
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I've got double digit el cap ascents with the cheapest batteries you can buy.
But I worked for the money to buy them, and I don't owe Hitachi anything.
When they wore out, I put in another set. It's not rocket surgery.
So, ok, don't launch out on a pitch with nearly dead batteries, got ya Chief.
Any more vital beta for the common folk?
I like how it says climbing is a professional stunt, and that average people should not attempt... If that is true, I should just kill myself now.
My feelings on corporate sponsorship are well documented, and based on dozens of dead friends and personal experience.
If you have no problem with image prostitution, let's just say you and I have walked different paths.
Wowzer! Somebody gulped a big swallow of holier-than-thou.
We all gotta make a living dude. I'm sure you prostitute yourself in your own way to do so. My experience with rants like this by people claiming to be so "pure", is that they most often come from grouchy old guys that don't get laid.
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Barbarian
climber
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Apr 24, 2015 - 09:34am PT
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Blah, blah, blah
Let he who has no carbon footprint cast the first stone...
Such whining over a TV commercial!
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dave729
Trad climber
Western America
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Apr 24, 2015 - 10:27am PT
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Switch: "Stop the car. Listen to me, Copper-top. We don't have time for
twenty questions. Right now there's only one rule, our way or the highway."
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johntp
Trad climber
socal
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Apr 24, 2015 - 11:44am PT
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Just got back from lunch. Had an 8 oz. burger and fries. What are we talking about?
edit: Seriously, if the guy can make some coin what's the deal? He put in the effort to do the route. Climbers need to eat too.
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Barbarian
climber
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Apr 24, 2015 - 12:29pm PT
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grouchy old guys that don't get laid
Hey, that hurt!
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 24, 2015 - 12:48pm PT
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Overwatch, this;) means b.s.. Glad you got it. Wink. Ever play hoop? Bet you played like your grandma, bitch. Wink
In the real world (non internet) a non-climber was referencing getting intereted in climbing and its history due to "those two guys climbing El Capitan" She even has a real job. Who knew?
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, Colorado
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Apr 24, 2015 - 12:53pm PT
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Forget it, I'm out of the dead horse beating business.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Apr 24, 2015 - 01:09pm PT
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But really I think Duracell needs a better ad agency. What I would have done is make a backpack that looks like half a battery and pay Honnold a fortune to wear it on some super scenic solos. Then the commercial closes with him by a campfire cooking a rabbit on a spit.
That sounds like a much better commercial than the Jorgeson one. All controversy aside the ad is pretty cheesy. I am surprised it doesn't have that over used shitty song by Arcade Fire or Mumford and Sons playing in the background. Barf.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Apr 24, 2015 - 06:04pm PT
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I did turn down several corporate sponsorships.
Bullsh#t. Well, actually, it's worse that that. You're a liar. Not just one "corporate sponsorship," but several? You are a fool if you think anyone in the industry would not laugh out loud.
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ECF
Big Wall climber
Colona, Colorado
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Apr 25, 2015 - 02:18am PT
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Well, that's the last time you'll ever see me offer an opinion here.
None of it was a lie, but I'm not taking on a part time job defending myself, so I'll just delete it all.
Forget I ever existed.
I didn't want notoriety then, and I still don't, so let it go.
Hoorah for Kevin, he got paid.
And money is god.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:30am PT
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Well, I'll bite. Most of us on the taco don't hide behind our avatars, at least those whose posts have traction.
This is a meritocrasy.
What have you done?
Who are you?
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Bullwinkle
Boulder climber
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Apr 25, 2015 - 07:43am PT
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He's not lying about turning down the Sponsorships and he's no Coward, I stand corrected. . .df
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Apr 25, 2015 - 08:05am PT
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This thread was about a tv commercial.
I commented on it, and corporate sponsorship in general.
If you don't like my opinion, offer a different one.
Attacking me is poor debate style.
Agreed.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 25, 2015 - 08:40am PT
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Attacking me is poor debate style.
Big target dude, The way you hung it out there with your generic "turned down sponsorships" but no details, who could resist.
Now you are "The Guy who turned down Sponsorships". Like my climbing partner Geoff, when bagging groceries in 1981 an attractive woman told him that he had a good face and should look into acting. He has never let us forget it.
Toker is right, you deserve a Sponsors ECF Turned Down Thread. Hah.
Good comeback ECF.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Apr 25, 2015 - 10:35am PT
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You know how there are threads you don't click on even though they seem to be climbing related because you think "Well, I'm just not interested in that."
But then they sit on the front page for days and you think "How can there possibly be that much to say about a climber doing a commercial?"
And then it occurs to you: there's some kind of rant and counter-rant going on which could be rather entertaining. So you finally click, some 80+ posts in...
Yep, this is one of those kinds of threads.
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skitch
Gym climber
Bend Or
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Apr 28, 2015 - 10:24am PT
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I just bought a 36 pack of Duracell AAA's!!! That should last me the summer!!!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Apr 28, 2015 - 10:32am PT
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I'm beginning to wonder if I saw the whole commercial. It seemed about 30 seconds long; to some viewers it may escape them what really was happening it was so dark with a light beam and heaving breathing. They mentioned his name which I doubt many viewers even knew who he was anymore.
Unless I saw the abridged version of a longer commercial, really???? ..... this much controversy?
Susan
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Apr 28, 2015 - 11:20am PT
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Jstan, definitely can be topped and bottomed.
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tornado
climber
lawrence kansas
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Apr 28, 2015 - 02:41pm PT
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It seemed about 30 seconds long; to some viewers it may escape them what really was happening it was so dark with a light beam and heaving breathing. You make it sound so risqué.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Apr 28, 2015 - 03:40pm PT
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^^^^^ 30 seconds of heavy/heaving breathing wouldn't make it risque. More like sad, I think. ;)
Did you actually read the thread? yes I did....maybe not the best turn of a phrase but there was a strong presence of a subtext in several posts of "I'd never sell myself out"
Susan
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WBraun
climber
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Apr 28, 2015 - 03:43pm PT
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What a stoopid thread.
Almost 100 posts saying nothing.
There no information in this thread which battery is better.
Duracell or the energizer bunny cell,
or the Samsung battery.
Stupidtopo ..... :-)
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crankster
Trad climber
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Apr 28, 2015 - 07:02pm PT
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There is 100x more coherence on this thread compared to the Science v Religion thread.
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brotherbbock
Trad climber
Alta Loma, CA
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Wow....ECF went down in a blaze of glory....
What a sensitive lil guy he is...
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thetennisguy
Mountain climber
Yuba City, CA
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Look it's marketing logic ... if Kevin used Duracell batteries on one of the hardest human endeavors of all time, then it makes perfect sense for me to use the same batteries when I need them in an emergency or even for the more mundane use in my mini mag light in may daypack.
Besides I want to support a company that supports climbers. See even this thread sort of proves in some weird way that their marketing plan is working.
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